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The historicity of our fencing style
This is a hot question for many people.
But not for me. I have a lot of discussion on this topic.
Therefore, I have something to say.
Let's start from afar.
How we got to the current type of fencing.
It all started in the late 90s
When there was no theory, only practice.
Imagine! No theoretical part.
People fought in armor and they knew only about Olympic fencing.
And it's all.
We knew that there is an attack, defense, parade riposta and other things.
But it was not applicable to the fight in armor with heavy weapons.
In those days, the armor was disgusting.
There was not much armor; they defended us poorly and were very heavy.
It was a great time.
At this time, began to appear different schools.
Now these schools have disappeared. High-level fighters are fighting about the same.
There are only some small differences.
Tula school, Zarechenskaya school and many others.
We did not have the Internet and YouTube.
We only watched video tapes.
Video tapes began to release these schools. There was nothing else.
If you come to the club and there is a coach, he will teach you what he knows.
And it's all.
In 2000 or maybe in 1999, Jacob Efimov from the club "Arkona"...
He created the Moscow school of fencing. It was different from the rest of the schools in that it was possible to fend off strikes with your sword.
They invented the position of "Quinta", called it "Domik"(House) and with the help of this they defended themselves ..
The zone of damage of the enemy was above the belt. It was a universal defense.
It was also impossible to beat the hand and forearm.
You protect the torso with a shield, use Quint, and no one can hit you.
Even if allowed to beat in the forearm. Do you know why? People did not know how to do a reverse strike.
I remember this time. We didn't know how to hit the forearm.
How to make a swing, how to hit the enemy.
We had such a low level.
We came to the club "Paladin", we were shown how to do Quint.
And they showed us how to beat people.
About how to work your hand with a shield ... it was not important.
In the end, using our instincts and improvisation, we beat people with a stick. We also watched how other people were fighting.
Especially carefully watched the battles of those who beat you. And they also did strange things.
Then everything evolved in stages.
The rules have not changed for a long time. Therefore, some schools were still effective.
For about 10 years it was impossible to beat on the knee or below.
You can only beat in the affected area, only chopping and fighting up to 10 points.
These rules formed the basic style of fencing of those years.
Vertical stand, no need to remove the legs. You can't beat them anyway.
And speed work in upper case.
It is difficult to hit the hips, it is easier to earn points by working at the top.
Head and hand
We could do Quint.
Tertia
We did not need more. We defended with a shield and quickly did combinations of strikes. We loved it
I will tell you about the stages of my evolution as a fighter.
I learned direct blows, two kinds of defense. And in order to win, you had to be faster, stronger and a bit more talented than your opponent
This is what I did.
And everything was not bad until I thought up (or saw) a reverse strike in the thigh.
I was subdued by this blow. I beat everybody throughout the year. With the help of this blow!
He was so good that no one could defend himself against this blow.
And in the end I forgot how to make other hits.
I beat everyone with one punch. Like Saitama
But then people learned to work in defense.
And I stopped being so cool.
My style of fencing broke down and I couldn't fight normally for a year.
Another important thing! In addition to changing the rules, the exchange of experience between the fighters of Russia and Ukraine
and the evolution of the style of fencing ...
Our armor also evolved.
Any change in the armor greatly changes the fencing technique.
In fact, we have evolved from the Vikings to the 15th century. So much has changed our armor in this short time.
Blacksmiths and fighters were not idle.
For Example
In Tula invented a steel fist.
Rigid construction on the arm, in which you just need to insert a sword.
This greatly changed the technique of fencing.
It became easier for us to hold the sword and we were not afraid that it would fly out of our hands.
we do not grab the handle so much.
You could make more crazy combinations.
Steel fist changed fencing.
The armor became lighter and harder.
In light armor, you can lean forward slightly towards your opponent. In heavy cuirass, you will not do that.
Normal steel hips began to appear.
My thigh protection is now commonplace.
It is just hardened steel. These are all those who have no money for titanium.
But for the start of the 00s, this would be a technological miracle. 0.8mm thin hardened steel.
Beautiful anatomical armor.
There was no such beauty then.
Even if it was, we had no money. We were hungry students.
And only a few people in Russia could do this.
Therefore, we had a thick quilted fabric.
Our hips were blue with bruises.
Broken fingers, hands ... It was a great time.
