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>> Adrienne: ON THIS SUNDAY
NIGHT, NEGOTIATIONS MAY BE ON
PAUSE BUT THAT HASN'T STOPPED
TRUMP'S TRADE THREATS.
CAN THE PRESIDENT REALLY FOLLOW
THROUGH ON ALL OF THAT TOUGH
TALK?
AND HOW WILL CANADA RESPOND?
>>> AND THE COST OF COMING
FORWARD.
A WHISTLEBLOWER'S EMOTIONAL
STORY ABOUT JUST WHAT HAPPENS
AFTER YOU GO PUBLIC.
>>> PLUS THE NATIONAL SUMMER
PASTTIME THAT IS DRIVING
BEACH-GOERS CRAZY.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
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>>> NAFTA TALKS ARE ON HOLD FOR
THIS LONG WEEKEND BUT DONALD
TRUMP'S TWITTER ACCOUNT IS NOT.
THE PRESIDENT ONCE AGAIN
SLAMMING CANADA AND THREATENING
TO JUST PULL OUT OF THE DEAL.
LYNDSAY DUNCOMBE BRINGS US THE
LATEST.
>> Reporter: FROM HIS GOLF
COURSE DONALD TRUMP TOOK A SWING
AT CANADA, TWEETING THREATS TO
LEAVE NAFTA ALL TOGETHER.
COMPLAINING THAT THE U.S. HAS
ENDURED DECADES OF ABUSE.
THE CANADIAN RESPONSE?
>> OUR PHILOSOPHY IS TO KEEP
CALM AND CARRY ON.
THERE IS A SENSE THAT WE CAN GET
IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE BUT
THERE'S A CERTAIN DEGREE OF
IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE BUT
THERE'S A CERTAIN DEGREE OF
VOLATILITY AMONGST CERTAIN OF
THE KEY PLAYERS.
>> Reporter: BY KEY PLAYERS HE
MEANS THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF.
TRUMP CAMPAIGNED ON SCRAPPING
NAFTA AND HE DOESN'T SEEM THE
TYPE TO ACCEPT A REASONABLE
COMPROMISE.
>> IN DONALD TRUMP'S MIND,
CANADA NEEDS TO SURRENDER.
>> Reporter: BUT THE FAILURE
TO REACH A DEAL BY THE FRIDAY
DEADLINE EXPOSES THE REALITY
THAT HE CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT HE
WANTS.
CONGRESS HAS THE FINAL SAY ON
TRADE AND LAWMAKERS FROM BOTH
PARTIES WERE QUICK TO SAY THEY
WON'T VOTE FOR A DEAL WITHOUT
CANADA.
THERE'S ALSO SUPPORT FOR CANADA
FROM BUSINESS LEADERS, FARMERS
AND UNIONS.
>> OUR ECONOMIES ARE INTEGRATED.
THE THREE COUNTRIES IN NORTH
AMERICA THE ECONOMY IS PRETTY
INTEGRATED.
AND IT'S PRETTY HARD TO SEE HOW
THAT WOULD WORK WITHOUT HAVING
CANADA IN THE DEAL.
>> Reporter: AS FOR TRUMP'S
THREAT TO PULL OUT OF THE DEAL
ENTIRELY, HE CAN'T DO THAT
QUICKLY OR EASILY EITHER.
CONGRESS NEEDS SIX MONTHS
NOTICE.
AND MANY WORRY THAT IF TRUMP
DOES IMPOSE TARIFFS ON CANADIAN
VEHICLES AS HE HAS THREATENED
THE INTEGRATED ECONOMY MEANS
AMERICAN WORKERS WOULD LOSE
THEIR JOBS.
>> I THINK THAT THE PRESIDENT
HAS THIS WRONG AND HE'S PLAYING
WITH FIRE.
>> Reporter: NEITHER SIDE IS
TALKING ABOUT DETAILS OF THE
NEGOTIATIONS, BUT LIKELY
STICKING
POINTS INCLUDE ACCESS TO THE
DAIRY MARKET AND A DISPUTE
RESOLUTION MECHANISM.
TALKS RESUME HERE IN WASHINGTON
ON WEDNESDAY.
>> Adrienne: THE CBC'S LYNDSAY
DUNCOMBE IN WASHINGTON TONIGHT.
AS SHE TOLD US THERE'S NO WAY TO
KNOW HOW THIS WILL CONCLUDE BUT
WHAT IF WORSE CAME TO WORSE AND
CANADA WAS LEFT OUT OF NAFTA?
WELL, THERE MIGHT BE A SAFETY
NET.
SOME EXPERTS THINK THAT THE OLD
CANADA-U.S. TRADE AGREEMENT
WOULD COME BACK INTO FORCE.
OTHERS SAY THAT'S NOT A SURE
THING.
IT MIGHT EVEN REQUIRE A
PRESIDENTIAL ORDER.
SO WHAT MIGHT A POST-NAFTA WORLD
LOOK LIKE?
WELL, REPORTS FROM R.B.C. SAY
THAT SOME INDUSTRIES HAVE SO
MUCH CROSS-BORDER INTEGRATION
THEY COULDN'T UNRAVEL IT
QUICKLY.
TARIFF HIKES WOULD LIKELY HIT
CORPORATE PROFITS AND CONSUMER
PRICES SOONER THAN WORKERS.
ACCORDING TO MOODY'S, INVESTORS
SERVICES, NEW BRUNSWICK AND
ONTARIO COULD BE
HARDEST HIT BASED ON HOW MUCH OF
THEIR ECONOMIES DEPEND ON
EXPORTS TO THE U.S.
B.C. IS CONSIDERED THE SAFEST.
>>> HERE'S WHAT ELSE WE'RE
WORKING ON TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL"...
>>> ANOTHER DEADLY SHOOTING IN
TORONTO AFTER A VIOLENT WEEKEND
IN THE G.T.A.
>>> PLUS, RELIEF IN CHURCHILL,
MANITOBA, WHERE THE MISERY OF
LIFE IS CUT OFF BY A BROKEN RAIL
LINK WHICH COULD SOON COME TO AN
END.
>>> FIRST, THE STEEP PRICE OF
SPEAKING OUT IN CANADA.
AN E.I. FRAUD INVESTIGATOR LEFT
JOBLESS, BANKRUPT AND LOOKING
FOR HELP AFTER SHE BLEW THE
WHISTLE ON HER EMPLOYER.
AS "GO PUBLIC'S" ERICA JOHNSON
FOUND OUT, WHISTLEBLOWING CAN BE
A DICEY BUSINESS IN THIS
COUNTRY.
>> Reporter: AND ANOTHER
ARTICLE ABOUT WHEN YOU SPOKE OUT
OUT?
>> YES.
>> Reporter: IT WAS BIG NEWS
WHEN SYLVIE THERRIEN SPOKE OUT.
SHE USED TO HOLD A $60,000 A
YEAR JOB, INVESTIGATING
FRAUDULENT E.I. CLAIMS.
>> THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE, IT
WAS REALLY INTENSE.
>> Reporter: BUT WHEN THE
CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT TOLD
INVESTIGATORS TO EACH SAVE HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR BY
DISQUALIFYING PEOPLE FROM
BENEFITS, SHE LEAKED THE STORY
TO THE MEDIA.
>> THEY'RE EACH REQUIRED TO FIND
HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN FRAUD.
IT PRESUMES THAT THERE'S
WIDESPREAD
FRAUD AND THEY'RE ALL A BUNCH OF
CHEATERS AND CRIMINALS.
>> Reporter: HE CALLED THEM
TARGETS.
CONTROVERSY MADE FOR GOOD
SATIRE.
>> EXCUSE ME SIR.
I'M WITH SERVICE CANADA, P.E.I.,
P.I.s...
[laughter]
>> Reporter: BUT IT WAS NO
LAUGHING MATTER FOR THERRIEN.
A FEW MONTHS LATER SHE WAS
FIRED.
SHE SPENT THE PAST FIVE YEARS
TRYING TO GET HER JOB BACK.
SHE'S UNEMPLOYED AND BANKRUPT.
>> IT'S FINANCIALLY DIFFICULT
BUT IT'S EMOTIONALLY DIFFICULT.
>> Reporter: THERRIEN
SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT TO THE
OFFICE OF THE INTEGRITY
COMMISSIONER, CREATED
11 YEARS AGO TO INVESTIGATE
WRONGDOING IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR
AND TO PROTECT WHISTLEBLOWERS.
THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T LOOK AT
HER
CASE WHILE THE LABOUR BOARD
INVESTIGATED.
A FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL RULED
THAT THE FEDERAL COMMISSIONER
COULD INVESTIGATE, BUT IT'S
CHOSEN NOT TO.
