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>> Rosemary: ON THIS SUNDAY
NIGHT "THE NATIONAL" INSIDE
VENEZUELA.
AFTER THOUSANDS TAKE TO THE
STREETS.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Rosemary: THE EMBATTLED
PRESIDENT TRIES TO
HOLD ON TO POWER OF A COUNTRY IN
CRISIS.
>> I HOPE THAT WE RISE PAST THIS
NIGHTMARE.
>> Rosemary: DOZENS HAVE DIED
AND MILLIONS HAVE FLED AND THOSE
LEFT UNCERTAIN OF WHAT COMES
NEXT.
OUR ADRIENNE ARSENAULT IS IN
VENEZUELA.
>> ONE BIG BANG, FOR SECONDS THE
HOUSE SHOOK -- SHOOK.
I MEAN, SHOOK.
I NEVER EXPERIENCED ANYTHING
LIKE THIS.
>> Andrew: A TERRIFYING BLAST
SHAKES RESIDENTS OF AN ONTARIO
TOWN, WHAT CAUSED A HOUSE TO
SUDDENLY EXPLODE?
>> I THINK THAT IS JUST WRONG.
THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED
TO DO TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
>> Rosemary: HIS FLIGHT WAS
OVERCROWDED SO HE OFFERED TO
TAKE A DIFFERENT ONE.
AIR CANADA PROMISED BIG
COMPENSATION SO WHY DIDN'T THEY
PAY UP?
WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE YOU
GIVE UP YOUR SEAT.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
>> Rosemary: IN VENEZUELA IT'S
DIFFICULT TO MOVE PEOPLE, TO
MOVE ARMIES AND TO CONTROL THE
STREETS AND TO CONTROL EVENTS.
AS THE COUNTRY'S TWO RIVAL
PRESIDENT MAS NIEWFER FOR
POLITICAL SURVIVAL.
TONIGHT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT IS
INSIDE THE COUNTRY WHERE A
STUNNING DISPLAY OF PEOPLE POWER
AND RISING MILITARY DEFECTIONS
RAISE THE STAKES FOR DE FACTO
LEADER NICOLÁS MADURO.
YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT THE PHONE CALL
TODAY BETWEEN OPPOSITION LEADER
JUAN GUIADÓ AND JUSTIN TRUDEAU.
AND HOW CANADA BECOMES GROUND
ZERO FOR DISCUSSIONS ON THE
INTERNATIONAL RESPONSE WHEN THE
12 NATION LIMA GROUP MEETS HERE
IN OTTAWA FIRST.
BUT, FIRST, THE LATEST FROM
VENEZUELA ITSELF.
ADYEP GOT INTO VENEZUELA AT A
TIME WHEN NICOLÁS MADURO IS KEEN
TO DISPLAY HIS SWAY OVER THE
MILITARY.
AND ALONG WITH IT VENEZUELA'S
FUTURE.
>> Adrienne: HE IS SURELY
TRYING, NICOLÁS MADURO AT
MILITARY EXERCISES TODAY.
PARTLY ENCOURAGING, PARTLY
LECTURING TROOPS ABOUT LOYALTY,
COMMANDING IT, AND GETTING HIS
OWN MEDAL IT SEEMS.
MADURO NEEDS THOSE IN THE
INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY TO SEE
THESE MOMENTS AND BELIEVE THAT
HIS STRENGTH ENDURES AND THAT
HIS PRESIDENCY ENDURES.
CERTAINLY, HIS LANGUAGE WAS ALL
ABOUT CONTROL.
>> [speaking foreign language]
>> Adrienne: BUT WILL IT?
THIS WEEKEND SAW THE HIGHEST
PROFILE DEFECTION SO FAR.
THIS AIR FORCE GENERAL WHO URGED
HIS FELLOW OFFICERS TO SWITCH
SIDES.
>> [speaking foreign
LANGUAGE].
>> Adrienne: THERE'S A BIT OF
A SHOW IN THIS AS WELL.
THIS GENERAL WAS IN A PLANNING
ROLE AND DIDN'T COMMAND ANY
FORCES OF HIS OWN BUT A FEWER
LOWER-RANKING OFFICERS STILL
FOLLOWED HIS LEAD.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Adrienne: AND THAT WILL
MAKE VENEZUELAN LEADERS WITH
LONG MEMORIES WINCE BECAUSE
THERE'S HISTORY HERE.
>> A HELICOPTER FIRED ON THE
PRESIDENTIAL PALACE BEFORE IT
WAS SHOT OUT OF THE SKY BY A
ARMY GUNSHIP.
>> Adrienne: IT ATTEMPT A COUP
HAS BEEN DECADES AGO LEADING TO
A
DOGFIGHT IN THE SKIES BEFORE A
REBEL FIGHTER WAS SHOT DOWN.
SO NOW MADURO MUST FEAR THE
SKIES AND STREETS.
THE SEA OF 07 SESSION STRENGTH
YESTERDAY WAS BREATHTAKING.
RALLIES STRETCHED BEYOND CARACAS
TO TOWNS AND CITIES FAR FROM
TRADITIONAL ANTI-GOVERNMENT
HOTSPOTS, PLACE WHERE IS RALLIES
HAVE NOT BEEN COMMON.
AND FOR ALL OF THE ANXIETY OF
BLOODY CRACKDOWNS IN THOSE
STREETS, INSTEAD SECURITY FORCES
BACKED OFF, EVEN HUGGED
PROTESTERS.
THEY EITHER DIDN'T HAVE THE
HEART TO GO AFTER THEIR OWN
NEIGHBOURS AND FRIENDS OR
REALISED THAT THE TIDE IS
TURNING.
THAT'S THE
VERSION OF A FUTURE THAT JUAN
GUIADÓ WANTS TO BELIEVE IN.
HE INSISTS HE IS NOW PRESIDENT
AND EVERY DAY MORE NATIONS
AGREE.
CANADA WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO
STAND BY HIM.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Adrienne: HIS POWER
BUILDING, HIS VOICE
DISAPPEARING, HE MAINTAINED THAT
HE WOULD ARRANGE FOR RELIEF
SHIPMENTS INTO VENEZUELA.
INTERESTING PLAY.
IT WOULD FORCE THE MILITARY TO
CHOOSE, ACCEPT THE AID AND STAND
BY GUIADÓ OR BLOCK IT AND ALIGN
WITH MADURO.
THE U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISOR SAID THAT THE AID IS
BEING TRANSPORTED RIGHT NOW.
DONALD TRUMP SUGGESTING
INTERVENTION DOESN'T HAVE TO
STOP THERE.
>> Reporter: WHAT WOULD MAKE
YOU USE THE U.S. MILITARY IN
VENEZUELA?
>> President Donald Trump: I
DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT BUT,
CERTAINLY, IT'S AN OPTION.
>> Adrienne: SO WHAT WILL
WASHINGTON DO?
WHAT WILL MADURO'S ALLIES,
RUSSIA
AND CHINA DO?
WHAT CAN VENEZUELANS DO?
THESE ARE OBSESSIVE QUESTIONS
HERE AND ALMOST ALL OF THE
ANSWERS ARE DANGEROUS.
YOU CAN'T FORGET THAT
VENEZUELANS HAVE ALLOWED
THEMSELVES TO BELIEVE IN CHANGE
BEFORE AND THEY HAVE BEEN
DISAPPOINTED BEFORE.
BUT THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS
FEELS DIFFERENT AND THIS WEEK
FEELS IMPORTANT.
IN VENEZUELA I'M ADRIENNE
ARSENAULT.
>> Rosemary: PRIME MINISTER
JUSTIN TRUDEAU EMPHASIZED THAT
IMPORTANCE IN A FAIRLY LENGTHY
CONVERSATION WITH JUAN GUIADÓ.
THE TWO TALKED FOR ABOUT 30
MINUTES TODAY ABOUT THE NEED TO
SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE ABOUT WHAT
THEY CALL THE ILLEGITIMACY OF
THE MADURO REGIME.
THIS AS CANADA GEARS UP TO HOST
A SUMMIT ON THIS TOMORROW.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: WE ARE MOVING FORWARD
ON RECOGNISING JUAN GUIADÓ WHO
IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL
ASSEMBLY AS THE INTERIM
PRESIDENT...
[Applause]
SO THAT WE CAN MOVE TOWARDS FREE
AND FAIR ELECTIONS.
>> Rosemary: THERE'S A LOT AT
STAKE, NOT JUST FOR VENEZUELA,
BUT FOR THE OTHER COUNTRIES IN
THIS HEMISPHERE.
THAT'S WHY OTTAWA IS BRINGING
TOGETHER THE LIMA GROUP NATIONS,
MORE THAN A DOZEN COUNTRIES IN
LATIN AMERICA, THE CARIBBEAN AND
KOREA.
IT WAS CREATED A YEAR AND A HALF
AGO IN AN ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THE
POLITICAL AND HUMANITARIAN
CRISIS.
CBC'S OTTAWA BUREAU CHIEF ROB
RUSSO IS JOINING ME NOW.
