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>> Andrew: ON THIS SUNDAY
NIGHT...
>> THERE'S 11 PEOPLE THAT LOST
THEIR LIVES JUST BECAUSE THEY
ARE JEWISH.
UNBELIEVABLE.
>> Andrew: TRYING TO
COMPREHEND THE HORROR AT A
PITTSBURGH SYNAGOGUE.
HOW THE DEAD ARE BEING
REMEMBERED AND THE ENDURING
HATRED THAT TOOK THEM.
>> I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE PAST
THIS.
>> Andrew: IN A MEETING WITH
HER INSURANCE ADJUSTOR A
BREASTFEEDING MOM IS ASKED TO
LEAVE THE ROOM.
"GO PUBLIC" INVESTIGATES WHY
THIS STILL HAPPENS IN 2018.
[Cheers and Applause]
>> WHAT A WAY TO SAY FAREWELL!
>> Andrew: AND VANCOUVER SAYS
SO LONG TO ALPHONSO DAVIES, A
GENUINE HOMEGROWN PHENOM.
NEXT UP -- THE TOP OF THE SOCCER
WORLD, AND HE'S STILL JUST 17.
>>> THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
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>> BIGOTRY WILL NOT WIN, HATRED
WILL NOT WIN.
[Applause]
>> Andrew: A CLEAR MESSAGE
FROM THE PEOPLE OF PITTSBURGH
TONIGHT AT A MULTI-FAITH VIGIL
ATTENDED BY THOUSANDS -- THEY
WILL NOT GIVE WAY TO HATE OR
GIVE UP ON PEACE IN THE WAKE OF
YESTERDAY'S MASSACRE AT A
SYNAGOGUE.
11 KILLED, SIX WOUNDED.
THE DEADLIEST ANTI-SEMETIC
ATTACK IN THE HISTORY OF THE
UNITED STATES.
WE ARE LEARNING MORE TONIGHT
ABOUT THE VICTIMS OF THE ATTACK,
PEOPLE KILLED WHILE WORSHIPING,
GUNNED DOWN BECAUSE THEY WERE
JEWISH.
AND AMONG THE DEAD, A WOMAN WHO
GREW UP IN CANADA.
75-YEAR-OLD JOYCE FIENBERG WAS
ONCE A MEMBER OF TORONTO'S HOLY
BLOSSOM TEMPLE.
THAT'S WHERE SHE MET AND MARRIED
HER HUSBAND BEFORE MOVING TO THE
U.S.
THE OLDEST VICTIM, 97-YEAR-OLD
ROSE MALINGER, THE FORMER
PRESIDENT OF THE SYNAGOGUE SAYS
THAT SHE WAS A HOLOCAUST
SURVIVOR.
THE YOUNGEST VICTIM, 54-YEAR-OLD
DAVID ROSENTHAL, THAT'S HIM ON
THE LEFT.
HE AND HIS BROTHER CECIL WERE
INSEPERABLE, THEY DIED TOGETHER
YESTERDAY.
AND AMONG THE SEVEN OTHER
CONGREGANTS KILLED, JERRY
RABINWITZ IS BEING REMEMBERED AS
A KIND AND CARING DOCTOR.
AND HUSBAND AND WIFE SYLVAN AND
BERNICE SIMON, MARRIED FOR
ALMOST 62 YEARS.
PAUL HUNTER HAS MORE FROM A CITY
IN PAIN.
>> Reporter: IN PITTSBURGH
TONIGHT, SORROW, DETERMINATION,
AND DEFIANCE.
>> WE WILL DRIVE ANTI-SEMITISM
AND THE HATE OF ANY PEOPLE BACK
TO THE BASEMENT ON THEIR
COMPUTER AND AWAY FROM THE OPEN
DISCUSSIONS AND DIALOGUES AROUND
THIS CITY, AROUND THIS STATE AND
AROUND THIS COUNTRY.
[Applause]
>> Reporter: YESTERDAY'S
SHOOTING RAMPAGE AT THE TREE OF
LIFE SYNAGOGUE, SAY POLICE A
HATE CRIME, DIDN'T JUST LEAVE 11
DEAD, IT LEFT A CITY STUNNED.
THE ACCUSED, ROBERT BOWERS,
REPORTEDLY SHOUTED "ALL JEWS
MUST DIE" AS HE OPENED FIRE.
HE MAY FACE THE DEATH PENALTY.
OUTSIDE THE SYNAGOGUE TODAY
MOURNERS STRUGGLED TO PROCESS
ANY OF IT.
AMONG THEM, CARL AND BELLA
SCHACHTER, BOTH HOLOCAUST
SURVIVORS.
AS CHILDREN HELD IN CAMPS IN
UKRAINE, THEY LATER FLED TO
AMERICA AND SAFETY, BUT NOW
DECADES LATER THIS...
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT I FEEL
TODAY.
I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW.
>> VERY SAD.
IT'S A VERY SAD DAY.
WE ALWAYS SAID "NEVER AGAIN."
BUT IT DID HAPPEN AGAIN.
IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE.
THERE'S 11 PEOPLE THAT LOST
THEIR LIVES JUST BECAUSE THEY
ARE JEWISH.
>> Reporter: COMING AS IT DOES
ON THE HEELS OF THOSE PIPE
BOMBS, SAY POLICE SENT BY A
TRUMP SUPPORTER TO CRITICS OF
DONALD TRUMP, HAS THE AMERICANS
WONDERING WHAT HAS THIS COUNTRY
BECOME.
SAY MANY THE HATE ON DISPLAY
EVER MORE IS FUELLED BY
REGULAR POLARIZING LANGUAGE FROM
THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> WE HAVE A DEMENTED, UNHINGED
INDIVIDUAL WHO IS UNFORTUNATELY
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND WHAT HE IS SETTING AS AN
EXAMPLE IS SIMPLY -- HE'S
INFLAMING WHAT ALWAYS WAS
SUBLIMINALLY PART OF THE
AMERICAN CULTURE.
>> Reporter: EARLIER
PITTSBURGH'S MAYOR PUSHED BACK
AGAINST DONALD TRUMP'S COMMENTS
YESTERDAY THAT IT MAY BE TIME TO
PUT ARMED GUARDS AT SYNAGOGUES.
>> I THINK THAT THE APPROACH
THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT IS
HOW WE TAKE THE GUNS, WHICH IS
THE COMMON DENOMINATOR OF EVERY
MASS SHOOTING IN AMERICA, OUT OF
THE HANDS OF THOSE THAT ARE
LOOKING TO EXPRESS HATRED
THROUGH MURDER.
>> Reporter: MEANWHILE
AMERICANS THEMSELVES SEEM TO BE
LOSING FAITH THAT ANY OF THIS
CAN EVER BE TURNED AROUND.
>> HATE SPEECH AND A GUN CULTURE
BRINGS THE POSSIBILITY OF MAYHEM
AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE
MAYHEM.
>> Reporter: TONIGHT ROBERT
BOWERS IS UNDER GUARD IN
HOSPITAL, RECOVERING FROM WOUNDS
IN A POLICE SHOOTOUT AS THE
RAMPAGE HERE ENDED LAST NIGHT.
HE'S SCHEDULED FOR A COURT
APPEARANCE TOMORROW.
ANDREW?
>> Andrew: PAUL, WE GOT A
SENSE IN YOUR PIECE HOW PEOPLE
ARE COPING BUT YOU'VE BEEN THERE
ALL DAY AND I WANT TO JUST ASK
YOU OUTRIGHT -- HOW ARE PEOPLE
COPING?
>> Reporter: BARELY, RIGHT?
THIS SEEMS TO HAVE REALLY RIPPED
INTO THIS CITY.
IT'S JUST SO SAD HERE TONIGHT.
BUT I'VE GOT TO SAY THAT IT'S A
FEELING THAT I HAVE SEEN BEFORE
IN OTHER CITIES WHERE THERE'S
BEEN OTHER MASS SHOOTINGS AND
THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF THEM, BUT
THERE'S A RECOGNITION HERE THAT
SEEMS TO MAKE IT WORSE WHICH IS
THAT, YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE YET
AGAIN.
>> Andrew: HAS ANYONE EXPECTED
ANY FALLOUT FROM THIS
POLITICALLY, I MEAN, IN
WASHINGTON?