>> THE PROCESS IS LIKE, YOU
KNOW, IT'S TORTUROUS.
>> MY NAME IS JOE FRIDAY AND,
YES, IT'S MY REAL NAME.
>> Reporter: THE INTEGRITY
COMMISSIONER
DECLINED A REQUEST TO DISCUSS
WHY
THERRIEN'S CASE AND DOZENS AND
DOZENS OF OTHERS ARE TAKING
YEARS TO BE ADDRESSED.
THIS WHISTLEBLOWER ADVOCATE SAYS
THAT THE SYSTEM TO PROTECT
PEOPLE WHO SPEAK OUT IS CLEARLY
NOT WORKING.
>> NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN
PROTECTED THROUGH THIS AND
THERE'S NO CHANGES TO THE LAW
AND NO ATTEMPT TO RECTIFY THIS.
THESE ARE GOOD, HONEST PEOPLE
DOING THE RIGHT THING TO PROTECT
US, TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC, AND
THEY'VE LOST EVERYTHING.
>> Adrienne: ERICA IS JOINING
US NOW FROM VANCOUVER.
SO, ERICA, WE HEARD A
WHISTLEBLOWER ADVOCATE SAID THAT
THE SYSTEM DESIGNED TO PROTECT
PEOPLE HASN'T DONE THAT AT ALL.
SO HOW DO WE QUANTIFY THAT
FAILURE?
>> Reporter: WELL, IT'S NOT
REALLY VERY GOOD NEWS FOR PUBLIC
SERVANTS THAT ARE HOPING FOR
PROTECTION IF THEY SPEAK OUT.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE STATS,
SINCE THE OFFICE OF THE
INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER WAS
CREATED 11 YEARS AGO, 306 PUBLIC
SERVANTS WHO HAVE SUFFERED
REPRISALS HAVE FILED COMPLAINTS.
OF THOSE 306, ONLY EIGHT PEOPLE
HAVE MADE IT TO THE TRIBUNAL
STAGE AND OF THOSE ONLY ONE HAS
RECEIVED A DECISION.
AND THAT DECISION WAS NOT IN HER
FAVOUR.
>> Adrienne: OKAY, SO THERE
YOU GO, THERE'S THE CHILL EFFECT
ON ANYONE CONTEMPLATING BLOWING
THE WHISTLE.
WHEN IT COMES TO HER ORIGINAL
OBJECTIVE OF E.I. THOUGH, WHAT'S
CHANGED INSIDE OF THAT SYSTEM?
>> Reporter: WELL, RIGHT,
SYLVIE THERRIEN FELT THAT IT
WASN'T RIGHT TO HAVE A TARGET OR
A
QUOTA TO DISQUALIFY PEOPLE FROM
E.I. BENEFITS TO SIMPLY SAVE
MONEY FOR THE GOVERNMENT.
WE HAVE CONTACTED THE NOW
LIBERAL GOVERNMENT AND ASKED IF
THAT DIRECTIVE STILL EXISTS.
THEY SAY THERE'S NO LONGER
QUOTAS OR TARGETS FOR
INDIVIDUAL
FRAUD INVESTIGATORS.
>> Adrienne: SOME CHANGE.
LISTEN, THANK YOU FOR THIS,
ERICA.
>> Reporter: GOOD TO TALK TO
YOU.
>> Adrienne: THE MAN THAT YOU
SAW IN ERICA'S PIECE, DAVID
HUTTON, WHO IS A LONG-TIME
ADVOCATE FOR WHISTLEBLOWER
PROTECTION SAYS THAT
INTERNATIONALLY CANADA HAS A
REPUTATION AS BEING THE TITANIC
OF WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION.
IN OTHER WORDS, DISASTROUS.
THERE'S NO REAL PROTECTION AT
ALL.
CANADA FALLS BEHIND THE U.S.,
THE E.U. AND AUSTRALIA IN HOW IT
SHIELDS THOSE WHO ARE BRAVE
ENOUGH TO BLOW THE WHISTLE ON
SCANDALS AND CORRUPTION AND
WRONGDOING BY THE POWERFUL.
SO IN CANADA THERE IS A CRIMINAL
CODE PROVISION, 425.1.
IT MAKES IT AN OFFENSE FOR AN
EMPLOYER TO THREATEN OR TO TAKE
ACTION AGAINST AN EMPLOYEE TO
PUNISH THEM OR TO STEER THEM
AWAY FROM TALKING TO LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
BUT HERE'S THE KICKER -- THE LAW
DOES NOT APPLY TO EMPLOYEES WHO
REPORT WRONGDOING TO THE MEDIA.
THERE WAS A PARLIAMENTARY
COMMITTEE HEARING IN JUNE 2017
THAT LED TO A RAFT OF
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES BUT
NONE OF THEM WAS ACCEPTED.
NOW THERE'S A LETTER WRITING
CAMPAIGN UNDERWAY FROM DEMOCRACY
WATCH TO PUSH FOR PROTECTION FOR
ALL WHISTLEBLOWERS, PUBLIC OR
PRIVATE SECTOR, NO MATTER WHO
THEY'RE REPORTING THE WRONGDOING
TO.
>>> LET'S GET YOU UP TO SPEED ON
THE OTHER DEVELOPING STORIES
THAT WE'RE WATCHING TONIGHT.
STARTING WITH A HUGE FIRE IN
BRAZIL THAT BROKE OUT LATE THIS
EVENING.
HAVE A LOOK AT THAT.
THIS IS THE SCENE OF THE
NATIONAL MUSEUM OF BRAZIL IN
RIO de JANEIRO.
IT'S THE OLDEST SCIENCE
INSTITUTION IN THE COUNTRY.
THE FIRE BROKE OUT AFTER THE
MUSEUM CLOSED FOR THE DAY.
THIS MUSEUM IS ABOUT 1200 YEARS
OLD AND IT'S HOME TO THOUSANDS
OF HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL
ARTIFACTS, INCLUDING DINOSAUR
BONES.
IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT SPARKED THE
BLAZE.
>>> AND THE DISCOVERY OF A YOUNG
BOY'S BODY TODAY ON A SAS BEACH.
THAT'S HIS FAMILY WARNING OTHERS
ABOUT WATER SAFETY.
7-YEAR-OLD GREAGAN GELDENHUYS
WAS LAST SEEN ON AUGUST 24th.
HIS MOTHER'S BODY WAS FOUND THE
NEXT DAY JUST DOWN THE LAKE FROM
WHERE YOUNG GREAGAN'S BODY WAS
FOUND TODAY.
POLICE AREN'T SAYING WHAT
HAPPENED TO THE PLAY BUT THEY
DON'T SUSPECT FOUL PLAY.
>> SCARY.
IT'S SO CLOSE TO HOME.
I MEAN, IT'S GETTING TO THE
POINT YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE
YOU'RE SAFE ANYMORE IN THIS
CITY.
>> Adrienne: A FATAL SHOOTING
HAPPENED IN A DOWNTOWN AREA NEAR
CANADA'S BIGGEST FAIRGROUNDS,
THE C.N.
RENÉE FILIPPONE WATCHES
DEVELOPING STORIES FOR US SUNDAY
ON "THE NATIONAL."
RENEE, THERE'S BEEN A STRING OF
THESE DEADLY SHOOTINGS IN
TORONTO THIS SUMMER.
WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENED TONIGHT?
>> Reporter: WELL, ADRIENNE,
THERE ARE MULTIPLE CRIME SCENES
ACROSS THE CITY TONIGHT.
THE LATEST IS AT CORONATION PARK
IN THE HEART OF TORONTO, NEAR
THE LAKEFRONT.
A 30-YEAR-OLD MAN WAS KILLED,
FOUR PEOPLE WERE SEEN RUNNING
AWAY FROM THE AREA.
AND POLICE SAY THAT THE SHOOTING
HAPPENED INSIDE OF THE PARK NEAR
THE BASEBALL DIAMOND.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN A DEADLY LONG
WEEKEND IN THE TORONTO AREA.
SATURDAY NIGHT THERE WERE TWO
SEPARATE SHOOTINGS IN BRAMPTON
AND TWO MEN WERE KILLED AND A
WOMAN WAS INJURED AND POLICE
BELIEVE THAT THE TWO ATTACKS ARE
RELATED AND TARGETED.
AND THEN THIS MORNING IN
SCARBOROUGH IN EAST TORONTO,
A MAN WAS KILLED IN A DOUBLE
SHOOTING.
IT HAPPENED IN A GARAGE.
NEIGHBOURS SAY THEY HEARD SHOTS
WHEN WHEN POLICE ARRIVED ON
THE SCENE TWO MEN WERE ON THE
GROUND WITH GUNSHOT WOUNDS.
A MAN NAMED SHAMAR SAYS HE KNEW
THE VICTIMS...
