>> Adrienne: ON THIS WEDNESDAY
NIGHT, DONALD TRUMP MEETS THE
PRESS.
THE ATMOSPHERE, A BIT
CIRCUS-LIKE.
THE MESSAGES, VERY SERIOUS.
THE U.S. PRESIDENT BLASTING
CANADA ON NAFTA AND SQUARELY
SUPPORTING HIS CHOICE FOR THE
SUPREME COURT.
WITH HOURS TO GO BEFORE THE
HEARING, MORE ACCUSERS ARE
COMING FORWARD.
>> Andrew: WHY THE TRANSFER OF A
PRISONER DOMINATED THE POLITICAL
CONVERSATION IN OTTAWA.
>> Rosemary: WHEN YOUR HOUSE IS
THE CENTRE OF A SERIAL MURDER
INVESTIGATION.
YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE WOMAN
THAT LIVES WHERE BRUCE MCARTHUR
IS ALLEGED TO HAVE BURIED HIS
VICTIMS, WAITING TO RECLAIM HER
PRIVACY.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
>> Rosemary: DONALD TRUMP BRASH,
UNCENSORED AND UNTETHERED TO THE
TRUTH, YOU'VE HEARD IT BEFORE.
TODAY HE SURPASSED EVEN HIMSELF.
IN A RAMBLING, STREAM OF
CONSCIOUSNESS NEWS CONFERENCE
WHERE THE INSULTS WERE FLYING.
AMONG HIS TARGETS, CANADA,
NAFTA, OUR CHIEF NEGOTIATOR AND
THE PRIME MINISTER.
THE CBC'S KATIE SIMPSON LOOKS AT
WHAT IT MAY MEAN DAYS BEFORE THE
LATEST DEADLINE.
>> Reporter: DID YOU REJECT A
ONE-ON-ONE MEETING WITH THE
CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER, JUSTIN
TRUDEAU?
>> President Donald Trump: YEAH,
I DID.
>> Reporter: WHY?
>> President Donald Trump: HIS
TARIFFS ARE TOO HIGH AND HE
DOESN'T SEEM TO WANT TO MOVE AND
I TOLD HIM, FORGET ABOUT IT.
>> Reporter: DONALD TRUMP IS
MAKING TRADE TENSIONS DEEPLY
PERSONAL, USING INSULTS,
HYPERBOLE AND THREATS.
THE PRESIDENT TOOK FRESH AIM AT
CANADA AND THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MINISTER LEADING THE CANADIAN
NEGOTIATING TEAM.
>> President Donald Trump:
FRANKLY, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT
TAXING CARS COMING IN FROM
CANADA.
THAT'S THE MOTHER LODE.
IT'S THE BIG ONE.
WE'RE UNHAPPY WITH THE
NEGOTIATIONS AND NEGOTIATING
STYLE FROM CANADA.
WE DON'T LIKE THEIR
REPRESENTATIVE VERY MUCH.
>> Reporter: TRUMP'S WORDS MAY
STING, BUT THE CANADIANS ARE
BRUSHING IT OFF.
A SENIOR OFFICIAL TELLS CBC NEWS
THEY SEE THE COMMENTS AS A
NEGOTIATING TACTIC AND NO
REQUEST WAS EVER MADE FOR A
ONE-ON-ONE MEETING WITH THE
PRESIDENT.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: WE CONTINUE TO HAVE
REGULAR CONVERSATIONS WHENEVER
NECESSARY, WHENEVER WE WANT TO.
>> Reporter: THE PRIME MINISTER
IS DOWNPLAYING ANY SUGGESTION
THAT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH TRUMP
IS DIFFICULT, ESPECIALLY AFTER
CAMERAS CAPTURED WHAT APPEARED
TO BE A SNUB AT THE U.N.
YESTERDAY, WITH THE PRESIDENT
NOT STANDING TO SHAKE JUSTIN
TRUDEAU'S HAND.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: HE WAS REREADING HIS
NOTES BEFORE THE SPEECH HE WAS
ABOUT TO GIVE.
IT WAS AN INTERACTION LIKE SO
MANY ARE IN THE U.N., QUICK BUT
CORDIAL.
>> Reporter: TRUDEAU SAID THAT
NAFTA TALKS WERE LIKELY TO TAKE
PLACE ON THE SIDELINES OF THE
U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY, BUT AFTER
TWO DAYS IN NEW YORK CITY, THERE
ARE NO SIGNS THE TRADING
PARTNERS ARE ANY CLOSER TO AN
AGREEMENT, EVEN THOUGH THE U.S.
HAS SET A DEADLINE TO GET A DEAL
DONE BY THE END OF THE MONTH.
CANADA'S AMBASSADOR TO THE U.S.
TOLD AN AUDIENCE IN TORONTO, HE
SEES A 50/50 CHANCE OF REACHING
THAT DEADLINE.
>> I THINK IT'S REALLY A
QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT THE
U.S. WANTS TO HAVE A DEAL.
>> Reporter: TRUMP APPEARS TO
WANT A DEAL, POSING HIS OWN
QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT
CANADA WANTS IN.
>> President Donald Trump: IT
WILL BE THE UNITED STATES AND
MEXICO.
CANADA WILL COME ALONG.
NOW, IF CANADA DOESN'T MAKE A
DEAL WITH US, WE'RE GOING TO
MAKE A MUCH BETTER DEAL.
>> Rosemary: THE CBC'S KATIE
SIMPSON JOINS US NOW FOR ANOTHER
TWIST IN THIS STORY.
DAYS AWAY FROM THE NAFTA
DEADLINE, WHAT DO WE THINK THE
COMMENTS WILL DO TO THE MOOD IN
THE NEGOTIATING ROOM?
>> Reporter: THESE DISCUSSIONS
ARE ALREADY UNCOMFORTABLY TENSE
AND VERY DIFFICULT, SO IT WILL
NOT HELP THINGS WHATSOEVER
BEHIND THE SCENES.
AND ANY TIME THERE'S AN
ESCALATION IN THE PUBLIC
RHETORIC LIKE THIS, IT MAKES IT
DIFFICULT FOR EITHER SIDE TO
REALLY BACK DOWN.
NEGOTIATORS FROM CANADA AND THE
U.S. ARE EXHAUSTED.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 13
MONTHS NOW.
AND THERE'S A SENTIMENT STARTING
TO BUILD IN OTTAWA THAT THERE IS
FRUSTRATION THAT THIS IS TAKING
SO LONG BECAUSE SO MANY OF THE
BIG BRAINS ON PARLIAMENT HILL,
SMARTEST MINDS IN GOVERNMENT,
THEY ARE FOCUSED SOLELY ON THIS
AND OTHER ISSUES THAT MIGHT NEED
SOME ATTENTION ARE NOT GETTING
THE ATTENTION THAT THEY
NECESSARILY NEED.
SO THERE'S RECOGNITION THEY WANT
THIS DONE SOON.
WHETHER THEY WILL MEET THAT
DEADLINE, UNCLEAR.
>> Rosemary: CBC'S KATIE SIMPSON
IN OTTAWA TONIGHT.
THANKS, KATIE.
>> Adrienne: SO MUCH TENSION
THERE, BUT CANADA AND NAFTA WERE
NOT MAIN TOPICS FOR THE
PRESIDENT.
HE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING
ABOUT THE STORM SURROUNDING HIS
EMBATTLED SUPREME COURT PICK,
BRETT KAVANAUGH.
NOW TOMORROW, KAVANAUGH AND
HIS FIRST ACCUSER, DR. CHRISTINE
BLASEY FORD, WILL TESTIFY BEFORE
THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE,
EVEN AS THE NUMBER OF SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT ALLEGATIONS AGAINST
HIM GROWS.
THAT'S WHERE PAUL HUNTER TRIES
TO PICK UP THE THREAD.
>> Reporter: SHIELDED FROM VIEW
ALMOST BY A SECURITY GUARD'S
UMBRELLA, BRETT KAVANAUGH HEARD
FROM NUMBER THREE, A THIRD WOMAN
ACCUSING HIM OF SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT IN DECADES PAST.
JULIE SWETNICK'S TALE MADE
PUBLIC TODAY IS VIVID, SPECIFIC
AND HORRIFYING.