>> Reporter: YEAH, WELL, FROM
EVERYONE THAT I TALKED TO, IT
WAS LOST ON NO ONE THAT THE
MIDTERMS ARE COMING UP AND SO
THEY SAY, VOTE, VOTE YOUR
CONSCIENCE.
IF YOU LINK HATE WITH PRESIDENT
TRUMP, GET OUT AND VOTE, MAKE
YOUR FEELINGS KNOWN AT THE
BALLOT BOX.
THEY TELL ME IT'S THE ONLY
RESPONSE THEY'VE GOT.
>> Andrew: OKAY, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
CBC'S PAUL HUNTER IN PITTSBURGH
TONIGHT.
THE HORROR OF THE PITTSBURGH
ATTACK IS BEING FELT IN JEWISH
COMMUNITIES AROUND THE WORLD
AND, OF COURSE, HERE IN CANADA
AS WELL.
>> I WANTED TO STAND IN UNITY
WITH THE PEOPLE OF SQUIRREL
HILL.
I THINK THAT IT'S SUCH A TRAGEDY
AND IT BREAKS MY HEART.
>> WE ALL HAVE TO ACT, WE ALL
HAVE TO RAISE OUR VOICES AGAINST
-- AGAINST WHAT'S GOING ON IN
THE WORLD TODAY.
>> BECAUSE EVERY JEW IS AFFECTED
BY THIS.
NO ONE -- AND NO ONE IS FREE
FROM HARM.
EVEN HERE, CAN YOU HAVE GUARDS
ALL THE TIME, ARMED GUARDS?
>> Andrew: A PART OF MAKING
SENSE OF WHAT HAPPENED WILL
INVOLVE UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY
HOW IT HAPPENED.
LEADING UP TO THE SHOOTING,
CERTAINLY, BUT ALSO CONSIDER
WHAT THE PANIC OF THE MOMENT
MUST HAVE BEEN LIKE.
AT 9:54 a.m., DOZENS OF 911
CALLS BEGIN TO POUR IN.
WITHIN A MINUTE TWO POLICE CARS
PULL UP AND THEN A FEW MINUTES
LATER, JUST BEFORE 10:00, THE
SUSPECT EXITS THE SYNAGOGUE AND
CONFRONTS THEM.
>> WE'RE UNDER FIRE.
HE'S GOT AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON.
>> Andrew: THE SUSPECT FLEES
BACK INTO THE BUILDING AND MORE
POLICE ARRIVE, INCLUDING
TACTICAL UNITS.
>> POLICE CARS EVERYWHERE AND
THERE WERE GUNS AND RIFLES
DRAWN.
>> Andrew: INTELLIGENCE FROM
911 CALLS IS RELAYED TO THE
SCENE.
AT ABOUT 10:30, A S.W.A.T. TEAM
GOES IN WHILE PATROL POLICE
FOCUS ON HELPING SURVIVORS.
>> WE'RE EVACING ONE RIGHT NOW
WHO IS STILL ALIVE.
WE HAVE AT LEAST FOUR DOWN IN
THE ATRIUM D.O.A. AT THIS TIME.
>> Andrew: THE S.W.A.T.
OFFICERS, THEY FIND THE
SUSPECT ON THE THIRD FLOOR.
>> C'MON, WE'VE GOT A GUY
BARRICADED ACTIVELY SHOOTING AT
S.W.A.T. OPERATORS.
>> ALL RIGHT, BE ADVISED THAT WE
HAVE A SUSPECT GIVING US HANDS
IN VIEW.
WE WILL NEGOTIATE A SURRENDER AT
THIS TIME.
WE HAVE A SURRENDER IN PROGRESS.
SUSPECT IS CRAWLING OUT AT THIS
TIME.
>> Andrew: ONE DIFFICULT TASK
GOING FORWARD WILL BE TO
UNDERSTAND ROBERT BOWERS
HIMSELF.
IT TURNED OUT THAT HE USED THE
LITTLE KNOWN SOCIAL NETWORK TO
SHARE ANTI-SEMETIC MESSAGES.
IT'S CALLED "GAB" AND IT'S
BILLED AS A PLACE WHERE ALL
SPEECH IS
WELCOME.
BUT AS TALIA RICCI TELLS US IT
MAY BE MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
>> Reporter: NOT LONG BEFORE
THE DEADLY SYNAGOGUE SHOOTING
ROBERT BOWERS LOGGED ON TO GAB
AND HE WROTE, "I CAN'T SIT BY
AND WATCH MY PEOPLE GET
SLAUGHTERED.
SCREW YOUR OPTICS, I'M GOING
IN."
MANY OF HIS PREVIOUS POSTS WERE
ANTI-SEMETIC AND PRO-GUN.
>> GAB IS ONE OF THE NEW FORUMS
TO EMERGE ONCE IT BECAME
APPARENT THAT, YOU KNOW, MORE
TRADITIONAL SORT OF MAIN STREET
-- MAINSTREAM, IF YOU WILL,
SOCIAL PLATFORMS
WOULD BOUNCE EXTREME MEMBERS OF
THE FAR RIGHT.
>> Reporter: BARBARA PERRY HAS
BEEN RESEARCHING GAB FOR MONTHS.
SHE SAYS IT'S A HOTBED FOR FAR
RIGHT CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
SOME OF IT INTENSELY
ANTI-SEMETIC AND IT'S NOT ALONE.
>> WHEN THEY GET CLOSED OFF FROM
ONE THEY MOVE ON TO ANOTHER.
>> Reporter: GAB SAYS THAT IT
CHAMPIONS FREE SPEECH AND
INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY.
NOW IT'S DEFENDING ITSELF,
SAYING THAT IT HAS A ZERO
TOLERANCE POLICY FOR TERRORISM
AND VIOLENCE.
>> WE'RE VERY SADDENED AND
DISGUSTED BY THE NEWS OF
VIOLENCE IN PITTSBURGH.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
F.B.I. AND THE U.S. DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE ALL DAY LONG TO
ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THE
INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED.
>> A SOCIAL MEDIA FOOTPRINT FOR
INVESTIGATORS IS THE TREASURE
TROVE.
THIS IS WHERE SOMEONE APPARENTLY
MAY HONESTLY TELL YOU WHO THEY
ARE, WHAT THEY THINK, WHAT THEIR
MOTIVES ARE.
>> Reporter: PAYPAL CONFIRMED
TO CBC NEWS TODAY THAT IT HAS
CANCELLED GAB'S ACCOUNT.
GAB'S HOST SERVER ANNOUNCED THAT
IT'S SUSPENDING THE SITE BUT
EXPERTS SAY THAT IT CAN BE RISKY
TO SILENCE PLATFORMS LIKE GAB
BECAUSE THAT COULD TURN
POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS USERS TO
DEEPER, DARKER CORNERS OF THE
INTERNET.
>> IT ALSO HAS THE POTENTIAL AS
WE HAVE SEEN TO FEED THAT VICTIM
STATUS, THAT VICTIM MENTALITY
THAT THEY HAVE, THAT NOW THEY'RE
THE TARGETS AND NOW THEY'RE THE
ONES WHO ARE BEING SILENCED.
>> Reporter: THE SITE STILL
APPEARS TO BE OPERATING.
IN TWEETS GAB SAID THAT IT'S
ALREADY FOUND A NEW HOST.
EVEN AS SCRUTINY MOUNTS ON IT
AND OTHER SITES LIKE IT.
TALIA RICCI, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Andrew: NOW THE SUSPECT HAS
BEEN CHARGED WITH HATE CRIMES
BUT NOT TERRORISM AND YOU MIGHT
ASK WHY.
WELL, IN THE U.S. A HATE CRIME
IS ONE INSPIRED BY AN
INDIVIDUAL'S BIAS AGAINST A
RACE, ETHNIC GROUP OR A
RELIGION.
BUT TERRORISM IS CONNECTED TO
IDEOLOGY THAT THE PERSON IS
TRYING TO PROPAGATE THROUGH
VIOLENCE.
AND FOR NOW AT LEAST THE
PROSECUTORS DON'T SEE THAT.
ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE
A LOT AHEAD FOR YOU TONIGHT ON
"THE NATIONAL"...
>>> THEY SAVED THOUSANDS OF
LIVES IN SYRIA, VOLUNTARILY
PUTTING THEMSELVES IN DANGER IN
A WAR ZONE.
WE'RE THERE AS SOME WHITE
HELMETS ARRIVE HERE IN CANADA TO
START A NEW LIFE.
