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>> THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS EACH NIGHT IS
ON THE RISE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING RIGHT
HERE IN NEW MEXICO.
ACCORDING TO THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
URBAN DEVELOPMENT, OUR STATE HAD A 20% INCREASE IN
REPORTED HOMELESSNESS LAST YEAR.
THAT'S COMPARED TO JUST ONE YEAR BEFORE IN 2016.
NEW MEXICO ALSO HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST RATES OF
HOMELESS VETERANS.
NOW, BEING HOMELESS CAN BE DANGEROUS.
IN 2014, TWO NAVAJO MEN WERE BRUTALLY BEATEN TO DEATH IN
ALBUQUERQUE, AND IN MARCH, A NAVAJO MAN WAS FATALLY SHOT
ON A STREET NEAR THE FREEWAY.
CORRESPONDENT ANTONIA GONZALES SITS DOWN THIS WEEK
WITH MEMBERS OF TWO GROUPS THAT ARE FOCUSING ON
HOMELESS NATIVE AMERICANS.
THEY SAY THAT BY HUMANIZING PEOPLE ON THE STREETS, IT
HELPS ADDRESS OTHER CONCERNS FOR HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING INSTABILITY IN THEIR
HOUSING.
>> JENNIFER DENETDALE IS A RESEARCHER AND COLLEGE
EDUCATOR AND SERVES ON THE NAVAJO NATION HUMAN RIGHTS
COMMISSION, AND WILL RIDING IS WITH FIRST NATIONS
COMMUNITY HEALTH SOURCE, AND THE ALBUQUERQUE NATIVE
AMERICAN HOMELESSNESS TASK FORCE.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> JENNIFER, HOMELESSNESS CAN INCLUDE AND LOOK
DIFFERENT WAYS, INCLUDING TEMPORARY HOUSING WHERE
PEOPLE ARE WITH THEIR FAMILY OR FRIENDS, INCLUDING NATIVE
PEOPLE WHO MAY BE GOING BACK TO THEIR TRIBAL COMMUNITIES,
BACK AND FORTH.
CAN YOU TELL US WHAT HOMELESSNESS LOOKS LIKE
RIGHT NOW IN ALBUQUERQUE FOR THE NATIVE POPULATION?
>> WELL, I THINK THE NUMBER OF NATIVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON
THE STREETS HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE, A FAIR NUMBER
OF THEM ARE NAVAJO, AND I THINK WE ALSO SHOULD
CONSIDER THAT MANY OF THEM OFTEN MOVE BACK AND FORTH
FROM THEIR COMMUNITIES ON THE NAVAJO NATION AND COME
INTO URBAN SPACES LIKE ALBUQUERQUE.
SO IT'S MORE OF A MOVING BACK AND FORTH.
>> WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE GREATEST THREAT FACING
NATIVE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING ON THE STREETS?
>> WELL, THERE'S A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT THEY FACE, AND I
THINK ONE OF THE ONES THAT I'VE SEEN, AS I'VE BEEN A
COMMISSIONER ON THE NAVAJO NATIONS HUMAN RIGHTS
COMMISSION, IS REALLY THE AMOUNT OF VIOLENCE THEY
FACE, FIRST FROM RESIDENTS, THE RESIDENTS OF
ALBUQUERQUE, BUT ALSO FROM THE POLICE.
>> IN YOUR WORK, YOU ALSO LOOK AT OTHER RESERVATION
BORDER TOWNS.
HAVE YOU SEEN CHANGES WHEN IT COMES TO ADDRESSING THIS
ISSUE IN ALBUQUERQUE AND OTHER BORDER TOWNS?
>> I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION THAT IS NOW BEING ASKED ONCE
AGAIN, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE MURDER OF RONNIE
ROSS, A NAVAJO MAN WHO WAS FROM SHIPROCK AND WHO WAS
MURDERED, SHOT MULTIPLE TIMES HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE IN
MARCH, AND PRIOR TO THAT, THERE WAS NATIONAL ATTENTION
TO THE KILLING OF ALLISON GORMAN AND KEE THOMPSON, AND
THAT WAS WHEN, ALSO, ONCE AGAIN WE HAD RAISED
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONDITIONS THAT OUR
RELATIVES ON THE STREETS FACE.
