- Alright, hey everybody, Trina here, thanks for joining me
on the Healthy Me today, I'm really excited.
Rachael is with me, Rachael Pontillo,
and we are gonna be talking like this is gonna be
so cool because we're talking about one of
my favorite topics today and I'm not even gonna
tell you what that is right now, I'm gonna wait,
make you sit on it for a second, but the topic itself
is is the most popular skincare ingredient
also the most dangerous, and if you've ever heard me talk,
you know exactly what I'm talking about
when I say the most dangerous
and the most popular ingredient.
So let me tell you really quickly about Rachael, though.
Rachael is a holistic skincare innovator,
author, and educator.
She is the best-selling author of the book Love Your Skin,
Love Yourself, and co-author of the Sauce Code.
She's an AADP and IAHC board-certified
international health coach, licensed esthetician,
and natural skincare formulator and educator.
She's the president and co-founder
of the Nutritional Esthetics Alliance,
am I saying that right, Rachael?
- You are.
- Okay, the creator of the popular skincare
and healthy lifestyle blog Holistically Haute,
as well as the much loved online course
Create Your Skincare.
She's an avid herbalist, self-professed
skincare ingredient junky and lifelong learner.
I pretty much could've read, like that's almost,
you sound like me.
- I know, I know, we are so similar.
- She's like my twin over here.
Well welcome, welcome, I'm so glad to have you.
- Thank you, I'm excited to be here!
- Alright, so lemme jump into this,
because everybody's sitting on the edge of their seats.
- They're like what are we gonna talk about?
- What are we gonna talk about,
and if they know me, they're like I know, I know.
So you tell me, what is, in your opinion,
in your professional opinion,
what is the most popular skincare ingredient
and why is it so popular?
- So, drum roll
(Trina trills)
it is water!
(laughs)
- Water, that's what I say - Water!
- Alright, why, why is it so popular?
- Why, exactly, so obviously it makes sense.
I mean you wash your face with water,
you take a shower or bath in water,
so clearly it would make sense to use water
in a skincare product line
that's intended to cleanse the skin.
And from a formulation and manufacturing perspective,
water is pretty darn cheap compared to some of
the other ingredients that we would use in skincare
such as oils and extracts and some of
the other things that we're gonna talk about
in a little while.
So it makes sense from a theoretic perspective
but also from a financial perspective,
if you're manufacturing and selling
a mass-produced skincare line, that you would want to
kind of water down your formulations to keep
your costs down and to be able to offer
bigger quantities to your customers.
And it's also a way where a customer might think
they're getting a big amount of product
but it's actually not going to be.
- So lemme ask you real quick.
- Very strong, yes?
- For the most part, on average,
when water's listed and it's usually listed
as the first ingredient, - Number one, yeah
- Number one, what typically is the concentration
or percentage of water that you've found?
- So typically in a formulation,
the first five ingredients are going to make up
80 to 85% of the entire product,
so if water is your number one ingredient,
that could be up to 80% of that product.
- Yeah, that's what I usually say.
It's somewhere between 75 and 90, 'cause some formulations
are even higher, they're like 90%.
- It's true, especially if it's something
like a cleanser or you know people see the word serum
and they're like ooh, it's fancy,
that must mean it's better, not necessarily.
That nice, light consistency that people love
means there's a lot of water in it.
I was just, not gonna name names
but I was watching TV and a very popular
anti-aging skincare product line now has
a product out there that they're like oh my god,
it's so light, it absorbs so quickly.
- It's not absorbing, it's evaporating!
- It's evaporating, it's not absorbing.
I looked up the ingredients, I'm like yup, water, water,
chemicals, it's just, it's not that nice,
light consistency that people like so much
does not always mean that your skin's actually getting
any lasting benefit or that the ingredients
are even able to absorb.
- Well and on top of that, not even benefiting you
but actually harming you.
Not just your skin but harming you internally
and I'm sure we're gonna talk about that too.
But why would water be considered a dangerous ingredient?
- There's a couple of reasons why.
So first and foremost, water is like a cesspool,
like a smorgasbord for microbes.
So bacteria, mold, and yeast propagate freely
whenever water is present in a skincare formulation,
and that can just be water itself
even if it's water and then a whole bunch of chemicals,
but it can also be any ingredient that is water
containing in any way.
So even your herbal products that are made
with different infusions and hydrosols and extracts,
if any of them contain any water whatsoever
which many of them do, that is going to propagate
that microbial growth.