>>> ALSO A FOND FAREWELL TONIGHT
TO ALPHONSO DAVIES.
VANCOUVER SAYS "THANK YOU" TO
THE TEENAGED SOCCER STAR AS HE
PREPARES TO TAKE ON THE BEST IN
THE WORLD.
>>> FIRST THOUGH, A CALGARY
WOMAN IS GOING "PUBLIC" WITH A
EXPERIENCE THAT SHE SAYS LEFT
HER FEELING HUMILIATED.
SHE SAID THAT SHE WAS MEETING
WITH HER
INSURANCE ADJUSTOR WHEN HE ASKED
HER TO NOT BREASTFEED HER BABY
IN HIS OFFICE.
MAYBE YOU THINK THAT IS AN OPEN
AND SHUT CASE OF DISCRIMINATION,
BUT AS ROSA MARCHITELLI FOUND
OUT, CANADA'S HUMAN RIGHTS LAWS
AREN'T QUITE SO CRYSTAL CLEAR.
>> Reporter: THIS MOM OF THREE
HAS NEVER GIVEN A SECOND THOUGHT
TO BREASTFEEDING HER KIDS UNTIL
HER INSURANCE ADJUSTOR TRIED
KICKING HER OUT OF A MEETING IN
HIS OFFICE FOR DOING JUST THAT.
HER HUSBAND AND DAUGHTERS WERE
ALSO IN THE ROOM.
>> TOTALLY EMBARRASSED AND
FEELING LIKE
I DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER MY OWN
LIFE, OVER MY SON'S LIFE.
>> Reporter: SHE WAS RECORDING
THE MEETING TO HAVE A RECORD OF
THE CLAIM.
THE INSURANCE ADJUSTOR WALKS
BACK INTO THE ROOM AFTER GETTING
SOME PAPERWORK AND REALIZES THAT
THE BABY IS NURSING UNDER HIS
MOTHER'S HEADSCARF.
>> AT THIS POINT, ASHLY, I DO
HAVE TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE THE
ROOM
BECAUSE THIS IS MAKING ME VERY
UNCOMFORTABLE.
THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL
ENVIRONMENT AND IT FEELS LIKE
THIS IS PARTICULARLY UNNECESSARY
AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
>> SO I CAN'T RECORD BUT YOU CAN
RECORD?
>> NO.
IT APPEARS THAT YOU'RE
BREASTFEEDING YOUR CHILD.
>> YOU'RE KICKING ME OUT FOR
BREASTFEEDING WHILE COVERED?
>> Reporter: DOES IT SURPRISE
YOU THAT IN 2018 THAT YOU HAVE
THIS CONVERSATION?
>> ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.
YEAH.
I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE PAST
THIS.
>> Reporter: THIS
BREASTFEEDING ADVOCATE BELIEVES
THAT THIS IS A CLEAR CASE OF
DISCRIMINATION.
>> WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT
THEY CAN'T DISCRIMINATE ON THE
BASIS OF SEX, JUST LIKE THEY
CAN'T DISCRIMINATE ON THE BASIS
OF
COLOUR OR RELIGION OR ANY OTHER,
YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR HUMANITY.
>> Reporter: BUT THIS ACADEMIC
SAYS THAT THE LAWS AREN'T CLEAR
ENOUGH.
WHILE A FEW PROVINCES DO HAVE
BREASTFEEDING DISCRIMINATION IN
THEIR POLICIES, IT'S NOT
SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED IN ANY
HUMAN RIGHTS LAWS.
INSTEAD, IT'S ASSUMED TO BE
COVERED UNDER SEX
DISCRIMINATION.
AMAR KHODAY SAYS THAT NEEDS TO
CHANGE.
>> MOTHERS WILL KNOW THAT
THEY'RE PROTECTED UNDER THE
HUMAN RIGHTS ACT, THE ONE THAT
APPLIES TO THE SITUATION, BUT IN
ADDITION TO THAT IT GIVES GOOD
GUIDANCE FOR EMPLOYERS AS WELL
AS SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT THEY
TOO HAVE CERTAIN OBLIGATIONS
THEY HAVE TO MEET.
>> Reporter: THE LAWS ARE ALSO
UNCLEAR ON WHAT IS A PRIVATE
VERSUS A PUBLIC AREA, ACCORDING
TO LAWYER BARBARA GREEN WHO
SPECIALIZES IN HUMAN RIGHTS
COMPLAINTS.
>> WHAT IS AMBIGUOUS HERE IS
THIS IS A PRIVATE OFFICE OF
WHAT APPEARS TO BE A PUBLIC
SERVICE PROVIDER.
>> Reporter: AFTER "GO PUBLIC"
CONTACTED THE ALBERTA MOTOR
ASSOCIATION, A PRIVATE INSURANCE
COMPANY, IT APOLOGIZED TO
SPENCER COSGROVE SAYING, "WE
BELIEVE FUNDAMENTALLY IN THE
IMPORTANCE OF THIS ISSUE AND
UNEQUIVOCALLY SUPPORT A WOMAN'S
RIGHT TO BREASTFEED AT ANY TIME
AND AT ANY PLACE OF HER
CHOOSING."
IT ALSO SAYS THAT IT'S NOW
REVIEWING ITS EMPLOYEE EDUCATION
PROGRAMMES AND POLICIES.
ROSA MARCHITELLI, CBC NEWS,
CALGARY.
>> Andrew: A LOT OF THESE
STORIES JUST LIKE THIS ONE COME
FROM YOU, OUR VIEWERS.
SO IF YOU WANT TO GET IN TOUCH
WITH THE "GO PUBLIC" TEAM, DROP
THEM AN EMAIL AT
GOPUBLIC@CBC.CA.
>>> OKAY, LET'S TURN NOW TO A
STORY THAT IS A
CONTINUING FRUSTRATION FOR WOULD
BE PARENTS IN THIS COUNTRY.
THERE ARE AN ESTIMATED 40,000
ABANDONED CHILDREN IN PAKISTAN
AND CANADIAN FAMILIES ARE EAGER
TO ADOPT THEM.
BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS
STANDING IN THE WAY, BLOCKING
ADOPTIONS FROM SEVERAL MUSLIM
COUNTRIES.
EVEN ADOPTIONS WHERE THE PARENTS
AND CHILDREN WERE ALREADY
MATCHED UP.
HABIBA NOSHEEN FROM THE CBC'S
"FIFTH ESTATE" LOOKS
AT WHAT IS DONE FOR THESE
FAMILIES IN LIMBO.
>> Reporter: SOME OF THIS
CANADIAN MOM'S FONDEST CHILDHOOD
MEMORIES ARE FROM HERE.
WE'RE CALLING HER "SARAH."
SHE LONGS FOR HER SON TO
EXPERIENCE THEM TOO.
>> IT'S HARD ENJOYING ALL OF THE
THINGS THAT I ENJOYED AS A
CHILD, THAT I THINK THAT HE
WOULD ENJOY, AND NOT BEING ABLE
TO ENJOY IT AS THREE GENERATIONS
TOGETHER AS A FAMILY.
>> Reporter: OVER THE PAST SIX
YEARS, SARAH AND HER FATHER HAVE
BEEN FIGHTING TO BRING HER
ADOPTED SON FROM PAKISTAN TO
CANADA.
BUT CANADA REFUSES TO RECOGNIZE
HER ADOPTION.
SARAH ASKED US NOT TO REVEAL HER
IDENTITY BECAUSE SHE WORRIES
THAT IT COULD HURT HER CHANCES
OF FINALLY BRINGING HER SON
HOME.
>> I AT LEAST EXPECTED THAT THE
ACTUAL ROADBLOCK WAS GOING TO
COME FROM MY OWN GOVERNMENT.
>> Reporter: "THE FIFTH
ESTATE" OBTAINED GOVERNMENT
DOCUMENTS TO TRY TO FIND OUT
WHY.
CANADIANS HAD BEEN ADOPTING FROM
PAKISTAN FOR DECADES AND THEN IN
2013 WITH NO WARNING, CANADA
HALTED ADOPTIONS FROM THERE.
ACCORDING TO CANADA, PAKISTANI
LAW DOES NOT ALLOW ADOPTIONS.
>> TAKE A LOOK AT 137 WHERE
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT SHARIA
LAW.
>> Reporter: THE ANNOUNCEMENT
WAS USHERED IN QUIETLY.
