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>> Ian: ON THIS SUNDAY NIGHT AN
ALL-TOO-FAMILIAR DEBATE IN THE
AFTERMATH OF YET ANOTHER SCHOOL
SHOOTING THIS TIME 10 PEOPLE ARE
LOSING THEIR LIVES IN TEXAS, A
STATE WHERE GUNS ARE A WAY OF
LIFE.
BUT AFTER PARKLAND AND SANDY
HOOK AND COLUMBINE, WILL
ANYTHING REALLY BE DONE TO
CONTROL THEM?
>>> ALSO TONIGHT THE JETS ARE
OUT PUTTING CANADA'S HOPES FOR A
STANLEY CUP ON ICE FOR ANOTHER
YEAR.
>>> AND THE DAY AFTER THE BIG
DAY.
IN MANY WAYS THEIR ROYAL WEDDING
BUCKED TRADITION.
SO WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE NEW DUKE
AND DUCHESS?
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL".
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>>> WELL, AMONG THE SAD RITUALS
FOLLOWING A SCHOOL SHOOTING IN
THE UNITED STATES, LEARNING MORE
ABOUT THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WERE
KILLED.
A POPULAR FOOTBALL PLAYER... AN
EXCHANGE STUDENT FROM PAKISTAN,
AND AN AVID GAMER EXCITED TO
CELEBRATE HIS BIRTHDAY THIS
WEEKEND.
THEY WERE ALL JUST 17 AND ALL
AMONG THE 10 PEOPLE KILLED BY A
CLASSMATE.
BUT NOW FOR MANY THE QUESTION
IS -- WHAT, IF ANYTHING,
CHANGES?
JUST OVER THREE MONTHS AFTER THE
MASS MURDER IN PARKLAND,
FLORIDA, WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO
STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING OVER
AND OVER?
AS PAUL HUNTER TELLS US, THAT IS
A BEING DEBATED ACROSS THE
UNITED STATES TONIGHT.
>> Reporter: AT THE RIVER OAKS
ISLAMIC CENTRE IN HOUSTON, A
PRAYER SERVICE FOR SABIKHA
SHEIK, KILLED ALONG WITH NINE
OTHERS IN FRIDAY'S SHOOTING.
>> WE BOTH BECAME VERY CLOSE.
>> Reporter: AND THOUGH THE
SERVICE BROUGHT TEARS, IT ALSO
EMPHASIZED WHAT WAS ON THE MINDS
OF MANY.
>> WE HAVE TO GET PAST OUR
FIXATION WITH GUNS AND OUR
OBSESSION WITH GUNS.
>> Reporter: FRIDAY'S RAM PAIN
AT THE SANTA FE HIGH SCHOOL HAS
REIGNITED A FAMILIAR
BACK-AND-FORTH IN THIS
COUNTRY -- THE PUSH FOR ACTION
ON GUNS AND PUSHBACK FROM MANY
OF THOSE WHO CAN ACTUALLY
INFLUENCE CHANGE.
ONE RESPONSE TO SCHOOL SHOOTINGS
FROM THE LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR OF
TEXAS?
>> WE NEED OUR TEACHERS TO BE
ARMED.
WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE --
WHEN YOU'RE FACING SOMEONE WHO
IS AN ACTIVE SHOOTER, BEST WAY
TO TAKE THAT SHOOTER DOWN IS
WITH A GUN.
BUT EVEN BETTER THAN THAT IS
FOUR OR FIVE GUNS TO ONE.
>> Reporter: HE BLAMED SCHOOL
SHOOTINGS ON VIOLENT VIDEO
GAMES, MORAL DECAY, EVIL IN THE
WORLD, AND SCHOOLS WITH TOO MANY
DOORS.
ADDED THE N.R.A. TODAY -- THE
PROBLEM WITH SCHOOL SHOOTERS
ISN'T ACCESS TO GUNS IT'S
SOCIETY AND DRUGS.
>> THIS COMES THROUGH A CULTURE
WHERE VIOLENCE IS COMMONPLACE.
ALL WE NEED TO DO IS TURN ON THE
TV, GO TO A MOVIE.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED
TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE, MANY OF
THESE YOUNG BOYS HAVE BEEN ON
RITALIN SINCE KINDERGARTEN.
>> OFFER THE GUN MANUFACTURER'S
LOBBY IS GETTING SO STRONG THAT
WE CANNOT STOP THIS IN THE
CLASSROOM.
>> Reporter: BACK AT THAT PRAYER
SERVICE, FRUSTRATION THAT
LAWMAKERS HAVE FAILED TO ACT AND
A CHALLENGE TO THOSE NOW
GRIEVING.
>> YOU MUST SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS
YOURSELF.
TAKE THE LEAD FROM THOSE
STUDENTS IN FLORIDA.
THEY STOOD UP AND THEY SAID, NO
MORE.
>> Reporter: AND IT'S WORTH
NOTING HOUSTON'S CHIEF OF POLICE
IS ONSIDE WITH TOUGHENING GUN
LAWS.
THIS WEEKEND HE CITED IN-ACTION
BY POLITICIANS ON THAT, AND
ADDING, IF THAT DOESN'T CHANGE
THERE WILL BE A NEXT TIME.
IAN?
>> Ian: WE KNOW, PAUL, THIS IS
COMPLICATED POLITICALLY BUT IN
THIS CASE IT'S COMPLICATED
FACTUALLY AS WELL BECAUSE SO
OFTEN IT'S FOCUSED ON
ASSAULT-STYLE WEAPONS BUT THAT'S
NOT WHAT WAS USED THIS TIME.
>> Reporter: YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
IN FACT, THE PRO-GUN SIDE WILL
OFTEN POINT OUT THAT
ASSAULT-STYLE GUNS LIKE THE
AR-15 ACCOUNT FOR RELATIVELY FEW
GUN DEATHS EACH YEAR IN THIS
COUNTRY OVERALL.
CERTAINLY COMPARED WITH
HANDGUNS.
SO THEY SAY, WHY ON BOTHER
RESTRICTING AR-15s BUT AT THE
SAME TIME NO ONE TALKS ABOUT
RESTRICTING HANDGUNS.
MOSTLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS
THAT THERE WOULD BE WAY MORE
PUSHBACK ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT
SO BABY STEPS.
THAT'S WHY A LOT OF THE GUN
CONTROL TALK THIS WEEKEND WAS
OTHER STUFF AROUND THE EDGES.
FOR EXAMPLE, TOUGHENING THE LAWS
ON GUN STORAGE AT HOME SINCE IT
SEEMS THAT THE SHOOTER IN THIS
CASE TOOK THEM FROM HIS DAD.
BOTTOM LINE, SAY GUN CONTROL
ADVOCATES, JUST DO SOMETHING TO
MAKE IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE WHO
WANT TO DO BAD THINGS TO GET
THEIR HANDS ON A GUN.
BUT AS THE U.S. HAS FOUND TIME
AND AGAIN, IAN, EASY TO SAY.
>> Ian: OKAY, PAUL HUNTER IN
WASHINGTON, THANK YOU.
>>> WE ARE SLOWLY GETTING A
CLEARER PICTURE OF THE ACCUSED
GUNMAN TONIGHT.
17-YEAR-OLD DIMITRIOS PAGOURTZIS
IS DESCRIBED AS A GOOD STUDENT
WHO KEPT TO HIMSELF.
HE ALSO PLAYED ON THE FOOTBALL
TEAM.
POLICE STILL DON'T KNOW THE
MOTIVE FOR THIS SHOOTING BUT ONE
GRIEVING MOTHER THINKS THAT HER
DAUGHTER WAS INTENTIONALLY
TARGETED.
KATIE RODRIGUEZ SAYS THAT HER
DAUGHTER, SHAYNA, HAD REJECTED
MONTHS OF ROMANTIC ADVANCES FROM
THE GUNMAN.
>> HE SHE FINALLY STOOD UP TO
HIM AND SHE WAS SHOWING HER,
LOOK, THIS IS WHAT YOU DO.
YOU HAVE TO STAND UP BECAUSE SO
THEY KNOW IT'S NOT RIGHT.
>> Ian: SHE HAD JUST CELEBRATED
HER 16th BIRTHDAY.
>>> LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT
ELSE WE'RE WORKING ON TONIGHT...
SHE SENDS HER VACATION TO AN
END.
>>> AND TONIGHT ELIMINATION AND
DEVASTATION FOR JETS FANS.
WHILE THE PLAYOFF RUN ENDS FOR
CANADA'S TEAM VEGAS CONTINUES TO
BEAT THE ODDS.
>>> BUT, FIRST, THE INFERNO THAT
DEVOURED A DOWNTOWN CORE.