So that is where water itself really can be
the most dangerous because if you're using a product
that is contaminated with some sort of a pathogen,
you can cause some serious damage,
not only to your skin, but also to your internal health
because if the skin itself is broken
and unfortunately, a lot of people do have
compromised barrier functions in their skin
where there are microscopic fissures
or otherwise compromised areas of the skin
where certain things that are not normally,
would not normally come in because the microbiome
can handle them, but they do.
So if a pathogen enters the body through the skin
which can happen if the skin is, has dry cracks on it
anywhere, if you have some sort of scaly rash,
if you have an acne breakout, all of that
is broken skin.
Even if you have a little scratch on your hand
and the lotion that you're using comes into contact
with that scratch, that pathogen can enter the body.
And we're not talking just about cute little buggies here,
we're talking like some serious bugs.
We are talking potentially drug-resistant strains
of bacteria and molds and yeasts that can then
really propagate in the body.
- Right, and what I wanted to add is that
you might not, that's not something you might see
on your skin, it's gonna be an internal thing
that you end up with flu-like symptoms
and you never associate that with what did I just use
yesterday on my skin?
- Exactly, you would associate that more with
food that you're eating, air that you're breathing
or that you're coming into contact with something
like poison ivy or something like, I mean contact dermatitis
but yeah, using a regular cream and lotion
that seems very harmless, when you're using that product,
there may be no visible signs that it's contaminated.
There's this misconception that you'll know
if a product goes bad because it'll separate
or it'll smell funny - Or it'll be green
- Yeah, or you'll see black specks
or fuzz, that's not always the case at all.
There are many times when a product becomes contaminated
or a preservation system fails because of the high water
activity within that product.
- And let's not forget too because I'm guilty of this
and most women probably are, you open a bottle
or a container and technically as soon as it's opened
it's supposed to be used within
- It's exposed
- Yes and it's supposed to be used within six months
is like a guideline that everyone should follow
for everything.
- For every product - Yeah
- Even ones that are preserved with chemical
preservatives that I never recommend
and I know you don't either.
- It's because as soon, they're meant to be preserved
closed in a closed system and to keep them
a longer shelf life and as soon as you open it,
you're exposing it to the air six months, ladies
and gentlemen, six months, otherwise,
even those things that have those heavy doses
of preservatives can grow bacteria and harmful things.
I also wanna mention too 'cause I know
when I talk about my products and Primal Life Organics,
I talk about and I don't know if you mention this too
but the other things that are found in water
because what I like to tell people is for most
skincare companies, they're not
really purifying their water,
they're using tap water and these are the things
that have been found in tap water.
Heavy metals, we talked about the disease-causing bacteria
so disease-causing bacteria, heavy metals,
gasoline solvents, synthetic chemicals like benzine,
industrial waste products, disinfectant byproducts
and radioactive substances such as uranium,
radium and radon.
- Isn't that fun?
- And what's great is water evaporates
and leaves these things sitting on your skin.
- Or absorbing into the skin.
- Right, and especially they can cross through
but when you talked about the little fissures
or little cuts or if you just exfoliated,
there's breakdown that you don't see
or feel in your skin.
- It's true, and then one other thing
that I wanted to mention that not everybody knows about
is that water for the skin is actually alkaline.
And we've been told a lot nutritionally
that it's good to have an alkaline environment
inside of the body.
I mean I'm sure you guys have heard about drinking
alkaline water and the benefits of that
are for another conversation but topically
the skin itself actually is on the acidic side
and it has to be, that's how it supports
its microbiome.
Typically between a pH of four and five and a half,
and water, distilled water is about a seven
which is neutral.
So that means that it's not, even neutral
is alkaline which can be extremely irritant to the skin
with repeated use.
This is why so many people when they take a lot
of long showers or soak in a bath, their skin
actually feels really dry and irritated.
- Right, and it's like when you talk about
the microbiome, what cracks me up is just recently
I saw an email from a popular blog,
healthy blog person, I don't wanna name them,
who is supporting a company out there
that considers their stuff safer
and mentioning how this company is the first company
to be preserving your natural biome
on your skin and I laughed because I'm like,
I've been doing that for 10 years.
This has been coming out of my mouth about your
natural biome being supported, water kills it.
The pH when you're talking about it,
having the alkaline pH from water is killing
your natural biome by using ingredients like the oils,
you're supporting your natural biome which is supporting
the growth of the bacteria that needs to protect you.
So it just cracks me up that out there
people are thinking that they're propagating
some new, something new.
