coming up on outnumbered the president just arriving in Houston a short time
ago to meet with families of victims of the deadly Santa Fe school shooting we
could hear from him before before that and he could remark on today's big
meeting between Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and top North Korean official
over the summit will it happen and what will Kim jong-un give up for it
comedian Samantha bee used a stunningly vulgar term to describe Ivanka Trump
will TBS Network fire her and whether the reaction would be different if the
target was one of President Obama's daughters or Chelsea Clinton it's a
tough discussion we'll have right on the couch and we will indeed all that plus
our hashtag one lucky guy outnumbered top of the hour and so we take you to a
live picture of Air Force One there in Houston you're looking at the Ellington
field joint Reserve Base where the president is about to depart his plane
there he traveled to Texas to expect to be meeting with relatives of the victims
from the deadly shooting at Santa Fe High School just a couple weeks ago and
the White House is saying that he will personally meet with families and offer
his condolences and support some interesting news that actually took
place onboard this plane while in route to Houston we're told her a pool
producer a pool producer of course as a producer that travels with the president
and then shares the coverage with other affiliates that they were speaking with
the president off-camera mostly off the record on a number of issues but then
there was something interesting that came up that was on the record now you
remember recently the president has pardoned a couple well-named well-known
folks who have been serving time in prison will the pool was called to the
president's office to speak off the record for about 30 minutes and then at
one part he put on the record he is considering pardoning or commuting the
sentence of former Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich and Martha Stewart we don't
know much more we don't know what led to this conversation we don't know if one
of the producers perhaps had heard a rumor that the president was
considering pardoning these two but nonetheless that's what the president
said on the record and here comes President Trump as he departs Air Force
One as he is about to meet and greet and offer condolences to the families of the
victims at the Santa Fe school shooting he'll be meeting Texas governor Greg
Abbott there at the bottom of the stairs along with Senator Ted Cruz and Ken
Paxton the Attorney General of the state of Texas but Wow what news the president
has been on something of a commuting role lately we mentioned earlier he's
considering pardoning dinesh d'souza the community the conservative filmmaker and
and author he recently pardoned the late boxer Jack
Johnson and he's been issuing other pardons Scooter Libby among them the the
pardoning of rod Blagojevich would be the first high-profile Democratic pardon
if it happens it hasn't happened yet but this was an on-the-record conversation
with a pool producer on board Air Force one who says the president is
considering pardoning rod Blagojevich the convicted the the governor of former
governor of Illinois convicted of influence-peddling
and also Martha Stewart who is of course in everyone's living rooms and on their
coffee table she was convicted of insider trading yeah I mean it's a bit
of a surprise to hear that one I'm wondering where it came from now
interestingly enough you know where do these thoughts come from yesterday when
he met with kim kardashian a lot of people were a little surprised by that
taken aback the cause is a good one though I mean you know prison reform and
and she brew she brought up a very positive story about somebody who's
actually in prison who had been convicted on a one-time drug charge some
20 years ago a grandmother and you know there are many of those that are in the
prison system currently whether they are politicians were there you know former
boxers that you know are being pardoned who the president perhaps believes were
improperly imprisoned or should be pardoned and so this does kind of go in
line with his prison reform conversations that he had just yesterday
interestingly enough the same day that Mike Pompeo was here in New York talking
about a top North Korean official on the upcoming summit so the president is just
all over you know tackling several issues but
prison reform being one and then of course here in Santa Fe dealing with the
gun control issue which he is calling it a gun control issue when he talks about
wanting to do whatever is needed to get guns out of the wrong hands what he
means by that we don't exactly know but as you mentioned he'll be meeting with
the governor so I'm sure they'll be talking about that I didn't mention that
he also pardoned Joe Arpaio the well-known former sheriff of Maricopa
County Arizona now running for the Senate seat in Arizona Joe Arpaio
convicted of criminal contempt and the president pardoned him he was one of the
early pardons of the Trump administration there you see the
president once again I believe that's the back of senator Ted Cruz's head
there to the right just behind the military officer and mentioned also
Texas governor Greg Abbott is there along with the Attorney General Ken
Paxton and a number of other Texas political leaders so it's a big day for
the president he always keeps us guessing does he not Julie yeah he sure
certainly does those potential pardons just a couple of seconds ago and I think
both of our mouths drop I was really surprised but you know what I mean you
shouldn't be surprised and this president always has you know
some surprises up his sleeve it keeps us on our toes but it's nonetheless
fascinating it is fun to watch all right well thank you very much for joining us
on this Thursday yeah an out number will continue coverage as we hear from the
president I'm sure later this afternoon as he meets with families of the victims
of the Santa Fe school shooting Fox News Alert for you president Trump has
arrived as you can see he has touched down on the ground in Houston Texas
where he is going to be meeting privately with families of the victims
of the Santa Fe High School shooting you'll remember ten people were killed