>> THIS SHOOTING COULD HAPPEN TO
ANYBODY, WE'RE IN THE HOOD.
THIS HAPPENS ON A DAILY BASIS.
THIS IS WHAT WE GREW UP TO LIVE
IN.
WE ALREADY UNDERSTAND THIS.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE DO
DROP OUT AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT
PEOPLE DO RETALIATE.
SO WHAT ELSE DO YOU REALLY THINK
THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?
>> Reporter: THERE HAVE NOW
BEEN 73 HOMICIDES IN
THE CITY THIS YEAR.
ALREADY MORE THAN LAST YEAR AS A
WHOLE.
ALL OF THIS IS PUTTING THE SPOT
LIGHT ON GUN VIOLENCE AND JUST
HOW TO TACKLE IT.
THE CITY HAS CALLED FOR A BAN ON
HANDGUNS, SOMETHING
THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS
IT WILL LOOK INTO.
ADRIENNE?
>> Adrienne: RENEE, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
>> Reporter: YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> Adrienne: SO IF YOU ARE IN
VANCOUVER OFFERING A RENTAL ON
AIRBNB YOU NOW HAVE TO HAVE A
LICENCE.
AS BRIAR STEWART EXPLAINS THIS
IS PART OF THE CITY'S PLAN TO
DEAL WITH A COMMON CRISIS OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
>> Reporter: MISS RODRIGUEZ
HAS BEEN
CONCERNED ABOUT SHORT-TERM
RENTALS FOR YEARS.
>> THERE'S MOUNT PLEASANT...
>> Reporter: IT BEGAN AFTER
SHE SAW UNITS IN HER
THREE-STOREY APARTMENT BUILDING
ON AIRBNB.
>> OFTEN WHEN A CONVERSATION
ABOUT
AIRBNB AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING
COMES UP IT'S THE SINGLE FAMILY
HOMES OR IT'S THE GLASS TOWERS.
THERE'S A LOT OF BUILDINGS LIKE
THIS BEING AFFECTED.
>> Reporter: WHICH IS WHY SHE
WAS INITIALLY HOPEFUL WHEN THE
CITY OF
VANCOUVER ROLLED OUT SHORT-TERM
RENTAL REGULATIONS IN THE
SPRING.
>> SO THE CITY HAS LAUNCHED A
NEW SHORT-TERM RENTAL
PROGRAMME...
>> Reporter: UNDER THE BY-LAW
PEOPLE CAN ONLY RENT OUT THE
PLACE IF IT'S THEIR PRIMARY
RESIDENCE.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BUSINESS
LICENCE.
PEOPLE HAD TO THE END OF AUGUST
TO APPLY FOR ONE.
AND CITY OFFICIALS SAY THAT
THERE'S 10 PLATFORMS THAT
ADVERTISE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN
VANCOUVER BUT THE VAST MAJORITY
ARE ON AIRBNB.
NOW THAT THE NEW REGULATIONS ARE
IN EFFECT, CITY STAFF ARE GOING
THROUGH THE LISTINGS LOOKING FOR
THOSE WHO AREN'T COMPLYING WITH
THE NEW RULES.
THEY'RE ALSO GETTING HELP FROM
AIRBNB.
THE COMPANY IS SHARING ITS DATA.
IN AN ONLINE POST AIRBNB SAID IT
DEACTIVATED NEARLY 2,500
LISTINGS AFTER THE RULES CAME
INTO EFFECT.
BUT MOST OF THOSE LISTINGS
WEREN'T AT ALL THAT ACTIVE AND
HADN'T
BEEN BOOKED IN THE LAST 12
MONTHS.
THERE'S STILL NEARLY 4,800
LISTINGS ONLINE.
>> I WAS CURIOUS MYSELF AND I
THOUGHT THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC
MIGHT BE TOO.
>> Reporter: HE'S BEEN
ANALYSING THE AIRBNB LISTINGS
AND HE SAYS
THAT EVEN SOME OF THOSE WHO
APPEAR TO BE COMPLYING WITH THE
RULES AREN'T.
>> AMONG THE PEOPLE THAT DID USE
A VALID LICENCE NUMBER, THERE
WAS ABUSE OF HOW THAT IS TO BE
USED.
SO PEOPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, USED THE
SAME LICENCE FOR MULTIPLE
LISTINGS.
>> Reporter: HE'S NOTICED THAT
A SLEW OF AIRBNB HOSTS HAVE
RECENTLY ALTERED THEIR LISTINGS.
THEY ONLY RENT
FOR A MINIMUM OF 30 DAYS WHICH
MEANS THAT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL
RULES DON'T APPLY.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF GAPS, TO PUT
IT KINDLY.
>> Reporter: RODRIGUEZ SAYS
THAT ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO BE A
PRIORITY BUT AT LEAST SHE'S GLAD
THAT MORE PEOPLE ARE NOW TAKING
A CLOSER LOOK AT SHORT-TERM
RENTALS AND
HOW THEY AFFECT AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
BRIAR STEWART, CBC NEWS,
VANCOUVER.
>> Adrienne: IT'S POSSIBLE
THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL
BE GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS.
AIRBNB TOLD THE HOUSE OF COMMONS
FINANCE COMMITTEE LAST MONTH
THAT IT WANTS TO BE REGULATED.
BRITISH COLUMBIA, QUÉBEC AND A
HANDFUL OF INDIVIDUAL CITIES,
INCLUDING OTTAWA, ALREADY HAVE
RULES IN PLACE AS WELL AS
AGREEMENTS TO GET TAX REVENUE
FROM AIRBNB PROVIDERS.
IT SEEMS THAT'S PAYING OFF.
QUÉBEC HAS ALREADY NETTED ABOUT
$2.8 MILLION IN THE FIRST SIX
MONTHS OF ITS DEAL WITH AIRBNB.
>>> SO NOW TO A DIFFICULT
ANNIVERSARY FOR A TINY COMMUNITY
IN NOVA SCOTIA.
20 YEARS AGO SWISSAIR FLIGHT 111
CRASHED INTO THE WATERS OFF OF
PEGGYS COVE, KILLING ALL 229
PASSENGERS ONBOARD.
>> YOU ALWAYS CARRY IT IN THE
HEART.
YOU JUST TRY TO MOVE ON AND LIVE
WITH IT, LIVE WITH THE FACT THAT
IT HAPPENED.
AND SHE'S NOT COMING BACK.
>> Adrienne: RELATIVES OF THE
VICTIMS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS
GATHERED AT A MEMORIAL SERVICE
IN BAYSWATER, NOVA SCOTIA.
IT WAS A TRIBUTE, OF COURSE, TO
THE
LIVES LOST BUT ALSO AN
OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE
CONTRIBUTIONS OF THOSE WHO
HELPED RECOVER BODIES AND
DEBRIS.
MANY OF WHOM ARE FOREVER CHANGED
BY WHAT THEY SAW TWO DECADES
AGO.
ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO JUST
JUMPED IN TO HELP IS DAVID
ZWICKER.
HE WORKED WITH THE CITY OF
HALIFAX AT THE TIME AND HE SPENT
THE
NEXT 76 DAYS ASSISTING WITH THE
RECOVERY PROCESS ON THE
GOVERNMENT WHARF.
AND TONIGHT HE'S OUR WITNESS...
>> THE BOATS WERE COMING IN AND
WE WERE
PACKING THE STUFF INTO BODY BAGS
AND PUTTING IT IN THE
TRACTOR-TRAILER COOLERS.
IT KIND OF GREW ON ME RIGHT FAST
AND
I KNOW OTHERS AS WELL BECAUSE
THE NEXT DAY IT WAS LIKE IT WAS
ALL GONE UNTIL EVERYTHING WAS
OVER.
YOU KNOW, WE JUST GOT IN AND DID
WHAT WE HAD TO DO FOR THE
COMMUNITY AND FOR THOSE PEOPLE.
IT WAS A TERRIBLE DISASTER.
AT THE TIME MEETING THE PEOPLE,
I WENT TO SUPPER IN HALIFAX WITH
THEM AND WE WENT TO THE
CONVENTION CENTRE.
AND WE HAD A BIG DO WITH THEM.
EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ONLY THREE OR
FOUR DAYS, YOU REALLY GOT TO
KNOW THEM.
SOME DAYS WERE ROUGH, ROUGH,
ROUGH.
THE RCMP WANTED ME TO GO FOR A
LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, I GUESS
IT WAS CALLED AT THE TIME A
CLASS AND SUCH.
BUT I DID GO FOR A WHILE BUT I
COULD HAVE TAKEN MORE.
THERE'S NOT A DAY THAT GOES BY
THAT I DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.
AND I DRIVE TO PEGGYS COVE QUITE
OFTEN AND SIT DOWN THERE.