AND SO WE CONTINUE AGAIN TO HAVE THOSE SAME QUESTIONS.
>> AND WILL, WITH YOU AND THE TIME THAT YOU'VE BEEN ON
THE STREETS TALKING TO PEOPLE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE
CONTRIBUTING FACTORS THAT YOU HEARD FOR THEM BEING
UNSHELTERED AND NEEDING SERVICES?
>> DURING MY TIME AS AN OUTREACH COORDINATOR, WE
WOULD GO OUT TO THE STREETS AND HAND OUT FOOD TO
HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.
ONE THING I SAW WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME TO TOWN LOOKING
FOR WORK, AND THEY MAY HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR A FEW
WEEKS, BUT ANYONE CAN BE HOMELESS.
IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE.
MAYBE MOM GETS SICK, SHE HAS TO TAKE CARE OF THE
CHILDREN, A COUPLE MISSED DAYS AT WORK, AND THEN SHE'S
AT RISK OF BEING HOMELESS, OR SHE GETS EVICTED.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I SAW A LOT OF.
HOMELESSNESS CAN TAKE MULTIPLE FORMS.
PEOPLE CAN BE LIVING IN SHELTERS, THEY COULD BE ON
THE STREETS, OR THEY COULD ALSO BE COUCH SURFING.
>> AND WITH FIRST NATIONS, YOU OFFER A LOT OF DIFFERENT
SERVICES.
WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE BEING EVICTED FROM THEIR
HOMES, WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO MAYBE GET
BACK ON THEIR FEET AND TO GET BACK INTO FINDING
HOUSING?
>> SO FOR AN INDIVIDUAL, IT'S KIND OF HARD.
A LOT OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES DO EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND
CHECKS, SO IF THEY'VE BEEN EVICTED BEFORE, IT MAKES IT
A LITTLE TOUGH FOR THEM TO GET INTO HOUSING AGAIN.
A LOT OF THEM HAVE TO WAIT SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THEY
CAN ERASE IT OFF THEIR RECORDS.
BUT IN REGARDS TO FOLKS GETTING INTO HOUSING, THERE
ARE HOUSING ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE.
THERE'S MULTIPLE LOW INCOME APARTMENTS HERE IN
ALBUQUERQUE, AND THEN ALSO SUBSIDIZED HOUSING, AND
THERE'S ALSO HOUSING PROGRAMS FOR VETERANS, AS
WELL.
>> WITH YOUR WORK ON THE COMMISSION, WHAT HAS BEEN
THE TOP RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY?
>> SO IN 2017, AFTER WE WERE APPOINTED, WE CREATED A
REPORT AND GAVE IT TO FORMER MAYOR BERRY, AND OUR NO. 1
RECOMMENDATION WAS DESIGNATING A FULL-TIME
TRAVEL LIAISON FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE.
>> JENNIFER, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO ADD TO THE
COMMISSION'S WORK WHEN YOU SEE NOT ONLY TRIBAL LEADERS
TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE, BUT JUST COMMUNITY MEMBERS
IN THE NATIVE AMERICAN COMMUNITY HERE IN
ALBUQUERQUE?
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE NEEDS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED ON
THE ISSUE?
>> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY, REALLY NEED,
IN ADDITION TO HAVING THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TAKE
THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY, AND BY SERIOUSLY, I MEAN PROVIDING
MORE RESOURCES AND LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT OF VIOLENCE
THAT OUR UNSHELTERED RELATIVES EXPERIENCE ON THE
STREETS.
BUT WE ALSO NEED OUR NEARBY NATIVE NATIONS TO ALSO TAKE
A LOOK AT THIS ISSUE, BECAUSE IT IS OUR CITIZENS
WHO ARE HERE IN THE STREETS.