It's like come on!
- I know, it, yeah, again, don't even
get me started on that kinda stuff
because it drives me crazy because they act like
it's brand-new information that they just discovered
and the only line to ever do this.
No, actually.
- And really when you're destroying your natural biome,
you're leaving yourself, people that suffer from acne
and rosacea and skin conditions,
you are actually, can cause more harm
and it can actually cause irritations
or worsen your acne.
- Yeah, you're leaving your entire body
susceptible and open to, I don't wanna say attack
but essentially it is, because even if
they're microbes that you come into contact with
that might not normally be a problem,
if you don't have a rich and diverse microbiome
in your body and on the surface of your skin,
then those tend to become opportunistic
and throw things off balance and could really
cause a problem.
- Yeah, because even a small amount if you
have a weakened immune system, a small amount
can cause more problems.
So tell me, please enlighten us,
are there any benefits for using water
in skincare?
- Yeah.
So here's the thing, from a functional perspective,
when we're talking about the function of the product itself,
it makes the product feel nice on the skin.
Not everybody likes the feel of oil-based products
because look, the Industrial Revolution
brought us a whole slew of water-based products,
we got used to it, we got comfortable with creams
and lotions and gels and stuff like that
and it can be sometimes difficult to switch
somewhat over to an oil-based regimen
when they're used to that light feeling,
that lightly hydrated feeling.
- Yeah (laughs)
- That stripped, the squeaky clean.
- Like the prune versus the plum,
like if you wanna look like a prune
put water on your skin, that's what I like to say.
- Right, but here's the thing, it is really important
to hydrate the skin and it would be lovely
if we could do that from the inside out
by drinking water, and having hydrating foods
in our diet, but unfortunately it doesn't actually
work that way because all of that hydration first
goes to nourish and hydrate the internal organs
and by the time the skin gets it,
there's like 10% scraps left.
It's like the leftovers that nobody wants to eat.
It's just not enough.
It definitely can help, there's always
a visible difference of someone who drinks a lot of water
versus who does not, but for proper hydration
on the surface, it's really important to hydrate
with some sort of water-containing ingredient.
But the other thing that's important about that
is that even though water-soluble ingredients
don't necessarily penetrate all the time
because the skin's barrier is lipids, is oils,
it recognizes oils and and oil-soluble nutrients.
However, we do have studies that show us
the importance of hydrated skin
to allow for that absorption to happen.
So if the skin is dehydrated,
it's like pouring oil on top of like the desert,
hard desert sand, nothing's getting in there.
It has to first be kind of opened up and softened up
and watered like a sponge where it can open up further
to take in those nutrients, but if there's too much,
then you have just a soggy sponge where things
are just falling out and nothing's going in.
- And that's what I like to, it's not,
in my opinion and I don't use water in my formulations,
but in my opinion, it's not the fact that there's water
in skincare products, it's that there's water
in every skincare product.
So it's the overuse.
Like it's an absolute overuse.
So if you're using one product that has water in it,
please make sure it's purified,
so that will tell you that that's a better quality of water.
But that's not gonna be harm to your body
like using 10 products every day that have water.
That's really gonna be where you're gonna run
into the area where you're not gonna be supporting
your natural biome, it's gonna dehydrate you more
than it's gonna hydrate 'cause the water's
actually gonna pull the moisture.
- And the nutrition. - And, yeah.
- You know, with that evaporation
and that's important, so it's nice
if you are using products that contain water,
there are better choices than just water,
than distilled water, so I mentioned
some of the herbal preparations that you can make.
A lot of my colleagues and my students
use herbal infusions which actually does lower
the pH of the water.
Yes, you still have to deal with the microbe issue.
That's a fact, and natural preservation
has come a long way since even just a few years ago
when I first started teaching about it,
it's every six months there's a new natural preservation
system, many of which are more supportive
to the microbiome than some of the more traditional
preservatives, a lot of the natural antimicrobials
out there are, they bring benefits to the skin
and have nourishing properties in addition
to the antimicrobial properties,
which kinda sounds like an oxymoron
like antimicrobial supporting microbiome,
but the fact is is that if you are gonna formulate
with water at all or buy a product that contains water,
it's gotta have a preservative, otherwise it's just
gonna be dangerous and that's just a fact.
But using herbal infusions or hydrosols
that is a way to at least deal with the issue
of pH being too high, because those are more acidic
and they're also going to help bring in some of
the therapeutic properties of the plants
in conjunction with the other ingredients
in the product.