THEY SAY AS TIME GOES ON IT GETS
BETTER.
I GUESS THAT IT DOES.
I GUESS IT DOES.
THERE'S STILL DAYS WHEN I'M
TALKING TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE THAT
I COULD WEEP A LITTLE.
YEAH.
>> Adrienne: SO DAVID ZWICKER
WAS ONE OF ABOUT 2,800 PEOPLE
WHO JOINED THE RECOVERY EFFORT
THEN.
THERE ARE SURELY OTHERS WHO
STILL CARRY THAT SAME BURDEN.
>>> STILL AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL,"
BATTLING SHRINKING POPULATIONS
WITH SMALL COMMUNITY CHARM.
WE LOOK AT THE PROVINCIAL
PROGRAMME ATTRACTING NEWCOMERS
BY PROVIDING THE PERSONAL TOUCH.
>>> PLUS, WHY THE INTERNET IS
RALLYING FOR A ROBOT STRANDED ON
MARS.
THE STORY BEHIND THE CALL TO
WAKE UP, OPPY.
>>> IT'S A GAME FOR SOME AND A
WHOLE LIFESTYLE FOR OTHERS.
DEREK STOFFEL SHOWS US THE GAME
THAT IS MAKING WAVES ON THE
BEACHES OF ISRAEL IN THIS WEEK'S
"DISPATCH."
>> WE COULD SAY THAT IT'S LIKE
TENNIS BUT WE PLAY IT WITH THIS
AND THE BALL IS SOMETHING LIKE
THAT.
AND WE HAVE TO GET THE BALL FROM
ONE TO THE OTHER ONE.
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>> Adrienne: IT'S A SMALL
STRETCH OF RAIL BUT IT'S MADE
LIFE HUGELY DIFFICULT IN
CHURCHILL, MANITOBA.
THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ISOLATED,
CUT OFF BY LAND SINCE THE FLOODS
DAMAGED THE LINE SOME 16 MONTHS
AGO.
BUT AS ERIN BROHMAN TELLS US,
THINGS ARE STARTING TO LOOK UP.
>> Reporter: HOPE HANGS OVER
THE
HORIZON IN CANADA'S NORTH, HOPE
THAT THE TRAINS WILL RETURN TO
THE HUDSON RAIL LINE.
>> STILL I WANT TO CRY, I STILL
DO.
I PROBABLY WILL WHEN I SEE THAT
TRAIN COMING OUT OF THE BUSH.
>> Reporter: ALMOST A YEAR AND
A HALF AGO FLOODING WASHED OUT
SECTIONS OF THE TRACK, CUTTING
OFF THE TOWN OF CHURCHILL AND
OTHER COMMUNITIES ALONG THE WAY.
IT'S REMAINED UNUSABLE UNTIL
NOW.
NOW A PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP
WHICH INCLUDES FIRST NATIONS HAS
BOUGHT THE RAIL LINE AND THE
PORT.
IT'S NORTH AMERICA'S ONLY RAIL
LINK TO AN ARCTIC PORT AND THERE
ARE PLANS TO EXPORT GOODS,
BUT MOSTLY PEOPLE HERE ARE
LOOKING FORWARD TO A LOWER COST
OF LIVING WITHOUT RELYING ON
EXPENSIVE AIR SHIPMENTS OF FOOD,
FUEL AND SERVICES.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE IS
GOING TO TAKE THE TRAIN FOR
GRANTED ANYMORE.
>> Reporter: DAVE DALEY RUNS A
DOG SLEDDING COMPANY.
HE'S READY FOR THE RETURN OF THE
TOURISTS WHO COME TO SEE THE
WHALES AND THE BEARS.
>> THE JOBS WILL COME BACK ONCE
THE PORT IS REOPENED AND PEOPLE
WILL BE WORKING AGAIN.
IT WILL DO HUGE THINGS FOR OUR
COMMUNITY.
>> Reporter: PATRICIA IS
VISITING WINNIPEG FROM
CHURCHILL.
SHE SAYS THAT THE MORALE IN TOWN
IS SOARING ONCE MORE.
>> IT WAS LIKE A FEELING OF
DROWNING AND NOT BEING ABLE TO
COME UP FOR AIR.
NOW THAT THE DEAL WAS SIGNED WE
CAN ALL BREATHE AGAIN.
>> Reporter: REPAIRS TO THE
TRACK START THIS WEEK.
>> I'M SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO
PARTY IN CHURCHILL SOON.
THIS TIME IT WILL BE THE BIGGEST
PARTY POSSIBLE I THINK.
>> Reporter: BUT FIRST RELIEF
THAT THE WAIT IS OVER.
ERIN BROHMAN, CBC NEWS,
WINNIPEG.
>> Adrienne: NOW CHURCHILL IS
PRETTY FAR NORTH AND PRICES WERE
SKY HIGH BEFORE THE LAND LINK
WAS BROKEN.
SO NOW?
WELL, HOW ABOUT $7 FOR A LOAF OF
BREAD.
$8 FOR A HEAD OF BROCCOLI.
IT'S NOT JUST FOOD.
THIS SUMMER THE PRICE OF GAS HIT
$2.54 A LITRE.
THE TOWN SAYS THAT IS THE
HIGHEST PRICE IN NORTH AMERICA.
SO FILLING UP THIS F-150 WOULD
SET YOU BACK OVER $200.
>>> MOVING SOUTH TO ANOTHER
SMALL COMMUNITY IN THAT
PROVINCE, FOR 20 YEARS MANITOBA
HAS BEEN MATCHING IMMIGRANT
WORKERS WITH JOB OPENINGS IN
RURAL AREAS.
OTHER PROVINCES HAVE SINCE
ADOPTED THIS NOMINEE PROGRAMME.
BUT THEIR WORKERS TEND TO JUST
MOVE ON TO BIGGER PLACES.
WELL, THE BUSTLING CITY OF
MORDEN SEEMS TO HAVE FOUND THE
SECRET TO KEEPING THE WORKERS.
KAREN PAULS WENT TO FIND OUT
HOW.
>> Reporter: MOST OF THESE
SEWING MACHINE OPERATORS ARE
NEWCOMERS, RECRUITED THROUGH
MANITOBA'S PROVINCIAL NOMINEE
PROGRAMME.
>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE
FINDING WORK.
WE HAVE TROUBLE FINDING ENOUGH
PEOPLE.
>> Reporter: SHEILA RAMESH
MOVED FROM INDIA LAST YEAR.
SHE'S ALREADY BEEN PROMOTED TO A
CLOTHING INSPECTOR.
>> THERE ARE SO MUCH
OPPORTUNITIES FOR A CAREER AND
FOR THE KIDS ALSO, THERE ARE
MANY THINGS TO DO HERE.
>> YOU GET A CHANCE TO KIND OF
TRAVEL THE WORLD EVERY DAY...
>> Reporter: AS PART OF THE
PROVINCIAL PROGRAMME, MORDEN HAS
ITS OWN RECRUITMENT INITIATIVE.
SHELLEY VOST HAS BROUGHT IN 50
FAMILIES A YEAR SINCE 2012.
>> IT'S A UNIQUE PROGRAMME AND
WE GET ASKED A LOT ABOUT IT FROM
OTHER COMMUNITIES.
WE GET ASKED A LOT ABOUT IT FROM
ACROSS CANADA.
>> Reporter: BECAUSE OF THIS
EXTRA PUSH MORDEN'S POPULATION
HAS NEARLY DOUBLED IN THE LAST
DECADE.
85% OF THE NEWCOMERS ARE STAYING
IN TOWN, BUCKING A CANADA-WIDE
TREND WHERE MOST PROVINCIAL
NOMINEES SETTLE IN BIG CITIES.
>> THIS IS AN OXYGEN
CONCENTRATOR...
>> Reporter: JIM DUFF OF ON2
SOLUTIONS HOPES VOTH CAN HELP
HIM TO
FIND UP TO 200 WORKERS IN THE
NEXT THREE YEARS.
HE NEEDS ELECTRICIANS AND
PLUMBERS TO BUILD OXYGEN
CONCENTRATORS FOR HOSPITALS AND
DISASTER EQUIPMENT
FOR THE MINING COMPANIES.
DUFF HAS TRIED TO HIRE LOCAL
PEOPLE BUT SAYS THAT HE CAN'T
FIND WHAT HE NEEDS.
>> IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE
SKILLSET.
IT'S THE WORK ETHIC.
THAT'S A HARD THING TO FIND.
SO OUR LAST INTERVIEW PROCESS WE
INTERVIEWED A COUPLE OF BORN AND
RAISED CANADIANS AND THE
DIFFERENCE IN ATTITUDE WAS
SHOCKING.