FIREFIGHTERS ARE STILL ON THE
SCENE TODAY OF A MULTIBUILDING
FIRE THAT HAS DEVASTATED
DOWNTOWN BRANDON, MANITOBA, MORE
THAN 150 PEOPLE WERE FORCED TO
FLEE THEIR BURNING APARTMENT
BUILDING.
WE SPOKE WITH SOME OF THE
RESIDENTS TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT
WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY AND HOW
THEY'RE COPING.
>> Reporter: THE FLAMES ARE OUT
BUT HOTSPOTS REMAIN.
THIS SPRINKLER ON AROUND THE
CLOCK TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING
ELSE BURNS.
A CHIMNEY IS THE ONLY THING LEFT
STANDING FROM THIS BRANDON
LANDMARK.
THE CHRISTIE'S OFFICE BUILDING
WAS AN HISTORIC PART OF THIS
DOWNTOWN.
OFFICIALS BELIEVE THAT THE FIRE
STARTED THERE AND THAT EMBERS
JUMPED ON THIS APARTMENT
BUILDING BEFORE THEN JUMPING
FURTHER ON A VACANT NIGHTCLUB
AND BEER STORE THIS FAMILY FLED
THEIR APARTMENT AS IT BURNED
YESTERDAY.
NOT THAT LONG AGO THEY FLED A
WAR ZONE TO GET TO CANADA.
>> [speaking foreign
LANGUAGE].
>> WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH A LOT
COMING FROM SYRIA AND WHAT WE
HAVE TO EVACUATE NOW AND TO GO
THROUGH THE SAME THING AND
EVACUATING HERE.
IT'S BEEN REALLY BEEN TOUGH ON
US BUT WE THANK GOD THAT THERE'S
NOBODY THAT GETS HURT OR NOBODY
GETS HURT.
>> Reporter: THEY HAVE NO
INSURANCE LIKE MANY OF THE
FAMILIES LIVING IN THIS
APARTMENT BUILDING RUN BY
COMMUNITY AGENCIES.
93 ADULTS AND 57 KIDS WERE LEFT
HOMELESS AND ARE NOW REGISTERED
WITH THE RED CROSS AS EVACUEES.
JUSTIN VERITER IS ONE OF THEM.
THE FATHER OF TWO COULDN'T
BELIEVE WHAT HE WAS SEEING.
>> I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE MY KIDS
SEE THAT.
BUT THERE'S A HUGE EXPLOSION IN
THE SKY AND THERE'S FIREFIGHTERS
AND A MANITOBA HYDRO GUY WAS
LIKE SPEEDING DOWN THE STREET.
YOU COULD TELL THAT SOMETHING
WAS WRONG.
>> Reporter: STORIES LIKE HIS
HAVE TOUCHED SO MANY IN BRANDON.
WITHIN HOURS OF PUTTING OUT A
CALL FOR CLOTHING DONATIONS,
VOLUNTEERS COULDN'T TAKE IN
ANYMORE.
>> IT'S BEEN AMAZING BUT AT THE
SAME TIME THIS IS BRANDON AND I
SORT OF SUSPECTED THIS IS
EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN
BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD JUST
RESPOND.
>> Reporter: FIRE CREWS HAD TO
BE CALLED IN FROM SEVERAL
NEIGHBOURING MANITOBA
COMMUNITIES.
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF RETIRED
FIREFIGHTERS.
>> Reporter: EVACUEES ARE
STAYING IN A HOTEL FOR NOW AND
FINDING NEW HOMES WON'T BE EASY.
THE VACANCY IS LOW AND THE MAYOR
ADMITS THAT WILL BE A CHALLENGE.
AUSTIN GRABCINCH H, CBC NEWS,
BRANDON.
>> Ian: RESIDENTS IN THE CITY
DIDN'T ONLY LOSE HOMES AND
BUSINESSES IN THOSE BUILDINGS
BUT THEY LOST SOME HISTORY TOO.
THE BUILDING WHERE THE FIRE
STARTED WAS HOME TO CHRISTIE'S
SINCE 1943 AND THE OFFICE SUPPLY
RETAILER WAS ONE OF BRANDON'S
FIRST BUSINESSES FOUNDED IN
1881, A YEAR BEFORE THE CITY WAS
INCORPORATED.
AS FOR MASSEY MANOR, IT WAS
BUILT IN 1913 AS AN INDUSTRIAL
WAREHOUSE AND ONCE USED AS
MILITARY BARRACKS IN FIRST WORLD
WAR AND IT WAS CONVERTED INTO
RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS.
>>> A CANADIAN WOMAN HAS A
WARNING FOR TRAVELLERS HEADING
TO RESORT DESTINATIONS.
SHE SAYS THAT HER VACATION ENDED
IN A RAPE WHEN A SECURITY GUARD
WORKING AT HER RESORT ATTACKED
HER.
NOW SHE AND OTHER WOMEN ARE
SPEAKING OUT AND SAYING THAT
SOME RESORTS DON'T TAKE RAPE
RESULTS SERIOUSLY.
ERICA JOHNSON HAS OUR "GO
PUBLIC" INVESTIGATION.
>> MY GUARD WAS COMPLETELY DOWN
AND SO I LANDED AGAINST THE WALL
AND HE HAD ME PINNED AGAINST THE
WALL.
>> Reporter: CHRISTINE DAMON WAS
VACATIONING WITH HER FAMILY IN
MARCH AT THIS RESORT IN THE
DOMINICAN.
ON HER LAST NIGHT SHE WAS
WALKING BACK TO HER ROOM AND
SAYS THAT A SECURITY GUARD RAPED
HER.
AND THEN RAN OFF.
SHE FILED A REPORT WITH THE
HOTEL BUT SAYS THAT STAFF DIDN'T
TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
>> THEY DID NOT OFFER ME POLICE
AND THEY DID NOT OFFER ME
MEDICAL AND THEY DID NOT OFFER
ME LOOKING AT HIS PICTURE.
I COULD HAVE IDENTIFIED HIM.
THE ONLY THING THEY OFFERED ME
WAS LATE CHECKOUT, THAT IS IT.
>> Reporter: ONCE HOME DAMON
POSTED A WARNING ABOUT THE HOTEL
ON TRIP ADVISOR.
>> I HAVE TO SPEAK OUT BECAUSE
IT'S A MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
THERE'S SOMEONE EMPLOYED THERE
THAT IS A PREDATOR.
AND IS UNDER THE GUISE OF A
SECURITY GUARD.
>> Reporter: "GO PUBLIC" HAS
FOUND OTHER WOMEN POSTING SOCIAL
MEDIA WARNINGS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT
BY RESORT EMPLOYEES IN VARIOUS
COUNTRIES.
MANY SAYING THAT THE HOTEL STAFF
DID NOT CONTACT POLICE, MEDICAL
AUTHORITIES.
AND TOLD ONE WOMAN SHE SHOULD
"JUST GO RELAX ON THE BEACH".
THIS LAWYER WHO SPECIALIZED IN
SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES FOR THREE
DECADES SAYS THAT INTERNATIONAL
RESORT CHAINS NEED PROTOCOLS IN
PLACE TO ENSURE POLICE GET
INVOLVED IF THAT'S WHAT THE
GUEST WANTS.
>> IF A REPORT IS NOT MADE TO
THE POLICE IN THAT JURISDICTION,
THE POLICE HERE CAN'T DO
ANYTHING OTHER THAN TAKE A
REPORT AND SEND IT THERE.
A PERSON CANNOT BE CHARGED IN A
JURISDICTION OTHER THAN THE
JURISDICTION WHERE THE ASSAULT
OCCURRED.
>> Reporter: THE RESORT WHERE
CHRISTINE DAMON STAYED DECLINED
AN INTERVIEW REQUEST.
IN A STATEMENT THE CHAIN SAYS
THEY TAKE "ANYATIONS ALLEGATIONS
SERIOUSLY" AND THAT STAFF WILL
"PROACTIVELY CONTACT LAW
ENFORCEMENT".
>> Ian: A DISTURBING STORY,
ERICA, AND THERE'S NO TELLING
HOW OFTEN THIS HAPPENS.
>> Reporter: THERE REALLY ISN'T,
IAN, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW SO
OFTEN WHEN PEOPLE ARE SEXUALLY
ASSAULTED THEY DON'T REPORT IT.
BUT EXPERTS THAT WE HAVE SPOKEN
TO IN THIS FIELD SAY THAT WE MAY
HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS NOW, PEOPLE
TAKING TO SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE
OF THE "ME TOO" MOVEMENT.
WOMEN WANT TO WARN OTHER FEMALE
TRAVELLERS BUT THEY'RE ALSO
HOPING THAT THE HOTELS WILL
CHANGE.