SO IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO BRING TRIBAL LEADERS TO
THE TABLE TO TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES, AND THAT STILL
NEEDS TO BE -- IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY
NEED TO DO. AND THAT'S WHAT THE NAVAJO
NATION HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION IS ATTEMPTING AS
WE VISIT WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ONCE AGAIN.
>> BEYOND JUST HAVING DIALOGUE, WHAT ARE SOME OF
THE CHALLENGES?
WHY IS IT DIFFICULT TO FIND, I GUESS, SOLUTIONS TO
ADDRESSING SOME OF THE ISSUES PEOPLE ARE FACING ON
THE STREETS?
>> THESE ISSUES ARE SO VAST, AND AS A HISTORIAN MYSELF, I
TEND TO LOOK AT THESE ISSUES STRUCTURALLY.
I THINK THE INFRASTRUCTURES ON NATIVE NATIONS JUST IS
NOT -- IT DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PROVIDE FOR OUR
CITIZENS.
AS WILL MENTIONED, MANY OF OUR PEOPLE COME INTO THIS
TOWN LOOKING FOR JOBS, AND WE SIMPLY HAVE A VERY HIGH
POVERTY RATE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE NAVAJO NATION.
AND THEN THERE'S JUST VERY FEW RESOURCES FOR
REHABILITATION FOR ALCOHOL TREATMENT, AND THOSE ARE
SERVICES THAT STILL NEED TO BE PROVIDED.
I ALSO, JUST FROM TALKING TO PEOPLE, UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S
VERY DIFFICULT ONCE A PERSON MAKES A DECISION TO CHANGE
THEIR LIVES TO ACCESS RESOURCES, TREATMENT, THINGS
LIKE THAT.
SO THERE'S STILL SO MUCH THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO
ADDRESS THESE NEEDS.
>> AND AS A RESEARCHER, AS AN EDUCATOR, AS AN ADVOCATE,
TALK ABOUT THE SOCIAL ILLS THAT COLONIZATION HAS BEEN A
PART OF.
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE NAVAJO NATION HUMAN RIGHTS
COMMISSION WAS FORMED IN 2006 AFTER A NAVAJO MAN BY
THE NAME OF CLINT JOHN WAS KILLED BY A WHITE POLICE
OFFICER IN FARMINGTON, NEW MEXICO.
SO WE HAVE WORKED TO SUPPORT FAMILIES WHO HAVE TO DEAL
WITH THESE VIOLENT SITUATIONS.
WE CAME INTO ALBUQUERQUE AND SUPPORTED THE FAMILY OF
ALLISON GORMAN AND KEE THOMPSON, AND WE HAVE HAD
DIALOGUE WITH THE FAMILY OF RONNIE ROSS.
I JUST THINK THAT IT'S HISTORICAL, YOU KNOW.
IN THE SEVENTIES, THERE WAS COINED A TERM, INDIAN
ROLLING.
IN FARMINGTON IN THE 1970s, THERE WAS WHITE
TEENAGERS WHO MUTILATED AND TORTURED THREE NAVAJO MEN,
AND THAT'S WHERE THE TERM CAME FROM.
WHEN THE MEN WHO MURDERED RONNIE ROSS SAY THEY DID IT,
THEY KILLED HIM JUST FOR FUN, THEN THIS KIND OF
ATTITUDE AND BEHAVIOR TOWARDS NATIVE PEOPLES IS
DEEPLY EMBEDDED IN THE SYSTEM.
>> AND BEING THAT NATIVE PEOPLE HERE, THIS IS THEIR
TRADITIONAL HOMELAND.
>> YES.
WE'RE OFTEN TOLD, AND OUR RELATIVES ON THE STREETS ARE
OFTEN TOLD THAT YOU DON'T BELONG HERE, GO HOME, AND WE
LOOK AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT THIS IS
INDIGENOUS LANDS AND WE ARE NOT OUT OF PLACE, THAT WE
BELONG HERE.
>> WILL, JENNIFER HAD MENTIONED SUBSTANCE ABUSE
AND HOW SOME PEOPLE ON THE STREETS ARE OFTEN STRUGGLING
WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
WHAT IS FIRST NATIONS VIEW TO HELP PEOPLE WHO WANT TO
OVERCOME ANY TYPE OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE?