So that's a way that it can be beneficial,
but I don't really recommend even to my students
to use straight water in their products at all,
and I recommend that showers be kept to a minimum.
- They have the shower heads that you can get
- [Rachael] Yep
- Get the, 'cause I had the filter, yeah,
that you can just attach right to your shower head
so that your showers are filtering out
the heavy metals and the waste products
and all of that.
- Chlorine.
- And the chlorine, and you can get whole house systems.
We have a whole house system now
but we did use the shower before we moved
into this house, I had a shower head.
It's really important, we don't realize how much
- Really important
- How much our skin actually just absorbs this stuff.
- It does.
- And it affects, you think about the brain fog
and the fatigue and chronic fatigue that people
are suffering - The hormones
- Hormone disruption, you know.
How many women are having difficulties getting pregnant,
how many people are having problems losing weight,
your thyroid gland is responsible for your metabolism
and that's affected by stuff.
So all of this stuff comes into play,
and what's really fun is Rachael and I have never,
we've met a couple times, we've met at a couple places
and we've never actually had this conversation
so it's really kind of a fun topic for us
to talk about.
- It is, we're geeking out over water.
I love it.
- I know, yeah.
So alright, so what are natural alternatives to water,
either as a skincare ingredient or in your daily
skincare regimen?
- Yeah.
So as I mentioned, herbal infusions, so that's basically
an herbal tea or you can make green tea,
green tea actually has a ton of topical skin benefits,
really wonderful ingredient that you have to use water
to make the tea, you have to use water
to extract the benefit of the plant, typically hot water.
And then there are some herbal preparations you can use
called glycerins where you're using glycerin
to actually extract some of the preparation
or some of the therapeutic benefits
from the plants and that's a lot less irritant
than using something like an alcohol extract
or an herbal vinegar.
Herbal vinegars are great for salad,
but not so much on the face, it's too acidic.
And therefore too irritant.
Of course we gotta talk about oils,
we love oils, oils don't hydrate the skin per se
because they're not bringing any water into the skin
but they absolutely are essential for helping
to maintain skin hydration because they are helping
to kind of seal off the evaporation pathways
from the water that's already in the surface
of the skin.
They're helping to keep that moisture in
and they're also delivering just pure plant nutrition
into the skin, it's just wonderful
and I really think there's an oil for everyone.
If you put an oil on your skin and it feels
too greasy or it's not absorbing or it's too thick,
try another oil.
There's so many of them out there now
and they all have different properties,
they're all made of different essential fatty acid chains
that will determine how it absorbs and depending on
what your skin's needs are, you will find the right one,
you just have to kind of experiment.
- And sometimes what I find with people too
is that you're so used to putting on that watered-down
product that you need more of
that you're using, it's a simple math product.
You're actually, you're just using too much oil.
So if you simply cut the oil down into half
or even a third, then what I tell my clients
is you know what, if you put this serum on
like my CX serum, vitamin C serum,
if you put that on and 10 minutes later
you feel it on your skin, you've put too much on.
- You've put too much.
- So get, within 10 minutes you should have
soft feeling skin, not dry, not oily,
it should be just like to the touch you just feel soft.
So keep cutting back until you get to the point
where you know I need three drops, I need two drops,
I'm two and a half because most of the time
we're just so used to using such high volumes
because that's what those big bottles
come in big bottles so they look nice and big
and you think oh, but you're using three times as much
as you would if you just used an oil.
- Exactly, it's so true.
And another thing that I want everybody to have,
there's two things that I want everybody to have
in their regimen and that's first is rosewater,
that's something that can be used just as a spritz
before you apply your oils or you can use it
as a compress before you apply your oils,
that will bring hydration as well as gentle tightening
and really just beautiful properties
into the skin and then you put your oil on top
so that it keeps that moisture in there but you haven't,
you haven't dehydrated your skin.
The pH is still lower so you're not irritating
your skin in terms of acidity or alkalinity
and you also get the natural aromatherapy from it
which is shown to improve the mood and there are
a lot of skin and health benefits associated
with rosewater, so that's one.
And then aloe vera, an aloe vera plant.
Everybody should have an aloe vera plant in their homes
and it's just really simple to get the gel out.
You just take a vegetable peeler,
peel the leaf off, it exposes the gel inside,
scoop it out, stick it in like a little Nutribullet,
that makes a nice consistency,
and you can apply just a layer of that
as kind of a serum,
and then your oils on top or you can even mix it
with your oils and apply that as your own emulsion
that doesn't contain an emulsifier.