>> Reporter: MEANWHILE HE'S
THRILLED WITH THE STAFF HE'S
ALREADY HIRED THROUGH THE
PROVINCIAL NOMINEE PROGRAMME.
>> I WOULD VERY HONESTLY SAY IF
WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE FIVE
PEOPLE, WE WOULDN'T BE WHERE WE
ARE NOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT
WE WOULD NECESSARILY BE IN
BUSINESS.
>> Reporter: TWO OF THEM ARE
THE HUSBAND AND WIFE TEAM OF
VICTOR AND EVEY.
HE'S AN ELECTRONICS ENGINEER AND
SHE'S IN CHARGE OF INVENTORY
CONTROL, PURCHASING
AND SHIPPING/RECEIVING.
THEY MOVED TO MORDEN FROM
UKRAINE THREE YEARS AGO AND THEY
FEEL SAFE HERE.
>> I WAS IN MAYBE IN A REALLY
SMALL TOWN IN MANITOBA, BECAUSE
OF MY WORK, BUT MORDEN IS SO
SPECIAL.
>> Reporter: AND NOW IT'S ALSO
HOME.
KAREN PAULS, CBC NEWS, MORDEN,
MANITOBA.
>> Adrienne: NEXT ON "THE
NATIONAL"... AS SOME MALE
CELEBRITIES ACCUSED OF
INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOUR OR WORSE
SEEM TO BE PLANNING THEIR
COMEBACKS WE REVISIT THE
INTERVIEW WITH EMILY STEEL WHO
GAVE VICTIMS A VOICE OF BREAKING
THE STORIES OF "ME TOO.
".
>>> AND WE HEAD TO TORONTO'S
BIGGEST FAN CONVENTION WHERE
WOMEN SAY THAT CHANGE IS IN THE
AIR.
(*)
>> I HAVE BEEN COMING TO THIS
SHOW FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS NOW
AND THERE HAS CERTAINLY BEEN A
BOOST OF WOMEN IN THE SHOW THAN
THE GUYS.
IT'S REALLY AMAZING TO SEE THEM
COMPLETELY HAVE FUN WITH THE
ENVIRONMENT.
(*)
>> Adrienne: THEIR
RESIGNATIONS WERE PUBLIC AND THE
BACKLASH SWIFT BUT CAN THE MAN
DISGRACED IN THE "ME TOO"
MOVEMENT RETURN TO THE
SPOTLIGHT?
WELL, THIS WEEK WE SAW SOME OF
THE FIRST STEPS TOWARDS
COMEBACKS.
COMEDIAN LOUIS C.K. RETURNED TO
THE STAGE FOR THE FIRST TIME
SINCE HE WAS ACCUSED OF
MASTURBATING IN FRONT OF FEMALE
COLLEAGUES.
PAGE SIX REPORTED THAT FIRED
"TODAY SHOW" HOST MATT LAUER
TOLD FANS THAT I HAVE BEEN BUSY
BEING A DAD, BUT DON'T WORRY,
I'LL BE BACK ON TV.
AND FOR SOME TIME IT'S RUMOURED
THAT THE FORMER CBS HOST FOR
"THIS MORNING" CHARLIE ROSE IS
LOOKING TO HOST A NEW SHOW WHERE
HE INTERVIEWS MEN BROUGHT DOWN
BY THE MOVEMENT.
SO GIVEN ALL THAT'S HAPPENING,
TONIGHT LET'S REVISIT ROSIE'S
INTERVIEW WITH EMILY STEEL
WHOSE REPORTING HELPED TO EXPOSE
THE MISCONDUCT OF POWERFUL MEN
IN AMERICAN MEDIA.
(*)
>> Rosemary: EMILY STEEL IS A
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTER.
LAST APRIL SHE AND HER COLLEAGUE
MICHAEL SCHMIDT DROPPED A
BOMBSHELL ABOUT THE THEN FOX
NEWS HOST BILL O'REILLY.
>> HI, I'M BILL O'REILLY.
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING US
TONIGHT.
>> Rosemary: REVEALING PAYOUTS
OF MORE THAN $45 MILLION TO
MULTIPLE WOMEN OVER SEXUAL
HARASSMENT ALLEGATIONS.
O'REILLY DENIED THE ALLEGATIONS
BUT FOX NEWS DROPPED THE
CONSERVATIVE COMMENTARY FROM HIS
JUGGERNAUT SHOW.
>> YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT IS
HAPPENING IN THE WORKPLACE, GO
TO HUMAN RESOURCES OR LEAVE.
>> Rosemary: IN DECEMBER STEEL
REPORTED
ON A TOXIC WORK CULTURE AT VICE
MEDIA.
TWO TOP EXECUTIVES WERE
SUSPENDED.
EXPL JUST LAST WEEK STEEL WAS
PART OF
A TEAM FROM "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
AWARDED THE PULITZER PRIZE FOR
PUBLIC SERVICE.
I MET UP WITH EMILY STEEL AT THE
NATIONAL ARTS CENTRE IN OTTAWA
ON WEDNESDAY.
SHE WAS IN CANADA TO TALK ABOUT
HER REPORTING AND HOW IT HELPED
TO TRIGGER THE "ME TOO"
MOVEMENT.
YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO THINK
ABOUT WHAT I WOULD FEEL LIKE AS
A 33-YEAR-OLD WHO HAS WON THE
PULITZER.
>> ACTUALLY I'M 34.
>> Rosemary: 34.
34.
>> YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE
THINGS THAT AS SOON AS I FOUND
OUT I COULDN'T SLEEP FOR A
NUMBER OF DAYS.
SINCE I WAS A VERY LITTLE GIRL I
ALWAYS DREAMED OF BECOMING A
JOURNALIST.
AND I'VE ALWAYS REALLY THOUGHT
ABOUT THESE LOFTY IDEAS OF
JOURNALISM, OF SHINING A LIGHT
IN DARK PLACING AND HOLDING
PEOPLE IN THESE
POSITIONS OF POWER ACCOUNTABLE
AND TELLING THESE STORIES THAT
REALLY HELPED TO CHANGE THE
PERSPECTIVE OF HOW PEOPLE THINK
ABOUT THE WORLD.
AND IT'S REALLY JUST BEEN A
DREAM COME TRUE THAT I'VE BEEN
ABLE TO DO THAT WORK.
AND THEN TO RECEIVE THE PULITZER
IS REALLY JUST -- IT WAS REALLY
SPECIAL.
>> Rosemary: INCREDIBLE, AN
INCREDIBLE MOMENT.
SO CONGRATULATIONS.
>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
>> Rosemary: LET'S TALK ABOUT
SOME OF THE REPORTING THEN AND
SORT OF THE IMPACT AND HOW IT
STARTED.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD -- AS A
REPORTER I HAVE A LOT OF
QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW YOU GET
THESE STORIES.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT
PEOPLE WANT TO UNDERSTAND TOO.
HOW DID IT FIRST START TO
GERMINATE?
WHAT WAS FIRST THING ON THE BILL
O'REILLY STORY WHERE YOU WERE
LIKE, HMM, WE SHOULD LOOK INTO
THIS?
HOW DID THAT START?
>> THE KIND OF THE SEEDS OF THIS
STORY
REALLY BEGAN WAY BACK IN
JULY 2016.
AND THAT'S WHEN GRETCHEN
CARLSON, THE FORMER FOX NEWS
ANCHOR, SUED ROGER ALES THE HEAD
OF FOX NEWS FOR SEXUAL
HAR ASMENT.
THAT STORY REALLY BURST INTO THE
PUBLIC VIEW, THE SEXUAL
HARASSMENT SCANDAL AT FOX NEWS.
AND AS A
MEDIA REPORTER WE WERE JUST
REALLY CHASING THAT STORY.
AND JUST TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH
THIS REALLY WILD AND CRAZY
COMPETITION OF FIGURING OUT WAS
THIS AN ISSUE JUST AT THE TOP OF
THE COMPANY OR WAS THIS
SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY
PERVASIVE THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE
ORGINISATION.
SO WE KEPT CALLING AND CALLING
AND CALLING AND WE STARTED TO
SEE THAT THERE'S A BIGGER STORY
HERE.
THAT THERE'S A BIGGER PROBLEM.
>> Rosemary: SO YOU WERE
CALLING ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT
PEOPLE BUT YOU WERE ALSO CALLING
THEM ABOUT A SENSITIVE TOPIC.
>> UM-HMM.
>> Rosemary: A TOPIC WHERE
MAYBE THEY HAD SIGNED AN
AGREEMENT TO NOT DISCUSS IT.
SO HOW DID YOU GET PEOPLE TO
START TELLING YOU THESE STORIES?