in that massacre nearly two weeks ago just yesterday Texas governor Greg
Abbott announced his plan to make Texas schools safer in response to the tragedy
you're looking at the president there took off a short time ago couple hours
ago heading down making his way down to Texas this is originally a trip that was
built around a fundraiser first a luncheon and then another one happening
this evening in Dallas Texas but then they did
to change the agenda and have the president go down and meet with the
victims and the victims the families of the victims of this school shooting he
just touched down Ellington filled his trip right now is just slightly delayed
but the president is expected to meet first thing as he has landed there in
Ellington it was eight students to substitute teachers that were killed
during that shooting in Santa Fe High School back in May 18th he's talking to
the governor of the state Greg Abbott at this moment but this is a big trip for
the president his fifth visit to the state of Texas of his presidency it's
quickly becoming one of the most visited States by this president this is an
important day as he will also be holding a couple private events he will head to
a fundraising luncheon downtown Houston hosted by the National Republican Senate
committee after he meets with those families it's a private event that sold
tickets for $5,000 a person for the luncheon or $25,000 if you want to take
a photo with the president so he'll head to that luncheon and then another
fundraiser will be happening in Dallas Texas this evening the president on the
ground in Houston with a shaky camera and a little fist pump to the crowd and
the president will be off and meeting with those families meanwhile another
Fox News Alert for tea this morning president Trump revealing big news
developments and talks with North Korea as his administration continues moving
towards holding a summit between the President and Kim jong-un just a short
time ago Secretary of State Mike Pompeo wrapping up his meeting with North
Korea's vice chairman kim yeongcheol in new york city this sit-down coming after
they kicked off their discussions at a dinner last night and also just hours
ago President Trump saying he expects to receive a letter from Kim Jong on this
is outnumbered I'm Sandra Smith in here today harris faulkner host of after the
belt on fox business Melissa Francis former deputy spokesperson for the State
Department Fox News analyst and host of Benson and harf Marie harf and joining
us on the couch today is Pete hegh said he salutes you yes and he is out
numbered we salute you sir good to have you on the couch as always I salute
America and one of our originals by the way account one of the original you know
it was first week of the show Wow four years ago I love people
saw okay people didn't see them I think it was me and Tucker yeah oh yeah yeah
Tucker's you should have back yeah okay it's got a little show and you're up
early lucky when we get you guys looks great but it is a big day and a lot
happening so let's get right to this top American and North Korean officials are
working towards getting that potential Summit in Singapore back on track
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in North Korea's kim youngchul meeting again
today after they sat down for dinner last night in new york city
watch what President Trump told reporters about those talks and what
he's expecting to happen next we're doing very well with North Korea our
Secretary of State has had very good meetings he's meeting again today a
letter is going to be delivered to me from Kim Jong Houghton so I look forward
to seeing what's in the letter hopefully we'll have a meeting of the 12th that's
going along very well but I want it to be meaningful it doesn't mean it gets
all done at one meeting maybe you have to have a second or a third and maybe
we'll have none but it's in good hands well the president
says he expects to get that letter tomorrow meanwhile analysts are warning
White House negotiators to be wary as the North Korean regime has historically
shown an unwillingness to give up its nuclear capabilities
yesterday White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said that's exactly what
these talks are all about the conversation is going to be focused on
denuclearization of the peninsula that's what these ongoing conversations taking
place now will be centered on as well as this summit that would take place in
Singapore and we're going to continue as long as that is part of the discussion
we're going to continue to shoot for the June 12th and it's right to do there
meantime Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov meeting with Kim jong-un today
it's just the latest in a string of high-level meetings staged by North
Korea following years of isolation so this has been fascinating to watch Pete
since this this North Korean the highest milkie North Korea next to Kim Jong on
the came to New York this dinner happened last night they
dined an American beef corn and cheese and cheese cheese arrived at the UN
residence to have this very crucial meeting the president seems very
optimistic yeah he does he's got his kind of guy as appointment in Pompeo
he's got a team that North Korea takes seriously look at how they view a John
Bolton he's been he's been willing to walk away once with that letter that
said hey I'm done they ran right back to the table so I think they've set a lot
of the right general parameters but it's it's it's cliche but the devil will
ultimately be in the details and that's what they're trying to hammer out right
now and they're probably further apart than anyone publicly realizes because
Kim jong-un knows those nukes are would have kept him safe all these years give
them all up do I do I end up in a ditch like Qaddafi give too many but US isn't
gonna he's not gonna president Trump can't go for a deal that isn't fully
verifiable by the United States of America and gets rid of their actual
nuclear capability so if this is just June 12th will just be the beginning of
this part Pete on that point of securing his future and that's why he had the
nukes I know we're getting way ahead of ourselves but I wonder at what point
does the conversation turn to okay we are we're gonna help him
stay in power we're going to keep his regime in place in exchange for that say