CANADA CONCLUDED THAT SHARIA LAW
DOESN'T ALLOW ADOPTIONS,
THEREFORE, NO MORE ADOPTIONS
FROM PAKISTAN.
IT DOESN'T END THERE.
LAWYER HAIDAH AMIRZADEH
REPRESENTS FAMILIES
WHO HAVE ADOPTED FROM OTHER
MUSLIM COUNTRIES AND HAVE BEEN
UNABLE TO BRING THEIR CHILD TO
CANADA.
I'M TRYING TO MAKE SENSE WHY THE
CANADIAN GOVERNMENT IS IN THE
BUSINESS OF INTERPRETING SHARIA
LAW?
>> I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS
POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.
>> Reporter: BY WHO?
FOR WHA
>> I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS
POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.
>> Reporter: BY WHO?
FOR WHAT PURPOSE?
>> BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.
TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM MUSLIM
MAJORITY COUNTRIES TO BE ADOPTED
TO COME TO CANADA.
>> Reporter: WHEN THE BAN WAS
USHERED IN UNDER THE HARPER
GOVERNMENT THE CURRENT
GOVERNMENT HAS UPHELD THE SAME
POLICY FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
THE MINISTER OF IMMIGRATION
AHMED HUSSEN REFUSED OUR REQUEST
FOR AN ON-CAMERA INTERVIEW AND
INSTEAD HIS OFFICE SENT US THIS
STATEMENT SAYING, QUOTE, "WE
HAVE ASKED THE DEPARTMENT TO
INITIATE A REVIEW OF THIS POLICY
TO DETERMINE A PATH FORWARD TO
REGULARIZE ADOPTIONS FROM
PAKISTAN."
MEANWHILE IF SARAH ISN'T
SUCCESSFUL IN BRINGING HER SON
TO CANADA SHE KNOWS THAT SHE
COULD BE THE SECOND MOTHER IN
HER SON'S LIFE WHO HAVE
ABANDONED HIM.
"THE FIFTH ESTATE" INVESTIGATION
FOUND THAT ADOPTIONS AREN'T JUST
BLOCKED FROM PAKISTAN BUT FROM
MANY OTHER MUSLIM COUNTRIES
INCLUDING
YEMEN, MOROCCO, ALGERIA, FOR
SIMILAR REASONS.
THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT
TELLING FAMILIES THAT SHARIA LAW
DOESN'T ALLOW ADOPTIONS.
>> Andrew: WHAT ABOUT SARAH'S
PARTICULAR CASE WHERE EVERYTHING
SEEMED TO BE GOING OKAY FOLLOW
IT WEREN'T ANY LONGER.
IS HER CASE UNIQUE IN THAT
SENSE?
>> Reporter: WE WANTED TO FIND
OUT AND WE REQUESTED DOCUMENTS
FROM THE GOVERNMENT, MEMOS,
EMAILS, INTERNAL EMAILS, THAT
WERE SENT
AT THE TIME OF THIS BAN.
WHAT WE LEARNED IS THAT
ACCORDING TO THE CANADIAN
GOVERNMENT'S ESTIMATE AT THAT
TIME IN 2013 WHEN THIS BAN CAME
INTO PLACE, THAT THERE WERE 54
FAMILIES WHO HAD ALREADY BEEN
APPROVED FOR ADOPTION FROM
PAKISTAN WHO ARE NOW GOING TO BE
CAUGHT UP IN THIS.
AND THIS IS JUST FOR THE CASE IN
PAKISTAN.
>> Andrew: RIGHT.
SO HOW ARE OTHER WESTERN
COUNTRIES DEALING WITH THIS BAN,
PARTICULARLY WITH PAKISTAN?
>> Reporter: YOU KNOW, CANADA
IS KIND OF ALONE ON THIS AND
EVEN THEY HAD BEEN DOING
ADOPTIONS
FROM PAKISTAN BEFORE THIS BAN
WAS ANNOUNCED.
THE U.K., THE U.S. HAVE ALL DONE
ADOPTIONS AND
RAISED NO CONCERNS SIMILAR TO
WHAT CANADA HAS BEEN SAYING FOR
THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
>> Andrew: I MEAN, VERY
QUICKLY, THE GOVERNMENT HAS SAID
TO
YOU THAT THERE'S A REVIEW
UNDERWAY?
HOW LONG IS THAT EXPECTED TO
TAKE?
>> Reporter: NO IDEA.
WE ASKED FOR FOLLOW-UP ON HOW
LONG DO THEY EXPECT THIS TO TAKE
AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE
FAMILIES WHO WE SPOKE TO IN OUR
INVESTIGATION.
AND WE GOT NO
RESPONSE, BUT WE'LL STAY ON
THAT.
>> Andrew: HABIBA, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
>> Reporter: THANK YOU,
ANDREW.
>> Andrew: YOU CAN WATCH THE
FULL STORY ONLINE, JUST HEAD
OVER TO CBC.CA/FIFTH.
>>> NOW LET'S GO TO RENÉE
FILIPPONE IN VANCOUVER AND SHE
WATCHES DEVELOPING STORIES FOR
US ON SUNDAY NIGHTS.
>> Reporter: WELL, A PLANE
WITH 188 PEOPLE ONBOARD HAS
CRASHED OFF THE COAST OF
INDONESIA.
LION AIR SAY THEY LOST CONTACT
WITH THE BOEING 737 80013
MINUTES AFTER IT TOOK OFF FROM
JAKARTA.
THE PILOT HAD JUST REQUESTED TO
RETURN TO THE AIRPORT AND
THERE'S NO WORD ON SURVIVORS.
A SEARCH IS UNDERWAY WHERE
DEBRIS THOUGHT TO BE FROM THE
PLANE, INCLUDING AIRCRAFT SEATS
AND PERSONAL ITEMS HAVE BEEN
FOUND.
IT'S UNCLEAR WHAT CAUSED THE
CRASH BUT THE PLANE WAS NEARLY
BRAND NEW.
>> Andrew: AHEAD TONIGHT ON
"THE NATIONAL"... AN IN-DEPTH
LOOK AT THE POWER OF AYAHUASCA,
A POWERFUL HALLUCINOGEN.
WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE TAKING
IT?
MARK KELLEY TAKES US INSIDE OF A
SPECIAL CEREMONY TO FIND OUT.
>>> AND A LITTLE LATER... THEY
RISKED EVERYTHING TO SAVE LIVES
IN SYRIA AND NOW THEY'RE
STARTING A NEW LIFE OF THEIR OWN
HERE IN CANADA.
WE'RE THERE AS THE WHITE HELMETS
ARRIVE.
FIRST THOUGH... 17 AND READY TO
TAKE ON THE WORLD.
SOCCER STAR ALPHONSO DAVIES SAYS
FAREWELL TO VANCOUVER.
>> ALL THE WAY... WHAT A PERFECT
WAY TO SAY FAREWELL!
[Cheers and Applause]
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>> I JUST WANT TO WISH YOU GOOD
LUCK ON YOUR NEXT CHAPTER.
YOU HAVE BEEN DOING YOUR THING
HERE IN VANCOUVER SO I WANT TO
WISH YOU THE BEST LUCK IN
GERMANY.
BAYERN MUNICH WILL TAKE GOOD
CARE OF YOU.
>> I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON
AN AMAZING START TO YOUR CAREER
AND GOOD LUCK IN GERMANY.
>> Andrew: TWO GREAT CANADIAN
ATHLETES SAYING GOODBYE TO A
THIRD.
TODAY EDMONTON-RAISED ALPHONSO
DAVIES PLAYED HIS LAST GAME WITH
THE VANCOUVER WHITECAPS.
IN ONE OF THE BIGGEST DEALS IN
MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER, THE
17-YEAR-OLD IS BOUND FOR GERMANY
AND THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE.
BUT FIRST BRIAR STEWART WAS AT
B.C.
PLACE FOR THE SENDOFF.
>> OH, MY GOSH...
(*)
>> Reporter: IT'S NOT OFTEN
THAT WHEN A TEAM IS ALREADY OUT
OF THE PLAYOFFS THAT THE FINAL
GAME OF THE SEASON ATTRACTS THIS
KIND OF CROWD AND EXCITEMENT.