>> IT WAS HARD.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KEEP
THINKING ABOUT NOW IS THAT WE
WERE DOING A LOT OF THIS
REPORTING A FULL YEAR BEFORE
THE "ME TOO" MOVEMENT REALLY
TOOK OFF.
SO THIS WAS A TIME WHEN MANY
WOMEN SAID THEY HAD EXPERIENCED
THIS ACTIVITY OR THIS HARASSMENT
OR ABUSE, BUT THEY REALLY FEARED
COMING FORWARD WITH THESE
STORIES.
>> Rosemary: IT WAS A
DIFFERENT CULTURE?
>> IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO BUT
IT WAS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT
TIME.
PEOPLE FEARED THEY WOULDN'T BE
BELIEVED.
THEY FEARED THEY'D PUT THEIR
CAREERS INTO JEOPARDY.
THEY FEARED THAT THEY WOULD
BECOME TARGETS BECAUSE THEY WERE
SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THIS ABUSE.
SO THAT WAS A HUGE BARRIER AND A
HUGE HURDLE THAT WE FACED.
THE OTHER HUGE AND SIGNIFICANT
BARRIER THAT WE FACED WERE THESE
VERY IRON-CLAD CONFIDENTIALITY
AGREEMENTS.
SO WHAT WE DID IS SOME REALLY
KIND OF OLD-SCHOOL BOOTS ON THE
GROUND REPORTING.
AND WE CALLED AS MANY PEOPLE AS
POSSIBLE.
WE CALLED AS MANY PEOPLE CLOSE
TO THESE WOMEN, MANY LAWYERS AND
PEOPLE WHO WERE AT THE COMPANY,
PEOPLE WHO HAD LEFT THE COMPANY,
PEOPLE IN O'REILLY'S WORLD, TO
JUST TRY TO PIECE TOGETHER WHAT
THIS STORY WAS.
>> Rosemary: AND YOU REALISED
AT WHAT POINT THAT IT WAS A
PATTERN, THAT HIS BEHAVIOUR WAS
A PATTERN, AND THE COMPANY'S
RESOLUTION WAS A PATTERN?
>> ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS
THAT WE DID IS WE WENT BACK --
WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS REPORTING
ONE OF OUR SOURCES SAID IT'S
JUST LIKE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH,
IT'S JUST LIKE THE CATHOLIC
ABUSE SCANDAL IN THE CATHOLIC
CHURCH.
SO WE THOUGHT LET'S GO AND LOOK
AT THE STORIES THAT THE "BOSTON
GLOBE" HAD COVERED BACK IN
ABOUT THE SEX ABUSE SCANDAL
WITHIN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
WE PULLED UP ALL OF THOSE
STORIES AND WE ACTUALLY WATCHED
THE MOVIE, BECAUSE IT WAS GREAT
TO SEE HOW DID THEY DO THIS
REPORTING AND WHAT WAS THE
STRATEGY BEHIND THAT REPORTING,
WHAT SORT OF LINES DID THEY USE
TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO TALK TO
THEM.
>> HI.
>> HI.
>> I AM FROM THE "BOSTON GLOBE."
>> Rosemary: DID YOU HAVE A
2002 CONVERSATION THOUGH AT ANY
POINT DURING THE
REPORTING ABOUT WHAT THIS WOULD
MEAN OR ARE YOU TOO DEEP IN IT
AT THAT POINT TO UNDERSTAND?
>> IT WAS SUCH INTENSE REPORTING
AND WE WERE SO FOCUSED ON
FOLLOWING THE FACTS AND MAKING
SURE THAT THIS IS A FAIR AND AN
ACCURATE STORY THAT WHEN -- WHEN
THE STORY PUBLISHED IN APRIL OF
LAST YEAR IT PUBLISHED AND THEN
IT JUST LIKE EXPLODED.
IT SET OFF THIS FIRESTORM.
AND IT'S WILD TO THINK ABOUT BUT
IT WAS RIGHT AFTER THE STORY
PUBLISHED THAT THERE WERE
PROTESTS OUTSIDE OF FOX NEWS.
ADVERTISERS BOYCOTTED BILL
O'REILLY'S SHOW.
AND YOU REALLY CAN'T
UNDERESTIMATE HOW POWERFUL HE
WAS IN AMERICAN MEDIA.
PEOPLE CALLED HIM THE "KING OF
CABLE NEWS."
AND THE SHOW WAS THE TOP-RATED
ON ALL OF CABLE NEWS FOR 15
YEARS.
SO HERE'S THIS VERY POWERFUL
MAN.
SO IT WAS THIS KIND OF MOMENT
WHEN PEOPLE STOOD BACK AND SAID,
WAIT, THIS ISN'T JUST FOX NEWS,
THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE THAT OUR
SOCIETY HASN'T CONFRONTED, THAT
WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT.
AND IT WAS AT THAT POINT THAT
EDITORS AT "THE TIMES" DECIDED
LET'S CONTINUE TO DIG.
WHO ARE OTHER POWERFUL MEN THAT
MAY HAVE HAD THESE HIDDEN
STORIES.
SO THAT'S WHEN MY COLLEAGUE
STARTED TO WRITE ABOUT ISSUES IN
SILICON VALLEY, IN HOLLYWOOD,
AND AT THE AUTO PLANT AT FORD
AND THE STORIES JUST KEPT ON
COMING AND COMING.
>> Rosemary: THAT MOMENT WHEN
YOU DID FINALLY GO AND MEET HIM.
>> YEAH.
>> Rosemary: HAD HE LOST HIS
JOB AT THAT POINT?
THE TIMING IS HARD FOR ME TO
FOLLOW.
YOU KNOW IT SO WELL AND I DON'T
KNOW.
BUT HE FINALLY AGREED TO TALK TO
YOU ON THE RECORD.
>> RIGHT.
>> Rosemary: WHAT WAS THAT
LIKE?
>> I WAS NERVOUS.
AND WE SAT DOWN FOR AN INTERVIEW
AND IT WAS KIND OF A VERY TERSE
AND TENSE 40 MINUTES.
BUT IT WAS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT
BECAUSE IT WAS ALL ON THE RECORD
AND WE WERE GIVING HIM THE
CHANCE TO RESPOND TO ALL OF OUR
REPORTING.
>> Rosemary: THAT'S WHAT
BALANCED AND FAIR REPORTING IS.
>> EXACTLY.
>> Rosemary: BUT AT THE END HE
SORT OF LOSES IT A LITTLE BIT?
>> THERE WAS A POINT AT THE END
OF THE REPORTING WHERE WE WERE
PUTTING OUR FOLDERS AND OUR
PAPERS INTO THE BAG AND KIND OF
READY TO CALL AN END TO THE
INTERVIEW, AND O'REILLY KIND OF
STANDS UP AT THE END AND HE PUTS
HIS HANDS ON THE TABLE.
AND OUR RECORDERS ARE STILL
RUNNING AND SO YOU CAN HEAR THIS
ON "THE DAILY."
AND HE YELLS AT US...
>> THIS IS HORRIBLE.
IT'S HORRIBLE WHAT I WENT
THROUGH.
HORRIBLE WHAT MY FAMILY WENT
THROUGH.
THIS IS CRAP AND YOU KNOW IT.
IT'S POLITICALLY AND FINANCIALLY
MOTIVATED.
AND WE CAN PROVE IT WITH -- WITH
SHOCKING INFORMATION.
BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SIT THERE
IN A COURTROOM FOR A YEAR AND A
HALF AND LET MY KIDS GET BEATEN
UP EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THEIR
LIVES BY A TABLOID PRESS WHO
WOULD SIT THERE, AND YOU KNOW
IT.
>> Rosemary: AND THEN YOU JUST
LEFT?
>> YEAH.
SO THEN WE KIND OF SHOOK THE
LAWYERS' HANDS AND HE DIDN'T
SHAKE OUR HANDS AT THE END AND
HE WALKED TO THE WINDOW AND JUST
STOOD LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW.
AND THEN MIKE AND I GOT ON THE
ELEVATOR AND WE WERE A LITTLE
RATTLED.
WE WENT BACK AND TOLD OUR
EDITORS WHAT HAPPENED AND WE GOT
THE STORY INTO THE PAPER.
>> Rosemary: HOW DO YOU FEEL
NOW THAT THAT PART OF THE
REPORTING IS OVER?
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HIS CAREER IS
DONE.
HE'S DONE.
THESE WOMEN HAVE BEEN GIVEN A
VOICE.
THE TRUTH HAS BEEN EXPOSED.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT ALL OF
THAT NOW, NOW THAT YOU'VE HAD
TIME TO SIT BACK?
>> I MEAN, I THINK THAT IT'S
REALLY POWERFUL TO SEE THE POWER
OF JOURNALISM.