IN A SWORN AFFIDAVIT SHE SAYS
THAT AT MULTIPLE HOUSE PARTIES
NEAR WASHINGTON IN THE EARLY
'80s SHE --
>> Reporter: DRINKS WERE SPIKED,
SHE SAID, SO GIRLS WOULDN'T SAY
NO.
THE BOYS "LINED UP OUTSIDE ROOMS
WAITING FOR THEIR TURN WITH A
GIRL.
THESE BOYS INCLUDED BRETT
KAVANAUGH."
SWETNICK FOLLOWS TWO OTHERS
TELLING TALES OF MISCONDUCT IN
KAVANAUGH'S PAST.
CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD SAID HE
SEXUALLY ASSAULTED HER AT A
DRUNKEN PARTY IN 1982.
DEBORAH RAMIREZ SAID HE EXPOSED
HIMSELF AND FORCED SEXUAL
CONDUCT ON HER IN '83 OR '84.
TRUMP CALLED IT A DISGRACE AND A
CON JOB.
>> Reporter: ARE ALL THREE WOMEN
LYING?
>> President Donald Trump:
WHAT'S YOUR NEXT QUESTION?
>> Reporter: OTHER REPUBLICANS
WENT FURTHER.
>> IF YOU WENT TO A PARTY ONCE
WHERE PEOPLE ARE GETTING DRUGGED
AND GANG RAPED, YOU WOULDN'T GO
TO THE NEXT NINE.
YOU WOULD TELL SOMEBODY.
YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION IF YOU
SEE PEOPLE BEING ABUSED TO COME
FORWARD AND SAY SOMETHING ABOUT
IT, IF NOT FOR YOURSELF, FOR
THEM.
SO I'M VERY SUSPICIOUS ABOUT
THIS.
>> Reporter: AS IT STANDS,
NEITHER SWETNICK OR RAMIREZ WILL
TESTIFY BEFORE U.S. SENATORS
ASSESSING KAVANAUGH'S WORTHINESS
FOR THE SUPREME COURT.
FORD WILL TESTIFY TOMORROW,
FOLLOWED BY KAVANAUGH, WHO
DENIES ALL OF IT.
TODAY HE SAID SWETNICK'S
ACCUSATION IS "FROM THE TWILIGHT
ZONE."
HE RELEASED HIS OPENING
STATEMENT FOR TOMORROW ON FORD'S
ALLEGATION.
>> President Donald Trump:
HOPEFULLY THIS WILL GO VERY WELL
ON THURSDAY.
>> Reporter: SAID TRUMP TONIGHT,
HE STILL BACKS KAVANAUGH.
BUT LIKE THE REST OF THE
COUNTRY, HE AWAITS TOMORROW'S
TESTIMONY.
>> President Donald Trump: IT'S
POSSIBLE I WILL HEAR THAT AND I
WILL SAY, HEY, I'M CHANGING MY
MIND.
THAT'S POSSIBLE.
>> Reporter: TONIGHT, ADRIENNE,
WORD THAT A FOURTH WOMAN AND
POSSIBLY A FIFTH HAS COME
FORWARD.
ON THE FOURTH, NBC NEWS IS
REPORTING A NIGHT IN 1998 WHEN
KAVANAUGH WAS IN HIS EARLY 30s
AFTER A NIGHT OF DRINKING AT A
BAR HERE IN D.C. SHOVING HER,
"VERY AGGRESSIVELY AND SEXUALLY
AGAINST A WALL."
SHE SAID SHE HAS WITNESSES,
INCLUDING HER DAUGHTER.
KAVANAUGH WAS REPORTEDLY ASKED
ABOUT THAT LATEST ALLEGATION BY
REPUBLICAN SENATORS YESTERDAY
AND HE DENIED IT.
>> Adrienne: YES, THE OFFICIAL
SENATE HEARING IS TOMORROW.
SO MUCH OF THIS PLAYING OUT
PUBLICLY.
MORE EMERGING ABOUT BRETT
KAVANAUGH, BUT CHRISTINE BLASEY
FORD IS ALSO GETTING HER
THOUGHTS OUT TONIGHT, IT SEEMS.
>> Reporter: INDEED.
THIS IS A COPY OF HER OPENING
STATEMENT TOMORROW.
IT'S MOSTLY STUFF THAT WE KNOW
ALREADY, BUT IN SUCCINCT, STARK,
UGLY TERMS.
SHE TALKS ABOUT THE NIGHT, THE
HIGH SCHOOL PARTY, WITH BRETT
KAVANAUGH, THE BOY WHO SEXUALLY
ASSAULTED ME.
SHE DESCRIBED THE ASSAULT, HOW
SHE FEARED FOR HER LIFE, HOW
IT'S HAUNTED HER, AND HOW SINCE
GOING PUBLIC WITH IT OUT OF A
SENSE OF CIVIC DUTY, SHE AND HER
FAMILY HAVE FACED DEATH THREATS.
SHE IS TERRIFIED.
TOMORROW FORD WILL SAY ALL OF
THAT AND MORE AND THEN TAKE
QUESTIONS.
ADRIENNE?
>> Adrienne: I KNOW YOU WILL BE
WATCHING.
THANKS VERY MUCH, PAUL.
FOR A SENSE OF HOW BIG A DEAL IT
COULD BE AND HOW IT COULD MIRROR
A SIMILAR HEARING ALMOST 30
YEARS AGO INVOLVING JUSTICE
CLARENCE THOMAS, TAKE A LOOK AT
THIS.
TWO LETTERS TO TWO WOMEN FROM
DIFFERENT ERAS.
ONE SIGNED BY 1,600 BLACK WOMEN
IN SUPPORT OF ANITA HILL, WHO
ACCUSED THOMAS OF SEXUAL
HARASSMENT BACK IN 1991, AND ONE
SIGNED BY 1,600 MEN IN SUPPORT
OF CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD POSTED
IN TODAY'S "NEW YORK TIMES."
BOTH WITH THE SAME MESSAGE -- WE
BELIEVE YOU.
WE'RE BEHIND YOU.
AND THOSE TWO LETTERS REINFORCE
A RUNNING THEME HERE THAT, YES,
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE
1991, BUT IT'S NOT EXACTLY A
WHOLE NEW DAY.
HERE'S A LOOK AT WHAT'S CHANGED
AND WHAT HASN'T.
WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM
JOURNALIST TIMOTHY PHELPS, WHO
HELPED BREAK THE ANITA
HILL-CLARENCE THOMAS STORY, WAY
BACK WHEN.
>> ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, THOMAS
TOLD ME GRAPHICALLY OF HIS OWN
SEXUAL PROWESS.
>> Adrienne: ANITA HILL FACED 14
SENATORS IN 1991.
ALL OF THEM MEN.
CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD WILL FACE
21 SENATORS THIS TIME, ALL BUT
FOUR OF THEM MEN.
AND THREE OF THOSE WHO
QUESTIONED ANITA HILL ALL THOSE
YEARS AGO WILL BE THERE AGAIN
TOMORROW, DEMOCRAT PATRICK
LEAHY, AND REPUBLICANS CHUCK
GRASSLEY, WHO IS CHAIRING IT,
AND ORRIN HATCH, WHO NOW, AS
THEN, IS SCEPTICAL.
>> WHY DID SHE WAIT 10 YEARS?
WHY DID SHE FOLLOW HIM TO THE
NEXT JOB?
I THINK IT'S A SMEAR.
THERE'S NO QUESTION IN MY MIND.
>> Adrienne: IN 1991 WHEN ALL
THOSE MEN GRILLED ANITA HILL
RELENTLESSLY, IT DREW FIERCE
CRITICISM THAT LINGERS TODAY.
THIS TIME, REPUBLICANS HAVE
CALLED IN A FEMALE OUTSIDE
COUNSEL, RACHEL MITCHELL, WHO
WILL LEAD THE QUESTIONING.
>> SHE CLEARLY WILL BE ABLE TO
ASK BOTH SIDES MORE KNOWLEDGABLE
QUESTIONS, MORE PERTINENT
QUESTIONS, REALLY THE RIDICULOUS
SET OF QUESTIONS WE HAD DURING
THE ANITA HILL HEARINGS.
>> Adrienne: IN ANITA HILL'S
DAY, SEXUAL MISCONDUCT WAS NOT
TALKED ABOUT THE WAY IT IS NOW
THE "ME TOO" MOVEMENT OF THIS
GENERATION HAS OVERWHELMINGLY
CHANGED THE CONVERSATION.
