This is the DeliveranceMInistry.FM video cast number 39.
Welcome to another episode of Deliverance Ministry. FM, where we give you proven insights
about the demonic grill in deliverance ministry so you can wage spiritual warfare more effectively.
This Dr Don Ibbitson once again. I'm happy to be here in front of the microphone along
with my cohost, Dr Phyllis Tarbox. Hello Phyllis to my right again. As always. Thank you. It's
good to be here. It is good. We have a lot of fun doing these. We, uh, we try to put
them together the best we can and based on the inputs that we get from you. So just say
that right from the get go please. Specific topics or things you'd like us to go into
in the row of spiritual warfare or deliverance, ministry or demonic realm, please let us know
and we'll look that over. And if it's good enough interest, we'll put something together
for you. Today. We've got a continuation of the series that we're doing on spiritual warfare,
if you like, or tactics or emphasis for different temperament types.
In the first episode of this series, episode 37, we talked about and introduced the concept
of temperaments, talked about the five different temperament types and different aspects of
the toe of the temperament, encourage you to go back and listen to that. Certainly can't
go over that here today, but if you listen to that and then listen to this, you'll get
a lot out of it. Today we're going to be focusing on the supine temperament or the servant temperament,
if you like. It's one of the five, and we're going to talk about the, the, the, the aspects
of the temperament of the main weaknesses of the temperament, most comic demonic strongholds
that we see in people who are primarily have this temperament, and then we're going to
give you some specific suggestions if you like, that you can use to maybe wage spiritual
warfare warfare more effectively.
Because the whole idea of this series is that we, our temperaments. Well, you know, God
gave us temperaments, were fearfully and wonderfully made. The demonic kingdom can observe us here.
What we say, they see what we do. They know a lot about us. They don't need to read our
minds to know a lot and they'll use different tactics or people based upon how we're wired,
if you like, so that's the purpose why, and we want to jump right in now to talk about
the supine temperament. So Phyllis start us off. Give us some of the main elements, if
you like, or characteristics of someone who is primarily a supine and we've talked about
they can be inclusion controller affection, three different aspects of the temperament,
but maybe in one or more of these areas, they're primarily supine in temporary. What does that
mean?
Well, these are the servants, Lord, this. These are the ones that have the servant's
heart. I think they had the most sensitive of all the hearts and most gentle. It truly
are that they. They will serve until they can't serve any longer. They can also. That
can also help them to be a doormat a little bit to hurt feelings. If they're overserving
and they're not getting the recognition that they need. There are typically followers.
They're not leaders. They don't want to make the decision. They don't want to be put in
charge, but they, but they, but they want to have a good, they want to follow and they
want to help
and they're dependable. They are, they will serve, like you say, just in there. They'll
do it
[inaudible] they will. And they're, like I said before, they're very gentle, so they're
not going to overrun anyone. They're not going to force their way. They, they, they're very
happy to follow along and just be. I'm a very loyal followers. So they, they're the kind
of people that enforce the policies that are set by others, um, and, and their, and their
servants. So,
and I think in the realm of what we call affection or the ability to their interactions with
what we call deep personal relationships, they are, um, they're very guarded, emotionally
tend to be, and they will open up when they feel safe, so they need to feel safe. But
if they're treated well properly, they're just taped because of their servants and they'll
give and give their capable of just absolute and total commitment. I call this to the deep
relationships. I call this the cat temperament because they will observe you and they wait
for you to approach them.
They're not going to approach you, they're not going to initiate, so they'll wait for
you to approach them and then you almost have to prove to them that they're safe and with
you, but like you said, once they are the, the cat will just love you and per around
you and just be as lovable as they can be.
Exactly, and and that's it. They tend to be the ones in the back. They like my servant
nature's I have to serve there in the background. Right. Many times you won't always hear them,
but man, the great strengths as they say, I think there's a worth emphasizing because
we're next we're going to talk about the weaknesses, but looking churches, ministers, people, everybody
wants them. Everybody loves the supines because they will serve the, the generally the day
they like people and they have a desire to serve others and it's genuine. For the most
part. It really is. It's A. There's a. There comes at a bit of a cost. We'll talk about
some of the weaknesses associated with it, but generally they tend to be gentle spirits
are just created that way and very gentle, very dependable as they say. They will follow
the book, follow the rules. Um, they're good, great caretakers, very loyal. Um, and once
again, they're able to really, they will pour into our relationships and they'll give you
the shirt off the pop the back. Literally. Exactly. Literally,
I've had them do that to me. I walk up to them and say, Oh, I just love that scarf.