BUT THESE FANS ARE HERE TO WATCH
ALPHONSO DAVIES PLAY ONE LAST
TIME IN VANCOUVER AND WISH HIM
LUCK FOR WHAT'S NEXT.
>> I MEAN, IT'S BEEN AMAZING
BECAUSE HE KIND OF CHANGED THE
GAME.
>> IT'S PRETTY COOL TO SEE
SOMEBODY THAT WENT THROUGH SO
MUCH MAKE IT IN CANADA AND THEN
GO TO EUROPE.
>> HOPEFULLY HE'LL SCORE A GOAL
TODAY AND LEAVE US A GOOD
MEMORY.
>> Reporter: DAVIES WAS BORN
IN A REFUGEE CAMP IN GHANA.
HE GREW UP IN EDMONTON WHERE
COACHES REALISED EARLY ON THAT
HE HAD SOMETHING SPECIAL.
WHICH IS WHY AT JUST 14 HE CAME
TO VANCOUVER TO PLAY FOR THE
WHITECAPS.
THREE YEARS LATER WITH HIS
FAMILY AT HIS SIDE HE GOT SET TO
PLAY HIS FINAL GAME HERE, HE WAS
DESTINED FOR ONE OF THE WORLD'S
GREAT TEAMS, BUNDESLIGA.
HE WAS SIGNED TO THE GERMAN
POWERHOUSE IN M.L.S.
RECORD-SETTING TRANSFER DEAL
WITH MORE THAN $22 MILLION U.S.
AND TODAY ON THE VANCOUVER
PITCH HIS TALENT WAS ON FULL
DISPLAY.
>> DAVIES ALL THE WAY!
WHAT A PERFECT WAY TO SAY
FAREWELL!
>> Reporter: HE SCORED TWO
GOALS IN THE FIRST HALF.
>> AGAIN!
>> Reporter: LEADING THE
WHITECAPS TO A 2-1 VICTORY OVER
PORTLAND.
AND LONG AFTER THE GAME
ENDED, THE CROWD AND DAVIES
PARENTS STAYED ON THEIR FEET.
>> THEY JUST SAID THEY'RE PROUD
OF ME AND CONGRATULATIONS AND I
WOULD LIKE TO SEE MY MOM TRY TO
PICK ME UP.
BUT I'M A BIG BOY NOW AND NOT
HER LITTLE BABY ANYMORE.
>> Reporter: WHILE HE'S HEADED
TO GERMANY THERE'S STILL PLENTY
FOR CANADIAN FANS TO LOOK
FORWARD TO.
DAVIES IS STILL ONLY 17 YEARS
OLD AND HE'LL BE BACK POISED TO
BE A STAR PLAYER ON CANADA'S
NATIONAL TEAM.
BRIAR STEWART, CBC NEWS,
VANCOUVER.
>> Andrew: OH, TO BE IN THAT
STADIUM FOR THAT!
>>> UP NEXT ON "THE NATIONAL,"
WE EXPLORE THE LURE OF
AYAHUASCA, A HALLUCINOGENIC TEA.
IT'S GROWING IN POPULARITY WITH
PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THAT IT HAS
HEALING POWER.
MARK KELLEY GOES IN-DEPTH AT AN
ILLEGAL CEREMONY HERE IN NORTH
AMERICA.
>> I WOULD TONE OUT AND I WOULD
FEEL THE LOVE WITH
A TEAR COMING OUT OF MY EYE AND
I WAS RESET.
AND I JUST FELT ALL OF THIS LOVE
AND IT WAS LIKE YOU'RE CURED.
(*)
(*)
>> I JUST DECIDED TO JUST STOP
WHAT I WAS DOING AND I'M GOING
TO MAKE A CAREER CHANGE TO
BECOME AN ADDICTIONS COUNSELLOR.
>> Andrew: SEBASTIAN WOODROFFE
WAS FROM BRITISH COLUMBIA.
HE WANTED TO BE A HEALER, THAT
LED HIM TO PERU WHERE HE SOUGHT
OUT INDIGENOUS TEACHERS AND
MIND-ALTERING DRUGS.
BUT WHEN ONE OF THE AMAZON'S
MOST RENOWNED SHAMANS ENDED UP
DEAD, WOODROFFE WAS BLAMED AND
THEN LYNCHED BY AN ANGRY MOB.
EARLIER THIS EVENING THE CBC'S
"FIFTH ESTATE" EXPLORED
SEBASTIAN WOODROFFE'S TERRIBLE
STORY AND NOW WE'LL PICK UP ON
ONE PARTICULAR DETAIL.
HE WAS APPARENTLY IN THE GRIPS
OF A CONTROVERSIAL HALLUCINOGEN
CALLED AYAHUASCA WHICH SOME
BELIEVE HELPS WITH A HOST OF
MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, BUT AS
MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE DRAWN
TO IT, EVEN HERE IN CANADA,
THERE'S A GROWING WORRY ABOUT
WHAT IS AN ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE IN
THIS COUNTRY.
MARK KELLEY HAS THIS EXCLUSIVE
REPORT.
(*)
>> Reporter: TO SOME THIS IS A
SACRED CEREMONY CONSUMING A
PLANT MEDICINE FROM THE AMAZON.
IT'S CALLED AYAHUASCA.
IT'S ILLEGAL IN CANADA, BUT
COULD THIS ANCIENT BREW BE
EMBRACED HERE ONE DAY BY MODERN
MEDICINE?
>> YOU COULD SEE BAD THINGS AND
YOU COULD SEE GOOD THINGS BUT
THAT'S WHAT THE MEDICINE GIVES
YOU.
IT GIVES YOU WHAT YOU REALLY
NEED.
>> Reporter: YEARS AGO YOU
WOULD HAVE BEEN HARD PRESSED TO
FIND AN AYAHUASCA CEREMONY BEING
HELD OUTSIDE OF THE AMAZON.
BUT NOW MORE AND MORE PEOPLE
BELIEVE IN THE POWER AND THE
PROMISE OF THE PLANT.
AND THAT'S BROUGHT US HERE TO
THE SUBURBS OF NEW YORK CITY AND
TONIGHT WE'RE GETTING RARE
ACCESS TO ONE OF THOSE
CEREMONIES.
>> HEY, HOW ARE YOU DOING?
>> Reporter: I'M MARK, NICE TO
MEET YOU.
I'M HERE FOR A NIGHT OF
DISCOVERY WITH A HEALER NAMED
JORDAN, AND HIS APPRENTICE AND A
POTTEN BREW OF
JUNGLE MEDICINE AYAHUASCA.
IT'S GOING TO BE A WILD NIGHT.
THIS IS THE AYAHUASCA?
>> YEAH, THE AYAHUASCA, PREMADE
AND EVERYTHING AND BREWED.
>> Reporter: AYAHUASCA IS MADE
BY COMBINING AMAZONIAN ROOTS AND
LEAVES WHICH WHEN BOILED
TOGETHER PRODUCE A NATURALLY
OCCURRING PSYCHEDELIC CALLED
D.M.T.
(*)
WHAT'S CONSIDERED NATURAL IN THE
JUNGLE SEEMS A LITTLE UNUSUAL IN
A LONG ISLAND KITCHEN.
AS THE BREW IS BLESSED WITH
CEREMONIAL TOBACCO.
AYAHUASCA HAS A SLUDGY
CONSISTENCY.
IT SMELLS RESINY.
I'M TOLD THAT IT TASTES LIKE THE
JUNGLE.
AND SOME BELIEVE THAT IT CAN
CHANGE YOUR LIFE, JUST ASK
BJORN.
>> IT CLEANSES YOU AND GETS RID
OF ALL OF THE BAD STUFF.
>> Reporter: HE GREW UP IN
LONG ISLAND, RAN WITH A ROUGH
CROWD.
A BULLET IN HIS SPINE SPARKED A
SPIRALLING DEPENDENCE ON HEROIN
TO
HELP TO HEAL HIS CHRONIC PAIN.
YOU WERE ADDICTED?
>> ADDICTED AND IT'S LIKE A
NEVER-ENDING CIRCLE.
IN AND OUT OF JAIL, BACK AND
FORTH, AND THEN IT WAS KIND OF
STRANGE WHEN I WENT TO JAIL AND
I MET SOME GUY IN THERE AND HE
TOLD ME ABOUT AYAHUASCA.
AND SAID YOU USE A SHAMAN AND HE
SAID IF I WOULD DO AYAHUASCA I
WOULDN'T BE ADDICTED TO HEROIN
NO MORE.