SO, ROB, THE PRIME MINISTER WILL
BE THERE TOMORROW.
DO WE HAVE A SENSE WHAT HE WANTS
TO SAY AND WHAT THEY WANT OUT OF
THIS MEETING?
>> Reporter: THE FIRST THING
IS THAT HE'S A LEADER AND HE'LL
BE THE ONLY LEADER THERE AND
THAT'S A SIGNAL TO THE OTHER
LEADERS THAT THE PRIME MINISTER
WANTS TO SEND THAT CANADA
CONTINUES TO TAKE THIS VERY
SERIOUSLY AND THEY SHOULD TAKE
IT SERIOUSLY AS WELL.
THE MESSAGE IS ESSENTIALLY
TWO-PRONGED.
THE FIRST MESSAGE IS PRESSURE --
KEEP UP THE PRESSURE ON MADURO.
LET HIM KNOW THAT AS OF MIDNIGHT
TONIGHT, FOR INSTANCE, THOSE WHO
ARE NOT IN THE LIMA GROUP WHO
ARE COMING IN AS OBSERVERS --
ABOUT 20 OTHER COUNTRIES -- AS
OF MIDNIGHT TONIGHT A LOT WILL
DECLARE GUIADÓ THE ACTING AND
INTERIM PRESIDENT.
SO THE PRESSURE WILL BE
RELENTLESS.
THE OTHER THING THAT HE'LL TELL
THEM IS TO PREPARE -- PREPARE
FOR TWO
POSSIBILITIES -- THAT MADURO
ALLOWS NEW ELECTIONS TO HAPPEN.
AND THEN WHAT WOULD CANADA DO IN
ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT CANADA
AND THE OTHER COUNTRIES MAKE
SURE THAT THOSE ELECTIONS ARE
FAIR?
AND THE OTHER PREPARATION IS
THAT IF MADURO SAYS NO, AND HE
HAS WITHSTOOD SOME OF THESE IN
THE PAST -- IN 2013, 2017 HE
WITHSTOOD THESE THINGS.
THERE WAS A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS
SO PREPARE FOR THAT.
WHAT CAN WE DO IN THIS GROUP TO
HELP COLOMBIA AND TO HELP BRAZIL
AND TO HELP GUYANA?
>> Rosemary: OKAY, SO WHAT IS
IN IT FOR US TO HOST THIS
MEETING.
WE'RE A LONG WAYS FROM
VENEZUELA, SO WHAT CAN CANADA
GET OUT OF THIS?
>> IT'S NO SECRET THAT THE WORLD
IS A JUNGLE NOW AND FOR THE LAST
YEAR CANADA HAS BEEN MAULED IN
THAT JUNGLE IN PLACES LIKE CHINA
AND IN SAUDI ARABIA.
THEY WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE TOO
THIS IS WHERE CANADA PLAYS IN
THE BIG LEAGUES, THEY PLAY A
LEADERSHIP ROLE.
AND A RARE AREA IN FOREIGN
POLICY WHEN THE PRIME MINISTER
CAN STRUT AND PREEN A LITTLE BIT
AND LEGITIMATELY CLAIM
LEADERSHIP.
>> Rosemary: HMM, ROB RUSSO,
THANK YOU FOR THIS.
>> MY PLEASURE.
>> Rosemary: AS ROB MENTIONED
THAT TOMORROW'S MEETING WILL
ALSO LOOK AT WAYS THAT LIMA
GROUP COUNTRIES CAN SUPPORT
VENEZUELANS THROUGH HUMANITARIAN
ASSISTANCE.
IN FACT, SINCE 2017, CANADA HAS
CONTRIBUTED MORE THAN
$2 MILLION, MONEY GONE TO HELP
THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS
AFFECTED BY THE CRISIS BOTH IN
VENEZUELA AND IN
NEIGHBOURING COLOMBIA.
AND, ANDREW, YOU HEARD EARLIER
THE PRESIDENT'S COMMENTS ON
VENEZUELA THERE, JUST PART OF A
WIDE-RANGING INTERVIEW THAT WAS
AIRING TODAY.
>> Andrew: YEAH, AND IT WAS
NOTEWORTHY
FOR WHAT HE SAID BUT ALSO THAT
HE SAID IT AT ALL.
NO SECRET THAT DONALD TRUMP'S
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MAINSTREAM
MEDIA IS STRAINED.
IT CAN BE A STRAIGHT-UP
DOGFIGHT.
SO SITTING DOWN WITH A MAJOR
NEWS OUTLET THAT ISN'T FOX NEWS,
PEOPLE TAKE NOTICE.
AND FROM RUSSIA, TO NORTH KOREA,
YES, TO THE BORDER WALL, AS PAUL
HUNTER SHOWS US, IT WAS ALL FAIR
GAME.
>> Reporter: FOR ALL OF DONALD
TRUMP'S PUTDOWNS OF THE PRESS
HE'S LATELY SEEMED REMARKABLY
WILLING TO ENGAGE, IN SCRUM
AFTER SCRUM, TAKING QUESTION
AFTER QUESTION, EVEN AGREEING
THIS WEEKEND TO WHAT HE REFUSED
TO DO LAST YEAR, A TV INTERVIEW
TIMED FOR SUPER BOWL SUNDAY.
>> President Donald Trump:
LOOK, THE RUSSIA THING IS A
HOAX.
>> Reporter: AS HE DOES, TRUMP
REPEATED
MANY OF HIS LONG STATED
POSITIONS BUT ON AS HE PUT IT,
"THE RUSSIA THING" AND WHETHER
HE WANTS THE EVENTUAL REPORT
FROM THE SPECIAL COUNSEL LOOKING
INTO POSSIBLE LINKS BETWEEN THE
2016 TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA
MADE PUBLIC -- HE HEDGED.
>> President Donald Trump:
IT'S UP TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
I DON'T KNOW.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT'S GOING
TO SAY.
>> Reporter: AND REMEMBER THE
SUMMIT LAST YEAR WITH NORTH
KOREA'S KIM JONG-un?
TRUMP SAYS HE'LL LIKELY ANNOUNCE
BY TUESDAY THE DATE OF A SECOND
SUMMIT WITH KIM.
>> President Donald Trump: I
LIKE HIM.
I GET ALONG WITH HIM GREAT.
WE HAVE A FANTASTIC CHEMISTRY.
>> Reporter: JUST LAST WEEK HE
DOWNPLAYED TESTIMONY FROM HIS
TOP INTELLIGENCE CHIEFS WHO SAID
THAT SINCE LAST YEAR'S SUMMIT
THAT KIM HAS SHOWN NO SIGN OF
ABANDONING HIS NUCLEAR
PROGRAMME.
AND ON IRAN'S NUCLEAR
ASPIRATIONS, SOMETHING ELSE THAT
THE INTELLIGENCE CHIEFS HAVE
DOWNPLAYED,
SAID TRUMP "HE WANTS TO KEEP
U.S. TROOPS IN IRAQ TO KEEP AN
EYE ON IRAN."
>> President Donald Trump: I
WANT TO BE ABLE TO WATCH IRAN,
ALL I WANT TO DO IS TO BE ABLE
TO WATCH.
>> Reporter: THEN THERE'S THE
WALL AND TRUMP'S THREAT TO
DECLARE THE BORDER WITH MEXICO A
NATIONAL EMERGENCY TO FREE UP
MONEY TO EXTEND THAT BARRIER.
SOMETHING THAT THE TOP DEMOCRAT
NANCY PELOSI HAS LONG FOUGHT
AGAINST.
>> President Donald Trump: SHE
CAN KEEP PLAYING HER GAMES BUT
WE WILL WIN.
>> Reporter: IN A SIGNAL
PERHAPS ON TRUMP'S THINKING,
WORD TODAY THAT THE U.S. IS
SENDING MORE SOLDIERS TO THE
BORDER.
NEARLY 4,000 MORE FOR THREE
MONTHS.
THE STATED REASON?
NEEDED FOR PROTECTION AND
SECURITY.
>> Andrew: SO PAUL MENTIONED
HOW TRUMP SAID HE MIGHT HAVE
SOME NEWS ON TUESDAY.
THAT'S WHEN HE DELIVERS HIS
STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS TO
CONGRESS.
IT WAS DELAYED BECAUSE OF THE
GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN BUT NOW IT'S
SLATED TO START AT 9:00 p.m.
EASTERN.
>>> TO TORONTO NOW, A MASSIVE
EXPLOSION NORTHWEST OF THE CITY
OBLIBERATED A HOUSE TODAY AND
KILLED A MAN.
DOZENS OF HIS NEIGHBOURS HAVE
BEEN FORCED FROM THEIR HOMES AND
THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME QUESTION
-- WHAT HAPPENED?
THE CBC'S TALIA RICCI SPOKE WITH
THEM TODAY.
>> Reporter: WHAT WAS A HOME
IS NOW UNRECOGNIZABLE.
EARLY THIS MORNING THIS
COMMUNITY WAS JOLTED AWAKE BY
THE EXPLOSION.