And the next thing I know it's in my purse.
Wow. Got To be careful with them. That said, yeah, that's. I mean, that's nice. That's
like a c suite people sweetheart, sweet, sweet, gentle spirits. And so those are the streets
now. And once again, the whole idea is, or the temperaments centers, every temperament
is there is no better or worse temperaments. We've talked about the five different temperaments
and melancholy supine sanguine cleric in phlegmatic. This is the supine temperament. There's no
better or worse, but there are different and there are strengths and weaknesses with each
temperament. And the ID is now, as we look at the weaknesses, if we got weaknesses, it
shows us where we're vulnerable in the realm of the demonic realm. And it also shows this
and just the counseling side of things and say, well Lord, this is a weakness in my temperament,
or change me and transform me in this area.
Right? It's not an excuse for bad behavior. You know this. Sometimes people, oh, that's
just how I am. It's like, well no, you know, there's weaknesses there and when you know
what they are and you give the Lord permission and you yield and give them the opportunity
to make changes there and being transformed into his likeness, there can be real, there
can be real. It really changes come forth. So what are some of the main specific weaknesses,
if you like, that the, that are common to the supine temperament? I think the biggest
weakness right off the bat is that they have a very difficult to make expressing their
needs to others. They, they pretty much expect you to read their mind. Like I give you an
example I was in the car with, with one, I won't name names, but I was in the car with
a supine and I asked that person would you, would you like to stop at Dunkin donuts on
the way to church and get a cup of coffee?
And their answer was, oh no, no, no, that's okay. And then a few minutes later I said,
are you sir, you don't want a cup of coffee on before we go to church? No, no, no, that's
okay. And then I said, you know what? I want a cup of coffee so I'm going to pull in. And
their response was, oh, thank God that you. And I looked at them and I said, why in the
world would you not tell me the first time I asked you that you want. Well, I didn't
want to put you out of your way. I didn't want. I didn't want you to have to make a
special stop just for me. And that's very typical of the supine. Exactly. And I think
you, you hear that a lot. I hear it. Marriage counseling or counseling situations, and I'm
sure you did too and say, well especially, well, I shouldn't have to tell you.
You should know. You should expect that of their relationship. And I get it sometimes.
The marriage counseling situation, Somebody told them 20 times and they still don't hear.
I get that, but many times they're just not really good. That one spouse or that one person
was saying what they want. It's, it's just, you know, out of fear, out of just not feeling
good enough, feeling worthless. It's like you said, well, I don't want to put you out.
It's like, who am. I know they want, they want what the. I think the servant part comes
into this too because they really want what you want. They want you to be happy first.
Uh, even just in choosing a restaurant, well where would you like to go? Oh, wherever you
want to go. Well, they have desires or they'd like to go, but they'll defer those desires
to make the other person happy for awhile. And then of course if their needs aren't being
met then they get resentful because you know the other person should have just known that
eventually going to want to go where I like
to go and you should know where that is. And so yeah, there, that's where that indirect
behavior comes in with that
indirect behavior. They don't, they're not real good at telling people what they need
or what their needs are. And so that's a problem. They don't express their needs, they don't
get them out there easily. That's a weaknesses and kind of related to that. But, but, but,
but the next step forward in terms of your relationship with what we see is that people
who are primarily supine in an area can really live a life very few boundaries in their life.
They are completely getting override by others. Their life is not their own.
It can be doormat. So doormat is the word that's used with this one because there's
no boundaries. They just get walked on by everyone and they'll refer to themselves that
way. I feel like a doormat in this relationship
growing the whole thing of boundaries. I mean, we've done another podcast on that, certainly
a lot of articles and that be sessions unto itself, but the whole concept of boundaries
is it you've got to take control of your life knowing when to say yes, how to say no. It
taken troll of your life and we mentioned it before. We'll mention Kim, some good resources
out there but called boundaries by cloud and townsend. There's a whole series of books.