THE HOTEL ASSOCIATION HAS
LAUNCHED A PROGRAMME CALLED "IF
YOU'RE SHIPPED" IT'S AN ONLINE
TRAINING PROGRAMME AVAILABLE TO
ALL EMPLOYEES IN THE HOSPITALITY
AND THE TOURISM INDUSTRY.
AND BASICALLY IN PART IT'S
DESIGNED TO HELP TO HAVE
EMPLOYEES IDENTIFY WHEN HOE DELL
GUESTS MIGHT BE AT RISK OF
SEXUAL VIOLENCE AND THEN TO
TEACH THEM HOW TO INTERVENE.
A SPOKESPERSON SAID THAT THE
HOTEL INDUSTRY NEEDS TO
RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S NOT IMMUNE,
THAT SEXUAL ASSAULTS CAN HAPPEN
WITH HOTEL GUESTS AND EMPLOYEES.
AND IT WANTS TO BE A LEADER, NOT
JUST IN EDUCATION BUT MORE
IMPORTANTLY IN PREVENTION.
>> Ian: THANK YOU, ERICA.
>> Reporter: THANK YOU.
ROYCE OUR "GO PUBLIC" STORY
COMES FROM YOU AND TIPS THAT YOU
SEND IN.
SO IF YOU HAVE A STORY THAT
YOU'D LIKE OUR TEAM TO LOOK
INTO, SEND AN EMAIL TO
GOPUBLIC@CBC.CA.
>>> THE DAY AFTER HER WEDDING
THE NEW DUCHESS OF SUSSEX HAS
FOLLOWED A TRADITION OF ROYAL
BRIDES.
HER BOUQUET WAS LAID ON THE
GRAVE OF THE UNKNOWN WARRIOR AT
WESTMINSTER ABBEY.
SO AS PRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN
BEGIN LIFE AS NEWLYWEDS, BRITAIN
HAS TIDIED UP AND CARRIED ON.
THOMAS DAIGLE HAS DETAILS.
>> Reporter: EVEN THE MOST REGAL
OCCASION LEAVES BEHIND ITS OWN
TRAIL THROUGH THE STREETS.
BUT WITH A LITTLE CLEANUP
OVERNIGHT TODAY ROYAL FANS WERE
LINING UP TO SEE UPCLOSE WHAT
THEY'D SEEN ON SCREEN.
>> SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE INSIDE
THE CASTLE.
YESTERDAY I CAME TO WATCH THE
PROCESSION AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
>> WE HAVE BEEN QUEUING FOR HALF
AN HOUR SO IT MUST BE WORTH IT.
>> Reporter: THE GUARANTEE THAT
THE STORY PRINTED TODAY WOULD BE
THAT OF A PICTURE PERFECT
WEDDING IT.
TOOK MONTHS OF PLANNING.
TAKE THAT DRESS, THE PRODUCT OF
FIVE MONTHS OF WORK IN SECRET IN
PARIS.
CLARE WAIGH DESIGNED IT.
>> WOULDN'T IT BE AMAZING TO
EMBROIDER A FLOWER FROM EACH ONE
OF THE COMMONWEALTH STATES.
>> Reporter: IN THOSE DESIGNS
SOMEWHERE A LITTLE PIECE OF
CANADA.
THE BUDGEBERRY, THE UNOFFICIAL
NATIONAL FLOWER.
ONE OF THE MANY CONTRIBUTIONS TO
A CEREMONY THAT BROKE THE MOLD.
FROM THE SOULFUL SOUND... * SAND
BY ME *
TO THAT STIRRING SERMON.
>> THERE'S POWER IN LOVE.
>> Reporter: THE BISHOP MAY HAVE
MISSED THE PERPLEXED LOOKS ON
SOME ROYALS AND HE SAID THAT HE
WAS FOCUSED ON THE BRIDE AND
GROOM.
>> WE GOT TO GET Y'ALL MARRIED.
>> LONG AFTER I HAVE FLOWN BACK
TO THE U.S. THEY'LL HAVE AN
IMPACT THROUGH THEIR LIVES AND
THEIR LIFE TOGETHER THAT'S GOING
TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS
WORLD.
>> Reporter: THE QUEEN WAS SEEN
TODAY AS SHE HEADED TO CHURCH.
THE ONLY OTHER FAMILY MEMBER
SPOTTED WERE WILLIAM AND KATE
WITH SON GLASSES HIDING ANY
INDICATION OF LAST NIGHT'S
PARTY.
IN THE GARDENS HERE AT
BUCKINGHAM PALACE ON TUESDAY THE
NEWLYWEDS WILL CELEBRATE PRINCE
CHARLES' UPCOMING 70th
BIRTHDAY.
IT'S JUST ONE OF THE COUNTLESS
OCCASIONS WHERE THEY'LL POSE FOR
PICTURES AND SHAKE HANDS AS THE
NEW DUKE AND DUCHESS OF SUSSEX.
THOMAS DAIGLE, CBC NEWS, LONDON.
NOITION WHAT ELSE IS IN THE
CARDS FOR THE NEWIE WEDS?
IT'S EXPECTED THAT THERE WILL BE
A HONEYMOON BUT WE DON'T KNOW
WHERE.
THEY MAY CHOOSE BOTSWANA, AND
WHERE HARRY SAYS THEY FELL IN
LOVE.
MEANWHILE THEY'LL CONTINUE TO
LIVE IN NOTTINGHAM COTTAGE STEPS
AWAY FROM KENSINGTON PALACE AND
WHERE THEY'LL EVENTUALLY MOVE
INTO A LARGE APARTMENT.
AS FOR THEIR FIRST ROYAL TOUR
OVERSEAS IT'S LIKELY TO BE
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA, HOSTING THE
INVICTUS GAMES THIS OCTOBER.
A LOT OF PEOPLE TUNED IN
YESTERDAY FOR THE BIG DAY.
WE HAVE THE NUMBERS FROM THE
U.S. AUDIENCE 17.6 MILLION
VIEWERS.
THAT WAS JUST ON THE THREE MAIN
NETWORKS.
IN THE U.K., 18 MILLION WERE
WATCHING.
AND WHILE IT WILL LIKELY BE
BRITAIN'S BIGGEST TV AUDIENCE OF
THE YEAR, STILL SMALLER THAN THE
VIEWERSHIP FOR WILLIAM AND
KATE'S WEDDING.
>>> AHEAD TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL," DISAPPOINTMENT IN
WINNIPEG, THE JETS ARE OUT OF
THE PLAYOFFS.
>> AND AND WHY SEX WORKERS IN
LOS ANGELES MEAN THAT A NEW LAW
TO PROTECT THEM IS ACTUALLY
PUTTING THEM IN MORE DANGER.
>>> FIRST, AWARD-WINNING ACTOR
AND ACTIVIST STEVEN FREY SITS
DOWN WITH "THE NATIONAL" TO TALK
MONARCHY AND TRUMP AND THE CASE
AGAINST POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.
>> THE WRONG WAY TO DO IS TO
ALIENATE THOSE ON THE EDGE AND
NOT QUITE SURE BY TELLING THEM
THAT THEY'RE SPEAKING WRONG OR
USING THE WRONG LANGUAGE.
YOU CAN'T, DAMN YOU, I WILL TALK
HOW I WANT TO TALK.
DON'T TELL ME H
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>> JUST MUD.
LOOK AT THAT.
>> Ian: ON "THE NATIONAL"
TONIGHT, SOME OF THE
FLOOD-WE'RING RESIDENTS IN GRAND
FORKS, B.C., ARE BACK HOME AND
THEY'RE CLEANING UP.
OFFICIALS LIFTED 175 EVACUATION
ORDERS TODAY IN THE ROONION, TWO
WEEKS -- REGION, TWO WEEKS AFTER
THE DEVASTATING FLOODING BEGAN.
CREWS ARE WORKING THROUGH THE
FLOOD ZONE AND IDENTIFYING WHICH
HOUSES AND BUILDINGS CAN BE
SALVAGED.
>>> IN HAWAII OFFICIALS ARE
WORRIED THAT LAVA FLOWING FROM
THE KILAUEA VOLCANO COULD BLOCK
THE ONLY ESCAPE ROUTE AND AS
THAT LAVA REACHES THE PACIFIC
OCEAN THERE'S ANOTHER DANGER TO
WORRY ABOUT -- LAVES, A
COMBINATION OF LAVA AND HAZE.
WHEN IT HITS SEA WATER IT
RELEASES GIANT PLUMES OF
HYDROCHLORIC ACID AND STEAM AND
VOLCANIC GLASS PARTICLES.
BREATHING IT BE NOT JUST PAINFUL
BUT EVEN DEADLY.