>> ONE BIG BANG FOR SECONDS, FOR
SECONDS THE HOUSE SHOOK.
SHOOK.
I MEAN SHOOK.
>> IT WAS LOUD ENOUGH THAT IT
MADE ME JUMP UP, LIKE, WHERE AM
I?
>> VIBRATIONS, THE DOOR WAS
VIBRATING SO I WOKE UP.
>> Reporter: WORRIED
NEIGHBOURS QUICKLY GATHERED
OUTSIDE TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED WANT.
>> I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS A
TRANSFORMER AND I GO, NO, I
GO -- NOT POSSIBLE.
IT HAD TO BE MORE THAN ONE
TRANSFORMER.
>> Reporter: BUT, OF COURSE IT
WAS MUCH WORSE.
>> TO FIND OUT AFTERWARDS THAT
THE HOUSE
WAS DEMOLISHED AND MY HEART JUST
GOES OUT TO THEM.
>> Reporter: THE MAN WHO DIED
WAS 54-YEAR-OLD JOSEPH WESTCOTT.
THERE WERE NO OTHER INJURIES BUT
SEVERAL NEARBY HOMES WERE BADLY
DAMAGED.
>> WE HAVE 30 TO 35 PEOPLE AT
THIS MOMENT WHO HAVE BEEN
EVACUATED.
>> DUE TO THE STRUCTURAL
INTEGRITY THOSE HOUSES MAY HAVE
FACED THERE'S ALSO CONCERNS THAT
THOSE GAS MAINS MAY HAVE BEEN
RUPTURED.
AS WELL AS HAZARDS OF DEBRIS.
THERE'S SOME DEBRIS
UP IN THE TREES ON SEVERAL ROOFS
IN THE AREA.
IT'S SPREAD OUT OVER A COUPLE
STREETS.
>> Reporter: FIRE OFFICIALS
ARE STILL INVESTIGATING WHAT
CAUSED THE EXPLOSION.
MEANWHILE PEOPLE ARE PULLING
TOGETHER TO HELP.
>> NO ONE IS GOING TO GO HUNGRY.
NO ONE IS GOING TO BE OUT ON THE
STREET.
WE MAKE SURE THEY GET ALL OF THE
THINGS THEY NEED TO SURVIVE
UNTIL THEY CAN GET BACK TO THEIR
HOME.
>> Reporter: FOR THOSE WHO
LIVED CLOSE TO WHERE THIS
EXPLOSION HAPPENED, THE RED
CROSS TELLS US THAT IT COULD BE
MONTHS BEFORE THEY'RE ABLE TO
RETURN HOME BECAUSE OF THE
STRUCTURAL DAMAGE DONE TO SOME
OF THESE HOUSES.
IN THE MEANTIME THEY'RE HELPING
RESIDENTS BOOK HOTELS.
WITH THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS THAT
THIS EXPLOSION CAUSED THE
CLEANUP WILL BE EXTENSIVE.
TALIA RICCI, CBC NEWS, CALEDON.
>> Andrew: AS FAR AS CHECKING
FOR STRUCTURAL DAMAGE, A
BUILDING INSPECTOR AND TIRE
-- FIRE CREWS WILL BE GOING
DOOR-TO-DOOR TO
EXAMINE THOSE NEIGHBOURING
HOMES.
>> Rosemary: IT'S A FAMILIAR
TALE, YOU SHOW UP AT THE AIRPORT
ONLY TO FIND THAT THERE ARE MORE
PASSENGERS THAN SEATS ON YOUR
FLIGHT.
I'M SURE THAT HAS HAPPENED TO
YOU BEFORE.
TONIGHT WE HAVE A STORY ABOUT A
MAN WHO VOLUNTEERED TO GIVE UP
HIS SEAT BUT SAID THAT THE
AIRLINE DIDN'T LIVE UP TO THEIR
END OF THE BARGAIN.
ERICA JOHNSON HAS THIS "GO
PUBLIC" INVESTIGATION.
>> EVERY CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE
MATTERS...
>> Reporter: DANIEL TSAI IS
TEACHING HIS BUSINESS STUDENTS
ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE, A LESSON
HE CREATED AFTER A RECENT
EXPERIENCE WITH AIR CANADA.
>> IT'S ALL ABOUT TRUSTING AND
RESPECTING YOUR CUSTOMERS.
>> Reporter: HE WAS TRAVELLING
FROM VANCOUVER TO TORONTO, BUT
HIS FLIGHT WAS OVERCROWDED.
>> THERE WAS JUST PANDEMONIUM
AND THERE WERE PEOPLE SITTING ON
THE FLOOR AND THERE WERE BABIES
CRYING AND THE WHOLE PLACE WAS
JUST FULL OF PEOPLE.
>> Reporter: TSAI SAID HE
VOLUNTEERED TO GIVE UP HIS SEAT
AND TAKE A LATER FLIGHT IN
EXCHANGE FOR A $600 VOUCHER
WHICH HE SAID WAS INCREASED TO
$800 LATER THAT DAY.
>> AND I THOUGHT, WOW, THIS IS A
GREAT GESTURE BY AIR CANADA.
THEY
STEPPED UP AND THEY'RE REWARDING
PEOPLE FOR VOLUNTARILY GIVING UP
THEIR SEATS, AS THEY SHOULD.
>> Reporter: BUT WHEN AIR
CANADA EMAILED HIM THE NEXT DAY
THEY OFFERED ONLY A 15% DISCOUNT
OFF A FUTURE FLIGHT AND NOT
$800.
>> I THINK THAT IS JUST WRONG.
AS A BUSINESS PROFESSOR I
CONSIDER THAT TO BE A MARKETING
FAIL.
THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED
TO DO WITH HOW YOU TREAT
CUSTOMERS.
>> Reporter: AFTER HE PUSHED
BACK IN AN EMAIL, AIR CANADA
OFFERED ON AN "EXCEPTIONAL
BASIS" A $300 COUPON AS A
GOODWILL GESTURE.
BUT AN EXPERT IN CONTRACT LAW
SAYS THAT A VERBAL PROMISE IN
THIS CASE FOR $800 IS A BINDING
CONTRACT.
>> THE AIRLINE OFFERED UP
COMPENSATION.
THE PASSENGER ACCEPTED IT.
IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE AIRLINE TO
SAY, "WELL, WE DON'T REALLY LIKE
THAT DEAL ANYMORE AND SO WE'D
LIKE TO CHANGE IT."
>> Reporter: THIS AIR RIGHTS
PASSENGER ADVOCATE SAYS THAT
GIVING UP
YOUR SEAT ON A CROWDED FLIGHT
CAN BE RISKY.
>> I GENERALLY RECOMMEND TO
PASSENGERS TO NOT VOLUNTEER TO
GIVE UP THEIR SEATS BECAUSE WE
HEAR TOO MANY CASES LIKE THIS
ONE WHERE PASSENGERS HAVE
DIFFICULTY THEN GETTING
COMPENSATION THEY WERE PROMISED.
>> Reporter: AIR CANADA
DECLINED AN INTERVIEW REQUEST
BUT AFTER "GO PUBLIC" CONTACTED
THE AIRLINE IT DID SEND DANIEL
TSAI ANOTHER VOUCHER, THIS ONE
FOR $500, ADDING UP TO THE $800
HE SAYS THAT HE WAS OWED.
ERICA JOHNSON, CBC NEWS,
VANCOUVER.
>> Rosemary: YOU MAY KNOW THAT
THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS PROPOSED
A PASSENGER BILL OF RIGHTS.
IF PASSED IT COULD TAKE EFFECT
BY THIS SUMMER.
BUT THERE WON'T BE GUARANTEED
COMPENSATION IF YOU VOLUNTARILY
GIVE UP YOUR SEAT.
THAT WOULD REMAIN NEGOTIATABLE.
THERE WOULD BE SOME COMPENSATION
IF YOUR FLIGHT IS SIGNIFICANTLY
DELAYED OR CANCELLED OR, FOR
INSTANCE, IF YOU GET BUMPED.
IF YOU HAVE A STORY IDEA OR A
TIP FOR "GO PUBLIC" TO
INVESTIGATE, YOU CAN SEND
THEM AN EMAIL AT
GOPUBLIC@CBC.CA.
>> Andrew: NOW LET'S LOOK AT
SOME OF THE OTHER STORIES THAT
WE'RE WATCHING TONIGHT RIGHT
HERE ON "THE NATIONAL"...
>>> STARTING IN B.C. WHERE
POLICE CAPTURED THE MAN
SUSPECTED OF SHOOTING A TRANSIT
OFFICER.
>> I'M PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE AND
INFORM THE PUBLIC THAT DAON
GLASGOW, THE SUPPORT IN THE
SHOOTING IS NOW IN CUSTODY.
>> Andrew: AFTER A FOUR-DAY
MANHUNT, GLASGOW WAS APPREHENDED
THIS MORNING AT A HOUSE IN
BURNABY.
NO ONE WAS HURT IN THE TAKEDOWN.
