our first guest tonight joining us to discuss the systemic corruption within
the Justice Department and the FBI and the boiling political cauldron at the
epicenter of the DC swamp Congressman Matt Gaetz
he serves on a number of key committees including judiciary budget and armed
services great to have you with us good to be here your thoughts on what is
happening right now it all seems to be moving to if you will forgive the
metaphor a boil right now in Washington whether it is in the house whether it's
in the White House I never would have believed we would be getting reports
about potential human intelligence being collected on a rival presidential
campaign I never would have thought we would have had Justice Department
officials attacking a staff member who has worked so hard with our office and
many other offices to expose the corruption and the crimes of the deep
state but Lou I would have never thought that cash at the Democratic National
Committee would ultimately be converted into a warrant to spy on American
citizens and so we live in these very rare and unusual times where the
bureaucrats at the FBI and Department of Justice believed that the Congress the
elected representatives of the people answer to them rather than the other way
around and and answer they will one way or the
other come this fall but interestingly Paul Ryan doesn't seem to be concerned
in their conference has allowed Paul Ryan to resign the speakership but
retain leadership of the conference and a whole great sway over the likely
outcome for each member who's running for election this year well I think that
we've got to be a lot stronger in making demands because if we don't and we lose
the house because we've not demonstrated sufficient vigor and our oversight
responsibilities the Democrats will I mean Lou we know how the Democrats play
this game what they'll do is they'll start demanding documents and if those
documents don't show up they'll start the impeachment proceedings whereas
we've engaged in this protracted negotiation over what we have a
constitutional obligation to do and that's demand answers from the executive
branch sohe why is the conference staying with
a weak-kneed obviously unimaginative and ineffective speaker who cannot drive an
agenda or prepare the conference for those midterm elections well I think
that we've got a number of members who are very concerned over the increased
Democrat intensity that we've seen I do have to note though Lou we've been
successful in making some of our key arguments to the public six months ago
only 44% of Americans believed that the Muller probe was politically motivated
today that number is over half to 53% of Americans according to CBS that believe
that Muller's probe is politically motivated so as much as I'd love to give
you credit for that it is President Trump who day in and day out is
attacking fake news attacking the Muller witch-hunt
I don't here Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell saying a single dog we always
are encouraging them to be more supportive of our efforts but look
members of Congress have been conducting a lot of these investigations and
uncovering a lot of these truths and look at the consequence Jim Comey fired
deputy director of the FBI Andrew McCabe fired and referred for
criminal prosecution counterintelligence chief Peter struck demoted and
reassigned his girlfriend Lisa Paige gone leaker James Baker the counsel for
the FBI gone so time and again were taking bites
out of the deep state but I think you're right
institutionally the Congress has got to be stronger now otherwise Nancy Pelosi
will get the speaker gavel let me be clear we give on this broadcast evident
as the chair of the House Intelligence Committee the the heroes positioned
within the pantheon it's a small Pantheon in Washington DC right now but
there are so many congressmen with guts like you in principle who are doing a
lot but Nunez has been outstanding but Paul Ryan has not stood tall he has not
stood loudly in support of this president or against the Department of
Justice and the FBI he is weak-kneed he is a trembling
figure and the in the twilight of his tenure as Speaker how much can the
Republican Party stand from this man and we hear there's a discharge petition on
its way in which he is basically trying to pretend make it look as though he's
been carried across the finish line to amnesty which
has been his goal for years and years and years without a quid pro quo well
I'll take some exceptions in the notion look a discharge petition would
absolutely lead to amnesty the discharge petition says we're gonna take a vote on
everybody's immigration bill the Conservatives have the Goodlatte
immigration bill that ends chain migration that instills e-verify into
our system that builds the wall all the things that we care about and takes care
of daca but does it in a conservative way the Democrats can have their
proposals the liberal Republicans can have their proposals but you know what
I'm sick of I'm sick of not taking votes I'm sick of debating immigration and
talking about it but not doing anything about it this president ran on an
immigration agenda and it's time that we deliver for him as a Congress I I think
it's wonderful that you would deliver for but I'm right now more concerned
about delivering for the American people because right now daca is amnesty and
daca amnesty without quid pro quo without any condition the good lock bill
good lot hasn't been he's been absent in abstention for out his throughout his
tenure as chairman of judiciary I know you can't remark on that but I can't the
reality is that we have a president who is right at the threshold of securing
every major policy victory and it looks as though the globalist forces are
circling and are moving in to suppress what should be a moment of exhilarating
victory for this president and for the nation it should be and frankly if we
were 10 percent as effective as the Congress as this president was we would
have done so much more to advance his agenda alone the president has reduced
illegal border crossings by about 40 percent so if we would do the things
he's called for ending chain migration doing Iver off' I making sure that
people are working in this country legally but I really think this is a
solvable problem the Democrats want you to believe or he
really can't solve it but we can now I agree with you 100% and this president
has demonstrated that you can solve much of it again the threat against America
first his his policies his doctrine is all too real tonight and we appreciate
