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hi everybody i'm brian kilmeade this is tucker carlson tonight tucker
will be with you in about five minutes but we do have some breaking news we
want to share with you of course today was dominated by many stories one of
which was the bipartisan budget bill for butter security and the big number is
that the president was not happy with was one point three seven five billion
to build a border barrier he could do whatever he wanted with it which shows
an advantage but the question was with the president add something with that
when he declare a national emergency I just got off the phone with Mick
Mulvaney chief of staff and the answer is a resounding yes and for the first
time you're going to hear exactly how much it is and where the money's coming
from it's going to be about eight billion dollars he had the one point
three then six hundred million will come from the Treasury the Treasury
forfeiture fund 2.5 billion out of DoD they consulted with McMullen E and the
White House over the last few months on what they could actually do and they're
going to use some money they feel they can spare on the drug interdiction
interdiction account then they came across with three point five billion for
the military the military construction budget they feel they can help in that
respect and then of course they have additional money it all leads adds up to
eight billion dollars so the one point three seven five not enough for the
president he wanted five point seven he walks away at the end of the day with
eight billion dollars and of course the Democrats and some Republicans are upset
about that he's got a lot of backup from people like Mitch McConnell he's got
backup from Senator Lindsey Graham who weeks ago said that the president should
give a certain amount of time to negotiations and if he doesn't get what
he wants at the end of the negotiations declare a national emergency I just got
off the phone with a White House official who says in fact that you have
McConnell spoke to the president and that's what was said in the conversation
so I mean that's a huge piece of news that the president's going to sign this
but at the same time declare a national emergency now Chad was talking about the
intricacies of this transfer authority and reprogramming money within certain
so it's like think think that you've got a farm think of the federal government
as a farm and the farms got a bunch of silos on it and each one of those silos
is filled with money and you're allowed to move some money around within each of
those silos and you're also allowed to move certain
amounts of money in between the silos now if you declare a national emergency
it gives you greater leeway to be able to move money around in between those
silos and White House attorneys have looked at this for months this idea of a
national emergency and they have identified certain baskets of money that
they believe can be applied to building a border wall each each time you dip
into a different basket though you're increasing the level of potential
pushback and and your potential risk for a legal challenge so there's some
baskets of money they believe they have that they can use and nobody's going to
be able to challenge them but once they go through those baskets of money and
pick up the next basket that comes with a little more risk and then each basket
after that comes with an increasing degree of risk so as you move this money
around inside they don't specific silos like the DHS silo or you move from the
DoD silo into the DHS silo or energy into it just for example into the DHS
aisle you you get increasing risk so it's not clear how much money the
president might be able to move around before he ends up in court but I do know
that the OMB office office of management budget here at the White House has
identified far more than the 5.7 billion dollars in the president originally
wanted in these baskets of money that it believes it can move around it just it's
they have to make a decision on to what degree do they risk inviting a legal
challenge here because once you get enjoined then you run the risk of almost
everything getting it joined in the courts I mean a lot of people thought
that the president might use this option but there was a lot of thought that he
probably wouldn't use the option he has said many many times that he would
rather do it legislatively but it's clear that the president thought that he
could not do it legislatively so now he's going to declare the national
emergency the national emergency as the president sees it is a humanitarian and
economic emergency that exists across our southern border tens of thousands of
people are being apprehended every month by Customs and Border Protection the
Border Patrol Immigration and Customs Enforcement for crossing over into this
country or being in this country illegally
Customs and Border Protection facilities are filled to bursting there are a lot
of family units there are a lot of unaccompanied children that are coming
across the border and the President believes that the best way to deal with
that is to build a border barrier add an additional 200 and some odd miles
of fencing particularly in Texas but here's the rub with that when you when
you're talking about these migrants these illegal migrants from what are
called the northern trying of countries of Honduras El Salvador Guatemala and
and Honduras Guatemala Nicaragua and El Salvador they're people who simply want
to get their feet on American soil so that they can be picked up by the Border
Patrol and then the President himself a couple of weeks ago in response to a
question I put to him acknowledged that because you cannot build a fence right
on the border in Texas you can't build it in the floodplain of the Rio Grande
you have to build it a couple of hundred yards in some cases the wall is a mile
in from the border all those people have to do is cross the Rio Grande and in
some areas you can float across in some areas you can walk across and if they
get their feet on US soil to give themselves up to the Border Patrol they
get into the system we're by and large they get released into American society
some of them do return for their appointed court date some of them don't
even if they come for their first court date they very often don't come for
their second court date and so they disappear into American society so build
as much wall as you want in Texas you're not going to stop the problem of these
migrants who want to get caught by the Border Patrol from coming across now
where it could help is people who don't want to get caught who get into a