Just for like a quick and easy DIY.
And then honey, raw honey is a beautiful thing
to wash your face with and also to use
as a mask or as a spot treatment.
It is very high in water activity,
it's a humectant, it attracts moisture
into the skin, but it itself does not contain
a lot of water, it has a naturally lower pH
but you're also getting a lot of natural
skin-nourishing microbiome,
- I was gonna say it's loaded with microbiomes.
- It's so good
- Like listen to us we're like ugh,
feed my skin.
- Yeah, so I don't want you to actually look for that
in a skincare product because honey in a skincare product
can actually cause more microbes because it feeds them
but as a standalone DIY skincare regimen step,
either as a cleanser or as a spot treatment
or a mask, it's really beautiful
and it's very hydrating to the skin.
So if you wash your face with honey,
- And then you can always just like lick it off.
(laughs)
- And also, honey's really sticky but it's very easy
to remove with just a gentle warm washcloth
so just apply it to the skin, kinda tap it around a bit,
get things moving, rinse it off with a warm washcloth,
spritz your face with some rosewater
then put on your really nourishing oil serums.
You are good to go.
- So what are the main things you need to know
if you choose to use skincare products
that contain water or water-containing ingredients.
So what's the most important thing to look for?
- If you see a product that contains some sort
of an herbal extract or something with water
or a hydrosol and it says preservative-free, run,
put the product down and step away from it.
There's no such thing as a preservative-free product
that contains water that is safe.
- 'Cause water like we talked about just grows bacteria.
- So either the product is formulated unsafely
or they're lying and they have not listed out
the preservatives and that happens a lot.
We often see products that if, I know where to look
for the sources of the ingredients 'cause that's what I do
but a consumer is not gonna know oh, well where
did they get that ingredient, and then if you go
look at that ingredient, the ingredient itself
might have methylparaben in it but because it's below
a certain percentage of concentration you would never need,
you would never know that as a consumer
because the individual constituents
of raw materials are not necessary to be listed
on labels.
So always be wary of those free-from claims,
it's typically, you know, too good to be true.
- Yeah.
So I love this conversation,
because I love the fact that we're on the same page.
- Yeah.
- With it, and I always think that two voices
are always stronger than one.
- Absolutely.
- Four voices are stronger than two.
I know a lot of people get worried about competition
and things like that, but I applaud people
that can band together and love each other
and spread the word, because my biggest thing
is I really want people to understand
the safer ideas of skincare, and it doesn't
have to be, just because something looks pretty
and is marketed, I don't wanna say correctly,
but marketed, - Marketed well,
- Yeah - Marketed a certain way
- Yeah, marketed well.
Like I always talk about like mineral makeup
is not really safe, it was a marketing ploy
because it sounds safe, and it exploded.
So it's this same idea with marketing.
Marketing just because something looks good
doesn't mean it's good, and I want everyone
to go home, this is your homework,
you have to go home, look at the products
that you're using, especially like the stuff you use
every day and look at the ingredient and see
if the first ingredient is water, that's it.
That's all you gotta do.
That in itself is gonna be an eye-opener
when you look at 10 products and you see
that 10 products out of 10 products have water
listed as the first ingredient.
So really just open your eyes and then you can start
to delve into it and figure out like what do I need
to do to make the change, what do I look for,
obviously you know, you have a course
that I know that you wanna offer everyone.
My products of course Primal Life Organics
are all very, it's an oil-based skincare program
that I developed.
- And it's a beautiful line, I've sampled
your products before, you do a great job.
- Thank you.
And I take that very, from an expert to an expert
so that means a lot to me.
But tell them about your course because they really
want people to really, if you're interested,
if you geek out about this stuff like we do,
Rachael has a great course that you can go through.
So tell them about your course.
- Absolutely, it's called Must-Have Secrets
for Gorgeous Skin, and it is a 10-lesson video course
where you sign up for the course,
you get an email every day with a lesson in it
and it basically takes you through the entire process
that took me years to figure out
and you're gonna get all that information
in these 10 videos, and I talk about what you need
internally to build healthy, beautiful cells
from the inside out with what foods you should
be looking for, also what substances and foods
you should be avoiding.
We talk about lifestyle upgrades that you can make
to support healthy skin, what are things in your house,
in your daily lifestyle, at your workplace
that you should be taking a look at
to kinda run through this checklist like oh,
do I have this, this, this or this?