>> NOW THANKS TO ANITA HILL
COMING FORWARD, EVERYONE THAT
WORKS IN A LARGE COMPANY GOES
THROUGH SEXUAL HARASSMENT
TRAINING AND, OF COURSE, WE HAVE
THE "ME TOO" MOVEMENT THAT'S
REALLY HEIGHTENED THE AWARENESS
JUST IN THE LAST YEAR OVER THE
ISSUES OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.
>> Adrienne: AND TOMORROW'S
SENATE HEARING WITH TESTIMONY
FROM KAVANAUGH AND FORD IS
EXPECTED TO START AT ABOUT
10:00 A.M. EASTERN.
>> Andrew: HERE'S A LOOK AT WHAT
ELSE WE'RE WORKING ON TONIGHT.
EXPERTS SAY A SIMPLE METAL
BRACKET COULD MAKE ALL THE
DIFFERENCE IN SAVING A ROOF IN
THE PATH OF A TORNADO.
WE'LL PUT THE TECHNOLOGY TO A
TEST.
>> Adrienne: AND LATER, HER
LANDSCAPER WAS BRUCE MCARTHUR.
HER HOME THAT SHE HAD LIVED IN
ALL HER LIFE, SUDDENLY THE SCENE
OF A SERIAL KILLER
INVESTIGATION.
OUR EXCLUSIVE, IN-DEPTH
INTERVIEW AHEAD.
>> Rosemary: BUT FIRST, THE
POLITICAL DEBATE OVER WHERE A
CONVICTED CHILD KILLER IS
INCARCERATED.
THE KIDNAPPING OF 8-YEAR-OLD
TORI STAFFORD GRIPPED PEOPLE
ACROSS THE COUNTRY A DECADE AGO.
NOW THE TREATMENT OF ONE OF THE
PEOPLE THAT KILLED HER HAS
SEIZED THE POLITICAL OPPOSITION
IN OTTAWA.
SHE'S BEEN TRANSFERRED OUT OF
MAXIMUM SECURITY PRISON AND INTO
AN ABORIGINAL HEALING LODGE.
CATHERINE CULLEN HAS THE STORY.
>> Reporter: TORI STAFFORD'S
DEATH WAS HORRIFIC.
THE UGLY POLITICAL DEBATE ABOUT
HER KILLER HAS LEFT EVEN THE
POLITICIANS THEMSELVES
DISGUSTED.
>> THIS IS A TERRIBLE DECISION!
IT'S DESPICABLE!
>> YOU KNOW WHAT OFFENDED ME,
RALPH GOODALE CALLING THIS
HORRIFIC CRIME BAD PRACTICES.
WHERE IS THE ANALYSIS ON THAT?
THAT IS DISGUSTING TO CANADIANS.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: THE MEMBER OPPOSITE IS
PLAYING POLITICS WITH A TERRIBLE
TRAGEDY IS YET AGAIN AN EXAMPLE
OF THE DEPTH TO WHICH THE
MEMBERS OPEN CONTINUE TO STOOP.
>> THE CONSERVATIVES'
EXPLOITATION OF THIS LITTLE
GIRL'S DEATH IS SICKENING.
>> Reporter: THE DISAPPEARANCE
OF THE 8-YEAR-OLD WEARING A
HANNAH MONTANA T-SHIRT AND
BUTTERFLY EARRINGS CAPTURED THE
COUNTRY'S ATTENTION.
TERRI-LYNNE MCCLINTIC PLEADED
GUILTY TO FIRST-DEGREE MURDER.
STAFFORD'S FATHER SAID HE
RECENTLY LEARNED THAT SHE HAD
BEEN TRANSFERRED TO A HEALING
LODGE IN SASKATCHEWAN.
>> I WAS VERY UPSET.
VERY UPSET.
SHE'S GETTING IT BETTER IN THERE
THAN THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ON
OUR OWN STREETS AND THEY HAVEN'T
DONE ANYTHING WRONG.
>> Reporter: YESTERDAY PUBLIC
SAFETY MINISTER RALPH GOODALE
SEEMED TO SUPPORT THE DECISION
AND REFERRED TO IT AS "BAD
PRACTICES."
>> THESE WERE NOT BAD PRACTICES.
THESE WERE HORRIFIC CRIMES.
AND THEY DESERVE TO BE PUNISHED.
>> Reporter: IN A SHIFT, GOODALE
SAYS HE WANTS THE DECISION
REVIEWED BY OFFICIALS.
>> Reporter: DO YOU HAVE THE
AUTHORITY OR ABILITY TO REVERSE
THE DECISION?
>> NO, I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY
TO REVERSE THE DECISION.
I CAN ASK THE COMMISSIONER OF
THE CORRECTIONAL SERVICE OF
CANADA TO REVIEW, TO ENSURE,
THAT THE LAW AND PROPER
PROCEDURE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED.
>> Reporter: AS FOR THE
CONSERVATIVES, DON'T ACCEPT --
>> WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT AND THE
PRIME MINISTER NOT ASKING?
>> Reporter: THE LIBERALS
COUNTER IT WAS UNDER A
CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT THE
STATUS WAS REDUCED TO MEDIUM.
STILL, IT'S THE TRANSFER TO THIS
FACILITY THAT SEEMS TO BE
PROVOKING SO MUCH ANGER.
THE LOCAL FIRST NATION'S CHIEF
SAID THAT HE HOPES THAT
MCCLINTIC IS A CHANGED PERSON.
>> THERE IS NO FENCE AROUND THE
INSTITUTION ITSELF.
WE HAVE TO TRUST THE DECISION ON
CORRECTIONS CANADA.
IT'S ON THEM.
>> Reporter: AND NOW A CHOICE
BEING PROFOUNDLY SCRUTINIZED.
CATHERINE CULLEN, CBC NEWS,
OTTAWA.
>> Andrew: HYDRO OTTAWA SAID IT
HAS FINALLY RESTORED POWER TO
EVERYONE AFTER SIX TORNADOES HIT
THE OTTAWA-GATINEAU AREA LAST
WEEK, BUT OFFICIALS WARN IT
COULD BE WEEKS BEFORE SOME
PEOPLE CAN RETURN HOME.
>> WE'RE IN A HOTEL NOW AND
WE'VE ARRANGED FOR AN APARTMENT
FOR INDEFINITE WHILE WE'RE
WAITING.
>> Andrew: SO THAT'S ONE OF THE
HUNDREDS FORCED TO FIND
SOMEWHERE TO STAY WHILE CITY
WORKERS CONTINUE TO TRY TO CLEAR
THE DEBRIS.
DAMAGES ARE EXPECTED TO BE IN
THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS AND RELIEF
ORGANISATIONS, SALVATION ARMY,
CANADIAN RED CROSS AMONG THEM,
COMING TOGETHER UNDER A COMMON
BANNER TO TRY TO HELP VICTIMS
THROUGH THIS.
IT'S HARD TO KNOW IF ANYTHING
COULD HAVE HELPED TO REDUCE THE
DAMAGE, BUT CANADIAN RESEARCHERS
ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
PREVENT DESTRUCTION IN THE
FUTURE.
AS JACQUELINE HANSON EXPLAINS,
ONE SMALL PIECE OF METAL COULD
BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.
>> Reporter: THE METAL BRACKETS
KNOWN AS HURRICANE CLIPS ARE ONE
LINE OF DEFENCE AGAINST EXTREME
WEATHER THIS BUILDER BELIEVES
IN.
>> AS YOU CAN TELL, IT'S FAIRLY
WINDY TODAY.
IT GETS WINDY HERE.
>> Reporter: ABOUT 50 HURRICANE
CLIPS CAN HELP TO PREVENT A ROOF
FROM FLYING OFF, BY INDIVIDUALLY
SECURING EACH TO THE TOP OF THE
WALL.
IT SEEMS LIKE A
SMALL PIECE TO PROTECT AN ENTIRE
ROOF.
>> IT'S VERY SMALL, BUT AS YOU
CAN FEEL, IT'S VERY RIGID.
>> Reporter: EACH CLIP COSTS $1
PLUS LABOUR, BUT REBATES COVER
THAT IN THIS COUNTY TO ENCOURAGE
BUILDERS TO USE THEM.
THE CLIPS ARE NOT REQUIRED IN
THE BUILDING CODES ANYWHERE IN
CANADA.
>> WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHEN
--
>> REPORTER: ENGINEERING
PROFESSOR GREG KOPP WANTS
HURRICANE CLIPS TO BE MANDATORY,
TO MAKE HOMES MORE RESILIENT TO
TORNADOES, LIKE THOSE LAST WEEK
IN THE OTTAWA-GATINEAU AREA.
>> ONE OF THE WEAKEST LINKS TO A
HOUSE UNDER SEVERE WINDSTORM IS
THE WHOLE ROOF COMING OFF.
>> Reporter: TESTS IN A
HIGH-TECH WIND TUNNEL USING MINI
MODEL HOMES HAVE HELPED KOPP
DETERMINE THAT A ROOF WITH
HURRICANE CLIPS IS TWICE AS
STRONG.
>> THE HURRICANE STRAPS WILL
WORK FOR EF-2 TORNADOES, MAYBE
EF-3, LIKE WE HAD IN DUNROBIN
THIS LAST WEEK.
>> Reporter: THE ONTARIO
HOMEBUILDER ASSOCIATION SAID
THAT NAIL PATTERNS, ALREADY
REQUIRED BY THE BUILDING CODE,
ARE ENOUGH.
>> IT'S THE MINIMUM STANDARD
ACROSS ONTARIO.
IT'S ABOUT ADDING TO THE CODE
THAT BENEFITS EVERYONE.
>> WE DO MANY THINGS BEYOND CODE
REQUIREMENTS WHEN WE BUILD
HOMES.
>> Reporter: FOR NOW, IT'S UP TO
THE HOME BUILDERS TO DECIDE
WHETHER TO INSTALL HURRICANE
CLIPS OR NOT.
JACQUELINE HANSON, CBC NEWS,
NEAR ORANGEVILLE, ONTARIO.
>> Andrew: OK.
LET'S GET YOU UP TO SPEED ON
OTHER DEVELOPING STORIES WE'RE
TRACKING LIVE TONIGHT.
CANADA'S COMPETITION BUREAU
LAUNCHING AN INVESTIGATION INTO
TICKETMASTER.
>> I REACHED OUT TO THE
COMPETITION BUREAU TO EXPRESS
THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FAIRNESS
AND TRANSPARENCY WHEN IT COMES
TO CONSUMERS.
>> Andrew: ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
MINISTER NAVDEEP BAINS TODAY
AFTER A CBC-TORONTO STAR
INVESTIGATION REVEALED THAT
TICKETMASTER IS WORKING WITH
SCALPERS TO RESELL MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN TICKETS.
ON TOP OF THE COMPETITION BUREAU
INVESTIGATION, TICKETMASTER ALSO
FACES A $250 MILLION
CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT.
IT WAS FILED ON BEHALF OF
CANADIAN TICKET BUYERS.
TICKETMASTER HAS NOT YET
RESPONDED TO REQUESTS FOR
COMMENT.
>> WHAT CANADIANS SHOULD KNOW,
VULNERABLE ESPECIALLY, IS THAT
THERE IS AT LEAST ONE VERY
SIGNIFICANT INVESTIGATIVE
OPERATION UNDERWAY AT THE
MOMENT.
>> Andrew: OTTAWA SAID THEY'RE
MAKING A MOVE TO CRACK DOWN ON
PHONE SCAMMERS POSING AS AGENTS
WITH THE CANADA REVENUE AGENCY.
THE MINISTER'S COMMENTS FOLLOW A
CBC INVESTIGATION THAT RAISED
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE RCMP
WAS DOING IN RESPONSE.
MORE THAN 60,000 CANADIANS HAVE
COMPLAINED AND $10 MILLION HAS
BEEN STOLEN.
>> Rosemary: AHEAD TONIGHT,
VOTERS IN NEW MEXICO ARE POISED
TO MAKE HISTORY.
WE'LL LOOK AT THE POWER OF THE
NATIVE-AMERICAN VOTE COMING UP.
>> Andrew: THEY DELIVER CRUCIAL
INFORMATION IN THE U.S., SO WHY
ARE SIGN LANGUAGE INTERPRETERS
NOT USED MORE OFTEN HERE IN
CANADA?
>> Adrienne: POLICE SAY BRUCE
MCARTHUR'S VICTIMS WERE BURIED
ON HER PROPERTY.
WHAT IT'S LIKE WHEN YOUR HOME
BECOMES WITHIN OF THE COUNTRY'S
MOST NOTORIOUS CRIME SCENES.
>> WE DIDN'T THINK THEY WOULD
FIND ANYTHING AND, OF COURSE,
THEY DID WITHIN HOURS.
I GUESS OUR BRAIN SAYS, THEY ARE
FINE NOW, BUT IT JUST KEPT
MOVING.
MORE HAPPENED.
>> Andrew: OVER THE PAST FEW
YEARS, CANADA HAS BEEN HIT BY
ONE NATURAL DISASTER AFTER
ANOTHER.
EACH TIME, EMERGENCY OFFICIALS
SCRAMBLE TO GET POTENTIALLY
LIFE-SAVING INFORMATION OUT TO
THE PUBLIC.
FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DEAF OR HARD
OF HEARING, IT WASN'T AS
ACCESSIBLE AS IT COULD HAVE
BEEN.
CAKAS ROUSSY HAS MORE ON WHY
SIGNING CAN HELP TO TELL THE
STORY.
SHE'S JOINED BY SIGN LANGUAGE
INTERPRETER.
>> Reporter: WHEN HURRICANE
FLORENCE CAME BARRELING DOWN THE
CAROLINAS ON THE U.S. COAST,
EMERGENCY SERVICES WERE AT THE
READY.
>> POWERFUL RAIN BANDS MAY
PRODUCE ANOTHER 15 TO 20 INCHES
OR MORE.
>> Reporter: FEDERAL AGENCIES
DISPENSED VALUABLE AND
POTENTIALLY LIFE-SAVING
INFORMATION ON EMERGENCY
PREPAREDNESS DURING TELEVISION
BRIEFINGS.
EVERY WORD WAS INTERPRETED IN
AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE, A.S.L.
BUT THE SAME CANNOT BE SAID IN
CANADA.
WHETHER IT'S LAST WEEK'S TORNADO
IN OTTAWA OR A VAN ATTACK IN
TORONTO, TELEVISED BRIEFINGS
ALERTING THE PUBLIC ABOUT
DETAILS OF THE EMERGENCIES DID
NOT INCLUDE INTERPRETERS.
>> WELCOME, EVERYONE, TO THE
FIRST DEAF POLITICAL RALLY.
>> Reporter: IT'S A LONG-HELD
GRIEVANCE WITH GROUPS
REPRESENTING THE 300,000
CANADIANS WHO ARE DEAF.
SIGNING IS THE PREFERRED
LANGUAGE.
>> ISN'T CLOSED CAPTIONING
ENOUGH?
>> IF YOU WANT TO MAXIMIZE
ACCESSIBILITY AND GET THE
INFORMATION OUT THERE, PROVIDE
IT TO A LARGER AUDIENCE WITH
CAPTIONS AS WELL AS INTERPRETING
SERVICES.
>> Reporter: PROFESSOR DEBRA
RUSSELL'S RESEARCH IN THE FIELD
OF INTERPRETATION SPANS 30
YEARS.
>> THERE ISN'T AN AWARENESS,
PERHAPS, ON THE PART OF
BROADCASTERS AROUND THE
IMPORTANCE OF ACCESSIBILITY FOR
DEAF AND HARD OF HEARING PEOPLE.
>> A REPORT ON ACCESSIBLE
EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION THAT
RUSSELL CO-AUTHORED CALLS THE
ABSENCE OF INTERPRETERS DURING
TELEVISED BROADCASTS OF
DISASTERS MIND-BOGGLING.
SO WHY ISN'T IT DONE?
NEW ACCESSIBILITY LEGISLATION IS
MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH
PARLIAMENT, BUT IT MAY TAKE TIME
TO PASS.
INTERPRETERS HAVE BEEN USED, BUT
IT'S INCONSISTENT AND NOBODY
SEEMS TO BE IN CHARGE.
LIFE-THREATENING DISASTERS, LIKE
THE FOREST FIRES IN FORT
MCMURRAY, ALBERTA, UNDERSCORE
THE NEED TO GET INFORMATION OUT
QUICKLY AND TO ALL PEOPLE.