We return to the fencing technique. Video about historicity.
In general, I wanted to talk about it.
Then we did not think about historicity.
We were young athletes and we wanted to win tournaments.
Historicity would not help us win.
Then we would not have learned a new blow in the Italian fencing textbook. There were no strikes that would help us to win.
Therefore, we all came up with ourselves.
They invented various blows and defenses for a long time until a critical moment arrived.
Strong changes to our style of fencing made the rule that you can be in the shin.
Everything has changed a lot.
After a while, a modern duel stance appeared.
Weight on the front leg, flat back. Well, you know.
We just started to get our feet away from the blows.
What happened until we invented this position?
It was a great time for several years, when there was one winning technique.
You cover your head with a shield, sit as low as possible. And in the pose of a crab, beat the opponent in the legs, as quickly as possible!
It worked 90% of the time!
And all because people did not know how to protect their feet and move around the lists.
I have a video. As I will show.
The affected area has become almost complete.
You can not beat the foot.
There was a normal defensive position.
I repeat, I did not read textbooks. Yes, I talked to people and watched the comics of the Renaissance.
And I understood why they have such a position of arms and legs.
It was enough for me.
And over time ... soon 20 years will be.
How long have I been fighting in armor.
My position has become similar to what they draw in textbooks.
I can understand any position that is drawn in these Italian manuscripts.
For 20 years I was engaged in constant practice of fencing. I did not go to another sport.
I did not leave our movement. I was engaged in fencing for 20 years.
And in 20 years, very slowly, I came to the conclusion that I understand the textbooks of the Renaissance.
Italy, Germany. It does not matter.
How to do the opposite, I can not imagine.
I can't understand people who read these manuscripts and just copy postures.
Probably the only thing they can do is imitate comics in these manuscripts.
Their position will be as beautiful as in the picture.
And they come up with situations in their heads, as if they were fighting in reality.
I tell very messy. Imagine that we are talking. More precisely, I say and you listen.
And you ask your questions.
Fencing technique is very dependent on the rules.
The slightest change in the rules changes everything.
As an example. For a very long time, in the "Long Sword" nomination, for hitting any hit zone, they were given just one point.
For a year or two, they give one point for hitting the limbs, and two points for hitting the body or head.
Everything has changed. Tactics, combat technique, everything.
It was not profitable to run up to the enemy and quickly beat him in the thigh.
Now the enemy hits you in the head and earns twice as many points.
And this little change has changed the "picture of the battle" for the better. I think so.
The lower legs became the hit area and this changed everything.
It became easier to hit in the legs.
For several years, it has introduced everyone into a stupor.
How to protect the leg? Shield? They beat you in the head.
it lasted until protective positions were invented.
But if you think so ...
Very few people who really have a high level of understanding of fencing in our discipline.
I think even 10 people are not found.
You can see them in the finals and semi-finals.
These are the people who APPROXIMATEly understand MODERN dueling fencing.
In armor, I mean.
About historicity. We have no stabbing.
I will not say that without stabs everything is lost.
We have fencing.
There is a distance, a strike distance. But somewhere 20% of fencing goes away. I think so.
Without stabbing, probably not so interesting.
Less corpses.
Probably it's time to finish. Oh, the main question is forgotten! How historical is our sport?
Our Fencing
It is very historical!
If a person from 13-15 centuries put in the same conditions. Give the same armor and the same rules ...
After 20 years of practice, he will fight just like us.
And vice versa. If I am with my experience, send me to the conditions in which the 15th century Italian citizen lived ...
If they don't kill me in the first few weeks.
I will very quickly learn how to fight like them.
Only the terms and conditions dictate the technique.
People's arms and legs move in the same way.
As soon as you create the conditions of those times that you are interested. You will work in these conditions. Only then will your technique become historical.
Manuscripts and comics are cool, it raises your cultural level.
You can brag about it to your friends.
You can be proud of it.
But in the end, the masters of various martial arts come to one.
HEMA, stick fight, MMA...
They finally understand that all martial arts are one and the same thing.
Everywhere there is a distance, strikes, interaction with an opponent.
Everything is the same. Just the conditions are different and you need to adapt to them.
We will end on this philosophical note.
And it seems to me that you are bored.
Thoughtful.
My eyes went back centuries.
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