you being here thank you as always thank you very much
President Trump last night touting the successful return of three Americans
held captive in North Korea but those hostages came out with respect we didn't
pay for them they came out for nothing and the others came out for 1.8 billion
in cash can you believe what it is a stark contrasts mind you from the Obama
administration's policy of paying for the return of US citizens in 2011
President Obama paid 1.5 million for three American hikers held in Iran 2014
he swapped five Taliban terrorists for private Bowe Bergdahl and in 2016 he
spent nearly 1.8 billion in cash as the president mentioned for Iran to Iran for
five Americans in advance of the disastrous Iran deal joining me now to
talk about at Gordon Chang Daily Beast's contributor author of nuclear showdown
North Korea takes on the world Gordon great to see you it could have sworn it
was a long-standing stating stated policy of the American government not to
pay ransom to terrorists or terrorist nations but Obama did it anyway well
sure and clearly the point here is that we're just giving incentives to the
Iranians North Koreans and others to just grab more Americans you know this
policy has been violated so many times in the past we really need to stop it
and it is progress that we did get the three Kim's out of North Korea and we
didn't pay a cent to Kim jong-un that's real progress yet Chuck I'd walk him out
for a camera Schumer was on the Senate floor condemning the president for
saying a simple thanks to Kim jong-un for releasing them is that just
incredibly naive if not dumb I mean what did he expect the President to do insult
Kim jong-un and threaten a historic summit to denuclearize the Korean
Peninsula yeah the important point here as you suggest is that you don't want to
insult Kim jong-un on the eve of the meeting
in Singapore June 12 you know I might not have said excellent but nonetheless
I think what President Trump is trying to do is to sort of butter up Kim
jong-un sure and if we can get them to disarm to give up their nukes and
ballistic missiles return the Japanese abductees and do a few other things for
a one-word adjective of excellent right well then I'm all for it yeah tell him
tell him he's got a nice-looking suit and a good haircut I mean yeah we'll lie
to him and gee you look thinner these days so let's talk about the upcoming
summit in Singapore why Singapore is that a good idea
yeah Singapore is a very good idea I think there's only one place on earth
that would be better and that would be Mauro Lago I actually liked Mongolia but
the thing about Singapore is important is that it's not going to be in China
because the Chinese want to claw their way back into the denuclearization
process and they've been a malign influence and also it's not in the
Demilitarized Zone and that would be on the doorstep of North Korea as president
Trump's senior advisors have said and it would feed the euphoria continue the
euphoria that South Koreans have over unification on the surface that's not
bad but when you start thinking about what moon jaein the South Korean
president wants to do who's feeding that euphoria it's actually undercutting the
efforts of the international community to disarm Kim so Singapore is a great
place to hold the talks with the North Koreans all right look you are the
expert on North Korea written books about it you've lectured on it we turn
to you whenever the subject comes up so here's the money question how do you
handicap Trump's success at the summit I'm actually quite optimistic I'm gonna
go out on a limb and the reason is that this is not a Kim question this is a
question of whether President Trump will use the elements of American power to
protect US and the international community I actually think he will do it
you know on Tuesday he abrogated the Iran deal he set himself a very high bar
for success in North Korea so you know if he were willing to just sort of
accept any old deal from North Korea which has happened too often in the past
then he would not have gone out of Iran so I think that that's a
sign that President Trump is actually going to hold the North Koreans to those
big promises of giving up their nuclear weapons which Kim made on April 27th to
the South Korean president it seems that what he wants on the table from the
United States is is palatable you know let's have an armistice or a treaty
actually from the old Korean War and just promise you're not going to attack
us that's doable isn't it yeah that is what Kim told moon jae-in
on April 27th during their summit you know if we had gotten to that point
after five years of hard negotiations we would have declared victory you know but
we're getting that before you know shrimp Trump and and Kim meat and that's
an indication no I I think Kim doesn't really want to do that but the point is
Kim is now created and marker president Trump can hold them to that and that
gives us a substantial up in the talks even before they begin so I'm actually
very happy about that and I think that President Trump will use that to make
sure Kim it doesn't doesn't play us all right so assuming for the moment he's
not playing us what changed I mean it was a guy was firing missiles all over
the place developing nuclear weapons and he has some nuclear weapons and and his
belligerence is all of a sudden been replaced by conciliation well a couple
things have changed one of the most US and UN sanctions also you know we got to
remember that Asia Korea watchers and and clearly someone andrei lanka who is
considered to be the leading Korean expert in the world actually said this
is because the North Koreans the Chinese and the South Koreans were afraid of war
in the peninsula and so therefore that you all changed their policies
dramatically towards the end of last year which means that Kim now fails he
needs to come to terms with the United States so you know that's the threats
that's a little rocket man fire and fury all the other comments that I didn't
like then but they seem to have worked and it's not just us it's it's people in
in who don't necessarily like Trump but who
are crediting Trump's policies in this regressive very quickly all of the
critics of President Trump who condemned him for provocative words or or threats
saying you're going to drive us to the precipice of a nuclear exchange with
with North Korea in fact it had the opposite effect
well it certainly did and that is the universal view or almost universal view
among Korea watchers so yeah the president's threats actually worked
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