Please be seated.
Good morning, Your Honor.
Good morning.
This is the case of Leigh v. Leigh.
Thank you, Ron. Good day, everyone.
AUDIENCE: Good day.
JUDGE LAKE: Mr. Leigh, you and your siblings
claim the defendant was not fathered by your dad,
Charles Leigh, Sr., a former professional football player
and two-time Super Bowl champion,
who sadly passed away 10 years ago,
Correct, Your Honor.
is that correct?
JUDGE LAKE: Mr. Patrick Leigh, you are tired
of the plaintiffs denying that you share the same dad,
and today's DNA results will prove your case
that football star, Charles Leigh, Sr.,
was in fact your father, is that correct?
Yes, Your Honor.
What did you know about your mother's relationship
with Charles Leigh, Sr.?
My father used to come by the house all the time.
You've known him all your life?
All my life.
It wasn't revealed
to you at 10 or 12...
No, ma'am.
That this is your father?
No, ma'am.
You've known him since you were born?
Yes, ma'am.
Did you know that
he was a football star Super Bowl champion?
Did you know these things about his life?
PATRICK: In the beginning, I didn't know.
People would come over to me and tell me, you know,
"Your father is..."
CARLA: Excuse me. If you...
"Your father..."
CARLA: Wait a minute.
If he had you all your life,
and you didn't know, and you was hanging out with him?
Oh, my father was the type of person
he's gonna tell you...
PATRICK: As I was saying...
...about the story.
PATRICK: If you're asking me...
He's gonna telling you.
My father...
CHARLES: Everybody know...
Everybody at home, they know my father.
So, if you're he's son, you don't know...
You didn't know at first?
CARLA: You didn't know?
JUDGE LAKE: So, Mr. Charles Leigh, Jr.,
your father died 10 years ago.
Um, why come to court now?
CHARLES: Well, actually, Your Honor... (CLEARS THROAT)
My father died 10 years ago,
but my mom
just passed away nine months ago.
My mom died September the 24th of 2015.
JUDGE LAKE: I'm sorry to hear that.
CHARLES: Yes.
And we were, sort of estranged from Patrick
after my father had died.
And there was never
a blood test done.
JUDGE LAKE: Okay. I wanna hear from Mr. Leigh.
Why is it that you feel like they're questioning this now?
I have no clue.
If you ask me, it may be having to do something
with the will
or just anything going on within our family.
I don't know.
He never really looked like us,
and people even in our own family
would always say to him.
And I felt bad sometime
when they would say to him
"Oh, Tinky ain't your father,"
or "You've got that wrong."
And he ended up coming to live with my mom.
My mother and father when he, I guess,
he's about 11 or 12 years old,
his mom had... He was giving her problems.
She drops him off to my father basically.
My father was renovating the house or something,
he stayed down in that house down there
until my father had the courage to go home
to tell his wife that his outside child
had been dropped to him.
And when my mother found out,
she told him to go get him.
He is a child.
And then my mother allowed him
to go there.
CARLA: And he was bad.
And my mother took him... He called my mother...
PATRICK: Excuse me, Your Honor. That's not true.
...ma and everything.
How did you come to live with them?
I have been having problems with my mom.
CHARLES: Uh-huh.
Okay?
Due to the fact that, you know
I didn't have a male figure around me.
So, I'm arguing, fighting, tearing up.
So my mom's like, "I don't know what I'm gonna do with you."
So she called my father.
My father came to the house.
She said, "Tinky, I'm having problems with him.
"I don't know what I'm gonna do with him."
He said, "Well, I'm gonna take him with me.
"Let me take him and let me see what I can get done."
CARLA: And, Your Honor...
PATRICK: Now, listen...
I can say this, my father would bring home a stray dog
and raise the dog.
JUDGE LAKE: Well this is not a dog.
CHARLES: Yeah.
CARLA: Uh, right. But what I'm saying was...
This was what I'm trying to say to you.
JUDGE LAKE: I get what you're saying.
Your point is it wouldn't surprise you
whether he knew definitively or not
that this was his biological child.
He basically would look at him as a young man in need.
CARLA: That was him.