I SAID, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
>> Reporter: WHEN BJORN WAS
RELEASED IN 2007 HE ORDERED SOME
AYAHUASCA ONLINE AND DOVE RIGHT
IN.
HE LANDED IN A SEA OF
SELF-DISCOVERY AND RIDING THE
WAVES OF POWERFUL
HALLUCINATIONS.
>> I WAS JUST TORN OUT IN THE
UNIVERSE AND PUT BACK
TOGETHER AND I JUST FELT THE
LOVE WITH A TEAR COMING OUT OF
MY EYE.
I WAS RESET.
AND I JUST FELT ALL OF THIS LOVE
AND I'M LIKE, YOU'RE CURED.
>> Reporter: YOU BELIEVE THAT
IT'S THE AYAHUASCA THAT HAS
HEALED YOU OF YOUR DRUG
ADDICTION?
>> YES, BUT YOU GOT TO WANT IT
AND YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, JUST
THINK THAT IT'S A MAGIC PILL AND
IT'S GOING TO WORK AND THIS AND
THAT.
YOU'VE GOT TO ALSO WORK WITH IT.
THE BIGGEST PART IS THAT IT
GIVES YOU SPIRITUAL AWAKENING.
>> Reporter: THAT'S A PRETTY
BOLD CLAIM BUT ITS TESTIMONIALS
LIKE BJORN'S THAT FOR SO MANY
ARE BUILDING THE AURA AND THE
APPEAL
OF AYAHUASCA.
(*)
IT'S BELIEVED THAT AYAHUASCA HAS
BEEN USED FOR CENTURIES BY
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE IN THE AMAZON
WHERE IT'S REFERRED TO AS "THE
MEDICINE."
THE HALLUCINATION SEEN AS A
GATEWAY TO SPIRITUAL GROWTH AND
HEALING.
CEREMONIES IN NORTH AMERICA ARE
A RELATIVELY NEW THING.
WILL THE EXPERIENCE BE THE SAME?
WELL, THAT'S WHAT THESE PEOPLE
ARE HERE TO FIND OUT.
JUSTIN ABAD IS STRUGGLING WITH
ADDICTION ISSUES.
>> IT WAS DRUGS AT ONE POINT,
LIKE COCAINE AND THINGS OF THAT
SORT.
AND NOW IT'S SHIFTED TOWARDS
THIS.
>> Reporter: HAVE YOU TRIED
MORE CONVENTIONAL TREATMENTS?
>> YES.
THERAPY AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.
AND IT JUST FELT UNCOMFORTABLE
TO ME.
>> Reporter: MARIA MAUREEN'S
CURIOSITY ABOUT AYAHUASCA LED
HER TO BJORN.
>> I NEED TO LOOK INSIDE OF ME
AND I NEED TO SEE WHAT IT IS, IF
THERE'S MORE TO IT.
>> Reporter: IN THIS CRAMPED
SUBURBAN SUNROOM, THE MOST
UNLIKELY OF HEALING SETTINGS,
SOME LEANING AGAINST A HOT-TUB
THE AYAHUASCA BEGINS TO TAKE
EFFECT.
THAT MEANS PURGING, VIOLENT
VOMITING.
A PRELUDE TO THE VISIONS OR THE
HALLUCINATIONS THAT FOR SOME
CAN TRIGGER A TRANSFORMATION.
IT'S NOT JUST ME THAT IS
WATCHING THIS INTENTLY.
SO TOO ARE SCIENTISTS.
HAVE YOU EVER TRIED IT?
>> YES.
>> Reporter: WHAT WAS YOUR
EXPERIENCE LIKE?
>> I WOULD SAY THAT MY BIGGEST
EXPERIENCE WAS HOW IT HELPED ME
TO GET OFF TOBACCO.
>> Reporter: REALLY?
BRIAN RUSH IS AN INTERNATIONALLY
RECOGNISED SCIENTIST IN TORONTO,
SPECIALIZING IN ADDICTION AND
MENTAL HEALTH.
>> LIKE I SAW MYSELF DEAD, VERY
CLEAR FROM TOBACCO BECAUSE MY
BODY WAS COVERED IN BLACK TAR.
AND I NEVER HAD A CIGARETTE
SINCE.
THAT WAS ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO.
THIS IS A PAINTING FROM A VERY
WELL-KNOWN ARTIST.
>> Reporter: IS THIS A
REFERENCE TO AN AYAHUASCA
EXPERIENCE?
>> YES.
>> Reporter: VISIONS THAT
PEOPLE ARE HAVING?
THESE ARE REPRESENTATIONS OF
THOSE VISIONS?
>> VERY VIVID.
>> Reporter: THE VISIONS ARE
TRIGGERED BY
THE D.M.T. AND OTHER NATURALLY
OCCURRING CHEMICALS IN THE MIX
STIMULATE NEUROTRANSMITTERS IN
THE BRAIN, AND THEY AFFECT
EVERYTHING FROM MOOD TO ANXIETY
LEVELS AND SELF-AWARENESS.
RUSH SAYS THAT NEW RESEARCH HAS
JUST BEEN PUBLISHED ABOUT THE
POTENTIAL OF AYAHUASCA TO HELP
WITH DEPRESSION.
>> SO THE BEST KIND OF RESEARCH
IN OUR WORLD OF RESEARCH, THE
DOUBLE BLIND CLINICAL TRIAL, AND
THE PERSON DOESN'T WHAT THEY'RE
GETTING AND THE INVESTIGATOR
DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE
GETTING AND IT'S A RANDOMIZED
CONTROL TRIAL.
AND THE FIRST ONE WAS PUBLISHED
ON AYAHUASCA AND SHOWED BENEFITS
FOR DEPRESSION.
THE WORLD OF RESEARCH TOOK
NOTICE.
THIS IS HARD TO ARGUE AGAINST.
(*)
>> Reporter: AND THAT COULD BE
WHY AYAHUASCA'S POPULARITY IS
SOARING.
RUSH ESTIMATES THAT THOUSANDS OF
CANADIANS MAY HAVE TRIED IT,
SOME SEEING IT AS A NATURAL
ALTERNATIVE TO PRESCRIPTION
DRUGS OR THERAPY.
PEOPLE LIKE THIS.
>> MYA!
I WAS REALLY, REALLY SKEPTICAL
AND CYNICAL ABOUT IT.
>> Reporter: HE'S AN I.T. GUY
IN TORONTO.
AYAHUASCA WAS NOT ON HIS RADAR
BUT THE SKEPTIC WAS STRUGGLING
WITH A SECRET.
>> SINCE 13 OR 14, I HAD THIS
CRIPPLING DEPRESSION.
I WAS GOOD AT HIDING IT AND I
STARTED WORKING WITH A
PSYCHOLOGIST AND ANTIDEPRESSANTS
AND IT WAS NUMBING THINGS.
>> Reporter: YURI WANTED OFF
HIS MEDS AND THAT LED HIM TO AN
AYAHUASCA RETREAT IN PERU.
HE REMEMBERS POWERFUL VISIONS OF
HIS SKIN BEING TORN OFF, AND HOW
DISCONNECTED HE WAS.
FOR HIM IT WAS A RE-BIRTH.
>> THIS IS A LITTLE PIECE OF
AYAHUASCA CUT IN HALF.
>> Reporter: YURI IS OFF
ANTIDEPRESSANTS AND HE HAS BEEN
FOR SEVEN YEARS.
HE'S HAPPY NOW BUT GOES BACK TO
THE JUNGLE ANNUALLY TO CONTINUE
WORKING ON HIMSELF.
>> I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT AWAY
THERE'S VERY LITTLE FUN ABOUT
IT.
IT'S THE HARDEST WORK THAT I'VE
DONE IN MY LIFE.
AND EVERY TIME I GO TO A
CEREMONY I DREAD IT IN A WAY AND
IF THERE WAS A WAY NOT TO DO IT
AND STILL HAVE THE SAME RESULTS
I WOULD TOTALLY GO FOR IT.
>> Reporter: YURI NOW WANTS TO
SHARE THE POWER OF THE PLANT.
HE WORKS WITH AN ORGINISATION
THAT TAKES MILITARY VETS WITH
PTSD ON JUNGLE RETREATS.
BUT THE USE OF AYAHUASCA IS NOT
WITHOUT RISKS.