If you need help in that area, do it by the book before you read it. Prayerfully say,
Lord, show me what I need to learn in here and give me grace to start doing it and, but,
but that, but that whole realm of boundaries and sometimes you have to have people have
read the book. They don't know how to implement them in. And even, you know, the good news
is even as someone with a supine temperament who is not good at saying what they needs
are, they've got to learn how to set up boundaries in and by boundaries over run means they just
don't feel like their control.
They say yes to everything. When some part of them saying, no, no, no, and then sometimes
they'll say no to something that they, that maybe they want to really do great and they
just, they just can't, they can't get it right. And their, their temperament type is such
that. And what's the function of their temperament, their, what's called more of a dependent person.
They don't like to be in charge of other people. They don't like to be in charge of situations.
They want to be involved in the process and even in things that involve them, they don't
want somebody making the decision for them but points helpful a lot of times if they
can have somebody with them who can help them sort through the detail.
I got a perfect example of that. Um, I had a client who said, you know what? My husband
went out on our lunch on his lunch hour, any bought us a house and I said, really? A house
just like that. And she and I said, and she was angry and I said, why is it bad house?
No, it's an awesome house. And I said, does it have what you want in it? It's more than
I could've ever expected in a house. And I said, well, why are you upset? Because he
didn't ask me. He didn't include me in the decision. Now a house, that's a pretty big
deal. This isn't like buying a, you know, but he was really trying to surprise her and
bless already went to the full throttle link that to get her everything that she wanted,
but he didn't stop and includer. And I think that's the whole big thing with the supine.
They want to be included. If you include them, they're probably going to go along with whatever
it is that you, that you want to do. But if you don't include them, that's when you're
gonna start to get the anger. Or in their case they call it hurt, right? It hides. It
hides as, as, as anger. It's anger, it's high, it's hiding behind. I am hurt, but it's really
anger.
Yeah, and that's a point worth emphasizing that somebody who's surprised. One, am I living?
I know somebody supine. You'll very rarely see them, maybe necessarily get angry, but
you will hear them say, when something goes sideways, they'll say, well, you hurt my feelings.
That hurt my feelings. Well, that's them expressing anger. They're angry and rather than break
furniture and throw things around or go off and power, they will just. They will just
say, you hurt my feelings and it is important. If you're a smart person with that and want
to get along with that other person, you will. Your antenna night, your spiritual attending
will pick up on that and recognize that as anger, but that's important. Yeah, their,
their feelings are hurt and yes, it can be that somebody who does something without including
them or they're not asked to be part of something, you know the Supines, they'll be the ones
that'll stand around at church after the service. Some people are going to lunch and and they're
not going to initiate, hey, let's go to lunch, but they're sitting there seeing whole when
they hear about somebody going on, so please, please include me, invite me, invite me, invite
me in. Innovate. They're hoping that somebody will do that. Once again, that they're not
real good at expressing their needs. That's going to be the typical area, so I'm not expressing
their needs. Boundaries in your life typically overrun. Those are two of the main weaknesses.
What's the third one?
They need to be recognized for what they do. I mean, if you've got a servant that's working,
working, working tirelessly behind the scenes. Sometimes it's easy not to recognize them
and if they don't get at least a little bit of recognition, they don't need like the big
presentation in front of everyone, but they need to hear, wow, you did a really great
job. Are we really noticed what you did? Because I've had clients come in and say, I. I did
all the sewing and I did all of this planning and I did all of this work for this one big
production at church and I was the one that was behind the scenes and I had all these
great ideas and I'm the one that brought them up to the table and we did them all and, and
nobody stopped and said, thank you to me because I was behind the scenes guy. I totally got
overlooked, not even one word of thank you and I'll tell you what that's pulled them
out of that church situation because they didn't get. They didn't get the recognition
that they wanted.
Exactly, and so you know, in those situations that we counsel people, we've talked about
using counseling or temperaments and counseling, separate situations. Our Council, that person
will say, well, look, if somebody doesn't thank you, you need to get your approval.