If it was a question
then, why is my father's name on my birth certificate?
Your father's name is on your birth certificate?
PATRICK: Yes, ma'am.
CHARLES: We're not...
Do you have a copy of that?
PATRICK: Yes, I do.
We're not saying...
JUDGE LAKE: Ron, can you please hand me?
We're not saying
that he... Listen, we're not saying that
because at that time
my father was having an affair with his mother.
And my father did sign the birth certificate
because back then, when he was a baby,
you don't, you don't look like nobody.
It was until he started getting older.
He didn't look like any of us. Then it became a question.
Thank you.
CHARLES: My father didn't deny him
when he was a baby.
So, what are you trying to do? You're not making no sense.
And you're trying to make me look like I'm crazy.
And I don't know what (INDISTINCT)
You had to go to school.
All right. Let's get some control.
Patrick, when you, just a moment ago,
presented your birth certificate with your father's name on it,
you presented your original birth certificate,
and it is signed
and it is your father's name
is listed as "Father."
How are you feeling?
CHARLES: I didn't know,
he felt like that...
CARLA: It's...
JUDGE LAKE: Don't start talking.
PATRICK: I don't feel...
(INDISTINCT) you brought this to me.
I didn't bring... In fact,
I should be standing where you at.
(SCOFFS)
JUDGE LAKE: Patrick, I can see this is hurting you, too.
CARLA: Hmm.
CHARLES: Like I said,
we gonna...
(BEATING GAVEL)
JUDGE LAKE: Sir, you're not gonna outtalk me here today.
CHARLES: I'm sorry, Your Honor.
No, let's get
something straight.
CHARLES: I'm sorry.
You're not gonna run this thing, I do.
CHARLES: Okay.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
Now, in order for me to give you a chance
to respond to his story,
I have to hear it.
Okay.
Mr. Leigh,
was there ever any conversation,
and I need to ask this,
about the fact that he was a married man?
PATRICK: No.
She didn't know it.
CHARLES: Whoa.
She didn't know he was a married man.
Jesus.
PATRICK: Now this is how
I'm gonna tell you... I'll tell you everything
because obviously these people first and foremost...
These people? We're your brother and sister.
I'm sorry. Excuse me, excuse me.
Now, we these people? You're raised up in the house.
My mother raised you.
Mr. Charles Leigh...
and Ms. Carla Leigh
don't know the story, okay?
Because myself and her got into plenty arguments,
"Your mother is a slut
"because she messed with a married man."
"You ain't nothing, but this, that, yada, yada, yada."
So, I'm like, "Oh, really?" I'm like, "I don't know this."
I don't know this though.
I'm a baby. I'm a kid.
She knew my...
She knew my father was married.
Everybody know.
They've been together since they were 12 years old.
But most importantly, most importantly,
my father knew he was married.
Exactly.
Okay?
So, therefore, for him to tell my mother
otherwise, who's to blame?
You can't blame my mother.
Okay. Let's get some order.
CHARLES: My father took care of his kids.
Yo, drama queen, take it somewhere else, okay?
We have nothing to do with this.
(PATRICK SOBS)
Nothing to do with it.
JUDGE LAKE: Well, you know what?
As much as you have been talking, Charles Leigh, Jr.,
this morning...
Uh-hmm.
I will say what you just said was so correct.
I see you all.
It's an emotional day.
You're dealing with
the legacy of your father,
you're dealing with things that adults created,
situations adults created,
and now you, the children, are living it out
in the next generation.
And it's not easy
because you don't understand
how all this happened and what it all means.
That's what I'm trying to help you understand.
CARLA: Now, I'm gonna tell you
about this situation right here.
No, I don't blame his mother, okay?
And I had a real big issue with my father
because I was a daddy's girl.
And if you look at that screen,
I look just like my daddy, okay?
I haven't seen Patrick
since 2007
when they named Bleecker Stadium after my father.
Before that, I couldn't tell you
how long I had seen him,
but I'll tell you the most hurtness feeling
is when my father died.
My brother had to make him go
get in the car with us.
He left my father's funeral...
In the middle of it.
...in the middle of it.