THE TRANSIT OFFICER WAS SHOT ON
WEDNESDAY AFTER APPROACHING A
MAN ON A STATION PLATFORM.
THAT OFFICER IS RECOVERING AT
HOME.
>>> LOOK AT THAT, 13 PLAYERS AND
BOTH HEAD COACHES WERE EJECTED
AFTER THIS HOCKEY BRAWL BROKE
OUT LAST NIGHT DURING A GAME
BETWEEN THE ACADIA AXEMEN AND
THE ST-FRANCOIS XAVIER X-MEN.
MANY IN THE CROWD SAID THEY HAVE
NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
AN INVESTIGATION BY THE
REGIONAL GOVERNING BODY IS
UNDERWAY.
>> Andrew: THIS IS A SUBURBAN
CALIFORNIA NEIGHBOURHOOD IN
SHOCK.
A HOME ENGULFED IN FLAMES AFTER
IT WAS HIT BY DEBRIS FROM A
SMALL PLANE THAT FELL APART IN
THE SKY AND THEN FELL OUT OF THE
SKY AND CRASHING INTO A
BACKYARD.
ON BOARD THAT PLANE JUST THE
PILOT BUT IN THE CRASH A TOTAL
OF TWO PEOPLE DIED AND TWO
OTHERS WERE INJURED.
>> I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT.
>> Andrew: IN NORTHERN
AUSTRALIA, THOUSANDS ARE FORCED
OUT OF THEIR HOMES AFTER WHAT IS
CALLED ONCE IN A CENTURY
FLOODING.
MORE THAN A METRE OF RAIN HAS
FALLEN IN THE PAST WEEK.
THAT'S ABOUT SIX MONTHS' WORTH.
AND EVEN TORNADOES ARE FORECAST
IN THE NEXT THREE DAYS.
>> Rosemary: WE LOOK AT HOW
BUSINESSES HERE ARE WATCHING
ANXIOUSLY WITH BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS HANGING IN THE BALANCE.
>> Andrew: AND MORE OF
ADRIENNE'S INTERVIEW WITH ONE OF
"TIME" MAGAZINE'S PERSONS OF THE
YEAR, MARIA RESSA.
SHE'S AN INVESTIGATIVE
JOURNALIST FROM THE PHILIPPINES
AND
SHE SPOKE WITH ADRIENNE ABOUT
EXPOSING THE TRUTH AND BEING A
TARGET IN HER OWN COUNTRY.
>> Rosemary: MAN, THAT
ADRIENNE IS BUSINESS.
>>> AND A LITTLE LATER, WHY
FEWER PARENTS IN THE U.S. ARE
LETTING THEIR KIDS PLAY
FOOTBALL.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THEY
HAVE PAINTED A FALSE NARRATIVE
THAT YOUTH FOOTBALL IS GOING TO
KILL YOUR KID.
>> I MISS MY SON.
I LOST MY SON.
I'LL NEVER SEE HIM AGAIN.
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>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: WE RECOGNIZE CHINA IS
AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND
GROWING ECONOMY, A SIGNIFICANT
PLAYER ON THE WORLD STAGE.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO
TRADE WITH CHINA, BUT WE NEED
THE CHINESE AUTHORITIES TO
UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN IT COMES TO
THE RULE OF LAW CANADA AND AN
AWFUL LOT OF OTHER COUNTRIES
WILL STAND FIRM.
>> Rosemary: AS THE RIFT
BETWEEN OTTAWA AND BEIJING
WIDENS, SPARKED BY CANADA'S
ARREST OF
THE HUAWEI C.F.O. MENG WANZHOU
AND THE SUBSEQUENT ARREST AND
DETAINMENT OF TWO CANADIANS,
THERE ARE NEW WORRIES ABOUT HOW
THE DIPLOMATIC TENSIONS ARE
AFFECTING BUSINESS TIES BETWEEN
THE TWO COUNTRIES.
CHINA IS CANADA'S THIRD LARGEST
TRADING PARTNER AND WITH
BILLIONS OF INVESTMENT DOLLARS
AT STAKE, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY
IS GETTING WORRIED.
KATIE SIMPSON ON HOW THEY'RE
MANAGING THE UNCERTAINTY.
>> Reporter: WHEN IT COMES TO
PRODUCTS THIS COUNTRY IS KNOWN
FOR, THIS IS ABOUT AS CANADIAN
AS IT GETS.
PRODUCERS SEND MAPLE SYRUP ALL
AROUND THE WORLD AND IT'S
BECOMING MORE POPULAR IN CHINA.
>> ANY EXPORTING COMPANY HAS TO
REALLY CONSIDER BEING IN ASIA IN
GENERAL BECAUSE IT'S A
GROWING -- YOU KNOW, THAT'S
WHERE THE BUYING POWER IS.
>> Reporter: CITADELLE IS ONE
OF CANADA'S LARGEST SYRUP
EXPORTERS.
IT WON'T REVEAL HOW MUCH IT
SHIPS TO CHINA FOR COMPETITIVE
REASONS BUT IT HOPES TO INCREASE
SALES TO CHINESE CUSTOMERS
BY 500% OVER THE NEXT FIVE
YEARS.
THE COMPANY IS CLOSELY FOLLOWING
THE DIPLOMATIC DISPUTE
BETWEEN OTTAWA AND BEIJING.
WHILE IT'S NOT HURT BUSINESS
YET, THERE IS ANXIETY THAT THE
HIT COULD COME.
>> IF IT CONTINUES AND IT GOES
BAD, OBVIOUSLY, WE ANTICIPATE
THAT THERE COULD BE SOME
COMMERCIAL SETBACKS.
>> Reporter: A SENIOR BUSINESS
SOURCE TELLS CBC NEWS THAT
CANADIAN CORPORATE LEADERS IN
PANIC MODE, WORRIED THAT
PROSPECTIVE DEALS WITH BEIJING
ARE AT RISK.
THE GOVERNMENT IS KEEPING THEM
UPDATED BUT IT CAN'T OFFER ANY
ASSURANCES THAT CHINA IS THROUGH
RETALIATING.
>> THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT
BUSINESSES HATE UNCERTAINTY.
>> Reporter: THE PRESIDENT OF
THE CANADIAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
IS CAREFUL TO CHOOSE HIS WORDS.
>> I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY BUSINESS
THAT HAS SAID THAT WE HAVE
DECIDED TO PULL OUT OF CHINA AS
A CONSEQUENCE.
BUT THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT
PEOPLE ARE LOOKING MORE
CAREFULLY THAN THEY WOULD
NORMALLY AND EXAMINING WHETHER
THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO
BE TAKING FURTHER STEPS.
>> Reporter: THAT'S THE
QUESTION FOR CITADELLE.
THE MANAGERS HAVE PLANS TO
TRAVEL TO SHANGHAI FOR A FOOD
SHOW IN MAY.
>> IF THE SITUATION CONTINUES TO
DECAY, YOU KNOW, AND WE'LL SEE
IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO GO.
>> Reporter: THERE'S VERY
LITTLE CHANCE THAT THIS DISPUTE
WILL BE RESOLVED BY SPRING WHICH
MEANS THAT CITADELLE AND OTHER
CANADIAN COMPANIES HAVE TOUGH
CHOICES AHEAD.
KATIE SIMPSON, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.
>> Rosemary: IN THE LAST WEEK
CANADIAN DIPLOMATS WERE GIVEN
ACCESS TO BOTH MICHAEL KOVRIG
AND MICHAEL SPAVOR.
IT'S THEIR THIRD CONSULAR VISIT
SINCE THEY WERE ARRESTED BY
CHINA IN MID-DECEMBER ON
SO-CALLED NATIONAL SECURITY
GROUNDS.
>> Andrew: WELL, AHEAD TONIGHT
ON "THE NATIONAL"... IT LOOKS
LIKE A "HERITAGE MINUTE" BUT
DON'T BE FOOLED.
DID THIS POLITICAL AD CROSS THE
LINE?
>> Rosemary: HMM.
BUT, FIRST, WE'LL HAVE
MORE WITH ADRIENNE'S
CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF "TIME"
MAGAZINE'S PERSONS OF THE YEAR.
>> Adrienne: OF THE FOUR
PEOPLE, THE PERSONS OF THE YEAR,
YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE THE ONLY
ONE WHEN WHO IS ALIVE AND WHO IS
FREE.
SO DID THAT COVER -- DID IT
REALLY FEEL LIKE -- A BIT LIKE A
THREAT?
>> THE POWER OF JOURNALISM...
>> Adrienne: FOR ITS PERSONS
OF THE YEAR MAGAZINE "TIME"
CHOSE A TRIBUTE TO TRUTH AND THE
RISKS OF REPORTING IT.
THE MURDERED JAMAL
KHASHOGGI ON THE COVER, AND THE
STAFF OF THE CAPITAL GAZETTE,
HONOURING THE REPORTERS GUNNED
DOWN.
REUTERS JOURNALISTS JAILED IN
MYANMAR.