we do get rid of the nukes next criticism is I mean he's you know right
in labor camps and I know when you ask the question now experts say it's really
about preventing nuclear annihilation for now is more important okay I see
that but down the road that's gonna be the next conversation that's a great
point and it's part of the discussion is how do you measure this as successes
right the meeting actually takes place they denuclearize but then obviously
there's a long road ahead right yes and Peter's right that June 12th or whenever
the summit happens is the beginning it's not the standard should not be that
everything's done on June 12th and we all sign and go home and what was
interesting is that President Trump has set a high bar for himself in pulling
out of the nuclear deal in saying that didn't go far enough and he deal with
North Korea I would argue now has to go farther it doesn't if he didn't think
that went far enough and he opened the door I think it was last week all the
dates are sort of mixed up in my head at this point but he president Trump opened
the door to denuclearization being not all at once but more of a phased process
which most experts argue is probably what's going to have to happen as part
of a deal so he opened the door a little bit which I thought was very interesting
I think the North Koreans probably saw that as a sign that he may not just have
maximalist positions they may be willing to come to the table but as you said the
proof is in the pudding or Devils in the details
and not just a little bit we're talking 15 years of phasing in or phasing yeah
right nuclear capabilities and and that also puts on the table if you will and
and a check of checks and balances of how well North Korea is doing along the
way to because the promise isn't just to keep Kim jong-un alive you're gonna be
rich South and North Korea you guys are gonna
have economies that are booming well that also cannot happen overnight right
now it slows the timetable down and allows for relationships to be build
we hope I just don't know how we do hope but this guy's so paranoid that he's
worried Kim jong-un if he goes to Singapore there might be a coup all
these qualms dictators are paranoid he's especially parents especially common
when you're poisoning and killing your family members doing what he does you
think he would trust us to keep our guarantee no and he doesn't even trust
his own people he doesn't and if as you see they unfold on their own even
with guarantees and what what do you think the Trump administration P is
willing to give in return because negotiations are not just about one side
selenium securing him in displacement I think that won't be why I don't think
that will be enough for a nuclear deal what do you think in terms of sanctions
relief in terms of economic benefits what is this how it look like I think I
think you've got it from the president's perspective you've got to get the
demonization don't get the news out before any of the sanction really
happens right I mean you can't you you've got to see a verifiable this is
mistrust and verify how do we buy that you currently then we did it in Iran the
Internet community has to be know just that just the checking of what's on the
ground yeah you have to be able to inspect I mean for those Anytime
Anywhere inspections that we were promised that were a complete lie we're
gonna have to have actually it's entirely true unless you're gonna have
to have an inspection of some type by somebody who can verify some way he's
been inspecting every single day every single nuclear capability for themselves
on the existing nuclear facilities in Iran the IAEA is in there every single
day with cameras and with inspectors or minimum we have to have though out of
the Murray let me ask you this haven't worked in the Obama State Department now
you yeah look at waiting by the way that's not anytime anywhere you're
talking about existing sites that we know about we were told anytime anywhere
any other site is no accident not true entirely not true
sorry a question about what's coming up Santori what's the move on and my face
is blue is very under politic the politics of this about the president's
you have to think he's not getting enough credit from the left and from the
media for getting us to this point how does the president getting us to this
point compared to say Obama's presidency well I mean Obama's presidency also got
a country like Iran to the table by ratcheting up sanctions on Iran and in
conjunction with the international community so I think President Trump
gets credit for bringing North Korea to the table with his sanctions regime but
you don't get credit for a nuclear deal that you haven't done yet so what will
matter now is what happens that you also don't get credit for a bad
clear deal when it took pallets of cash as well to the worst regime in the world
so they've got to avoid all in my opinion the pitfalls of the Iran deal
it's got to be up front you were not giving a money upfront
they're making the concessions we're not and there has to be guys with the US
flag on their on their shoulder inspecting these we got to have our own
verification it's been the international community but without our guys being
able to check as melissa has has pointed out anytime anyplace
only with delays if especially if we're gonna be the ones making guarantor
guarantees we're not on the ground we're also the military that that is currently
keeping them at bay we've been on that dmz for seventy years because we were
fighting the Communists there and we stayed there so we have a vested
interest in if we're gonna end that conflict doing it on our terms
be it by the way we're tracking the movements of the presidents down in
Texas he could speak to reporters he could make further comments on the
situation with North Korea we will take those if we get them meanwhile the White
House making no bones about it Sarah Sanders saying no one is defending
Roseanne's tweet but asking where is ABC's apology to the President and
others for other attacks and misinformation and when it comes to
comedian controversies Samantha be using a vile misogynistic term to describe
Ivanka Trump the president's daughter will she have to apologize
will she be fired we'll debate whether a double standard is at play here
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