>>> DONALD TRUMP CONTINUES TO
RAMP UP HIS WAR OF WORDS OVER
THE RUSSIA PROBE.
IN A TWEET THE U.S. PRESIDENT
SAID THAT HE'LL DEMAND THAT THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATE
WHETHER THE F.B.I. INFILTRATED
HIS 2016 CAMPAIGN.
TRUMP MAINTAINS THAT THE RUSSIA
ALLEGATIONS ARE POLITICALLY
MOTIVATED AND HAD THEIR ROOTS IN
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
>>> INTENSE NEGOTIATIONS ARE
STILL ON BETWEEN ALBERTA, B.C.,
AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVER
THE TRANSMOUNTAIN PIPELINE
EXPANSION.
AND THE PROTESTS CONTINUED TOO
ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER.
TODAY IN WASHINGTON STATES, SOME
AMERICANS TOOK THEIR PROTESTS TO
THE WATER.
CBC'S BRIAR STEWART TAKES US
THERE.
>> Reporter: JUST OFF THE COAST
OF SEATTLE DOZENS OF AMERICAN
PADDLERS ARE PREPARING TO
PROTEST AN INCREASINGLY
CONTENTIOUS CANADIAN PROJECT.
>> WE'RE TAKING TO THE WATER AND
WE HAVE A RALLY GOING ON ON THE
LAND TO PROTEST KINDER MORGAN'S
BUILDING OF THE NEW PIPELINE AND
TAKING TAR SANDS PRODUCT OUT TO
THE COAST.
>> Reporter: THE PADDLERS ARE
HEADING TOWARDS KINDER MORGAN'S
MARINE TERMINAL.
THE COMPANY AND ITS
TRANSMOUNTAIN EXPANSION PIPELINE
IS FREQUENTLY THE TARGET OF
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS ON BOTH
SIDES OF THE BORDER.
IF IT'S BUILT THE PIPELINE WOULD
END ABOUT 200 KILOMETRES NORTH
OF HERE SO FOR ACTIVISTS IN
WASHINGTON STATE THEIR MAIN
CONCERN ISN'T SO MUCH THE LINE
ITSELF BUT ALL OF THE INCREASED
OIL TRAFFIC THAT THE PROJECT
COULD BRING.
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT
IMPACT A SPILL COULD HAVE ON THE
ENVIRONMENT, BUT THEY'RE ALSO
RALLYING AROUND A MUCH BIGGER
ISSUE THAN THE 1,200 KILOMETRE
LINE.
>> IT'S ABOUT KINDER MORGAN AND
IT'S ABOUT THE LARGER ISSUE AND
HOW IT CONNECTS TO CLIMATE
CHANGE.
>> Reporter: FOR MANY THE SINGLE
PROJECT HAS COME TO REPRESENT
THE ENTIRE FIGHT OVER THE OIL
INDUSTRY AND ITS GOAL IN GLOBAL
WARMING.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT THIS AUTHOR
SAYS THAT THE CONVERSATION
AROUND THE PROJECT ITSELF HAS
BECOME CONVOLUTED.
>> THE ALLEGED IMPORTANCE OF
THIS PARTICULAR PIPELINE I THINK
HAS BECOME A LITTLE BIT
EXAGGERATED, ON PARTICULAR ON
THE CLIMATE FRONT.
IT IS REALLY NOT, YOU KNOW, A
MAKE-OR-BREAK POINT NECESSARILY
FOR CANADA'S ACTION ON CLIMATE
CHANGE.
>> Reporter: BUT THOSE HERE SEE
IT MUCH DIFFERENTLY AND ARE
QUICK TO CALL OUT THE CANADIAN
GOVERNMENT FOR APPROVING THE
PROJECT.
>> TRUDEAU HAS PROMISED A NUMBER
OF THINGS TO BOTH CANADA AND THE
WORLD AND CALLS HIMSELF A
CLIMATE HERO AND IF HE'S A
CLIMATE HERO HE DOESN'T BUILD A
PIPELINE LIKE THIS.
>> Reporter: BECAUSE WHEN IT
COMES TO THE KINDER MORGAN
PROJECT, THE DEBATE HAS PROVED
MUCH LARGER AND IT'S EXTENDED
MUCH FURTHER THAN THE PIPELINE'S
ROUTE.
BRIAR STEWART, CBC NEWS,
SEATTLE.
>> Ian: THE KINDER MORGAN
PIPELINE WILL ALSO BE THE FOCUS
OF OUR "NATIONAL" DOCUMENTARY
TOMORROW NIGHT.
AND WE WANTED TO KNOW HOW PEOPLE
WHO LIVE ALONG THE EXPANSION
ROUTE REALLY FEEL SO WE SENT OUR
NICK PURDON TO TALK TO THEM.
HE DROVE FROM EDMONTON TO
VANCOUVER TO TAKE THE
TEMPERATURE AND FIND OUT WHAT'S
AT STAKE FOR THE PEOPLE AND
THEIR COMMUNITIES.
HERE'S A PREVIEW...
>> Reporter: WHAT WOULD THE
PIPELINE MEAN FOR YOUR TOWN?
>> JOBS, JOBS, AND MORE JOBS.
I KNOW THAT THEY'RE THINKING OF
BRINGING IN A 500-MAN CAMP.
THEY CAME AND DID A BIG OPEN
HOUSE, KINDER MORGAN DID, AND
TOLD US ALL HOW TO APPLY FOR
GOOD-PAYING JOBS.
>> Reporter: PATTY TELLS ME HOW
HER TOWN HAS FALLEN ON HARD
TIMES SINCE THE LOGGING DRIED
UP.
SHE'S NOT WORRIED ABOUT
ENVIRONMENTAL RISKS, SHE'S
WORRIED ABOUT BLUE RIVER.
>> I LOVE THIS PLACE.
IT'S JUST A JEWEL OF THE
YELLOWHEAD HIGHWAY, BLUE RIVER.
IT DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER.
THIS WHOLE VALLEY NEEDS IT.
WE REALLY NEED IT BAD.
THE JOBS.
AND JUST THE PEOPLE AND
EVERYTHING, WE NEED THE PIPELINE
TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO
SURVIVE.
>> Ian: YOU CAN SEE NICK'S
ENTIRE DOCUMENTARY TOMORROW
NIGHT ON "THE NATIONAL".
>>> UP NEXT TONIGHT ON THE
PROGRAMME... THE WORLD ACCORDING
TO STEVEN FREY.
THE BRITISH COMEDIAN GIVES US
HIS VIEWS ON POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS AND THE VEHICLES OF
HAVING A MONARCHY AND, OF
COURSE, DONALD TRUMP.
>> EVERY SINGLE RESTAURANT TABLE
AND EVERY SINGLE BAR ROOM AND
EVERY COFFEE SHOP CONVERSATION
YOU HEAR TRUMP.
AND I SAID HE'S THE DR. SUE
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>> I THINK THAT IT'S TIME FOR
THIS TOXIC BINARY, ZERO SUM
MADNESS TO STOP BEFORE WE
DESTROY OURSELVES.
[Applause]
>> Ian: THAT WAS BRITISH
COMEDIAN STEPHEN FRY ON FRIDAY
NIGHT SPEAKING AGAINST POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS IN THE HIGH-PROFILE
MUNK DEBATE BESIDE JORDAN
PETERSON.
SOME MAY BE SURPRISED THAT A
SELF-DESCRIBED LIBERAL LIKE FRY
WOULD TAKE THAT POSITION BUT HE
HAS HIS REASONS.
AND HE GAVE THEM TO OUR SUSAN
ORMISTON IN A CONVERSATION THAT
COVERED A LOT OF GROUND --
DONALD TRUMP, THE MONARCHY, AND
WHY HE'S BEEN WORKING IN CANADA.
TAKE A LOOK...
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>> Reporter: STEVEN FREY,
COMEDIAN --
>> YOUR TEA, SIR.
>
>> We are working together.
To host of Q.I. and from west
end to broadway plays and to
documentaries, Steven Frey has a
unique place in British culture
and increasingly in America.
This is where the party is
happening.
>> Thank you.
>> Reporter: But for the next
two months he's taking up
residence here in Canada at
Niagara-on-the-lake.
HE VISITED US TO TELL US ABOUT
THE WORLD ACCORDING TO STEVEN
FREY.
SO GREEK MYTHOLOGY FROM YOUR
BOOK.
AND YOU'RE DOING A WORLD
PREMIERE AT THE SHAW.
WHAT ARE YOU HOPING TO DRAW OUT
OF THE GREEK MYTHS AND PUT ON
STAGE?
>> WELL, FIRST AND FOREMOST
STORY.