>> THE EARLIER WE GET ACCESS,
THE EARLIER WE CAN EVACUATE AND
THEREFORE REDUCING OUR RISK.
>> A KIND OF RISK THAT COULD BE
PREVENTED WITH BETTER TRAINING
FOR EMERGENCY WORKERS AND
STANDARD PRACTICE OF USING
INTERPRETERS DURING ANY CRISIS.
KAS ROUSSY, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL," HER GARDENER IS AN
ACCUSED SERIAL KILLER.
HER HOME THE SCENE OF GRUESOME
DISCOVERIES.
AN EXCLUSIVE, IN-DEPTH INTERVIEW
WITH THE WOMAN WHOSE PROPERTY IS
AT THE CENTRE OF THE BRUCE
MCARTHUR INVESTIGATION, NEXT.
>> WHY WOULD WE LET AN EVIL
PERSON PICK OUR LIFE APART?
UNACCEPTABLE.
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> Adrienne: ALLEGED SERIAL
KILLER BRUCE MCARTHUR MADE A
BRIEF VIDEO APPEARANCE, AS
HIS CASE MAKES ITS WAY
THROUGH THE JUSTICE SYSTEM.
MCARTHUR ACCUSED OF KILLING
EIGHT MEN, MANY OF WHOM HAD TIES
TO TORONTO'S GAY VILLAGE.
WE GO IN DEPTH ON A PART OF THE
STORY THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVEN'T
HEARD.
THE HOUSE AT THE CENTER OF THE
INVESTIGATION AND THE PEOPLE
WHO LIVE IN IT.
THE ADDRESS ON TORONTO'S MALLORY
CRESCENT WHERE MCARTHUR WORKED
AS A LANDSCAPER HAS BECOME
SYNONYMOUS WITH THE HORROR OF
THE STORY.
IT WAS MID JANUARY WHEN POLICE
ARRIVED, GIVING THE OWNER KAREN
FRASER AND HER PARTNER, RON
SMITH, 20 MINUTES TO PACK UP AND
LEAVE.
A WEEK LATER, POLICE ANNOUNCED
THEY'RE FIRST DISCOVERY.
THE REMAINS OF THREE PEOPLE IN
THE LARGE PLANTERS SEIZED FROM
THE PROPERTY.
POLICE SPENT WEEKS THAWING THE
FROZEN GROUND AND DIGGING UP THE
BACKYARD.
BY SPRING, FOUR MORE VICTIMS
WERE IDENTIFIED FROM THE REMAINS
FOUND IN THOSE PLANTERS.
THE FINAL DISCOVERY CAME IN JULY
AFTER CANINE UNITS LED POLICE TO
RAVINE BEHIND THE MALLORY
CRESCENT HOME AND THE EIGHTH
VICTIM WAS IDENTIFIED.
THROUGHOUT ALL OF THESE TERRIBLE
TWISTS AND TURNS, OUR IOANNA
ROUMELIOTIS HAS STAYED IN TOUCH
WITH KAREN FRASER.
TONIGHT, IN A TELEVISION
EXCLUSIVE, SHE TELLS HER STORY.
>> SO THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN THE
'50s.
AND MY FATHER OWNED IT WAS A
RENTAL FOR A LONG TIME.
THEN I BOUGHT IT FROM HIS
ESTATE.
THIS IS WHERE THE POLICE WERE
MOST OF THE TIME.
THERE'S NEW GRASS BECAUSE THAT'S
WHERE THE TENT WAS FOR THE
FORENSIC.
>> Reporter: THE POLICE ARE GONE
AND SO IS THE EVIDENCE.
KAREN FRASER IS NOW LEFT TO
IMAGINE.
>> THEY BASICALLY HAD TO DO THE
WHOLE YARD.
THE DOGS INDICATED THERE WERE
PROBLEMS.
>> Reporter: PROBLEMS IN TERMS
OF --
>> THERE WERE THINGS.
ITEMS OF INTEREST IS A NICE,
SAFE PHRASE, ISN'T IT?
>> Reporter: FOR MONTHS, KAREN'S
HOME WAS A CRIME SCENE.
HER LIFE TRAPPED IN A HORROR
STORY THAT WOULDN'T END, AS
POLICE FOUND THE BODY PARTS OF
ONE VICTIM AFTER ANOTHER.
>> THE POLICE REPELLED DOWN
THERE.
AND THESE ARE THE SHOTS THAT
EVERYONE SAW OF THEM DIGGING
THIS OUT.
>> Reporter: THE LAST OF THE
REMAINS WERE FOUND DUMPED BACK
HERE THIS PAST JULY.
>> WE THOUGHT IT WAS OVER.
THAT THEY WERE JUST COMING HERE
TO BE THOROUGH, OF COURSE.
AND WE DIDN'T THINK THEY WOULD
FIND ANYTHING.
AND, OF COURSE, THEY DID WITHIN
HOURS.
I GUESS OUR BRAINS KEPT SAYING,
THEY'RE DONE.
BUT IT JUST KEPT MOVING, MORE
HAPPENED.
YEAH, IT WAS HARDER.
IT WAS A VERY ODD TIME.
>> Reporter: THE FRAGMENTS OF
THE STORY ARE NIGHTMARISH AND
KAREN STRUGGLES TO PIECE THEM
TOGETHER.
BRUCE MCARTHUR, THE MAN ACCUSED
OF MURDERING EIGHT MEN, WAS HER
GARDENER FOR A DECADE.
>> WE STILL HAVE TROUBLE PUTTING
THE MAN WE KNEW TOGETHER WITH
THIS ALLEGED SERIAL KILLER.
AND, NO, THERES WITH NEVER A
HINT.
NO TEMPER.
NOTHING.
NOTHING WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AND
SAY, I'M STUPID.
THERE IT WAS.
I SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT.
NOTHING.
>> WELCOME TO TODAY'S DISCUSSION
ABOUT MEDIA COVERAGE OF THE
BRUCE MCARTHUR CASE.
>> Reporter: YET THERE'S BEEN SO
MUCH CURIOSITY, ESPECIALLY BY
THE MEDIA, FASCINATED BY A
MURDER INVESTIGATION SO VILE IT
SHOCKED EVEN THE MOST VETERAN
DETECTIVES.
>> THE MEDIA WERE BUGGING ME TO
GIVE OUR PERSONAL STORY.
>> Reporter: KAREN HAD COME HERE
TWICE NOW TO SPEAK TO JOURNALISM
STUDENTS AT TORONTO'S RYERSON
UNIVERSITY.
>> WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT HAD
HAPPENED.
WE SAT FOR ABOUT FOUR HOURS IN A
VERY COLD POLICE STATION WAITING
TO BE QUESTIONED.
>> Reporter: SHE WANTS THEM TO
KNOW HOW POWERLESS SHE FELT,
LOSING CONTROL OF HER STORY AND
ONLY NOW GETTING IT BACK.
>> IT'S A BIT STRANGE.
WHEN YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF
IT, YOU DON'T REALISE HOW BIG
THE STORY IS.
TALKING TO THE PEOPLE THAT WILL
BE COVERING STORIES -- HOPEFULLY
NOT LIKE THIS ONE -- IT'S PART
OF MAKING IT BETTER.
>> Reporter: KAREN HAS NEVER HAD
MEDIA BACK HERE AND THIS IS HER
FIRST TELEVISION INTERVIEW.
QUESTIONS STILL OVERWHELM HER.
HOW DID YOU DEAL WITH IT?
HOW DID YOU DEAL WITH THE
INFORMATION OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED
IN YOUR HOME OR OUTSIDE YOUR
HOME?
>> A LOT OF IT, I REALLY HAVE
LOCKED IN A CUPBOARD IN THE BACK
OF MY MIND.
AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, IT
MUST BE AN OLD CUPBOARD, BECAUSE
THE DOOR POPS OPEN ON ITS OWN
AND BITS OF IT TRY TO COME OUT.
I'M NOT READY SEE THEM YET, SO I
SHUT THE DOOR.
IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S WEIGHING ON
ME, BUT IT HAS TO BE PROCESSED.
AND WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING
YET.
I THINK WHEN I THINK I KNOW
EVERYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
OR WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO BE
ABLE TO KNOW, THEN I'LL LOOK AT
ALL OF IT.
I WOULD THINK.
>> Reporter: THAT REFUSAL IS A
FORM OF PROTECTION, WHILE SHE
RECLAIMS HER STORY WITH HELP.