AND THEN MARIA RESSA OF THE
PHILIPPINES, STILL ALIVE, STILL
FREE, BUT VERY CLEARLY UNDER
THREAT.
A WOMAN WHO ONCE TRACKED TERROR
NETWORKS NOW HUNTS
DISINFORMATION NETWORKS, THE
ONES WHO
SPREAD LIES AND HATE.
SHE'S BEEN ON THE RECEIVING END
OF THOSE.
THE NEWS ORGINISATION THAT SHE
RUNS "RAPPLER" HAS BEEN CALLING
OUT THE GOVERNMENT OF RODRIGO
DUTERTE FOR ITS ROLE IN THE DRUG
WAR AND THE MURDERS OF
THOUSANDS.
DUTERTE HAS TRIED TO SILENCE
"RAPPLER."
SHE IS FACING CHARGES OF TAX
EVASION AND COULD SPEND 15 YEARS
IN JAIL.
SHE SAYS THAT IT'S POLITICAL,
AND THAT SHE WON'T STOP DOING
HER JOB.
WE MET UP A FEW DAYS AGO
TO TALK ABOUT FEAR AND FIGHTING
FOR THE TRUTH.
FIRST THING THAT I WANT TO ASK
YOU ABOUT IS I'M TRYING TO
IMAGINE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GET AN
EMAIL OR A PHONE CALL FROM
"TIME" MAGAZINE SAYING, MARIA,
WE THINK THAT YOU'LL BE A
"PERSON OF THE YEAR."
>> I NEVER GOT EITHER.
I GOT NEITHER.
I DIDN'T GET AN EMAIL OR A PHONE
CALL.
THEY NEVER TOLD ME.
I FOUND OUT WHEN THEY ANNOUNCED
IT ON TWITTER.
I WAS WITH MY FRIENDS -- ONE OF
OUR GUYS ON "RAPPLER" AND I
SAID, I THINK THIS IS FAKE NEWS.
CAN YOU CHECK?
AFTER THAT THEY CAME OUT WITH
THE FOUR COVERS.
AND WHEN I SAW JAMAL KHASHOGGI
AND "CAPITAL GAZETTE," I SAID I
THINK THAT IT'S REAL.
YOU KNOW THAT SINKING FEELING IN
THE PIT OF YOUR STOMACH.
I WENT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND
I HAD TO GO THROUGH, WILL IT BE
POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, BRING MORE
ATTACKS OR HELP US?
>> Adrienne: OF THE FOUR
PEOPLE, THE PERSONS OF THE YEAR,
YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE THE ONLY
ONE WHO IS ALIVE AND WHO IS
FREE.
SO DID THAT COVER --
DID IT REALLY FEEL A BIT LIKE A
THREAT?
>> IT SHOWED YOU HOW UNDER
THREAT JOURNALISTS AND
JOURNALISM, HOW WE'RE UNDER
THREAT JUST BY DOING OUR JOBS,
RIGHT?
WE'RE STILL REELING FROM THE
BRUTALITY OF THE MURDER OF JAMAL
KHASHOGGI.
I MEAN, WE WERE TALKING IN THE
PHILIPPINES.
IF THAT HAD
HAPPENED IN THE PHILIPPINES
WOULD PEOPLE HAVE EVEN KNOWN
THAT HE DIED, RIGHT?
IT DEPENDS WHAT COUNTRY YOU WERE
AT AND WHAT POLITICS WERE
INVOLVED.
WE SHOULDN'T BE THINKING ABOUT
THIS.
WE SHOULDN'T BE UNDER THREAT.
>> Adrienne: SO WHAT IS THE
THREAT THAT YOU'RE UNDER, WHAT
ARE YOU ACTUALLY ACCUSED OF
DOING?
>> THE MOTHER CASE, WHICH IS THE
ONE THAT WE REALLY -- ALMOST
EVERY OTHER CHARGE THAT THEY'VE
PUT ON IS SOMEHOW BASED ON
THIS -- IS THAT WE ARE OWNED AND
CONTROLLED BY FOREIGNERS.
>> Adrienne: ARE YOU?
>> NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
THAT MOTHER CASE IS BOTH A CIVIL
CASE AND A CRIMINAL CASE.
THERE'S A CRIMINAL PART TO SEND
ME TO JAIL FOR UP TO 15 YEARS
AND IT'S CALLED THE ANTI-DUMMY
LAW.
THAT I'M ACTING AS A DUMMY FOR A
FOREIGNER.
YOU JUST KIND OF LOOK AT MY
CAREER AND WHERE I'VE BEEN AND
WHY WE SET UP "RAPPLER" IN
THE FIRST CASE AND THE WHOLE
THING IS LUDICROUS.
>> Adrienne: LUDICROUS BUT YOU
HAVE ONE PERSON IN JAIL AND HAS
BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.
ALL OF THE WHILE THINKING THAT
SHE WOULD GET OUT ANY MOMENT
BECAUSE SHE HAS HASN'T DONE
ANY WRONG.
SHE HASN'T EVEN HAD A TRIAL.
>> THAT'S CORRECT, THAT'S
CORRECT, YEAH, AND I TAKE A DEEP
BREATH WHEN I REMEMBER THAT.
BUT I AGAIN HOPE THAT THERE'S
ENOUGH MEN AND WOMEN INSIDE OF
THE PHILIPPINE GOVERNMENT AND
THE JUDICIARY SYSTEM THAT WILL
STAND ON PRINCIPLES.
BECAUSE ALLOWING THIS,
WEAPONIZING THE RULE OF LAW,
WEAPONIZING LAW AGAINST
PERCEIVED ENEMIES, AGAINST
JOURNALISTS, THIS IS A MASSIVE
CRACK IN A PILLAR OF DEMOCRACY.
>> [speaking foreign language]
>> Adrienne: FOR PEOPLE WHO
MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR, WHAT ARE
THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
HAPPENING TO YOU AND YOUR
REPORTERS AS YOU EXPOSE WHAT'S
HAPPENING WITH THE DRUG WAR?
6 OR AS YOU TALK ABOUT DUTERTE
IN SOMETIMES LESS THAN
FLATTERING LIGHT?
>> WHEN THE PRESIDENT ATTACKS
YOU IT'S EASIER.
WHEN THE PRESIDENT ATTACKS YOU,
YOU CAN RESPOND.
WHEN ANONYMOUS TROLLS ATTACK YOU
REPEATEDLY, WHO DO YOU RESPOND
TO?
IT'S LIKE AN ILLUSION, A GHOST.
WHEN YOU ARE TELLING OTHER
PEOPLE THAT IT'S HAPPENING THEY
DON'T REALLY BELIEVE YOU BECAUSE
THEY DON'T SEE IT AND THEY DON'T
FEEL IT.
THIS KIND OF NEWS PSYCHOLOGICAL
WARFARE -- YOU SAW IT -- IT HAS
AN IMPACT ON YOUR PERSONAL, YOUR
PSYCHOLOGY, THE WAY THAT YOU
FEEL.
IT PLAYS WITH YOUR HEAD.
WE -- WE DO THIS FOR OUR
COMMUNITY AND WHEN THE
COMMUNITY -- YOU THINK THAT YOUR
COMMUNITY IS COMING BACK AND
LASHING AT YOU, YOU CAN'T HELP
BUT RESPOND TO IT.
BUT HOW DO YOU FIND OUT THAT
IT'S MANUFACTURED, RIGHT?
THAT WAS THE WORK THAT WE DID.
SO FOR TWO WEEKS I GRAPPLED WITH
IT PERSONALLY INSIDE.
>> Adrienne: WELL, PEOPLE WERE
WISHING DEATH UPON YOU AND
CALLING YOU EVERY SINGLE NAME OF
EVERY ANIMAL THAT EXISTS, RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
THEY CREATED --
>> Adrienne: DID YOU THINK
THAT IS REALLY HOW PEOPLE FEEL
ABOUT ME INITIALLY?
>> AT THE BEGINNING, ONLY FOR A
PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN YOU JUST
GO OVER IT.
YOU GET BEYOND IT BECAUSE YOU
CAN'T MOVE IF YOU'RE ABSORBING
IT.
>> Adrienne: AS WE TALK HERE
YOU'RE NOT COMPLETELY SEPARATE
FROM THE PEOPLE WHO WISH YOU
ILL.
SO TO WHAT EXTENT ARE YOU
WORRIED ABOUT THE DUTERTE
FOLLOWERS AND THE ANTI-MARIA
PEOPLE BEING NEARBY?
EVEN HERE IN CANADA.
>> YOU KNOW, I'VE GONE TO DAVOS
CITY AND I DO WORKSHOPS WHICH
HAVE BEEN UNDER MARTIAL LAW FOR
TWO YEARS -- AGAIN, UNHEARD OF.
AND IN THE REAL WORLD THEY'RE
ACTUALLY VERY CIVIL.
THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT THERE'S
SOMETHING MANUFACTURED IN THIS.
>> Adrienne: SO THEY ATTACK
YOU ONLINE BUT THEY DON'T TEND
TO APPROACH YOU IN PERSON?