Got up and walked out.
Who in the world does that?
PATRICK: That is a lie. The reason why
I had to leave
or I didn't get into the limousine with them
was because I drove someone else's car
out to the house to make sure everything was right.
I had to bring that car back
because that person did me a favor,
and they had to go to work and to school.
So for them to do me a favor,
I have to make sure they get their vehicle back.
I wasn't refusing anything.
That's what I'm saying. People put words in my mouth
and make it seem like I'm the bad guy.
CHARLES: That whole thing is your father's funeral.
JUDGE LAKE: Well, what he said...
Well, if you listen
to what he's saying, he's saying...
He's lying.
JUDGE LAKE: Once he knew
he was invited into the car and he could go...
CHARLES: He'd been coming there making arrangements with us.
What do you mean, now all of a sudden...
You're acting like he was not... He was in the paper.
JUDGE LAKE: So, let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
Okay. But this doesn't make sense.
So guys, this is why and this is exactly why I sit here.
Because I hear the testimony
and I can hear when it's inconsistent
with the point you're trying to prove.
If he trying to be
all up in the family, I'm one of the kids
and "Y'all gonna recognize me..."
CHARLES: Yeah.
...he'd have been the first one in the limo.
JUDGE LAKE: He had somebody else's car.
JUDGE LAKE: Earlier in your testimony,
you mentioned the obituary,
and I wanna understand that.
JUDGE LAKE: If you take a look...
it says "Charles Leigh, Sr. died peacefully
"and he's survived by four children."
And their four children mentioned.
Yes.
JUDGE LAKE: And then there is
an additional line,
"Also survived by Patrick Leigh of New York."
CHARLES: Yes. And yes.
And that one's a error.
But wait a minute. No. No.
No, no, it wasn't an error.
Everybody did not know
that my father had outside children.
JUDGE LAKE: Listen, everybody that just looks at this screen
can understand
why the writer wrote it that way.
CHARLES: Uh-hmm.
Now, I wish
they would've consulted me
because I could've given them better verbiage.
Right.
And then they wouldn't
seem like,
"And also these people."
Because that's what it reads like
intentionally or not.
CHARLES: We didn't do that intentionally.
JUDGE LAKE: No, I don't believe you did.
At all.
Now speaking of the fact that you have to figure out
how to list outside children,
there is another child in question
that was born outside of your parents' marriage.
CHARLES: Yes.
JUDGE LAKE: I'd like to hear from Kyle.
Ron, can you please escort Kyle into the courtroom?
Yes, ma'am.
You're gonna go up to the witness stand right next to the judge.
KYLE: How you doing, ma'am?
JUDGE LAKE: Hello, Kyle.
Um, thank you for joining us today.
I'd like to ask you, when did you find out
that Charles Leigh, Sr.
was your father?
Well, when I was six years old,
um, I walked in on my mother
basically having sex with my father.
AUDIENCE: Oh.
KYLE: Mother brought me
to the side and told me that
that was my real father.
JUDGE LAKE: Oh, my goodness.
Did you all ever ask your father
about Kyle?
CHARLES: I got on the phone and I called my father,
he told me, "Hell no."
So he told you Kyle was not
his biological child?
Did you grow up having a relationship with him?
KYLE: From six to 12,
like he was coming to get me,
taking me out places and stuff,
like, he would give me school clothes and stuff,
like, he was there for me basically,
that I know of.
Is Charles Leigh, Sr. on your birth certificate?
No, ma'am.
I only got evidence that my birth certificate,
my stepfather signed it.
Let me see that, sir.
So listed on your birth certificate
is your stepfather's name.
KYLE: Yes.
And until six years old,
you thought that was your biological father
until your mother told you?
KYLE: Yes. They had a parade for my father
when they named the field after him.
He got his own field in Albany.
I was there most of the... Mostly all the time.
CHARLES: We didn't even know
he was there. He didn't...
JUDGE LAKE: You never came up
and addressed the family, you just went?
KYLE: Uh-hmm. Your Honor.
Oh, yeah, I mean, I only, like, I've been
to my other brother, Dev,
like, before I even knew he was my brother,
like, we used to always see each other in the neighborhood.