32-YEAR-OLD JENNIFER LOGAN FROM
SASKATCHEWAN DIED IN PERU IN
2015 AFTER A VIOLENT REACTION TO
A TOBACCO PURGE DURING A
CEREMONY.
THERE'S ALSO REAL CONCERNS IN
THE AMAZON AND IN NORTH AMERICA
ABOUT IT SPIKED WITH OTHER
HALLUCINOGENS AND ALSO SEXUAL
ASSAULT AND THEFT WHILE PEOPLE
ARE UNDER THE INFLUENCE.
ARE THERE CONCERNS THAT THESE
CEREMONIES THAT ARE GOING ON IN
NORTH AMERICA MAY ACTUALLY DO
MORE HARM THAN HAVE ANY REAL
BENEFIT TO THEM?
>> I THINK THAT EVEN THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE KIND OF PART OF THE
RESEARCH WORLD AROUND AYAHUASCA
OR PART OF THIS CULTURE
ACKNOWLEDGE SOME OF THE RISKS.
SO IS THERE REALLY SUFFICIENT
SCREENING AROUND THE SAFETY?
AND THEN IS THERE REALLY
SUFFICIENT FOLLOW-UP.
>> Reporter: SO THE LEGAL
RISKS, THE POTENTIAL HEALTH
RISKS, HAVE PUSHED AYAHUASCA
UNDERGROUND IN CITIES ACROSS
NORTH AMERICA.
IS THERE ALWAYS A LINGERING
CONCERN THAT BECAUSE AYAHUASCA
IS ILLEGAL THAT YOU GOT TO KEEP
LOW PROFILE, AND LOW KEY AND BE
CAREFUL ABOUT WHO YOU BRING INTO
YOUR CIRCLE?
>> YES, OF COURSE.
IN TORONTO I KNOW QUITE A FEW
PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRAINED IN THE
AMAZON AND THEN CAME BACK AND I
KNOW QUITE A FEW PRACTITIONERS
WHO HAVE RE-LOCATED TO VANCOUVER
AND LIVE THERE NOW.
BUT, YES, CEREMONIES IN NORTH
AMERICA, PEOPLE WHO ORGANIZE
THEM, THEY HAVE A LOT OF
LOGISTICS TO WORRY ABOUT.
IT'S STILL -- IT'S STILL A
CRIME.
>> Reporter: BUT BACK IN LONG
ISLAND BJORN IS CONVINCED THAT
THE BENEFITS OF AYAHUASCA
OUTWEIGH THE RISKS AND THAT'S
WHY HE'S LET US AND OUR CAMERA
INTO HIS CEREMONY.
WE CONTACTED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN
CANADA TO SEE IF WE COULD COME
AND VIDEOTAPE THE CEREMONIES AND
THEY'RE LIKE NO WAY, BECAUSE
IT'S ILLEGAL WE DON'T WANT THAT
OUT THERE.
BUT YOU'VE ALLOWED US IN.
WHY?
>> I'M NOT SCARED, I'M NOT
SCARED.
I HAVE BEEN TO JAIL AND I'VE
BEEN THERE AND IF THEY WANT TO
COME, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN I HEAR
OR HELP THE PEOPLE -- THAT'S MY
REWARD, BECAUSE IT'S HEALING ME
ALSO.
(*)
THANK YOU.
>> Reporter: I'VE SEEN AN
AYAHUASCA CEREMONY IN THE AMAZON
BEFORE AND THIS IS SOMETHING
ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.-AYAHUASCA CEREMONY IN THE AMAZON
BEFORE AND THIS IS SOMETHING
ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.
FROM THE FIRST NATIONS HEADDRESS
THAT BJORN RECENTLY BOUGHT
ONLINE TO THE SOUND BULLS AND
THE GUARD DOG BARKING IN THE
YARD.
BUT THEN IT HAPPENS.
THE HALLUCINATIONS BEGIN.
THIS WOMAN, KAI, SEEMS TO BE IN
DISTRESS.
BUT BJORN, WHO STUDIED WITH
HEALERS FOR YEARS, GUIDES HER
THROUGH HER UNSETTLING
EXPERIENCE.
I'M WITNESSING FOR MYSELF WHY
PEOPLE TOLD ME THAT AYAHUASCA
CEREMONIES CAN BE DIFFICULT.
DEEPLY PERSONAL, AND SOMETIMES
PAINFUL.
CLEARLY THIS IS NOT FOR
EVERYONE.
CLEARLY THIS IS NOT FOR
EVERYONE.
IN THE END THE CEREMONY LASTED
12 HOURS.
WILL IT CHANGE PEOPLE'S LIVES?
WELL, WE CAN'T ANSWER THAT, NOT
YET, BUT THIS MUCH WE KNOW --
THE NEXT NIGHT ABOUT 40 MORE
PEOPLE SHOWED UP FOR ANOTHER
CEREMONY AT BJORN'S HOUSE AND
SETTLED IN FOR THEIR OWN
AYAHUASCA EXPERIENCE.
>> Andrew: AND WE DO HAVE MUCH
MORE TO COME ON "THE NATIONAL."
UP NEXT, FROM THE FRONTLINES OF
THE SYRIAN WAR TO HOPES OF A NEW
LIFE HERE IN CANADA.
WE ARE THERE AS MEMBERS OF THE
WHITE HELMETS ARRIVE.
THEIR STORIES NEXT.
(*)
>>> FIRST THOUGH, A LOOK AT A
STORY THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE
TOMORROW NIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL."
JUST OVER A WEEK BEFORE THE U.S.
MIDTERM ELECTIONS KEITH BOAG
WILL TAKE AN IN-DEPTH LOOK AT
DONALD TRUMP'S STRATEGY TO GET
OUT THE REPUBLICAN VOTE AND WHY
THE U.S. PRESIDENT ISN'T
FOCUSING ON THE ISSUE THAT YOU
MIGHT THINK WOULD BE A WINNER.
HERE'S A PREVIEW...
>> President Donald Trump:
AND, REMEMBER, IT'S GOING TO BE
AN ELECTION OF THE CARAVAN, YOU
KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
>> Reporter: IN THESE LAST
WEEKS BEFORE THE MIDTERM
ELECTIONS, TRUMP HAS RETURNED TO
THE ISSUES THAT GOT HIM ELECTED
TWO YEARS AGO, ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION
>> President Donald Trump:
REGARDLESS THAT'S OUR ISSUE.
>> Reporter: LAW AND ORDER.
WHILE MANY WOULD ARGUE THAT HE
DESERVES CREDIT FOR AN ECONOMY
THAT'S DOING WELL IT ONLY GETS A
FEW LINES IN HIS SPEECH.
>> President Donald Trump: THE
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE JUST FELL TO
THE LOWEST LEVEL IN OVER 50
YEARS.
[Cheers and Applause]
>> I THINK THAT THERE WAS A
TRANSITION IN THE SUMMER WHEN HE
REALISED THAT THE ECONOMY
WOULD NOT CARRY HIM TO VICTORY
AND HE NEEDED TO CREATE
(*)
>> Andrew: WELCOME BACK.
SOME STORIES THAT WE'LL BE
WATCHING THIS WEEK... THE LAST
GREYHOUND BUSES ARE ROLLING
THROUGH WESTERN CANADA, CITING
LOW RIDERSHIP MOST OF THE
SERVICE IN THE REGION WILL START
-- STOP AS OF MIDNIGHT
WEDNESDAY.
A HODGEPODGE OF OTHER
COMPANIES ARE PICKING UP SOME OF
THE ROUTES.
>>> AND ANOTHER STORY THAT WE'LL
BE WATCHING THIS WEEK...
PROTESTS BREAK OUT AFTER IT'S
ANNOUNCED THAT THE MAN KNOWN AS
"THE TRUMP OF THE TROPICS" HAS
WON BRAZIL'S PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTION.
JAIR BOLSANARO TOOK 55% OF THE
VOTE.
AND RENÉE FILIPPONE IS WATCHING
THIS STORY FOR US.
RENEE, START BY PUTTING THIS IN
CONTEXT FOR US.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
>> Reporter: WELL, BRAZIL HAS
TAKEN A FAR RIGHT TURN TODAY,
BOLSANARO WON BY CAPITALIZING ON
ANGER FOLLOWING YEARS OF
CORRUPTION AND THE FAILING
ECONOMY.