>> AND, IF ANYTHING, WHAT IS
STRANGE TO ME AND WHAT MAKES ME
FEEL THAT I'M DOING THE RIGHT
THING -- WE'RE REPORTERS, RIGHT?
WE KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A
REPORTER AND WHEN YOU'RE A
RESPECTED REPORTER YOU HAVE
PEOPLE WHO SEE YOUR WORK.
BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT TIME.
WHOLE FAMILIES HAVE COME TO ME
IN AIRPORTS TO HUG ME.
AND THEY JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU
ARE SAYING THINGS THAT WE WANT
TO SAY BUT WE CAN'T.
SO THERE ARE MANY MORE FILIPINOS
WHO LIVE IN FEAR, WHO ARE TRYING
TO GET OUT OF THE WAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE THAT
WE'RE DOING, WE'RE HOPING THAT
WE'RE GIVING A VOICE TO THAT,
CERTAINLY, GIVING THEM A
NARRATIVE THAT DESERVES TO BE IN
A DEMOCRACY.
BUT, NO, NOT REALLY AFRAID.
IT MAY BE FOOLISH.
>> Adrienne: OKAY.
I FEEL LIKE AN URGENCY COMING
FROM YOU,
THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET SO
MUCH DONE.
WHAT IS BEHIND THAT URGENCY?
>> WE'RE AT AN EXISTENTIAL
MOMENT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EXISTENTIAL
MOMENT
FOR JOURNALISM AND FOR
JOURNALISTS AND CERTAINLY FOR
"RAPPLER."
YOU CAN SEE IT.
BUT FOR JOURNALISM BECAUSE WE'RE
UNDER THREAT ON TWO SIDES, BY
THE SOCIAL MEDIA GIANTS THAT
ATTACK, AND MONEY.
GOOGLE, FACEBOOK, ARE TAKING THE
LION'S SHARE OF ALL NEW DIGITAL
AD SPENDS AND THAT'S A THREAT TO
US FOR SURVIVAL.
BUT BEYOND WHAT JOURNALISTS --
THE JOURNALISTS ARE YOUR FIRST
LINE OF DEFENCE IN ANY
DEMOCRACY.
WHEN JOURNALISTS ARE UNDER
ATTACK, DEMOCRACY IS UNDER
ATTACK.
IT'S AN EXISTENTIAL MOMENT FOR
DEMOCRACY, BECAUSE DEMOCRACY IS
ANCHORED IN AN
ECOSYSTEM AND WHEN THE INTEGRITY
OF THE INFORMATION ECOSYSTEM IS
COMPROMISED, WHICH IS WHERE WE
ARE TODAY, DEMOCRACY CRUMBLES.
>> Adrienne: YOU HAVE OTHER
CITIZENSHIP --
>> I DO.
>> Adrienne: YOU'RE AN
AMERICAN.
AND I IMAGINE THAT PEOPLE WHO
LOVE YOU ARE YOU SAYING, MARIA,
YOU'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.
IT'S TIME TO PROTECT YOURSELF.
LEAVE -- JUST LEAVE.
>> BUT I'M ALSO A FILIPINO.
AND THIS IS WHY WE BECAME
JOURNALISTS IN THE FIRST PLACE,
RIGHT?
WHEN YOU'RE A JOURNALIST IN GOOD
TIMES AND IT'S EASY TO LIVE BY
THOSE PRINCIPLES, BY THE
MISSION.
THIS IS A TIME WHEN IT MATTERS.
I HAVE NO CHOICE, YOU KNOW.
AND, NOT JUST FOR ME, BUT
"RAPPLER" IS YOUNG, YOU HAVE MET
OUR TEAM.
THEY'RE SO FOCUSED ON IT, AND
EVERY OTHER NEWS GROUP, GONE.
THE MISSION IS CLEAR AND WE'RE
GOING TO CARRY IT OUT.
>> Adrienne: UNTIL EITHER YOU
WIN OR YOU CAN'T ANYMORE I'M
GUESSING?
>> AGAIN, I'M HOPING.
ALL YOU CAN DO IS HOPE.
BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE MANY
MORE FILIPINOS.
YES, PEOPLE ARE AFRAID.
AND THAT'S WHAT PRESIDENT
DUTERTE IS COUNTING ON.
HE'S A MASTER MANIPULATOR IN THE
SENSE THAT HE UNDERSTANDS THE
PSYCHOLOGY OF FILIPINOS.
HE'S BEEN THE MAYOR SINCE 1988,
RIGHT?
SO HE'S CONTROLLED THE CITY.
AND HE KNOWS THAT LAW AND ORDER,
THE USE OF VIOLENCE, IT HAS A
CERTAIN IMPACT ON OTHERS, THE
USE OF POWER IN THIS BRUTE FORCE
KIND OF WAY.
IT'S BOTH RESPECTED AND FEARED.
AND THAT ALLOWS HIM AND GIVES
HIM A LOT OF LEEWAY, BUT I THINK
THAT THERE ARE MANY FILIPINOS
WHOSE VALUES ARE ALIGNED WITH
HUMAN RIGHTS.
BUT THOSE VOICES HAVE TO COME
BACK AND THEY NEED TO FIND
STRENGTH.
>> Adrienne: THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
>> THANKS.
>> Adrienne: AS ALWAYS, THANK
YOU.
>> Andrew: A VERY COMPELLING
INTERVIEW.
OKAY, UP NEXT ON "THE NATIONAL,"
WE'LL LOOK AT A QUESTION THAT
MANY PARENTS IN THE U.S. ARE
CERTAINLY ASKING -- IS FOOTBALL
TOO DANGEROUS FOR KIDS?
>> THAT'S HOW YOU LEARNED
FOOTBALL
IN THE OLD DAYS.
YOU PUT YOUR HELMET ON AND YOU
WENT AND TRIED TO RUN INTO
THINGS WITH YOUR HEAD.
THAT'S NOT THE CASE THESE DAYS.
(*)
>> Rosemary: FIRST THOUGH, A
LOOK AT COVERAGE THAT YOU'LL SEE
HERE STARTING TOMORROW NIGHT.
WE'RE TAKING AN IN-DEPTH LOOK AT
PIPELINES AND POLITICS IN A
PROVINCE THAT IS HURTING.
>> MANY OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE
PLANS FOR THE BOOM AND BUST
CYCLES.
IT'S JUST GOING ON TOO LONG THIS
TIME.
>> AS MUCH AS I HATE TO SAY IT,
I DON'T THANK WE HAVE
SEEN THE WORST OF IT.
>> Rosemary: THE FUTURE FOR
ALBERTA.
WHAT IS AT STAKE FOR THE
PROVINCE AND THE COUNTRY?
THIS WEEK "THE NATIONAL" HEADS
WEST WHERE OPINIONS RUN AS DEEP
AS THE OIL.
>> CANADA HAS TO GET TOGETHER,
RATHER THAN WORK APART.
>> Rosemary: AN ENERGY-FUELLED
DEBATE WHERE PRISTINE WILDERNESS
LOOKS UNDER THREAT AND A FORMER
BOOMTOWN FEELS OVERWHELMED.
>> Ian: THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN
HIT HARD BY
THE DOWNTURN IN OIL AND GAS.
WE CAME HERE TO SEE THAT IMPACT
AND TO LISTEN TO THE MESSAGE
THAT PEOPLE HAVE FOR THE REST OF
CANADA.
>> WE NEED TO MOVE THIS OIL.
>> WE'VE GOT TO GET OUR MESSAGE
TO SOMEBODY THAT CAN LISTEN TO
US.
>> Rosemary: AND IN A
"NATIONAL" CONVERSATION WE'LL
PUT YOUR QUESTIONS TO PEOPLE WHO
MAY HAVE ANSWERS, INCLUDING
PREMIER RACHEL NOTLEY.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW --
>> WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO DO --
>> HOW ARE YOU GOING TO --
>> IS THE GOVERNMENT AWARE --
>> WHAT IS YOUR GOVERNMENT DOING
TO MAKE THE NEXT GENERATION IS
SUCCESSFUL?
>> Rosemary: AND WITH
ALBERTANS HEADING TO THE POLLS
SOON WE'LL SIT DOWN WITH THE
PROVINCE'S OPPOSITION LEADER TO
ASK WHAT HE'D DO DIFFERENTLY.
ALL OF THAT THIS WEEK FROM
(*)
(singing).
* WE'RE GOING TO BEAT TOM BRADY
YEAH *
>> I THINK THAT PEOPLE HATE THE
PATRIOTS BECAUSE OF JEALOUSY.
>> Andrew: IT IS SUPER BOWL
SUNDAY, THE BIGGEST SHOWDOWN IN
NORTH AMERICAN SPORTS.
THERE WAS CONTROVERSY HEADING
INTO THE GAME.
THERE WAS THAT BLOWN CALL WHICH
HELPED THE L.A. RAMS, AND THEN
MAROON 5'S DECISION TO PLAY THE
HALFTIME SHOW WHEN MANY OTHER
PERFORMERS BACKED OUT IN SUPPORT
OF THE PLAYERS' RIGHT TO
PROTEST.