Okay, well let's fix this and they're all things
that are within your control that if you make
these small changes, they can really make
a big impact overall on your skin.
And then I talk about topical in two ways.
We talk about more ingredients like this,
we talk about ingredients that you should avoid,
ingredients that you should look for,
but as we mentioned in the beginning
of this session today, I'm also an esthetician
so I'm giving you the skinny on what spa treatments
are actually beneficial and which ones really are not.
- Ooh!
- Yeah, there's a lot of - Now it gets dicey
- It does get dicey and unfortunately
there are a lot of treatments that are being done
in spas on a regular, on a very regular basis.
- And they're expensive.
- They are expensive but they're also doing
your skin more harm than good and they're actually
slowing down your skin's healing process
and speeding up your skin's aging process.
And I don't think we want either of those things.
- No, and I talk a little bit about that
every once in awhile too when I talk about
some of the ingredients, like what kills me
is when the vitamin C formulations, vitamin C itself
starts to oxidize, looking at your laughing,
starts to oxidize as soon as it's exposed to air.
It's not oil-soluble so in order to put it in oil,
they have to attach it to something.
- They have to do a lot to it.
- So by the time you, and what they attach it to,
one of the side effects causes cell death.
- Yeah.
- So the whole idea behind buying something
that has vitamin C is that you're going to be
improving your skin, when in reality
they've attached it to something that's going
to cause cell death.
- Pretty ironic. - Isn't that crazy?
- And it happens all the time.
- And we buy into it, we buy into it
and we wonder why we buy this bottle this big
for $200 and we don't look any different, right?
- It's true.
Yeah, and then you know in addition to that,
I talk a lot about mindset in this course
because I'm sure you've seen this with your clients
and your audience as well.
We know a lot of what we're supposed to be doing
to get the results we want but sometimes
we still don't do them, because we're stuck
or because we feel like we don't deserve it
or we feel like it's not for us,
it's for that person.
So I talk about the importance of mindset
and what shifts you really do need to adopt
if you really want to get the results that you say
you want, and make them for you for life.
- Awesome, you area amazing, Rachael.
- And thank you, so are you.
- Thank you.
We're two girls that just love each other.
- We are, yeah.
You should see us on the dance floor.
- Oh my god, oh, let's not go there.
Oh my gosh, that was so funny.
Yeah, we were just at an event recently
thanks to JJ Virgin.
- We wore costumes.
- Yeah, and it was a lot of fun and we had so much fun,
we were dancing maniacs.
So anyway, I totally appreciate you coming on.
And so we'll have in the notes, the show notes
all the information if anybody wants to go
to the course, check it out, and Rachael,
I totally, totally thank you for being who you are,
bringing safe skincare, the knowledge out there,
because so many estheticians, they don't get
into the natural and they get stuck in the artificial
is what I like to call it so I appreciate
when the natural can come out.
So thank you so much for joining us today.
And everybody can check you out,
you have a website as well?
- Yes, so I have RachaelPontillo.com
and it's R-A-C-H-A-E-L-P-O-N-T-I-L-L-O,
- And that'll be in the notes as well, yeah.
- Yep, perfect, and then if you are interested
in actually learning to make your own skincare products
that are safe, like a lot of what we talked about today,
I also have createyourskincare.com.
- Yeah, that's awesome, and you know,
being the creator myself of a company
that creates skincare, I always encourage people
to make their own skincare and even if it's simple,
like leave the really intricate stuff to me.
Like my super berry elixir has a ton of really
good ingredients, so leave that to me,
and that can be your night treatment,
but I always encourage people to just dabble
with making your own.
It's of course gonna be more cost-effective
for you, and it's fun, especially if you have a daughter,
or a son, like get them mixing
- Put them to work
- Yes, and if you're using oils and food-based,
it's kind of fun to do it.
Make yourself a sugar scrub for your face,
make yourself that honey, get raw ingredients
and make them.
So I always, even as the creator of a company
that creates skincare, always encourage people to go out
and make your own, whatever you can, always make your own
when you can, and leave the nitty gritty
and the really delicate stuff to other people
that really love to geek out on that.
Thanks, Rachael, I appreciate it.
- Thank you so much.
- And until the next time we run into each other
on the dance floor - Absolutely
- Sending love to you.
- And you as well, thank you.
- Alright, thanks guys for joining us
and we will catch you next time on The Healthy Me.
Thanks for watching, make sure you subscribe
to keep learning how to create your healthy self.
See you next time!
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