I MEAN, THEY ARE THE MOST
WONDERFUL STORIES THAT I HAVE
EVER HEARD AND THEY ARE PRIMAL
IN THEIR ABSOLUTE -- THEIR
JUICE, THEIR EXCITEMENT AND THE
FACT THAT THEY'RE ABOUT PEOPLE
AND THEY ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT
WHY AND HOW WE ARE, BUT ALWAYS
WITH THE USE OF A STORY WHICH I
THINK THEY DON'T LECTURE YOU --
THEY'RE NOT MORAL TONES AND THEY
DON'T SAY, THIS TEACHES YOU
THIS.
THOUGH YOU CAN DRAW MORAL FROM
IT IF YOU WANT.
>> Reporter: STEVEN FREY HAS A
HEALTHY DISDAIN FOR OUGHTS AND
SHOULDS AND POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS.
>> I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU CALL ME
AND IT'S HOW YOU TREAT ME THAT
MATTERS ROMP.
>> Reporter: HE ARGUED WITH
JORDAN PETERSON THAT P.C.
CULTURE HAS GONE TOO FAR.
>> POLITICAL CORRECTNESS,
RESIST, FIGHT.
IF YOU HAVE A POINT OF VIEW
FIGHT IT IN THE PROPER MANNER
USING DEMOCRACY AS IT SHOULD BE
AND NOT CHANNELS OF EDUCATION
AND NOT LANGUAGE.
[Applause]
>> Reporter: SO WHAT IS IT ABOUT
P.C. THAT YOU DON'T LIKE?
>> SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS AND
PREACHINESS AND HOLIER THAN
THOUNESS.
AND PIETY.
YOU COULD ARGUE WHEN I GREW UP
THAT POLITICAL CORRECTNESS WAS
NOT OFFENDING SOMEONE'S RELIGION
BY MAKING A JOKE ABOUT IT OR NOT
SAYING A POLITICAL WORD ON
TELEVISION BECAUSE IT WAS
CONSIDERED RUDE.
AND NOW IT'S A DIFFERENT SET OF
THINGS THAT IS ASSUMED TO BE IT,
AND IT'S THE SAME IDEA GOING
BACK TO WHAT IS HAIR HERESAY AND
WHAT ISN'T.
I'M A CONTRARIAN, IF I WERE
BRAVE ENOUGH IN THE 15th,
16th CENTURY IN SPAIN I WOULD
HAVE BEEN A HERETIC.
AND THE PRICE WAS MUCH HIGHER
THAN IT IS NOW.
AND THE PRICE IS NOW TO BE
DE-PLATFORMED OR TO SUFFER A
TWITTER STORM OR SOMETHING.
BUT MY OBJECTION IS SIMPLY THAT
IF YOU WANT TO ADVANCE THE
CAUSES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO
ADVANCE IN TERMS OF INCLUSION
AND DIVERSITY AND EQUALITY FOR
EVERYONE AND A NICE FLUFFY
GORGEOUS WAY THAT I THINK ABOUT
THESE THINGS, THE WRONG WAY TO
DO IS TO ALIENATE THOSE ON THE
EDGE AND NOT QUITE SURE BY
TELLING THEM THAT THEY'RE
SPEAKING WRONG, USING THE WRONG
LANGUAGE.
AND THEY CAN'T TALK LIKE THAT.
AND YOU MUST NOT, AND YOU CAN'T.
DAMN IT, DON'T TELL ME HOW TO
TALK.
DON'T CENSOR ME.
DON'T BE, YOU KNOW --
>> Reporter: BUT YOU'RE SAYING
NO DEBATE?
>> THAT'S WHY I'M ON THE SAME
SIDE IN THE DEBATES WITH WHOM I
SHARE VERY LITTLE POLITICAL --
>> Reporter: I WANTED TO ASK
ABOUT JORDAN PETERSON IS VERY
CONTROVERSIAL IN THIS COUNTRY
AND YOU'RE ON HIS SIDE.
WHAT WAY DO YOU ALIGN WITH HIS
VIEWS?
>> I DON'T ALIGN AS FAR AS I
KNOW WITH HIS VIEWS BUT I'M
PREACHING THE DEBATES ACCORDING
TO THE PROPOSITION.
AND THE PROPOSITION IS THAT THE
OTHER SIDE, AS YOU MIGHT SAY,
ARE SAYING POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
IS JUST A PHRASE MEANING
"PROGRESS".
AND I DON'T THINK THAT IS RIGHT.
>> Reporter: WHAT DO YOU THINK
ABOUT THE PRICE FOR SOME OF
THOSE, PERHAPS TO SOME HERETICAL
COMMENTS?
TWITTER IS REAL TO LOTS OF
PEOPLE AND YOU LOVE THE iPHONE
AND YOU SAID THAT YOU HAVE NEVER
MET A SMARTPHONE THAT YOU DIDN'T
FALL IN LOVE WITH.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> Reporter: BUT THERE'S A BIG
PRICE THESE DAYS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS WHOLE
COMMUNITY OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND
WHAT IT DOES TO THE FABRIC OF
OUR SOCIETY AND WHAT IT DOES TO
OUR CAPACITY TO THINK?
>> IT'S REALLY A SERIES OF
QUESTIONS AND IT'S UNPACKING
THEM.
ONE WAY THAT I APPROACH IT,
COMING BACK TO A GREEK MYTH.
WHEN SOCIAL MEDIA BEGAN AND I
RUSHED ON BOARD VERY EXCITED AND
I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL
GIFTED AND THIS IS THE ALL
GIFTED WORLD IN WHICH CONNECTION
AND INFORMATION AND EDUCATION
AND ART, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING
TO MELT DOWN BARRIERS BETWEEN
PEOPLE.
THERE WILL BE NO MORE TRIBALISM
AND NONE OF THIS SORT OF RACIST
--
>> Reporter: AN OPEN AND FREE
SOCIETY.
>> AND IN THE GREEK MYTH THE
GODS PUNISH MAN BY SENDING THEM
THE GIFTED WORDS AND PANDORA
CAME DOWN WITH THIS JAR THAT WAS
-- SHE WAS TOLD NOT TO OPEN AND
SHE COULDN'T RESIST.
AND SHE OPENED UP THE JAR AND
OUT FLEW ILLNESS AND
MANSLAUGHTER AND MURDER AND
DISEASE, AND FROM HAVING IT BEEN
A PARADISE IT SEEMED TO BECOME
IMPOSSIBLE.
BUT THAT'S THE WORLD THAT WE
LIVE IN, A WORLD FULL OF GHASTLY
PROBLEMS.
AND THE SAME HAPPENED WITH THE
INTERNET.
FROM HAVING THOUGHT THIS WILL
SOLVE ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS AND
EVERYONE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH
EACH OTHER AND NO
MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND EVERYTHING
WILL BE WONDERFUL.
AND SUDDENLY ONE BECAME AWARE
THAT IT WAS A PANDORA'S BOX THAT
OPENED AND OUT CAME TROLLERS AND
NASTY AND TERRIBLE, GROOMING AND
-- AND ALL OF THE HORRORS THAT
HAVE COME OUT OF IT.
AND ONE THEN THINKS MAYBE IT'S
TERRIBLE.
I THINK THAT IT'S SETTLING DOWN.
I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE
THINKING LESS OR HAVE LESS
COGNITIVE SKILLS OR LESS ABILITY
TO RELATE THAN THEY DID 10, 20,
30 YEARS AGO.
I DON'T THINK THAT AT ALL.
>> Reporter: BUT YOU SAID THAT
IT'S SETTLING DOWN.
IT'S SETTLING DOWN IN AMERICA
WITH THE FIRST REAL TWITTER
PRESIDENT WHO USES THAT AS HIS
PERSONAL TOOL?
YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT TRUMP.
HOW DO YOU SEE AMERICA TODAY?
>> WELL, IT'S TERRIBLY
UNFORTUNATE, BUT I DO BELIEVE IN
THE WHEEL OF FORTUNE.
I DO THINK THAT THINGS TURN.
IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO WHEN IT
WAS BILL CLINTON IN AMERICA AND
TONY BLAIR IN BRITAIN AND THEY
WERE AT THE TOP OF THE WHEEL OF
FORTUNE.
AND NOW THEY'RE RIGHT AT THE
BOTTOM.
AND IN 10 YEARS' TIME IT WILL BE
DIFFERENT.
IT SOUNDS THAT I'M NOT CARING
ABOUT THE MISERY AND THE
ABSURDITY AND THE VULGARITY AND
THE GANGSTER CRIMINALITY OF THE
TRUMP REGIME AND WE ALL KNOW
THAT IT'S TRUE.
PEOPLE WHO DON'T ARE JUST BEING
BLIND AND FOOLISH.