I THINK THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN
EXTRAORDINARY YEAR FOR REPORTING
AND FOR FOLLOWING THE FACTS.
I THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE SEEN
IS THAT THE TRUTH DOES HAVE A
VOICE, THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO
HOLD PEOPLE IN POSITIONS OF
POWER TO ACCOUNT.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE
SYSTEMS THAT HAVE ENABLED THAT
POWER STRUCTURE TO CONTINUE.
AND IT'S ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT
TO GIVE A VOICE TO PEOPLE WHO
HAVE BEEN SILENCED.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST
REALLY INCREDIBLE.
AND I JUST FEEL REALLY GRATEFUL
TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT
WORK.
>> Rosemary: YEAH.
WELL, CONGRATULATIONS.
YOU MUST BE VERY PROUD.
>> I AM.
THANK YOU.
IT'S SO NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> Rosemary: NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> Adrienne: GOOD
CONVERSATION.
WHEN YOU THINK OF SUPER HEROES,
BATMAN AND IRONMAN, SPIDER-MAN,
LOTS OF SPIDER-MAN AND LOTS OF
MEN ON THAT LIST, BUT AT THIS
YEAR'S FAN EXPO A GATHERING OF
FANTASY FANS OF ALL STRIPES FROM
GAMERS TO COMIC BOOK COLLECTORS,
THERE IS NO QUESTION WOMEN ARE
HAVING A REAL MOMENT.
"WONDER WOMAN" WAS THE BIGGEST
BLOCKBUSTER FROM THE FEMALE
DIRECTOR.
"BLACK PANTHER" WAS PRAISED FOR
A MULTITUDE OF STRONG FEMINIST
CHARACTERS.
AND THIS SUMMER EVANGELINE LILLY
WAS THE FIRST WOMAN TO HAVE
EQUAL BILLING ON A MARVEL MOVIE.
SO IF THIS YEAR'S FAN EXPO TELLS
US ANYTHING, IT'S THAT THESE
FILMS ARE PAYING OFF, NOT JUST
AT THE BOX OFFICE.
>> THERE'S BEEN A LOT MORE
FEMALE REPRESENTATION IN COMIC
BOOKS AND IN MEDIA IN GENERAL.
IT JUST FEELS NICE, YOU KNOW, TO
KNOW THAT GIRLS CAN DO IT TOO.
>> Adrienne: AND IT'S NOT JUST
THAT THERE ARE MORE WOMEN, IT'S
HOW THEY'RE BEING PORTRAYED.
TAKE HARLEY QUINN IN D.C.
COMICS.
>> YOU'RE SEEING THAT SORT OF
RE-ROLE OF HER, EVEN IN THE
COMIC BOOK SHE'S GOT A LOUDER
VOICE, YOU KNOW, EVEN SOME OF
HER STORYLINE SHE'S BREAKING
AWAY FROM BEING A VICTIM.
AND SHE'S REALLY COMING OUT OF
HER OWN SHELL AND SO THAT'S
GREAT.
>> Adrienne: THERE'S ROOM FOR
IMPROVEMENT.
OF THE 61 CELEBRITY GUESTS, ONLY
19 ARE WOMEN AND ALMOST ALL OF
THEM ARE WHITE.
STILL, THIS FAN SAYS THAT FEMALE
EMPOWERMENT ON SCREEN TRANSLATES
OFF-SCREEN TOO.
>> I HAVE BEEN COMING TO THIS
SHOW FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS NOW
AND THERE HAS CERTAINLY BEEN A
BOOST OF WOMEN IN THIS SHOW THAN
THE GUYS.
AND IT'S REALLY AMAZING TO SEE
THEM JUST COMPLETELY HAVE FUN
AND IT'S REALLY AMAZING TO SEE
THEM JUST COMPLETELY HAVE FUN
WITH THE ENVIRONMENT.
TH
>> Adrienne: THE SOOTHING
SOUND OF OCEAN WAVES CAN BE
AN APPEALING SEDATIVE.
AROUND THE WORLD IT'S A DRAW FOR
PEOPLE LOOKING JUST TO RELAX.
IN ISRAEL THOUGH A REALLY
POPULAR RACKET GAME CAN MAKE
PARADISE A LITTLE LOUDER.
IS THAT SOUND GETTING ON YOUR
NERVES EVEN JUST A LITTLE BIT?
WELL, THE GAME IS NOT MEANT TO
BE COMPETITIVE BUT IT'S
CERTAINLY MADE SOME ENEMIES.
THE CBC'S DEREK STOFFEL HEARS
FROM BOTH
SIDES IN TONIGHT'S "DISPATCH
FROM TEL AVIV."
>> Reporter: THIS IS THE
SOUNDTRACK TO SUMMER IN ISRAEL.
AS THE TEMPERATURES SOAR THE
BEACHES ARE TAKEN OVER BY THE
MATKOT, A KIND OF
PADDLE BALL THAT LOCALS HERE SAY
IS ISRAEL'S UNOFFICIAL NATIONAL
SPORT.
HE EXPLAINS THE GAME HE'S BEEN
PLAYING SINCE HE WAS A KID.
>> WE CAN SAY IT'S LIKE TENNIS
BUT WE PLAY IT WITH THIS AND THE
BALL IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND WE HAVE TO GIVE THE BALL
FROM ONE TO THE OTHER ONE.
>> Reporter: THE RULES ARE
SIMPLE -- THERE ARE NONE.
>> THERE'S NO SCORE.
YOU'RE JUST PLAYING, IT'S JUST
BACK AND FORTH.
THAT'S IT.
>> Reporter: ISRAELIS HAVE A
REPUTATION OF BEING ASSERTIVE.
THEY TAKE THEIR SPORTS SERIOUSLY
HERE WITH INTENSE RIVALRIES WHEN
IT COMES TO BASKETBALL AND
SOCCER.
BUT AT THE BEACH WHEN THE
MATKOT PADDLES ARE OUT IT'S MUCH
MORE CHILL.
>> WELL, IT'S JUST CASUAL FUN.
JUST COME TO THE BEACH AND PLAY
FOR FUN WITH NO -- THERE'S NO
COMPETITION.
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT
UP.
IT'S JUST FOR FUN.
>> WE BOTH PLAY TOGETHER WITH
THE SAME TEAM AND WE ARE TRYING,
BOTH OF US, TO DO IT HARDER AND
FASTER AS WE CAN.
>> Reporter: THE GAME IS
INDEED POPULAR AND IT'S PLAYED
UP AND DOWN THE MEDITERRANEAN
COAST HERE BUT FOR THOSE WHO
WANT TO SOAK UP THE SUN IN PEACE
IT'S DOWNRIGHT ANNOYING, EVEN
DANGEROUS.
THESE TWO ISRAELI FILMMAKERS
DISLIKE MATKOT SO MUCH THAT THEY
MADE THIS VIDEO.
>> Reporter: THEY SAY THIS
WOMAN IS ONE OF MANY WHO HAS
BEEN HURT BY CARELESS PLAYERS.
>> [speaking foreign language]
>> Reporter: ISRAELI
AUTHORITIES 15 YEARS AGO MADE
SECTIONS OF THE BEACHES MATKOT
FREE ZONES AND CITY INSPECTORS
SOMETIMES PATROL LOOKING FOR
OFFENDERS.
BUT MOST OF THE SUNBATHERS THAT
WE SPOKE TO WEREN'T TOO BOTHERED
BY THE SOUND OR THE PLAYERS.
>> I THINK THAT IT'S A FUN GAME,
IT'S A FUN GAME.
SOME PEOPLE PLAY VERY WELL.
>> Reporter: THOSE GUYS
WERE --
>> VERY WELL.
VERY WELL.
>> Reporter: STILL PLAYING
VERY WELL AT THE AGE OF 74 IS
THE MAN WHO HAS BECOME KNOWN AS
THE MATKOT KING.
HE'S OUT AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK
FOR SEVERAL HOURS OF INTENSE
PLAY.
HE LOVES IT SO MUCH THAT HE'S
TURNED HIS APARTMENT INTO A
SHRINE TO THE GAME.
HE'S COLLECTED MORE THAN 350
PADDLES, THE LARGEST COLLECTION
IN ISRAEL.
SHOW ME SOME OF YOUR FAVOURITE
RACKETS HERE.
WHICH ONES THAT YOU LIKE?
>> THESE MARBLE.
>> Reporter: MARBLE, OKAY.
SHE PAINTED YOU ON THAT.
INCLUDING THIS ONE PAINTED BY A
FRIEND.
HIS MUSEUM OF MATKOT DRAWS
VISITORS FROM
AROUND THE WORLD.
>> CANADA...
>> Reporter: WHO COME TO
EXPERIENCE HIS LIFETIME PASSION.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: IT'S A GAME OF
TOGETHERNESS, THERE ARE NO
WINNERS OR LOSERS, HE SAYS.