Just receive it from the Lord. Right? And that's one of the ways to counter that because
people are going to fail us and whatever you do, do it with all your heart as unto the
Lord. Well Lord, I'm doing this on to you, and so that can be a a counseling response
to this, but once again, our focus here on this podcast is looking at the spiritual warfare
side of it, understanding and recognizing that the demonic kingdom observes and sees
and knows what's going on and if we've got these demonic strongholds in in us than we
need deliverance from then then that's, that's it delivers issue and that's important. But
given these main weaknesses that we see and there's, there's others, but we're just covering
three here. We want to now talk about our experience in terms of demonic strongholds
that we see that operate. I'm heavily in people's lives. And so, um, one of the most common
things, I guess, the things that we would see is that demonic stronghold of fear operating
because the, the, the supine wants to please, I think the fear comes in with the enemy taunting
them that they've like let somebody down or they disappointed someone or if they've said
the wrong thing. So typically you'll see spirits of insecurity, inadequacy, fear, failure,
fear of rejection, worry, and then, you know, hyperactive thoughts that lead to unrest because,
you know, the, their mind just keeps thinking going over. Like I'll talk to different supine
temperaments in the office and I'll say, do you lay in bed at night and just go over the
day and everything that you said and buy, maybe I've offended this person or maybe I
shouldn't have said that. And they're like, oh my gosh, yes. I, I'm up at night just worrying
that I've let someone down or I did the wrong thing
and then that way there's somewhat can be similar to the, to the melancholy, right?
We talked about the minds don't shut off, but, but this is a little different there.
Their thoughts focused on others not on themselves. How did they feel? Others, what could they
have said or should have said maybe in that situation, but, but you're right. It's that.
It's fear. So that's, that's a big one. Here's the big one in security, in that realm of,
of um, of dealing with fear of failure just in general, not being good enough, not, not
measuring up, not doing enough and you know, and because sometimes you know, you start
doing, doing, doing, if you, that's how you measure your worth. Buying a lot of supine
standard. Measure that by how much you're doing. If you're not doing enough, you know.
So
I have a hard time just being there. They were cutting content. Being content is being,
they, they, they just do, they want to do. That's how they feel. Like they get their
respect. And so there's a lot of fear failure if it's not, they're not doing it well.
Second stronghold area, major store hold area. We see it's really under that strongly that
what we consider the strong man of heaviness. And that's really a spirit of guilt that's
at work at a person's life. Right? How does, how does that come about? Well, I think, you
know,
they want to save. It, wants you to feel obligated and responsible so it can kind of victimize
you, you know, they, they want the guilt thing makes you feel like you're not doing enough,
like you're guilty. Um, its goal is to bring in like weariness fatigue and to wear you
out because you, you know, if you try to put up boundaries, um, and the other person like
rebels against that, um, then that guilt spirit always kind of makes you feel like you're
left holding the bag. Like, you know, your codependency. That's a whole different, different
topic. Do you think a lot of supply maybe have a tendency to gravitate that codependency
world? I definitely think that's a very good point to bring up. Yeah. And then that, that
guilt will leave them, you know, kind of lonely and wallowing in self pity to because they're,
they haven't performed well.
So, so having this guilt there. And then another area that we see is in under the realm of,
of, um, of jealousy, of the strong man of jealousy in the realm of bitterness, right?
Because, um, the uh, you know, sometimes we've seen where those who are, who want to rescue
people, sometimes they'd be right, they become and they get angry at being in feel like being
used. I think rescuers supine rescuers almost always ended up the victim because they overgive
then the entitlement on the other side, I don't have the boundaries, no boundaries,
and then the other person becomes entitled and then they expected and then eventually
the supine doesn't get asked. It's just they're just expected to do it and that then they
get angry and that's where the anger and the resentment comes in, right? They get frustrated
and then of course it starts.
Then it starts with the self blaming in the cell finger and the self impatience because
they should have known better. And they know well enough, but usually they don't pick up
on it until, because their heart is always disturbed they want to serve. So they'll go
after these people with high level needs, but then they don't know when to stop and
they crosses that line and you know, I've heard people say like, even church people
say, well, I just really wanted to be a servant for the pastor and I got into the church and
you know, now I'm the church secretary and here's the thing. Now they don't even ask
me. They just expect me to do all the stuff that is not secretarial and I'm out there
doing it. I'm way out of my comfort zone and now I'm angry because they don't even ask
me anymore.