BUT IT'S ALSO TRUE THAT HE'S
ACHIEVING WHAT HE SET OUT TO
ACHIEVE AND THAT THE AMERICAN
ECONOMY WILL PROBABLY PROSPER,
ENOUGH TO WIN THE NEXT ELECTION,
WHETHER WE LIKED HIM OR NOT.
>> Reporter: ISN'T IT YOUR VIEW
THAT YOU THINK THAT THE MEDIA,
FOR EXAMPLE, AND MANY OTHERS ARE
GIVING HIM EXACTLY WHAT HE NEEDS
TO FEED IT?
>> OF COURSE THEY ARE.
I REMEMBER SAYING TO SOMEONE,
YOU KNOW, THEY SAY OF HITLER
THAT HE WAS THE MOST
PHOTOGRAPHED MAN IN HISTORY.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT TRUMP IS
THE MOST TALKED ABOUT MAN IN
HISTORY.
AND EVERY SINGLE RESTAURANT
TABLE, EVERY SINGLE BAR ROOM AND
EVERY SINGLE COFFEE SHOP
CONVERSATION YOU COULD JUST HEAR
THE WORD TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP.
AND HE'S THE TRUMP ALONE, LIKE A
DR. SUESS CHARACTER.
THE MORE YOU SAY HIS NAME THE
BIGGER HE GETS.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO DEFEAT HIM
IS NEVER MENTION HIS NAME.
JUST DON'T TALK ABOUT HIM.
HE MAKES MONEY AND YOU SEE TRUMP
SAYS... AND YOU IMMEDIATELY
PRESS THE TAPE.
BECAUSE YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT
TRUMP SAID.
AND THAT'S OUR FAULT, NOT HIS.
AND PARTICULARLY THE FAULT -- IF
I CAN COUNT MYSELF AS A LEFTIST,
WHICH I DO, I DON'T SEE THE RISE
OF TRUMP OR THE RISE OF BREXIT
IN BRITAIN AS THE FAILURE OF THE
LEFT.
AND IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT
I THINK THAT POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS HAS SOME PART TO
PLAY IN THAT.
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>> Reporter: FRY IS FIERCELY
BRITISH.
HE ADMIRES THE BRITISH MONARCHY
AND HE'S CLOSE TO THE ROYAL
FAMILY.
HE CONSIDERS PRINCE CHARLES A
FRIEND AND IT'S RECIPROCATED.
>> I THINK THAT PROBABLY STEPHEN
IS REALLY A RIGHT PERSON WHO HAS
BEEN ADDED IN A RENAISSANCE MAN.
>> Reporter: HE SAYS THAT THE
MARRIAGE OF HARRY AND MEGHAN
REINFORCES THE MONARCHS.
>> ONE OF THE REMARKABLE THINGS
IS ITS ADAPTABILITY AND ITS
ABILITY TO SURVIVE.
AND THOUGH IT'S PREPOSTEROUS IT
WORKED TERRIBLY WELL.
NOW IF YOU IMAGINE THAT TRUMP
EVERY WEEK HAD TO GO UP CAPITOL
HILL TO A SORT OF WHITE COLONIAL
BUILDING IN WHICH UNCLE SAM
LIVED WHO WAS THE EM BODIMENT --
EMBODIEMENT OF AMERICA, IT WOULD
SHOW HIM THAT HE WAS THE SERVANT
TO HIS COUNTRY.
AND THAT'S WHAT A BRITISH PRIME
MINISTER HAS TO DO.
EVERY WEEK THEY HAVE TO GO TO
QUEEN AND IT JUST KEEPS THE
POLITICIANS IN PLACE BECAUSE
THEY'VE GOT THIS IMAGE, THIS
PERSONIFICATION THAT THE ENTIRE
COUNTRY AND ITS HISTORY, A
LIVING FLAG, IF YOU LIKE, WHO
GOES AROUND IN A COACH.
AND IT'S KIND OF PREPOSTEROUS.
>> Reporter: KIND OF?
MANY WOULD SAY THAT IT'S
COMPLETELY OLD SCHOOL AND SHOULD
BE ABANDONED.
>> THEY ARE AND THAT'S NOT TRUE,
IT'S FOOLISH TO GET RID OF IT
EVEN IF IT WORKS.
>> Reporter: THERE'S NO WONDER
THAT PRINCE CHARLES THINKS THAT
YOU'RE A NATIONAL TREASURE.
>> I AM FULLY AWARE OF HOW
PREPOSTEROUS IT IS AND IT WORKS
FOR US.
IT ADDS TO THE NATIONS.
>> Reporter: DOES MEGHAN BRING
AN INTERESTING DYNAMIC?
THIS IS THE NEW PIECE OF THEATRE
AND MANY PICK UP ON THAT.
>> AND IT'S A REFLECTION ON THE
CHANGES.
AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE BETTER
ALLOW IT, AND EVERYONE IS
THRILLED FOR AN INJECTION OF NEW
BLOOD.
IN THE SENSE OF A NEW ATTITUDE
AND A NEW GENERATIONAL AND A NEW
WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS.
I THINK THAT IS WHAT I MEANT
ABOUT THE ADAPTABILITY IN THE
ROYAL FAMILY.
THEY SORT OF ALWAYS SEEM TO
CATCH -- AND IT'S LITERALLY
ALWAYS THE WOMEN.
OUR BEST MONARCHS ARE QUEEN
ELIZABETH I AND II BAY FAR.
AND WE SHOULD ONLY HAVE A QUEEN.
>> Reporter: OR STIR THINGS UP.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Reporter: IT'S BEEN A REAL
PLEASURE.
>> Ian: AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL"... A NEW LAW IN THE
UNITED STATES HAS BEEN MEANT TO
SHUT DOWN INTERNET SEX
TRAFFICKERS.
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS SAY IT
WILL SAVE LIVES BUT SEX WORKERS
SAY IT WILL ACTUALLY PUT THEM IN
GREATER DANGER THAN EVER.
>> YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO
YOU'LL GET IN THE CAR WITH.
AND THERE'S NO WAY TO REPORT
VIOLENT PEOPLE IN THAT WAY.
>> IF SOMEBODY THROWS YOU IN A
ROOM WITH A BUNCH OF GUYS AND
YOU END UP, YOU KNOW, GETTING
GANG RAPED YOU HAVE A
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>> Ian: CANADIAN HOCKEY FANS ARE
DREAMING OF THE STANLEY CUP
NORTH OF THE 49th PARALLEL
WILL HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR.
THE WINNIPEG JETS HAVE BEEN
GROUNDED.
NOW AS MUCH AS TODAY'S
ELIMINATION STINGS IT WASN'T THE
RUN FOR THE TEAM AND THE CITY.
IT MAY NOT FEEL THAT WAY RIGHT
NOW BUT AS ERIN BROHMAN TELLS US
IT WAS A STELLAR SEASON.
>> Reporter: EXCITEMENT WAS HIGH
INSIDE OF THE WINNIPEG WHITEOUT
TODAY AS JETS FANS GEARED UP FOR
A DO-OR-DIE BATTLE WITH THE
VEGAS GOLDEN KNIGHTS.
>> WE'RE FEELING REALLY EXCITED.
I REALLY HOPE THAT THEY WIN THIS
GAME AND EXTEND IT.
BUT WIN OR LOSE, WIN OR LOSE
WE'RE STILL PROUD OF THEM.
>> Reporter: A RECORD NUMBER
SHOWED UP AGAIN AS THEY HAVE SO
MANY TIMES BEFORE, HOPING THAT
THEIR SHEER ENERGY WOULD HELP TO
PUSH THE BOYS TO VICTORY.
>> I LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING
BETTER THAN WALKING INTO, YOU
KNOW, THE STREET PARTY AND
GETTING GOOSEBUMPS OR GETTING ON
THE BUS AND GETS GOOSEBUMPS.
THEN YOU GET IN THE ARENA AND
YOU GOT GOOSEBUMPS FOR 2 1/2
HOURS.
>> Reporter: BUT AS GAME WORE ON
THE EXCITEMENT TURNED TO
TENSION, EVEN FEAR.
THE GOLDEN KNIGHTS DREW FIRST
BLOOD IN THE FIRST PERIOD.
THE JETS TIED IT UP BUT VEGAS
WENT AHEAD AGAIN IN THE SECOND
PERIOD.
WITHOUT ANSWER FROM WINNIPEG.
AND THEN IT WAS OVER.
AND THE VEGAS GOLDEN KNIGHTS
WILL PLAY...
>> Reporter: FANS WERE CRUSHED.
>> IT'S A DAGGER IN THE HEART
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PROMISE.
I STILL FEEL THAT THE BETTER
TEAM DIDN'T WIN THE SERIES.