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
HERE TAKE PART SIMPLY FOR THE
PLEASURE OF TWO PEOPLE PLAYING
TOGETHER.
IT'S THOUGHT THAT PEOPLE HERE
HAVE BEEN PLAYING THE GAME FOR
ABOUT A HUNDRED YEARS.
SIMILAR VERSIONS OF THE GAME
EXIST ON THE BEACHES OF
CALIFORNIA, BRAZIL AND ACROSS
THE MEDITERRANEAN.
BUT FOR ISRAELIS, THIS SIMPLE
SPORT, TWO PEOPLE, TWO PADDLES,
IS NOW PART OF THEIR CULTURE.
DEREK STOFFEL, CBC NEWS, TEL
AVIV.
>> Adrienne: I WANT TO PLAY.
>>> STILL AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL" "OUR MOMENT OF THE
DAY."
AN OMINOUS MESSAGE FROM THE
PAST.
THIS IS A WARNING TO US SENT
STRAIGHT FROM THE 17th
CENTURY.
REVEALED BY HISTORIC DROUGHTS IN
EUROPE.
THE MESSAGE IS OUR "MOMENT."
BUT FIRST E.T. FIND HOME.
SPACE SCIENTISTS ARE HOPING THAT
OPPORTUNITY HAS A CHANCE TO
FINALLY WAKE UP.
MARS ROVER HAS BEEN SILENT FOR
MONTHS AS IT WAITS OUT A FIERCE
DUST STORM THAT HAS PASSED
OVERHEAD.
>> THE OPPORTUNITY IS PRETTY
AMAZING BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY
EXPECTED TO LAST FOR 90 MARTIAN
DAYS ON THE SURFACE.
AND IT'S BEEN WORKING FOR ABOUT
15 YEARS NOW.
AND THIS HAS BEEN REALLY BEEN
GREAT BECAUSE WE HAVE MOVED FAR
BEYOND WHERE WE INITIALLY LANDED
AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EXPLORE
A BUNCH OF NEW LITTLE PIECES OF
MARS.
>> Adrienne: OPPORTUNITY FIRST
LAUNCHED IN 2003.
IT LANDED ON THE RED PLANET A
YEAR LATER AND HAS BEEN BEAMING
BACK INFORMATION SINCE.
IT'S ABOUT THE SIZE OF A GOLF
CART AND IT'S WEATHERED A FEW
SCARES BEFORE.
A LARGE STORM IN 2007.
AND AGAIN IN 2010, WHEN SEVERE
COLD FROM A MARTIAN WINTER JUST
KNOCKED OUT THE ROVER'S TWIN,
SPIRIT.
HARDY OPPORTUNITY ALSO SURVIVED
SERIOUS BREAKDOWNS BUT THE
LATEST STORM A COUPLE MONTHS AGO
HAS SCIENTISTS NERVOUS.
THE ROVER WAS LAST JUNE HEARD
FROM JUNE 10th.
>> I THINK THAT EVERYBODY LOVES
THE STORY OF THE LITTLE ROVER
THAT COULD BECAUSE IT'S LASTED
SO MUCH LONGER THAN WE EXPECTED.
SO WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF
OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT ON TWITTER
WITH THE #WAKEUPOPPY AND
#SAVEOPPY, OUR CUTE NAME FOR THE
ROVER AS WE LIKE TO CALL HER.
>> Adrienne: NOW THAT THE
SKIES CLEAR UP, NASA IS HOPING
THAT THE
ROVER WILL POWER UP AGAIN AND
GET BACK IT WORK AFTER A LONG
HIBERNATION.
IT'S BEEN GIVEN 45 DAYS TO
RESPOND TO THE TEAM'S SIGNAL AND
AFTER THAT NASA MAY HAVE TO
CONCEDE THAT THE ROVER WON'T
RECOVER.
IN THE MEANTIME WE CAN BASK IN
THE DISCOVERIES THAT THE
OPPORTUNITY HAS MAD
* [ light hearted ]
>> Now I remember that
the real world was wide
*
and that a varied field of
hopes and fears,
of sensations and excitements,
awaited those who had
the courage to go forth
into its expanse.
To seek real knowledge of life
[laughter]
amidst its perils.
*
(*)
>> Adrienne: HERE'S SOME OF
THE STORIES WE'RE FOLLOWING ON
"THE NATIONAL" THIS UPCOMING
WEEK... IT IS BACK TO SCHOOL FOR
MOST STUDENTS ACROSS CANADA.
ONTARIO WILL BE LAUNCHING ITS
CONTROVERSIAL INTERIM SEX-ED
CURRICULUM.
PREMIER DOUG FORD HAS REALLY
TAKEN A HARDLINE SUGGESTING THAT
THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES IF
THE TEACHERS DON'T ADHERE TO IT.
AND THERE ARE QUESTIONS TOO IN
OTHER PROVINCES ABOUT CLASS
SIZES.
THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT A
TEACHER SHORTAGE THAT PERSISTS
IN PARTS OF
THE COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY B.C.,
WHERE HUNDREDS OF VACANCIES HAVE
YET TO BE FILLED.
>> WHERE'S YOUR BROTHER?
>> NO!
>> BUT IT CAN ALSO BE A WEAPON.
>> Adrienne: THE TORONTO
INTERNATIONAL FILM FESTIVAL
OPENS ON THURSDAY.
FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER A SMALL
SCREEN NETFLIX MOVIE HAS BEEN
CHOSEN FOR TIFF'S BIG SCREEN
GALA OPENER.
"OUTLAW KING" STARS CHRIS PINE
AND IT'S ALSO THE FIRST SCOTTISH
FILM TO OPEN THE FESTIVAL.
THIS WEEK WE'LL TAKE A CLOSER
LOOK AT JUST HOW NETFLIX IS
DISRUPTING HOLLYWOOD.
>>> NOW IT'S NOT EVERY DAY THAT
YOU GET A MESSAGE FROM THE PAST
BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IS
HAPPENING IN EUROPE AND IT'S A
DIRE WARNING.
IT'S ALSO TONIGHT'S "MOMENT."
(*)
IT'S BEEN A SUMMER FULL OF
RECORDS AND EXTREMES, JUST TAKE
A LOOK AT B.C., THE PROVINCE IS
NOW OFFICIALLY DEALING WITH ITS
WORST WILDFIRE SEASON ON RECORD
IN TERMS OF HECTARES BURNED.
THAT'S MEANT SMOKY SKIES FOR
MUCH OF WESTERN CANADA.
THIS IS CALGARY'S SKYLINE, SORT
OF.
LET'S NOT FORGET MONTREAL'S
DEADLY HEAT WAVE BACK IN JULY
BUT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES
FEELING THE EFFECTS OF EXTREME
TEMPERATURES.
HAVE A LOOK AT EUROPE WHERE
SUMMER HAS FELT LIKE A
MODERN-DAY VERSION OF BIBLICAL
PLAGUES AND JUST WHEN YOU
THOUGHT THAT THE WARNING SIGNS
COULDN'T GET ANY WORSE, BRING IN
THE HUNGER STONES.
LOCATED IN THE CZECH REPUBLIC
ALONG THE ELBOW RIVER, THE ROCKS
WERE USED TO RECORD LOW WATER
LEVELS, BUT STARTING CENTURIES
AGO WHEN THOSE WATER LEVELS GOT
DANGEROUSLY LOW, BAD ENOUGH TO
RESULT IN DROUGHTS AND TERRIBLE
HARVEST, PAST GENERATIONS WROTE
NOTES ON THOSE ROCKS, WARNINGS
TO THE PEOPLE OF THE FUTURE.
LIKE THIS ONE, A MESSAGE FROM
1904 SAYING IF YOU SEE ME, WEEP.
AT LEAST A DOZEN OF THESE HUNGER
STONES IN THE CZECH REPUBLIC AND
GERMANY HAVE NOW APPEARED.
NO ONE KNOWS HOW MANY THERE
REALLY ARE.
>>> OKAY, SO THE EARLIEST
MESSAGE THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO
FIND WAS FROM 1616 AND IT SEEMS
THAT WHEN THE WATER GETS TO
ABOUT 160 CENTIMETRES BELOW THAT
POINT THAT'S WHEN THE MESSAGES
START TO APPEAR AND IT'S ALREADY
BEEN A BIT OF A DISASTER IN THAT
ONE SPOT IN THE CZECH REPUBLIC.
IT HAS LOST COMMERCIAL AND
PRIVATE SHIPPING SO THEY KNOW
THAT IT MEANS BUSINESS.
THAT IS "THE NATIONAL" FOR
SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 2nd.
GOODNIGHT.
(*)
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