BUT REGARDLESS OF YOUR POLITICS,
ONE ISSUE THAT CONTINUES TO DOG
FOOTBALL IS CONCERNS OVERHEAD
-- OVER HEAD INJURIES.
AHEAD OF TONIGHT'S GAME, U.S.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP PLAYED
>> President Donald Trump: I
JUST DON'T LIKE THE REPORTS THAT
I SEE COMING OUT AND HAVING TO
DO WITH FOOTBALL.
I MEAN, IT'S A DANGEROUS SPORT.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S -- IT'S
REALLY TOUGH AND I THOUGHT THAT
THE EQUIPMENT WOULD GET BETTER
AND IT HAS.
THE HELMETS HAVE GOTTEN FAR
BETTER BUT IT HASN'T SOLVED THE
PROBLEM.
>> Andrew: THE PRESIDENT SAID
THAT HE'D HAVE A HARD TIME
LETTING HIS SON PLAY GIVEN THE
RISKS.
THERE ARE PARENTS WHO SHARE THAT
SAME FEAR AND AS CONCERN OVER
FOOTBALL AND BRAIN INJURIES
GROWS, THE CONSEQUENCES ARE
EXTENDING BEYOND THE NFL AND
INTO THE RANKS OF YOUTH SPORT.
KIM BRUNHUBER HAS A CLOSER LOOK
AT SOME OF THE
CHALLENGES HITTING THE GAME.
>> YOU GUYS BETTER FOLLOW THE
BALL.
>> Reporter: THE EAGLES...
THESE KIDS, AGES 5 TO 14, MAY
LOOK LIKE LITTLE BOBBLEHEADS BUT
THE HITS... YOU CAN HEAR THEM
FROM THE STANDS.
THE TEAM PLAYS IN A LEAGUE RUN
BY POP WARNER, THE LARGEST YOUTH
FOOTBALL
PROGRAMME IN THE U.S.
>> ARE YOU READY TO PLAY
FOOTBALL?
>> Reporter: FOOTBALL, SAYS
THEIR COACH MICHAEL WAGNER, IS
ONE OF THE LAST GLADIATOR
SPORTS.
BUT THESE DAYS HE SAYS THAT IT'S
GETTING HARDER AND HARDER TO
RECRUIT NEW GLADIATORS.
>> YOU KNOW, WE'RE PARIAHS NOW
AS YOUNG FOOTBALL COACHES.
>> Reporter: OVER THE LAST 10
YEARS IN THE U.S., PARTICIPATION
IN YOUTH FOOTBALL HAS DROPPED
MORE THAN 20%.
PARENTS, WAGNER SAYS, HAVE BEEN
SCARED OFF.
ACCORDING TO SOME STUDIES THESE
CHILDREN WILL TAKE AN AVERAGE OF
250 HITS TO THE HEAD EACH
SEASON.
AND SOME PARENTS ARE STARTING TO
WORRY THAT COULD DAMAGE THEIR
CHILDREN'S BRAINS.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THEY
HAVE PAINTED A FALSE NARRATIVE
THAT YOUTH FOOTBALL IS GOING TO
KILL YOUR KID.
>> I MISS MY SON.
I LOST MY SON.
I'LL NEVER SEE HIM AGAIN.
>> Reporter: JO CORNELL'S SON,
TYLER, PLAYED TACKLE FOOTBALL
FROM THE AGE OF 8 TO 14.
AS AN OFFENSIVE LINEMAN HE
HELPED TO CARRY THIS TEAM TO THE
POP WARNER SUPER BOWL.
HE NEVER REPORTED A CONCUSSIONS,
DIDN'T SHOW ANY SYMPTOMS UNTIL
THE
END OF HIGH SCHOOL WHEN HE
STARTED TO SUFFER FROM
DEPRESSION.
>> I WOULD LATER FIND THAT HIS
BRAIN WAS SLOWLY DYING.
>> Reporter: THEN IN 2014 HE
KILLED HIMSELF.
>> I'LL NEVER GIVE HIM A HUG.
I'LL NEVER MAKE HIM A MEAL.
I'LL NEVER HAVE HIM COME THROUGH
MY DOOR.
I HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT.
AND IT'S A TERRIBLE PRICE.
>> Reporter: A BRAIN AUTOPSY
REVEALED THAT HE SUFFERED FROM
C.T.E., A DEGENERATIVE BRAIN
CONDITION THAT IS FROM REPEATED
BLOWS TO THE HEAD -- LIKE
FOOTBALL.
>> IT'S JUST A PHONE CALL TO
TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE DEAD.
>> Reporter: KIMBERLY ARCHIE'S
SON, PAUL, WHO ALSO PLAYED
FOOTBALL WITHOUT SUSTAINING ANY
CONCUSSIONS, DIED FIVE MONTHS
AFTER TYLER.
HIS BEHAVIOUR WAS ERRATIC MONTHS
BEFORE HIS DEATH SO ARCHIE ASKED
THE PATHOLOGIST TO EXAMINE HIS
BRAIN.
>> HIS C.T.E. WAS IN THE EXACT
PLACE THEY WOULD EXPECT IT IN
SOMEONE THAT PLAYED
FOOTBALL.
>> Reporter: NOW ARCHIE AND
CORNELL ARE SUING POP WARNER AND
CLAIMING THAT THE FOOTBALL
PROGRAMME DIDN'T DO ENOUGH TO
WARN PARENTS OR PROTECT CHILDREN
FROM THE RISKS.
THEIR SUIT IS SENDING SHOCK
WAVES THROUGH EVERY LEVEL OF
ORGANIZED FOOTBALL.
>> THE REASON THAT WE FILED THE
LAWSUIT AGAINST POP WARNER WAS
FOR JUSTICE, FOR A SEARCH FOR
THE TRUTH, TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
TO STOP EVEN ONE FAMILY FROM
BURYING THEIR CHILD.
>> Reporter: BUT ACTUALLY
PROVING THE LINK BETWEEN YOUTH
FOOTBALL AND LONG-TERM BRAIN
INJURY COULD BE DIFFICULT.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS A
BIO-LIKE BRAIN...
>> Reporter: DR. CHRIS GIZA IS
A NEUROLOGIST WHO
SPECIALIZES IN SPORT CONCUSSIONS
AND TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY.
>> WHEN THE HEAD RAPIDLY
ACCELERATES OR DECELEBRATES YOU
CAN SEE THAT THE BRAIN IS
MOVING AROUND AND BENDING AND
STRETCHING.
AND THAT IS WHAT
CAN LEAD TO THE BIOLOGICAL
CHANGES THAT OCCUR.
>> Reporter: HE SAYS THAT
THERE'S EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT
HEADSHOTS ARE MORE DAMAGING TO
YOUNG PLAYERS BECAUSE THEIR
BRAINS AREN'T FULLY DEVELOPED.
>> THE INSULATION ON THE WIRES
IN THE BRAIN IS CALLED MYELIN,
AND THE YOUNG BRAIN HAS LESS OF
THAT INSULATION.
WE KNOW THAT EVEN FROM JUST
ELECTRICAL WIRES, WIRES THAT
DON'T HAVE INSULATION ARE EASIER
TO BREAK AND HAVE PROBLEMS.
SO THAT'S A VULNERABILITY OF
BEING YOUNG.
>> Reporter: A STUDY SUGGESTS
THAT PLAYING YOUTH TACKLE
FOOTBALL MAY LEAD TO BEHAVIOURAL
PROBLEMS AND TRIPLE THE RISK OF
DEPRESSION LATER IN LIFE.
>> RIGHT AFTER THE INJURY...
>> Reporter: BUT DR. GIZA SAYS
THAT THERE IS CONFLICTING DATA
WHICH SUGGESTS THAT SCIENTISTS
STILL DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND
THE MOST COMPLEX INJURIES TO OUR
MOST COMPLEX ORGAN.
>> THE TRUTH IS OFTEN SOMEWHERE
IN THE MIDDLE, RIGHT?
NOT EVERYBODY WHO PLAYS
FOOTBALL IS GOING TO GET BRAIN
DAMAGE, OKAY?
AND NOT EVERYBODY WHO PLAYS
FOOTBALL IS GOING TO COME OUT
UNSCATHED.
>> DON'T EVER JOG, GOT IT?
>> Reporter: WAGNER SAYS HE
NOW FOCUSES ON TEACHING KIDS TO
TACKLE PROPERLY AND NOT USE
THEIR HELMET AS A WEAPON.
>> THAT'S HOW YOU LEARNED
FOOTBALL IN THE OLD DAYS.
YOU PUT YOUR HELMET ON AND YOU
TRIED TO RUN INTO THINGS WITH
YOUR HEAD.
THAT'S NOT THE CASE THESE DAYS.
WE'RE SO FAR BEYOND THAT AND
EVERYBODY IS SO AWARE OF THE
POTENTIAL RISKS THAT THIS MIGHT
PLAY IN A PERSON'S LIFE THAT WE
DON'T WANT TO RISK KIDS' SAFETY.