JETS ARE A BETTER TEAM TOP AND
BOTTOM.
>> I'M HAPPY THAT THEY GOT THIS
FAR BUT I'M ALSO LIKE REALLY
DISAPPOINTED THEY COULDN'T WIN
THE STANLEY CUP.
>> Reporter: BUT FOR THE JET
PLAYERS IT WASN'T THE LOSS, IT
WAS THE DEVASTATING END OF A
CINDERELLA SEASON.
>> AND THE HEART AND THE
CHARACTER AND THOSE ARE TWO
THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T TEACH.
YOU HAVE IT OR YOU DON'T.
I THINK THAT THIS TEAM HAS IT.
>> Reporter: DESPITE THE PAIN
WINNIPEG CAN HOLD ITS HEAD HIGH.
THE JETS HAVE HELPED TO
REVITALIZE THEIR CITY EVER SINCE
THE RETURN TO THE LEAGUE IN
2011.
BUT THIS SEASON WAS A TRUE
CINDERELLA RUN.
THEY SMASHED THROUGH THE
MINNESOTA WILD, THEY TAMED THE
NASHVILLE PREDATORS AND EVEN
THOUGH THE VEGAS GOLDEN KNIGHTS
PROVED TOO MUCH, WINNIPEG FANS
ARE ALREADY LOOKING AHEAD TO
NEXT YEAR.
>> WE'RE GOING TO LICK OUR
WOUNDS AND COME BACK STRONGER
NEXT YEAR AND MORE POWERFUL.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S OPTIMISM.
SOMETHING THAT THIS CITY HAS
BEEN YEARNING FOR FOR 30 YEARS.
>> Reporter: WHILE FANS FROM THE
REST OF THE COUNTRY OFFER THANKS
AND A SALUTE FOR A VALIANT
EFFORT THAT WON'T BE FORGOTTEN.
ERIN BROHMAN, CBC NEWS,
WINNIPEG.
>> Ian: WELL, YOU CAN DECIDE
WHETHER THE BEST TEAM WON BUT
ONE THING IS CLEAR, THE TEAM
THAT BEAT THE JETS IS HAVING AN
UNBELIEVABLE RUN.
THE GOLDEN KNIGHTS WILL PLAY FOR
THE STANLEY CUP IN THEIR FIRST
SEASON.
WHEN YOU THINK OF GREAT TEAMS
THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT THIS FAR YOU
CAN SEE THAT VEGAS HAS ALREADY
DONE THE INCREDIBLE.
SERIOUS TALK OF VEGAS GETTING A
FRANCHISE ONLY STARTED ABOUT
THREE YEARS AGO.
THE DEAL SIGNED IN 2016.
THE GOLDEN KNIGHTS LACING UP FOR
THE FIRST TIME IN SEPTEMBER.
AND THEY HAVE BEEN SETTING
EXPANSION TEAM RECORDS EVER
SINCE.
MOST WINS.
MOST POINTS.
FIRST EXPANSION TEAM TO MAKE THE
PLAYOFFS SINCE THE EDMONTON
OILERS AND THE HARTFORD WHALERS
IN THE 1980s AND THOSE WERE
ALREADY ESTABLISHED TEAMS, THOSE
TWO.
AND THEY WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE
FINALS SINCE THE ST. LOUIS BLUES
IN 1968 BUT THE BLUES ONLY BEAT
OTHER EXPANSION TEAMS TO GET TO
THE FINAL.
ONE LAST NOTE THAT WE WOULD LIKE
TO POINT OUT, THE GOLDEN
KNIGHTS' ROSTER IS
OVERWHELMINGLY CANADIAN.
NOW AS MANY OF YOU KNOW ALL TOO
WELL IT'S BEEN 2 1/2 DECADES
SINCE ANY CANADIAN TEAM RAISED
THE STANLEY CUP.
THAT'S WHEN THE HABS BROUGHT IT
HOME IN 1993.
[Cheers and Applause]
IT'S FITTING PERHAPS THAT THE
LAST CANADIAN TEAM TO HOIST THE
CUP IS ALSO THE TEAM THAT HAS
WON IT MORE THAN ANY OTHERS.
BUT BACK IN 1993, SOME FANS
SPOILED THE CELEBRATION BY
RIOTING.
THE LAST CANADIAN TEAM TO EVEN
APPEAR IN THE FINALS, WELL, THAT
WAS THE VANCOUVER CANUCKS IN
20111.
THEY LOST TO THE BOSTON BRUINS
AFTER A HARD FOUGHT SEVEN GAMES.
AND FOR THE SUBJECT TIME IN 17
YEARS THE CANUCKS LOST IN THE
FINAL THAT LED TO A NIGHT OF
DESTRUCTIVE RIOTS.
JUST OVER A MONTH AGO U.S.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SIGNED
OFF ON A NEW LEGISLATION AIMED
AT SHUTTING DOWN INTERNET SEX
TRAFFICKING.
AND PROTECTING THOSE MOST
EXPLOITED BY THE UNDERBELLY OF
THE SEX TRADE.
IT WAS PASSED WITH OVERWHELMING
SUPPORT FROM REPUBLICANS AND
DEMOCRATS BUT THAT RARE MOMENT
OF COOPERATION HAS SERIOUS
IMPLICATIONS FOR SEX WORKERS
THEMSELVES WITH MANY SAYING THAT
IT WILL PUT THEM IN GREATER
DANGER BY DRIVING THEM RIGHT
BACK TO THE PERILS OF THE
STREET.
HERE'S KIM BRUNHUBER WITH OUR
"DISPATCH FROM LOS ANGELES".
>> Reporter: IT WAS, SHE SAYS,
AS THOUGH SHE'D ARRIVED AT WORK
ONE DAY TO FIND HER OFFICE HAD
BURNED DOWN.
>> SO IMAGINE IF YOU JUST LOST
YOUR WHOLE SOURCE OF INCOME LIKE
THAT.
>> Reporter: LAURA LAMOON IS A
SEX WORKER.
WHEN SHE STARTED AS AN
18-YEAR-OLD SHE FOUND CLIENTS BY
WALKING THE STREETS AT NIGHT.
IT WAS, SHE SAYS, AS DANGEROUS
AS IT SOUNDS.
>> IF SOMEBODY THROWS YOU IN A
ROOM WITH A BUNCH OF GUYS AND
YOU END UP, YOU KNOW, GETTING
GANG RAPED YOU HAVE A FEELING
THAT DEATH IS IMMINENT.
>> Reporter: THEN OVER THE LAST
DECADE THE INDUSTRY MOVED FROM
THE STREET TO THE SMARTPHONE.
>> I FOUND IT TO BE EXTREMELY
EMPOWERING TO BE ABLE TO GO FROM
BEING PIMPED TO BEING LIKE MY
OWN ESCORT ONLINE, ADVERTISING
ON BACK PAGE AND ABLE TO SCREEN
CLIENTS.
I NEVER HAD ONE INSTANCE OF
VIOLENCE.
>> Reporter: UNTIL A NEW BILL
CHANGED EVERYTHING.
>> EVERYBODY I KNOW RIGHT NOW IS
JUST IN COMPLETE CRISIS.
>> Reporter: THIS SEEMS LIKE THE
ONLY THING THAT BOTH DEMOCRATS
AND REPUBLICANS CAN AGREE ON
THESE DAYS.
>> WE ARE ALL TOGETHER,
POLITICIANS, BOTH REPUBLICAN AND
DEMOCRAT, SIGNING THIS.
>> Reporter: IN APRIL PRESIDENT
TRUMP SIGNED TWO BILLS WITH THE
AIM OF TARGETING SEX TRAFFICKING
ONLINE.
THE LAWS MADE WEBSITES LIBEL FOR
THE ADVERTISEMENTS ON THEIR
SITES AND MANY SITES LIKE
BACKPAGE, THE MOST POPULAR
ESCORTING SITE, WAS SHUT DOWN.
>> BECAUSE OF THE HUNDREDS OF
THOUSAND OF CHILDREN WHO ARE
TRAFFICKED, 70% ARE ORP LINE AND
BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING
TODAY THAT IS ALREADY SHUTDOWN.
87 PERCENT OF THAT IS ALREADY
SHUTDOWN, YOU ARE SAVING LIVES.
>> Reporter: LEMOON KNOWS TOO
WELL WHAT IT MEANS TO BE
TRAFFICKED.
SHE SAID THAT SHE WAS FORCED
INTO SEX WORK AS A TEEN BEFORE
INTERNET TRAFFICKING EVEN
EXISTED.
SHE BELIEVES THAT THE LAW THAT
IS MEANT TO MAKE THE WORLD SAFER
IS MAKING HERS MUCH MORE
DANGEROUS.