CHURCH VOLUNTEERS PLANTED
FLOWERS IN HER BACKYARD.
THE GARAGE, WHERE POLICE FOUND
PLANTERS WITH HUMAN REMAINS,
PAINTED OVER WITH A QUOTE
HONORING KINDNESS.
SHE AND HER PARTNER, RON SMITH,
WERE FORCED OUT OF THEIR HOME
FOR WEEKS WHILE POLICE SCOURED
THE PROPERTY.
HOW MUCH DID YOU RELY ON THE
KINDNESS OF YOUR NEIGHBOURS?
>> ONE MILLION PERCENT.
>> THEY SAW US THROUGH,
LITERALLY.
>> WE HAD NO WORK.
WE HAD NO HOUSE.
>> WHATEVER DOESN'T BREAK YOU
MAKES YOU STRONGER.
WE THINK IT'S REALLY
STRENGTHENED RELATIONS IN THE
COMMUNITY, WHICH IS PARTICULARLY
GOOD.
EVERY NOW AND THEN, A LITTLE
GOOD CAN COME OUT OF SOMETHING
REALLY BAD.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO
KEEP IN MIND.
>> Reporter: THEY SEEM SO
RESOLUTE, BUT HAUNTED, TOO.
ON THE PORCH, A CANDLE BURNS
FOR THE VICTIMS, A REMINDER,
THIS IS NOT JUST A CRIME SCENE.
IT WAS ALSO A GRAVEYARD.
>> IT'S APPALLING.
MY ONLY BAD MOMENTS IS WHEN MY
MIND WANDERS TO THE LAST FEW
MINUTES OF THE VICTIMS.
I CAN BARELY STAND TO HAVE THAT
DRIFTING IN MY MIND.
SO I TAKE THAT AND PUT IT IN A
BOX, SHOVE CONTINUE THE CUPBOARD
AND SHUT THE DOOR AGAIN.
>> Reporter: IT'S CLEAR, SHE'S
NOT READY TO UNLEASH IT ALL AND
YET SHE WON'T LEAVE IT ALL
EITHER.
HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF LEAVING?
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY NOT, NO.
IT'S OURS.
WE LOVE IT.
WE HAVE A GREAT TIME.
WHY WOULD WE LET AN EVIL PERSON
TAKE OUR LIFE APART?
UNACCEPTABLE.
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> Reporter: DO YOU GET ANGRY
WHEN YOU THINK OF HIM?
>> NO.
SAD.
JUST SAD.
>> Reporter: SAD WHY?
>> HE SEEMED TO HAVE A GOOD
LIFE.
WHERE ON EARTH DID THESE DEMONS
COME FROM?
AND WHY WOULD YOU KEEP GOING?
IT'S JUST BEYOND ME.
>> Adrienne: IOANNA ROUMELIOTIS
IS HERE.
YOU CAN HEAR HER SAY THAT SHE
WANTS TO STAY.
I IMAGINE PEOPLE AT HOME ARE
THINKING, HOW CAN SHE POSSIBLY
STAY?
>> Reporter: IT'S HER HOME AND
HAS BEEN FOR DECADES AND SHE
REFUSES TO, AS SHE SAYS, EVIL
CONTROL HER LIFE.
ONCE THE POLICE LEFT, WAS ABOUT
RECLAIMING HER HOME.
THEY PAINTED THE GARAGE AND
THEY'RE HOSTING WHAT THEY CALL A
CLEANSING CEREMONY.
THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT STEP,
SHE SAYS.
THEY'RE BRINGING RELIGIOUS
LEADERS, PEOPLE FROM THE
COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORTED THEM
THIS WHOLE TIME, AND KAREN
FRASER SAID IT'S ALL ABOUT
CHANGING THE ENERGY OF HER HOME.
>> WE JUST THOUGHT IF WE HAD
SEVERAL PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT
CHRISTIAN, MUSLIM POINTS OF VIEW
COMING IN.
AND CLEANING THE SPIRIT OF IT.
IT'S A CONTINUATION OF CLEANING
THE GARAGE AND THAT REALLY
WORKED.
>> Adrienne: I KNOW YOU'VE SPENT
A LOT OF TIME WITH KAREN.
WHAT IS YOUR GUT ABOUT HOW SHE'S
COPING?
>> Reporter: SHE'S HONEST SAYING
THAT SHE'S NOT.
SHE'S NOT DWELLING ON THIS VERY
HORRIFIC REALITY THAT UNFOLDED
IN HER BACKYARD.
WHILE SHE'S PUTTING ONE FOOT
FORWARD, AND REALLY, YOU GET
THAT SENSE WHEN YOU MEET HER IN
THE PIECE, THAT SHE'S VERY
STOIC.
RIGHT NOW, SHE'S NOT AT A PLACE
WHERE SHE WANTS TO DWELL ON WHAT
HAPPENED.
IT'S ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.
AT THE SAME TIME, CLOSING --
PUTTING UP THE FENCES.
ONE OF THE WORST THINGS SHE SAID
IS WHAT SHE CALLS THE TOURISTS,
THE GAWKERS, THAT COME BY HER
HOUSE, SO MANY COME BY EVERY
DAY.
SHE HOPES THAT THAT WILL
EVENTUALLY FADE AND AT THE SAME
TIME, THE STORY IS TO THE OVER
YET.
SHE'S HEARD THAT SOME OF THE
VICTIMS' FAMILIES WANT TO COME
AND VISIT HER PROPERTY BECAUSE
THAT'S WHERE THEIR LOVED ONES
WERE.
SHE'S OPEN TO THAT.
AT SOME POINT, SHE HOPES THAT
THE FENCES WILL GO UP, PEOPLE
WILL LEAVE AND SHE CAN LIVE AWAY
FROM THE SPOTLIGHT.
>> Adrienne: BUT IN THE MOMENT,
BLOCKING FOR NOW.
IOANNA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> Reporter: YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> Andrew: COMING UP, THIS COULD
BE AN HISTORIC ELECTION FOR
NATIVE-AMERICANS.
WE'LL LOOK AT HOW THE INDIGENOUS
VOTERS COULD INFLUENCE THE
RESULTS WITH THE CANDIDATE
HOPING TO BECOME THE FIRST
NATIVE-AMERICAN WOMAN ELECTED TO
CONGRESS.
>> YES, IT HAS TAKEN ENTIRELY
TOO LONG.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT FOR LACK OF
TRYING.
MAYBE THERE IS SOME SEXISM
INVOLVED.
>> Rosemary: FIRST, THOUGH, A
PREVIEW OF AN INTERVIEW THAT YOU
WILL SEE ON SUNDAY NIGHT.
MARK CRITCH, STAR OF "22
MINUTES," PROUD NEWFOUNDLANDER
AND AUTHOR OF A NEW MEMOIR, I
MET UP WITH HIM IN HIS HOME CITY
ON THE ROCK.
I ALMOST DIDN'T COME BACK.
TAKE A LOOK.
I THINK IT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU
GOT A LAUGH THAT YOU HAD TO DO
THE INTRODUCTION AT A PLAY.
>> MY FIRST LAUGH WAS, I WAS
PLAYING THE COLOUR YELLOW AT THE
BIG SHOW AT THE SCHOOL CONCERT.
AND ARCHBISHOP WAS THERE.
VERY BIG DEAL.
I WAS SAYING, ARCHBISHOP,
BISHOP, PARENTS, FRIENDS AND
PUPILS, BUT I HAD NEVER SEEN
THAT WORD.
SO I SAID POOP-ILS AND THEY
WOULD LAUGH.
POO-PILS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO I'M GETTING THIS LAUGH.
[LAUGHTER]
AND MY MOM HAULING ME OFF.
AND I'M FEELING LIKE, IS THE
BISHOP GOING TO, HE GETS IT.
HE LOVES ME.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
>> WE DID AN EXERCISE OF LOOKING
AT A BIT OF THE PLATFORM OF THE
GREEN PARTY AND OURS AND DID A
COMPARISON AND WE FEEL THERE ARE
A LOT OF PRINCIPLES, VALUES AND
CERTAINLY VERY SPECIFIC POLICY
MEASURES THAT MATCH UP.
>> Andrew: TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL," A PROPOSAL FROM
LIBERAL LEADER BRIAN GALLANT
TODAY.