NOW HE SAYS THAT HIS NUMBER ONE
PRIORITY IS TO FIGHT CRIME AND
THAT HE PLANS TO ESSENTIALLY
GIVE POLICE THE AUTHORITY TO
KILL.
NOW THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN HE
SHOCKED PROGRESSIVE BRAZILIANS
WHO ARE
WORRIED THAT HIS ELECTION WILL
ERODE DEMOCRACY.
AND HIS POSITIONS ON A NUMBER OF
ISSUES HAVE RAISED CONCERNS IN
THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY AS
WELL.
BOLSANARO WILL SELL HUNDREDS OF
INDIGENOUS RESERVES.
AND HE SAYS THAT MINORITIES HAVE
TO ADAPT TO THE MAJORITY OR
DISAPPEAR.
HE ALSO SPOKE OUT ABOUT PLANS TO
PULL -- ROLL BACK THE
ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS AND TO
OPEN UP THE AMAZON RAIN
FORETOAST LOGGERS AND FARMERS.
NOW THE CAMPAIGN WAS VERY
DIVISIVE AND THAT TENSION WAS
FELT BY BRAZILIANS WHO ARE ABLE
TO VOTE IN CANADA.
HERE'S HOW ONE BOLSONARO VOTER
IN TORONTO EXPLAINED IT TO US...
>> SOME OF OUR FRIENDS DON'T
TALK TO US BECAUSE WE VOTE FOR
DEMOCRACY AND THEY VOTE FOR THE
RED PARTY THAT IS IN CONTROL.
SO THEY DON'T WANT TO, LIKE,
EVEN DISCUSS OR EVEN TALK.
THEY SOMETIMES WON'T LOOK AT YOU
BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT
OPINION FROM THEM.
>> Andrew: RENEE, YOU TALK
ABOUT THAT BEING FELT HERE IN
CANADA, THIS COULD RAISE ISSUES
FOR THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT AS
WELL?
>> Reporter: ABSOLUTELY.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE CANADA HAS
BEEN IN FREE TRADE TALKS WITH
THE SOUTH AMERICAN TRADE BLOCK
WHERE BRAZIL IS THE BIGGEST
PLAYER.
NOW IF BOLSANARO FOLLOWS THROUGH
WITH HIS THREATS TO THE
INDIGENOUS RIGHTS AND THE
ENVIRONMENT,
THEN PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN
TRUDEAU WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW
TO RESPOND, WHETHER TO CRITICISE
THIS NEW LEADER WITH A DESIRE TO
STRIKE A TRADE DEAL.
>> Andrew: RENÉE FILIPPONE,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> Reporter: YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> Andrew: WHEN THE BOMBS
RAINED DOWN
IN SYRIA THE WHITE HELMETS MOVE
IN AND THEY'RE A VOLUNTEER
RESCUE WORKERS WHO OPERATE IN
ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACES
IN EARTH, CONSTANTLY SEARCHING
FOR LIFE IN THE RUBBLE.
WELL, LAST SUMMER CANADA
SPEARHEADED AN INTERNATIONAL
OPERATION TO RESCUE SOME OF THE
RESCUERS.
AND NOW CBC NEWS HAS LEARNED 117
SYRIANS, FORMER WHITE HELMETS
AND THEIR FAMILIES, WILL BE
RESETTLED IN THIS COUNTRY.
ONE OF THEM TOLD HER STORY TO
OUR MURRAY BREWSTER.
>> Reporter: FOR TWO WOMEN,
BOTH WHITE HELMETS, THE JOURNEY
BEGAN HERE.
AMID THE RUINS OF DARAA ON
SYRIA'S SOUTHERN FRONTIER.
AND THEN RAN THROUGH ISRAEL...
TO A U.N. REFUGEE CAMP IN
JORDAN, AND FINALLY TO PEARSON
AIRPORT AND THIS SUBDUED
SOLITARY WELCOME.
>> IT'S GIVING THEM A SAFE SPACE
AND WHAT THEY NEED FOR
PROTECTION.
>> Reporter: MUZNA DUREID, A
WHITE HELMET REPRESENTATIVE IN
CANADA, WAS THE ONLY PERSON
WAITING TO GREET THE TWO AND
THEIR FAMILIES.
ONE, A NEW MOTHER, PREGNANT
DURING THE EVACUATION WHO GAVE
BIRTH IN A JORDANIAN REFUGEE
CAMP, WOULD NOT GO ON CAMERA.
AND THE OTHER, MAYSOON
al-MASRI IS A FORMER
JOURNALIST.
HER NEW HOME A RESULT OF A
BITTERSWEET FORCED EXILE.
FROM A LOCATION IN ONTARIO THAT
SHE IS NOT COMFORTABLE TO
DISCLOSE, THERE'S AN INSIDE
ACCOUNT OF THEIR ESCAPE LAST
SUMMER AND IN HOW
SIGNALLING OUT THE WHITE HELMETS
THE SYRIAN GOVERNMENT TURNED
NEIGHBOUR AGAINST NEIGHBOUR.
>> Reporter: THE FATE OF THOSE
ARRESTED IS UNKNOWN.
OTHER WHITE HELMETS WHO HAD
WANTED TO LEAVE REMAIN TRAPPED
IN SYRIA.
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
WHITE HELMETS, THEY'RE THESE
AMAZING AND INCREDIBLY BRAVE
PEOPLE.
>> Reporter: THE LIBERAL
GOVERNMENT SPEARHEADED THE
INTERNATIONAL
RESCUE MISSION BUT IT'S ONLY
ISSUED A STATEMENT ACKNOWLEDGING
THAT WHITE HELMETS WOULD BE
COMING SOON.
MUCH DIFFERENT THAN JUSTIN
TRUDEAU'S PERSONAL GREETING OF
SYRIAN REFUGEES THREE YEARS AGO.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: WELCOME TO CANADA.
>> Reporter: TIMES HAVE
CHANGED AND THE POLITICS ARE
MORE COMPLICATED.
DESPITE THE RESTRAINED
RECEPTION, al-MASRI IS HAPPY
THAT CANADA HAS ACCEPTED HER AND
HAS HOPES FOR A BETTER LIFE.
>> Reporter: MURRAY BREWSTER,
CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.
>> Andrew: MURRAY WILL HAVE
MORE COMPELLING DETAILS ON THEIR
ESCAPE FROM SYRIA TOMORROW ON
"FRONTBURNER," THE NEW DAILY
PODCAST FROM CBC NEWS AND CBC
PODCAST THAT LAUNCHES TOMORROW
MORNING.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TO
TOMORROW TO SUBSCRIBE, HEAD TO
CBC.CA/FRONTBURNER OR LOOK FOR
IT
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>> Andrew: PEOPLE CAME
TOGETHER TONIGHT TO MOURN WITH
THE JEWISH COMMUNITY IN
PITTSBURGH BUT THE SHOOTING AT
THE TREE OF LIFE SYNAGOGUE HAS
HAD AN IMPACT THAT EXTENDS FAR
BEYOND JUST THAT CITY.
ACROSS CANADA CITIES HELD VIGILS
TO SHOW THEIR
SOLIDARITY WITH PITTSBURGH AND
WE SHOWED YOU THOSE MOMENTS
EARLIER IN THE PROGRAMME.
TONIGHT WE WANTED TO CLOSE WITH
THOSE AS WELL.
OUR "MOMENT OF THE DAY."
>> WE COME TOGETHER TONIGHT TO
MOURN.
IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
>> AS SOON AS THE NEWS BROKE OUT
WE GOT MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY
WRITING TO US.
* I PRAY FOR YOU
* YOU PRAY FOR ME
>> AND WE CONTINUE WHEN WE LEAVE
HERE TODAY TO HONOUR THOSE THAT
WE LOST THROUGH ADVOCATING FOR
ALL THOSE AT THE MARGINS.
>> MAY THEY NOT BE FORGOTTEN.
AMEN.
>> YOU CAN ONLY HEAL THIS WORLD
IF WE ACTUALLY WORK TO HEAL THIS
WORLD AND REACH OUT BEYOND
OURSELVES.
AND IT'S AMAZING SEEING
EVERYBODY HERE COMING TOGETHER
IN SOLIDARITY TO DO THAT.
>> Andrew: AND THAT IS WHERE
WE'LL LEAVE YOU TONIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.
THAT'S "THE NATIONAL" FOR
OCTOBER 28th.
GOODNIGHT.
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