country that would include people who just want to disappear into American
society right away they don't want to get caught by the Border Patrol that
could include criminal elements and could include human traffickers and
could include drug smugglers and other people with nefarious intent to get
across the border they could would get caught up ostensibly theoretically by
this wall which would give Customs and Border Protection time to get to them
before they hit these what are called vanishing points and disappear into the
United States so from that standpoint it could be beneficial for Customs and
Border Protection but in terms of stopping
the flow of migrants who were coming up from Central America who just want to
put feet on US soil it wouldn't do much to stop them and the president has
admitted that now the agreement will provide smart border security it will
not fund the president's expensive ineffective wall the president can
declare an emergency on it something that he has created as an emergency and
an illusion that he wants to convey just think of what a president with different
values can present to the American people well joining us tonight to take
up all of this Heritage Foundation senior legal fellow Hans von Spakovsky
great to have you with us on former Reagan White House political director
Fox Business political analyst Ed Rollins and good to have you as well as
James Freeman assistant editor The Wall Street Journal Fox Business contributor
Hans let's start with you Nancy Pelosi ignoring if we could put up a quickly a
full screen here of the number of national emergencies that have been
declared by presidents of which there are 31 still active by the way as Nancy
Pelosi talked about for the base the Democratic base that they found out what
they can do with emergencies they weren't paying attention when President
Obama himself declared 12 such national emergencies the national emergency is
clearly within the power of the President of the United States well yeah
in fact Congress passed a statute as you mentioned in the mid 1970s it lays out
the procedures for this and you know that statute leaves it well within the
discretion of the President to determine what is a national emergency and I got
to tell you I think Nancy Pelosi has lost touch with reality if she doesn't
think that the huge amounts of illegal drugs coming across the border like
fentanyl which is now the leading cause of overdose deaths United States and the
tens of thousands of illegal aliens constantly crossed over the words she
doesn't think that's a crisis that like I said she's lost touch with reality and
losing a importantly a political battle because that is what this has all been
about at Rollins this is a party that is coming behind forming up behind
President Trump he is gaining before our very eyes momentum you know I mentioned
seven this is a 750 fifth day in office guess how many days he's been under
investigation by other committees the FBI or the Special Counsel
755 days probably another week or two before that
well months before that but the reality is that he is gaining political momentum
the party is forming up behind us Lee the law is on his side history is on his
side this is looking very good for the country to have a leader who finally is
emerging from what has been an assault by the left right and the and the fake
news me and as and as he gets stronger the Democrats get weaker as they
basically see who gets first left and they're 20 some-odd candidates this is a
very important decision for this president to have made today and it's
obviously the wall is a critical factor in stopping an emergency and as you said
there has been 58 times since the bill was passed in 1976 that we've had
national emergencies I actually oversaw the office the Intergovernmental office
when I was in the Reagan White House which he did it six times Clinton did it
17 times Obama did it 12 times George W Bush did it 13 times so it's
not like there hasn't been a virgin's national emergencies in the past and
this national emergency James great con great contested debate for years now
over immigration illegal immigration and border security this will the
Declaration of the national emergency in the president's action this will settle
part of that debate that is that there will be border security it's it's I
think none it's just breathtaking to many that there would be a debate about
a superpower any nation that would not be automatically defending its borders
well he obviously has not been able to persuade a majority in the Congress they
don't agree at the moment even though they may have said earlier it was a
crisis they don't agree at the moment and so you'd like this to go through the
normal legislative process but why would we the normal legislative
process has been a disaster we have been watching this for since 1986
well when amnesty was passed we have seen border security a road we've seen
lives devastated and destroyed by drugs that are coming across methamphetamine
marijuana heroin cocaine fentanyl the majority of those deadly drugs 70,000
opiate overdoses a year how can anyone in good conscience not want to control
that border and stop the import of those deadly drugs alone forget illegal
immigration terrace you name it sex trafficking those deaths alone
should be enough to want to secure the border for any American well I think you
want to get funding the way our Constitution sets it out and get the
approval of the Congress or seek to president housings in the next election
I look I think he has an argument the House of Representative Mike has a long
it's called the JOBS Act of 1996 giving him that in our I agree with you he's on
a threshold level a the inability to defend a border to maintain the
integrity of a border does seem like national success that it seemed like he
was a little concerned about a president who didn't want to protect the neck but
you don't have to be concerned about a precedent well we saw the president
we've got 31 national emergencies do you want to expand the ability of a
president to do that James President Obama of those 58 that Ed just
referenced President Obama wrote 12 executive orders three orders already by
this president 31 of those executive orders over those administrations are
still active which means succeeding presidents have had to sign those every
six months in order to keep them in effect right this is a historical
precedent it is without question his lawful lawful prerogative to issue such
an executive order thank you god bless you and God bless america
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