>> FULL SPEED...
>> Reporter: IN A SOCIETY GONE
SOFT, WAGNER SAYS, FOOTBALL WILL
HELP TO TRANSFORM THESE BOYS
INTO MEN.
BUT THE MOTHERS WHO SAY THEY'VE
LOST THEIR SONS TO FOOTBALL FEAR
THAT PARENTS MAY NOT REALIZE
WHAT THEY'VE SIGNED THEIR BOYS
UP FOR UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.
KIM BRUNHUBER, CBC NEWS,
CALIFORNIA.
>> Andrew: ONE MORE FOOTBALL
NOTE, WHILE A BIG DRAW FOR THE
SUPER BOWL IS OBVIOUSLY THE GAME
ITSELF, LET'S SAY IT'S THE ADS
THAT ALSO GET PEOPLE TALKING.
BUT THERE'S ONE AD IN PARTICULAR
THAT CAUGHT THE ATTENTION OF
GENERAL MOTORS CANADA AND
THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH IT.
THEY WANTED IT PULLED.
>> WHEN G.M. NEEDED HELP WE GAVE
THEM $300 FROM EVERY SINGLE
CANADIAN.
AND AFTER THAT NEARLY
$11 BILLION BAILOUT.
G.M. CONTINUES TO EXPAND IN
MEXICO, LEAVING WORKERS OUT IN
THE COLD.
>> Andrew: THE AD WAS PAID FOR
BY UNIFOR AND IT'S HIGHLY
CRITICAL OF G.M.'S EXPANSION IN
MEXICO AT THE EXPENSE OF ITS
OSHAWA, ONTARIO, PLANT.
ABOUT 2,000 EMPLOYEES WILL LOSE
THEIR JOBS.
BUT G.M. ACCUSES THE UNION OF
QUOTE "PURPOSELY MISLEADING
CANADIANS AND TRYING TO TARNISH
ITS REPUTATION," SAYING THAT IT
REPAID ITS 2009 LOAN IN FULL AND
FULFILLED ALL OF THE TERMS OF
ITS AGREEMENTS WITH THE CANADIAN
GOVERNMENT MANY YEARS AGO.
>> Rosemary: "THE MOMENT" IS
UP NEXT BUT FIRST, THERE'S
ANOTHER AD THAT IS SPARKING A
BIT OF CONTROVERSY TONIGHT... IN
CASE YOU MISSED IT... THERE ARE
FEW
THINGS SO QUINTESSENTIALLY
CANADIAN AS "THE HERITAGE
MINUTE."
>> BURNT TOAST.
DR. PENFIELD I CAN SMELL BURNT
TOAST.
>> Rosemary: PRODUCED BY
HISTORICA CANADA TO
REMIND CANADIANS OF FORGOTTEN
HEROES OR WELL-DESERVING ICONS.
>> IN JUNE OF 1813, SHE
OVERHEARD THE SECRET PLANS
OF THE AMERICAN SOLDIERS IN
OCCUPATION...
>> Rosemary: SO WELL LOVED
THAT THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY OF
CANADA DECIDED, HEY, GREAT IDEA!
>> IN OVER 150 YEARS CANADA HAS
HAD MANY PRIME MINISTERS...
>> Reporter: LET'S BORROW THIS
CONCEPT TO SLAM THE LIBERAL
GOVERNMENT FOR A VARIETY OF
CONFLICT OF INTEREST BREACHES
AND
PARTICULARLY THE PRIME MINISTER
FOR BREAKING ETHICS LAWS FOR
THAT TRIP TO THE AGA KHAN'S
PRIVATE ISLAND.
>> JUSTIN TRUDEAU HAD MADE
HISTORY...
>> Rosemary: BUT AS IT TURNS
OUT HISTORICA CANADA IS PRETTY
PROTECTIVE OF THESE THINGS AND
WHILE IT'S OKAY TO DO A PARODY,
THE ORGINISATION SAID THAT THIS
ONE WAS JUST STRAIGHT-UP
PARTISAN POLITICS.
WITHIN HOURS THE CONSERVATIVE
PARTY HAD PULLED ITS "MOMENT"
DOWN, SAYING THAT IT WAS, IN
FACT, A PARODY BUT PERHAPS IT
COULD HAVE BEEN VIEWED AS THE
REAL THING.
"WE WOULDN'T WANT IT MISTAKEN
FOR A REAL PRODUCTION BY
HISTORICA CANADA, WHICH SHOWCASE
PROUDER MOMENTS IN CANADIAN
HISTORY," SAID A SPOKESPERSON.
HISTORICA WOULD NOW LIKE AN APOL
FROM THE
CONSERVATIVES OR ELSE -- BECAUSE
SOME CANADIAN TRADITIONS SHOULD
BE FREE FROM POLITICS.
(*)
>> Andrew: THERE'S A GOOD
CHANCE THAT YOU HAVE SEEN THIS
TOUCHING PHOTO BY NOW.
CORPORAL JEREMY HILLSON IS
RETURNING FROM IRAQ TO SURPRISE
HIS FAMILY DURING LAST NIGHT'S
HOCKEY GAME BETWEEN THE MAPLE
LEAFS AND THE PENGUINS.
IT WAS THE LEAFS' ANNUAL
CANADIAN ARMED FORCES
APPRECIATION NIGHT.
AND THE STORY OF HOW THIS
SURPRISE CAME TOGETHER IS OUR
"MOMENT OF THE DAY."
>> IT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST
INTENSE, CRAZY THING THAT I HAVE
DONE IN A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
(*)
JUST THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT
WERE THERE AND THE AMOUNT OF
FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT I KNEW
WERE WATCHING ON TV, IT KIND OF
MADE FOR THE GREATEST NIGHT THAT
I COULD HAVE EVER IMAGINED FOR
COMING HOME.
I FOUND OUT ABOUT A WEEK AND A
HALF BEFORE LAST NIGHT'S GAME
AND THEN IN THAT WEEK AND A HALF
I HAD TO TAKE CARE OF ACTUALLY
GETTING OUT OF THE THEATRE AND
MAKING MY WAY HOME AND
CONTINUING TO LIE TO MY WIFE
THROUGH THE BETTER PART OF A
WEEK AND A HALF THAT I WAS STILL
IN IRAQ.
IT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY LIE THAT
I COULD TELL MY WIFE THAT IS
PERFECTLY OKAY.
>> HERE WITH TONIGHT'S
CEREMONIAL PUCK AND HOME FROM
IRAQ IS CORPORAL JEREMY HILLSON!
[Applause]
>> YOU WANT TO COME SIT WITH ME?
>> YEAH.
>> THE REACTION THAT I GOT WAS
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS EXPECTING.
TEARS, A LITTLE BIT OF
CONFUSION, BUT OVERALL, YEAH,
SHE WAS SHOCKED.
TO REALIZE THAT I WAS KIND OF
THE FACE OF THIS MISSION WAS
REALLY HUMBLING BECAUSE THE GUYS
THAT I WORKED WITH OVER THE LAST
SIX MONTHS, ANY SINGLE ONE OF
THOSE GUYS COULD HAVE DESERVED
TO BE IN MY SHOES LAST NIGHT SO
IT MADE IT REALLY, REALLY
SPECIAL FOR ME.
>> Rosemary: OFF THE TOP THERE
HE SAID THAT LAST NIGHT WAS THE
MOST INTENSE AND CRAZIEST THING
THAT HE HAD DONE IN A WHILE AND
JUST TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT HE
HAD BEEN
DEPLOYED TO IRAQ FOR SIX MONTHS.
SO THAT GUY IS PRETTY AWESOME IF
THAT WAS THE CRAZIEST THING THAT
HE DID.
>> Andrew: NO KIDDING.
I'VE GOT TO SAY WHEN I
WATCHED -- IT'S A VERY SWEET
VIDEO, OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY --
BUT I DIDN'T THINK THAT SHE WAS
ACTUALLY SURPRISED AT FIRST.
LIKE I COULDN'T GAUGE FROM HER
FACIAL REACTION.
>> Rosemary: I FELT THAT TOO.
I FELT THAT TOO.
>> Andrew: BUT I GUESS THAT,
OBVIOUSLY, AS HE SAID THAT IT IS
A PRETTY SURREAL EXPERIENCE TO
BE AT CENTRE ICE.
NEVER MIND TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN
TO YOU.
>> Rosemary: A LOVELY MOMENT
FOR THEM AND THE WHOLE FAMILY.
AND FOR HIS SERVICE.
HE GOT ALL OF THAT CLAPPING FOR
HIS WONDERFUL SERVICE AS WELL.
>> Andrew: VERY, VERY TOUCHING
MOMENT AND THAT'S WHY IT'S OUR
"MOMENT OF THE DAY."
THAT'S "THE NATIONAL" FOR THIS
FEBRUARY 3rd.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
>> Rosemary: GOODNIGHT.
(*)
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