REACHING OUT TO THE GREENS,
SEEKING AN ALLIANCE TO KEEP THE
LIBERALS IN POWER.
NO PARTY WON A MAJORITY IN
MONDAY'S PROVINCIAL ELECTION.
THE LIBERALS DIDN'T EVEN WIN THE
MOST SEATS, BUT COMBINED WITH
THE GREENS, THEY WOULD HAVE MORE
THAN THE PROGRESSIVE
CONSERVATIVES.
>> WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC
HEALTH, PUBLIC SAFETY AND
PROTECTING YOU, OUR GOVERNMENT
WILL NEVER COMPROMISE ON OUR
COMMITMENT TO YOU.
>> Andrew: NEW DETAILS TONIGHT
ON WHAT ONTARIO'S MARIJUANA
MARKET WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN POT
BECOMES LEGAL OCTOBER 17.
IN A BILL SET TO BE INTRODUCED
TOMORROW, THE GOVERNMENT WILL
NOT PUT A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF
RETAIL STORES ALLOWED TO OPERATE
IN THE PROVINCE, BUT THERE WILL
BE A CAP ON THE NUMBER THAT A
SINGLE COMPANY CAN OPERATE.
ANOTHER KEY POINT --
ANY COMPANY OPERATING ILLEGALLY
AS OF OCTOBER 17, WILL BE
BLOCKED FROM GETTING A LICENCE.
>>> THERE ARE REPORTS THAT ONE
OF THE SALISBURY POISONING
SUSPECTS IS NOT WHO HE SAYS HE
IS.
TWO ON-LINE INVESTIGATIVE WEB
SITES HAVE IDENTIFIED THIS MAN
AS A HIGHLY DECORATED OFFICER IN
RUSSIA'S MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
SERVICE.
THAT DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS
PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN'S CLAIM
THAT BOTH MEN ARE CIVILIANS.
THEY'RE WANTED IN THE U.K. OVER
THE NERVE AGENT ATTACKS ON
FORMER RUSSIAN SPY SERGEI
SKRIPAL AND HIS DAUGHTER.
>> Rosemary: LET'S TURN TO THE
UPCOMING MID TERM ELECTIONS
SOUTH OF THE BORDER.
WHEN DEB HAALAND WON IN THE
PRIMARY, SHE DESCRIBED IT AS A
VICTORY FOR WOMEN AND FOR
WORKING CLASS, BUT IT COULD ALSO
SIGNAL AN IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD
FOR INDIGENOUS PEOPLE IN THE
UNITED STATES.
IF SHE WINS THIS NOVEMBER, SHE
WOULD BE THE FIRST INDIGENOUS
CONGRESSWOMAN EVER, A FACT NOT
LOST ON A POPULATION THAT'S
UNDERREPRESENTED AT THE HIGHEST
LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.
THE CBC'S KIM BRUNHUBER TALKED
TO PEOPLE ABOUT THE IMPACT HER
CAMPAIGN IS HAVING IN TONIGHT'S
"DISPATCH" FROM NEW MEXICO.
>> Reporter: THE PUEBLOS OF NEW
MEXICO, IN THIS COMMUNITY,
TRADITION IS BAKED INTO THE
LANDSCAPE, WHICH IS WHY A
STRANGER ADMIRING THESE OUTDOOR
OVENS IS USHERED INSIDE TO TASTE
THE BREAD.
WITH THE MID-TERMS FAST
APPROACHING, IT DOESN'T TAKE
LONG UNTIL RAYMOND AGUILAR IS
TALKING POLITICS.
>> YOU CAN BLEEP ME OUT ALL YOU
WANT.
[LAUGHTER]
IT'S A STRUGGLE WITH TRUMP, YOU
KNOW.
>> Reporter: NO MATTER WHO IS
PRESIDENT, DISTRUST OF THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RUNS DEEP.
THE UNITED STATES DIDN'T GRANT
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO
VOTE IN FEDERAL ELECTIONS UNTIL
1924.
FOR MANY INDIGENOUS NEW
MEXICANS, VOTING IS NOT ALWAYS A
PRIORITY, BUT THIS YEAR COULD BE
DIFFERENT.
THIS YEAR MANY IN AND AROUND
ALBUQUERQUE, LIKE THE AGUILARS,
WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR ONE OF
THEIR OWN.
>> I THINK IT WILL MAKE A LOT OF
DIFFERENCE.
IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE
ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR, JUST HER
IN OFFICE.
>> Reporter: IN A GAZEBO IN A
PARK, A POLITICAL POTLUCK.
NOTHING UNUSUAL HERE, EXCEPT THE
CANDIDATE.
>> NICE TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU.
>> Reporter: IN JUNE, DEB
HAALAND BEAT FIVE OTHER
CANDIDATES TO WIN THE DEMOCRATIC
NOMINATION FOR NEW MEXICO'S
FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
>> I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I
AM WHO I AM.
I'M WHO I AM.
>> Reporter: 35TH GENERATION NEW
MEXICAN FROM THE PUEBLO OF
LAGUNA, WEST OF ALBUQUERQUE.
THE LONG TIME DEMOCRATIC
ORGANISER SAID SHE WOKE UP ONE
DAY AFTER THE 2016 ELECTION
EXPECTS TO SEE THE FIRST WOMAN
PRESIDENT.
WHEN THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, SHE GOT
GOING.
>> I THINK THE ELECTION OF
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SOMETHING TO
DO WITH A LOT OF WOMEN BECOMING
ACTIVISTS AND FEELING LIKE THEY
WANT THEIR VOICE TO BE HEARD.
ONE WAY OF DOING THAT IS RUNNING
FOR OFFICE.
>> Reporter: IN THE U.S., THE
FIRST INDIGENOUS CONGRESSMAN WAS
ELECTED MORE THAN A CENTURY AGO.
SINCE THEN, PLENTY OF INDIGENOUS
WOMEN HAVE RUN, BUT INCREDIBLY,
IF HAALAND WINS, SHE WOULD BE
THE FIRST.
>> IT HAS TAKEN ENTIRELY TOO
LONG.
IT'S NOT FOR LACK OF TRYING.
MAYBE THERE IS SOME SEXISM
INVOLVED.
>> Reporter: NATIONALLY,
NATIVE-AMERICANS MAKE UP 2% OF
THE POPULATION, BUT THEIR VOTE
COULD SWING ELECTIONS IN A
HANDFUL OF STATES LIKE NEW
MEXICO, IN WHICH THE 23 TRIBES
MAKE UP 10% OF THE STATE'S
POPULATION.
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF CATCHING UP
TO DO AS US AS ACTIVISTS AND
ORGANISERS AND CANDIDATES, IT'S
OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO WORK HARD
IN THOSE UNDERREPRESENTED
COMMUNITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN BE
A PART OF THE PROCESS.
>> Reporter: AND HAALAND'S VERY
CANDIDACY COULD SWING RACES IN
WHICH SHE'S NOT EVEN RUNNING.
>> I'VE HAD A FEW NATIVE WOMEN
CALL UP AND SAY, THANK YOU,
I'M RUNNING BECAUSE YOU INSPIRED
ME.
>> Reporter: MARK TRAHANT IS
EDITOR OF "INDIAN COUNTRY
TODAY."
>> I'M BUILDING A GRAPHIC OF THE
10 NATIVE-AMERICAN CANDIDATES
FOR CONGRESS.
>> Reporter: HE'S BEEN TRACKING
THE INDIGENOUS CANDIDATES.
THE JURY IS STILL OUT IF IT
MEANS A LARGER INDIGENOUS
TURNOUT AT THE POLLS.
>> IN PRESIDENT OBAMA'S
ELECTIONS, INDIAN COUNTRY TURNED
OUT IN NUMBERS NOT SEEN BEFORE.
SO IT'S A CARRYOVER OF THAT.
AND THEN TWO YEARS AGO, IT
DISAPPEARED.
NOW THEY'RE FIGURING OUT HOW TO
GET IT BACK.
>> Reporter: A CHALLENGE SINCE
NATIVE-AMERICANS TURN OUT TO
VOTELESS THAN ANY OTHER GROUP.
THIS NOVEMBER, THAT MAY CHANGE.
IN A SHED ATTACHED TO A TRAILER
BACK IN PUEBLO OF SANTO DOMINGO,
RICARDO CATE IS HARD AT WORK.