>> I HAD LIKE AT LEAST 100
PEOPLE TEXTING OR CALLING ME ON
A DAILY BASIS JUST BASED ON MY
BACKPAGE AD ALONE AND THAT GAVE
ME THE SECURITY TO BE ABLE TO
SAY, LIKE, OKAY, I'M NOT
DESPERATE.
I DON'T -- I'M NOT IN DESPERATE
NEED OF FINDING CLIENTS SO I
DON'T HAVE TO DO DANGEROUS
THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, HAVE
CONDOMLESS SEX FOR MORE MONEY OR
TAKE ON A CLIENT WHO IS MORE
DANGEROUS.
>> Reporter: NOW SHE SAYS THAT
MANY SEX WORKERS ARE BEING
FORCED BACK ON THE STREETS AND
BACK INTO THE HANDS OF PIMPS.
>> I HAVE GOTTEN CONTACTED BY A
PIMP AS WELL WITH PROMISES OF
CLIENTS.
>> Reporter: MANY SEX WORKERS
ACKNOWLEDGE THEY HAVE FEW
POLITICAL FRIENDS IN THIS BATTLE
SO THEY'RE PINNING THEIR HOPES
ON UNLIKELY ALLIES --
>> THE TECH COMPANIES AND ALSO
PEOPLE LIKE THE ACLU AND PEOPLE
IN FAVOUR OF LIKE FREE SPEECH
AND THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND NOT
HAVING THE GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW,
MONITOR PEOPLE AND STUFF.
THEY'RE DEFINITELY OUR ALLIES.
>> Reporter: THE NEW LAWS HAVE
HAD ANOTHER UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCE.
ACCORDING TO TORONTO SEX WORKER
ANNA SANNI NOT ALL SITES HAVE
SHUTTERED.
SOME SERVERS ARE OWNED AND
OPERATED IN COUNTRIES OUTSIDE
THE U.S. LIKE CANADA.
>> I AM NOTICING THAT THERE ARE
MORE CLIENTS COMING FROM THE
U.S.
>> Reporter: BUT SANNI SAYS THAT
EXTRA BUSINESS HAS BEEN MORE
THAN OFFSET BY THE CLOSURE OF
THE BIG U.S. SITES WHERE SHE
SAYS THAT MANY CANADIAN SEX
WORKERS GOT THE MAJORITY OF
THEIR CLIENTS.
>> WE HAVE SEEN AN UPTICK OF
SUICIDES, PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY
STRUGGLING TO SURVIVE AND THEY
LITERALLY HAVE LIKE NO MEANS.
>> LUCKILY I HAVE GROWN UP IN
THE AGE OF THE WEB AND SO I HAVE
NEVER ENGAGED IN A STREET TRADE.
>> Reporter: IN LOS ANGELES
DANNY CRUZ IS AMONG A YOUNGER
GENERATION OF SEX WORKERS WHO
ARE WONDERING WHAT NOW.
THE WORLD OF NEWSPAPER PERSONALS
AND STREET WALKING IS ENTIRELY
FOREIGN AND TERRIFYING.
THOSE WEBSITES OFFERED SOME
SECURITY.
ONLINE BAD DATE LISTS WHERE SEX
WORKERS SHARED INFORMATION ABOUT
WHOM TO AVOID.
MANY OF THOSE ARE NOW GONE TOO.
>> YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE
GOING TO GET IN THE CAR WITH.
THERE'S NO WAY TO REPORT VIOLENT
PEOPLE IN THAT WAY AND THERE'S
NO SCREENING PRACTICES AT ALL.
LIKE, IT'S JUST LUCK OF THE
DRAW.
>> Reporter: IF PROSTITUTION IS
THE WORLD'S OLDEST PROFESSION,
CRUZ SAYS TRYING TO SHUT IT DOWN
IS LAW ENFORCEMENT'S OLDEST
PURSUIT.
SO HE SAYS THAT ALL HE CAN DO
NOW IS WHAT SEX WORKERS HAVE
ALWAYS DONE -- CHANGE AND ADAPT.
>> IT'S GOING TO MOVE SOMEWHERE
AND IF IT GOES FROM THE
SMARTPHONE BACK TO THE STREET
THAT'S WHERE IT WILL GO.
>> Reporter: HE FEARS NOT ALL
AREAS OF THE STREET ARE AS WELL
LIT AS OTHERS.
KIM BRUNHUBER, CBC NEWS, LOS
ANGELES.
>> Ian: IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO
THAT THE CANADIAN SEX WORKERS
WARNED THAT NEW LEGISLATION
MEANT TO KEEP THEM SAFE WOULD,
IN FACT, DO THE OPPOSITE.
THE PREVIOUS CONSERVATIVE
GOVERNMENT PASSED BILL C-36 IN
2014.
IT CHANGED THE RULES AROUND
ADVERTISING SEX WHICH ADVOCATES
CALL "CONTRADICTORY".
IT DOES ALLOW SEX WORKERS TO
PROMOTE THEIR OWN SERVICES BUT
IT MAKES IT A CRIME FOR
PUBLICATIONS, INCLUDING
WEBSITES, TO DO SO.
AND SEX WORKERS SAY THAT THAT
LIMITS THEIR ABILITY TO SCREEN
CLIENTS.
OVERTURNING BILL C-36 WAS A
LIBERAL PRIORITY DURING THE 2015
CAMPAIGN BUT IT'S STILL ON THE
BOOKS.
(*)
>>> YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN GO
DEEPER ON THE STORIES OF THE DAY
EARLIER IN THE DAY BY
SUBSCRIBING TO OUR NEWS LETTER,
CBCNEWS.CA/THENATIONAL.
WE GO INSIDE
(*)
(*)
>> Ian: HERE ARE SOME OF THE
STORIES THAT WE'LL FOLLOW THIS
WEEK ON "THE NATIONAL"...
WESTJET IS FACING A STRIKE BY
PILOTS.
THEY REMAIN IN TALKS WITH THE
COMPANY AND THEY PROMISE TO KEEP
WORKING OVER THIS LONG WEEKEND.
>>> THE SOUTH KOREAN PRESIDENT
MOON JAE-IN IS IN WASHINGTON ON
TUESDAY TO MEET WITH U.S.
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
HE'LL DISCUSS HOW THE SUMMIT
WITH NORTH KOREA CAN STAY ON
TRACK.
PYONGYANG HAS THREATENED TO PULL
OUT OF NEXT MONTH'S HISTORIC
MEETING BETWEEN KIM JONG-un
AND TRUMP.
>>> AND IN IRELAND THEY'RE
GEARING UP FOR FRIDAY'S
REFERENDUM ON ABORTION.
IT WILL BE THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY
IN 35 YEARS TO OVERHAUL THE LAW.
CONSIDERED ONE OF THE WORLD'S
MOST RESTRICTIVE.
VOTERS ARE ASKED IF THEY WISH TO
REPEAL A CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENT ALLOWING FOR A NEAR
TOTAL BAN ON ABORTION.
>>> BEFORE WE GO TONIGHT A
SURPRISING TURN FOR A GROUP OF
ALBERTA MEN OUT ENJOYING THE
LONG WEEKEND.
THEY WERE BOATING ON AN ALBERTA
RIVER NOT FAR FROM GRANDE
PRAIRIE WHEN THEY FOUND
THEMSELVES ON A RESCUE MISSION.
COMING TO THE AID OF A MOOSE
CALF.
AND THEIR STORY IS OUR "MOMENT
OF THE DAY".
>> YOU ALL RIGHT, KIDDO?
(*)
>> WE WERE STARTING TO UNLOAD
OUR CHAIRS AND MY COUSIN RYAN
COULD HEAR SOME MEWING AND WE
COULD TELL THAT IT WAS JUST A
CALF MOOSE AND IT WAS LIKE
ALMOST COMPLETELY SUBMERGED IN
THE MUD.
I PICKED IT UP BASICALLY AND
DRUG IT CLOSER TO THE WATER AND
OUT OF THE MUD AND THEN WE
STARTED WASHING ITS HEAD AND ITS
EYES AND NOSE OFF.
THE MOOSE WAS FULLY M EMP WING
LIKE CONSTANTLY AND WALKING
AROUND AND FOLLOWING US AROUND
BASICALLY.
BUT IT HAD A LOT MORE ENERGY.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE
ELSE WOULD DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT
IF THEY FOUND A BABY MOOSE STUCK
IN THE MUD AND THEY WOULD CLEAN
IT UP AND SEND IT ON ITS WAY I
THINK.
>> Ian: I WISH MY CO-HOSTS WERE
HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
THAT IS "THE NATIONAL" FOR MAY
20th.
GOODNIGHT.
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