JUDGE LAKE: Really?
KYLE: Just as friends though, like...
Ever since...ever since me and him met,
it's always been... He knows people that I know,
and then we'd chilling the same circumference.
We all have been chilling, and I never knew...
JUDGE LAKE: So you all were friends
and knew each other from the neighborhood and never knew
you were brothers?
DEVERREN: Yes, ma'am.
JUDGE LAKE: And so it's interesting
to me and almost ironic that
this young man
who does not have your father's name listed
on his birth certificate...
DEVERREN: Yeah.
You readily accept
and yet the gentleman
that your father brought home
to live with you all,
raised him with you all,
and his name is on his birth certificate...
CHARLES: Because he thought he was.
JUDGE LAKE: ...you have questioned.
Right. It wasn't... Because...
Why is that?
CHARLES: Because of how...
The resemblance.
If you, Your Honor, I'm just gonna say it right now.
CARLA: If you look at one, two,
and three, and four, oh, you know we related.
You kind of look over there, it's questionable.
I have been questioned this for since he was a baby,
when he was a baby.
You understand? Because, like he said, I live in that house.
JUDGE LAKE: You don't see the physical resemblance
or the features?
The older he got,
the more he start looking
like somebody else's grandson.
Well, maybe he looks like his mom.
BOTH: No, he don't look like her either.
JUDGE LAKE: Listen, it seems obvious
that you all have a level of resentment
towards Patrick
probably because that you knew
what kind of pain your mother had to internalize
to be able to raise him,
forgive your father, and go on about her life
because as much as you all say you invite him in,
if you sat where I sit, you can see the energy
that goes across the aisle towards this young man.
I mean, it... You can feel it.
No, I'm done.
I'm done here in testimony
because I know that the only way
we can figure out how to move forward,
we got to get the results.
Ron, the envelope, please.
DEVERREN: That's my brother and I love you, okay?
These results were prepared by DNA Diagnostics.
Now in order to determine if Kyle Lane
is the brother of Charles Leigh Jr. and Carla Leigh,
we performed a DNA siblingship test
and these are the results.
In the case of Leigh v. Leigh,
it has been determined by this court
that Charles Leigh Jr.
and Carla Leigh
are related to Kyle Lane.
CARLA: Thank you.
CHARLES: Oh, thank you.
CARLA: I knew that.
(APPLAUSE)
Thank you, Jesus.
The next result
are for Patrick Leigh.
In the case of Leigh v. Leigh.
It has been determined by this court
that Charles Leigh Jr.
and Carla Leigh
Yeah! Oh, thank you, Lord!
are not related to Patrick Leigh.
Lord Jesus!
Lord Jesus.
CHARLES: No. No. No.
We're not doing this.
But I love you.
We're not doing this.
We're not doing this.
JUDGE LAKE: Patrick.
RON: No contact. Please step over there.
JUDGE LAKE: Give him a minute.
That was tough.
And Ms. Leigh,
I know your "Thank you, Jesus"
was not to be evil,
but I think it hurt him.
It wasn't for evil.
It's the...
JUDGE LAKE: No, it's the stress of not knowing all these years.
CARLA: (INDISTINCT) That my mother went through.
Just give him a minute.
I'm very sorry.
(PATRICK SOBS)
You know. Life goes on.
I mean, you know, ain't nothing I could do about it,
but I'm good. I just wanna go home to my boys.
JUDGE LAKE: I want you to understand
that for a man
to take you as a child
into his home
with his other children and his wife
and jeopardize the family he had built,
that means he had a lot of love for you.
Can I give him a hug, please?
JUDGE LAKE: Just ask...
PATRICK: I don't want.
JUDGE LAKE: He doesn't want a hug right now.
I'm good. I'm good.
JUDGE LAKE: He doesn't want a hug right now,
and that's okay.
This is where I think
we begin the healing process.
We have the truth.
We have counseling, we have resources for you all,
and we wanna start helping you all walk through this.
One thing's for certain,
your father has left a legacy
on the field and off the field.
Patrick, I wish you the very best of luck.
Court is adjourned.
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