>> I LIKE TURNING THE TABLES ON
SOCIETY.
THIS IS WHERE I STICK IT TO THE
MAN.
>> Reporter: THE MAN IS
PRESIDENT TRUMP, A CARTOONIST'S
DREAM.
>> YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP.
ALL THIS STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING.
>> Reporter: CATE IS THE ONLY
NATIVE-AMERICAN ARTIST WHOSE
WORK APPEARS IN A MAINSTREAM
NEWSPAPER.
HE BELIEVES THAT RACISM AGAINST
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE HAS INCREASED
SINCE TRUMP WAS ELECTED.
SO CATE SAYS, HE'S FIGHTING BACK
WITH HIS BRUSH.
>> I COULD COME OUT WITH A FEW
CARTOONS ABOUT ENTICING PEOPLE
TO COME OUT AND VOTE.
>> Reporter: HE SAID THAT HE
WILL CAMPAIGN FOR DEB HAALAND.
FOR NATIVE-AMERICANS, HE SAYS,
THE HOPE OF SEEING SOMEONE LIKE
THEM ON CAPITOL HILL COULD MAKE
ALL THE DIFFERENCE.
>> IT'S A GAME-CHANGER.
NOW WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT WE CAN
ACTUALLY -- WHO WILL UNDERSTAND
OUR PLIGHT.
>> THE NUMBER TO GET INTO THE
CONVERSATION --
>> Reporter: MONICA BRAINE
PRODUCES A RADIO SHOW CALLED
"NATIVE AMERICA CALLING."
>> THERE IS A PERCEPTION THAT
NATIVE-AMERICANS VOTE DEMOCRATIC
AND ARE LIBERAL-LEANING, WE GOT
LOTS AND LOTS OF CALLS AND FOLKS
ON THE SHOW WHO WERE AVID
SUPPORTERS OF DONALD TRUMP AND
WHO BELIEVE HE IS WHAT'S BEST
FOR INDIAN COUNTRY.
>> Reporter: THE ADVANTAGE WILL
GOOD TO WHATEVER PARTY CAN GET
INDIGENOUS VOTERS TO SHOW UP AT
THE POLLS.
(*)
SLIDE GUITARS REVERBERATE WITH
HATS AND BOOTS.
IN NEW MEXICO, IT'S AS
MAINSTREAM AS IT GETS.
ANOTHER FUNDRAISER FOR HAALAND'S
CAMPAIGN.
SHE'S RUNNING IN A HEAVILY
DEMOCRATIC DISTRICT.
IF VOTER HISTORY IS ANY
INDICATION, HAALAND HERSELF WILL
MAKE HISTORY IN NOVEMBER.
>> I FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT THAT
YOU ARE GOING TO PULL THIS OFF.
>> Reporter: THE INEQUITIES OF
THE PAST ARE NOT LOST ON THE
CANDIDATE OR INDIGENOUS
SUPPORTERS.
THEIR ANCESTORS COULD NOT VOTE,
THEY SAY, BUT THEY CAN.
KIM BRUNHUBER, CBC NEWS,
ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO.
>> Rosemary: IT'S NOT CLEAR IF
HER CANDIDACY WILL INCREASE
INDIGENOUS VOTER TURNOUT, BUT
SHE'S NOT THE ONLY ONE RUNNING
THIS YEAR.
ACCORDING TO "INDIAN COUNTRY
TODAY," ROUGHLY 100 INDIGENOUS
PEOPLE HAVE ENTERED RACES, HALF
OF THEM WOMEN.
>>> NEXT ON "THE NATIONAL,"
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PRESS
CONFERENCE WAS FOCUSED -- WAS IT
FOCUSED?
IT WAS A WIDE RANGE OF TOPICS,
BUT WE'LL FOCUS ON HIS
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRESS IN
OUR "MOMENT OF THE DAY."
>> President Donald Trump: I
WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A BAD STORY IN
THE "NEW YORK TIMES," BUT I WILL
ANYWAY.
DOESN'T MATTER.
WE'LL DO YOU AFTER.
THEN WE'LL CALL IT QUITS.
>> WE'RE THRIVING, NOT FAILING
THESE DAYS.
>> President Donald Trump: YOU
ARE DOING WELL.
SAY THANK YOU, MR. TRUMP.
>> Adrienne: THROUGHOUT HIS
PRESIDENCY, DONALD TRUMP HAS HAD
A STRAINED RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
MEDIA.
HOW'S THAT FOR AN
UNDERSTATEMENT?
THAT FIRE WAS FLAMING AGAIN
TODAY DURING A PRETTY RARE
OFFICIAL NEWS CONFERENCE.
WHILE TAKING QUESTIONS ON A WIDE
RANGE OF TOPICS, THE PRESIDENT
TOOK TURNS RIDICULING, IGNORING
AND THEN INSULTING REPORTERS.
WE PICKED SOME OF THOSE
EXCHANGES FOR OUR "MOMENT OF THE
DAY."
>> President Donald Trump: EVERY
TIME I SIT, I TAKE QUESTIONS
FROM PEOPLE SCREAM LIKE MANIACS
FROM THE BACK OF THE ROOM,
MEANING REPORTERS.
PEOPLE KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE
NEWS IS FAKE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE
SITTING HERE ARE FAKE.
BUT 20% OF THEM ARE WONDERFUL,
OK?
YOU'VE BEEN ASKING A QUESTION
FOR 10 MINUTES.
>> Reporter: YOU INTERRUPTED MY
QUESTION.
>> President Donald Trump:
PLEASE SIT DOWN.
THAT'S A LOT OF HANDS.
STEVE, GO AHEAD.
HE'S A HIGH-QUALITY PERSON, THIS
MAN, BUT HE WILL PROBABLY HIT ME
WITH A BAD ONE.
GO AHEAD.
GIVE IT TO ME.
REUTERS, WHO ARE YOU?
WHERE ARE YOU FROM?
YEAH, YOU.
THAT LOOKS LIKE HE'S SHOCKED.
THIS WILL BE NOT GOOD.
THAT LOOKS TOTALLY STUNNED.
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN PICKED BEFORE
FOR A QUESTION?
>> Reporter: YES, SIR, BUT NOT
FROM THE PRESIDENT.
>> President Donald Trump: "NEW
YORK TIMES"?
I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A BAD STORY
IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES," BUT I
WILL ANYWAY.
>> Reporter: WE'RE KIND OF
THRIVING, NOT FAILING, THESE
DAYS.
>> President Donald Trump:
YOU'RE DOING VERY WELL.
SAY THANK YOU, MR. TRUMP
>> Adrienne: I HAVE SO MANY
THINGS TO SAY, ONE OF THEM THAT
IS THAT -- IT IS SO UNUSUAL THAT
IT'S RARE FOR HIM TO DO, BECAUSE
HE CLEARLY LOVES IT, BUT HE'S
RIGHT THAT "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
NEEDS TO SAY THANK YOU.
THE TRUMP BUMP IS A THING.
"NEW YORK TIMES" HAD ABOUT ONE
MILLION DIGITAL SUBSCRIBERS IN
2011.
NOW THEY HAVE CLOSE TO THREE
MILLION AND $1 BILLION IN
REVENUES.
YES, THANK YOU.
>> Rosemary: I WOULD NOT WAIT
TOO LONG FOR THE BOUQUET TO
ARRIVE OR THE THING OF FRUIT.
I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME
THING.
HE CLEARLY THRIVES IN THOSE
ENVIRONMENTS.
HE BECOMES A REAL SHOWMAN, EVEN
THOUGH THEY'RE VERY HARD TO
FOLLOW.
>> Andrew: NO MATTER WHAT YOU
THINK OF HIS POLITICS, IT'S HARD
TO DENY, HE'S A FAST-TALKER.
HE KNOWS HOW TO CONTROL A
CONVERSATION.
AT THE WORST OF TIMES, HE
MEANDERS IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT'S
SOMETIMES HARD TO REMEMBER WHAT
THE ORIGINAL QUESTION WAS.
THEN YOU THROW IN DOZENS OF
REPORTERS JOCKEYING FOR POSITION
AND NO WONDER YOU GET A SCENE
LIKE THAT.
THAT IS "THE NATIONAL" FOR THIS
SEPTEMBER 26.
GOOD NIGHT.
>> Rosemary: GOOD NIGHT.
>> Adrienne: GOOD NIGHT.
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