>> FIRST NATIONS HAS PARTNERSHIPS WITH METS AND
THEN ALSO TURQUOISE LODGE.
SO FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO DO WANT TO GET INTO TREATMENT,
ONCE THEY GO THROUGH THE INTAKE PROCESS AND SPEAK
WITH A CASE MANAGER, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE THE HOMELESS
OUTREACH PROGRAM, THEY WILL GET THEM SITUATED, AND THEN
THEY CAN TRY TO FAST TRACK THEM INTO GETTING THOSE
SERVICES.
AND THEN IN ADDITION, WE DO HAVE OUTPATIENT
REHABILITATION, AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE SUBSTANCE ABUSE
COUNSELORS, AA MEETINGS, AND INDIVIDUAL COUNSELING, AS
WELL.
>> AND YOU ALSO HAVE A TRADITIONAL COMPONENT, AS
WELL?
>> YES.
SO, WE HAVE A TRADITIONAL HEALING PROGRAM.
THEY PROVIDE A HOLISTICALLY BASED APPROACH TO WESTERN
MEDICINE.
WE HAVE A SWEAT LODGE THAT THEY DO ON FRIDAY NIGHTS,
AND THEN SATURDAYS, ALSO.
AND THEY DO MEN AND WOMEN SWEATS.
>> HOW DOES HELPING AN INDIVIDUAL GET OVER
SUBSTANCE ABUSE, WHETHER IT'S DRUGS OR ALCOHOL, HOW
CAN THAT HELP THEM GET INTO MORE STABLE HOUSING?
>> ONCE AN INDIVIDUAL OVERCOMES ALCOHOLISM OR
ADDICTION, THEY CAN START THINKING CLEARLY, AND THEN
THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT MIND TO GET INTO HOUSING AND HELP
THEM START FOCUSING ON WHAT THEY NEED TO ACCOMPLISH AND
GET DONE.
>> JENNIFER, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE DONE HERE IN
ALBUQUERQUE TO HELP ADDRESS THE HOMELESSNESS AMONG
NATIVE PEOPLE HERE?
>> THAT'S SUCH A HARD QUESTION, AND I WISH THAT I
HAD AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO BE A NETWORK OF
SUPPORT.
WE ALSO, MANY OF US, TEND TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY AND NOT
EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE OUR UNSHELTERED RELATIVES AS
HUMAN BEINGS, AND I THINK ONE OF MY STUDENTS WHO WORKS
AT HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS TOLD ME THAT EVEN
JUST THE PUBLIC RECOGNITION OR AWARENESS THROUGH
EDUCATION, LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, HAS HAD PEOPLE
ACKNOWLEDGE HOMELESSNESS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF
SUPPORT AND DONATIONS.
SO, I KNOW PEOPLE IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHO GO
AND OFFER THEIR SERVICES OR DONATE TO THESE FACILITIES
THAT OFFER SUPPORT.
THEY FEED PEOPLE AT A BREAKFAST SOMEWHERE DOWNTOWN
ON SATURDAY MORNINGS, AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS
THAT I'VE SEEN HAPPENING.
>> WHAT ABOUT YOU, WILL?
WHAT DO YOU SEE AS SOME OF THE NEEDS TO HELP ADDRESS
THE PROBLEM HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE?
>> I THINK EMPLOYMENT IS A BIG ONE.
AT FIRST NATIONS, WE DO OFFER JOB DEVELOPMENT AT ALL
NATIONS WELLNESS & HEALING CENTER, AND THEN IN
ADDITION, WE DO PROVIDE TWO WARM MEALS A DAY, MONDAY
THROUGH FRIDAY, FOR INDIVIDUALS.
BUT I THINK IF PEOPLE CAN GET THE JOB SKILLS, THEY CAN
BUILD A PRETTY GOOD RESUMÉ.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE KEY TO ENTERING THE WORK
FIELD AGAIN.
>> WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, BOTH OF YOU, FOR JOINING US
TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
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