They just put more and more on my plate more and more on my plate. So yeah, that's, once
again, you can just kind of see the progression there. There's, there's a, there's a pure
heart there in a pure desire to serve and which is good. And their strengths with weaknesses
are there that you know our own flesh, a couple with the tactics of the demonic realm will
will seek to pervert that and twisted and these an open door for now that person couldn't
be angry and they're bitter and they're guilty if they're not doing nothing, right, not doing
enough and things, just things just kinda get out of alignment. So those are some of
the most common strategies that we see of the demonic kingdom trying to work in the
open doors. And people ended up with these strongholds in their life. Fear, bitterness,
anger for that name, even resembling. So given that, then once again, as we've say, if you've
got demonic strongholds,
there they were. The only remedy is deliverance from demonic spirits. So that's first and
foremost. But aside from that, and apart from that, then there's the element after from
parchman delivers this whole out. One element of spiritual warfare is being able to discern
and resists spirits. So we need to be able to discern the spirits when they come back
to the house. So one of the realm of discerning of spirits, these, you know, when the being
able to do these thoughts of guilt or you're not doing enough or you need to do this so
people will like you. That's just part of the specific mind battles. I believe that
the, that the, the, the, the supine temperaments really neat to get to, to get a hold up for
some other temperaments there. Loner types of these thoughts. While you're not doing
enough, they're just going to blow all that off. They're not gonna. We're not going to
be motivated by that. But if there's these guilt spirits of guilt and whatnot coming
upon them, then they need to capture those thoughts and, and replaced those ungodly thoughts
with Gavi thoughts. But, but what are some other specific things like they need to be
sensitive to and be aware of for the tactics of the demonic Roman?
Well, I think, you know, I think the end, I think the enemy is going to try to get them
to lean on people instead of leaning on God. They have a tendency to ask 500 people their
opinion on something and then they'll get confused and you know their go to place should
be first to God know God's word certainly, but to express their needs and their desires
then to the lord first and and rely on him, rely on me to reveal things to. Right,
right, right. Yeah. I think. I think the function of the person's temperament is they need.
They. They value help. Godly counsel plans fail for lack of counsel with many advisors.
They succeed so supine. Sometimes need somebody alongside to help them to tell them what to
do. One or two good right advisors. That's not opinions. The nose opinions like noses
thing. You're right and it's so, so, so the, so they can. They can do that as well in this
and then being able to get into this place of rest. Right? This stopped this place where
they're not endlessly strive,
right? There's a scripture in Ecclesiastes, these 2:22 through 23 that talks about that.
It says, repent for anxious striving that brings you to unrest. It says, what do people
get for all their toilet, anxious striving, which they labor under the sun. All their
days of work is grief and pain, and even at night their minds do not rest. So that striving,
that trying to please you got to really be aware of that. You gotta be aware that you
know, you don't have to make everybody happy. You know you're first and foremost thing is
to be pleasing before the Lord. And, and um, then at night when your mind starts to do
that, spin, that unrest thing, there is a place where you know you need to cast your
thoughts upon the Lord. Listen, when you lay down at night, I don't know too many people
where their minds just don't start to unwind the day, but this temperament, it's a little
bit more so when that stuff starts to come and you start to feel guilty even at night,
remember Romans Eight, one, there is no condemnation and God just give these things over to the
Lord and then shift your thought process.
Pick something that you want to think about. Say, Hey, I can think about what I want to
think about. That's a good thing about having your own mind. If you want to think about
laying in bed at night with your head laying on the Lord's chest and you telling him how
much you love him. I tell you what, you'll go to sleep really fast, but you can change
your thoughts and meditate on what you want to meditate on.
Philippians four, eight. Just changed it and a good thing to do too is before you go to
bed, if you've had a rough day, like I said, is released these things unto the Lord and
then find a, find a psalm, find you know, ask the Lord to give you a psalm and the number
of a psalm and go read the Psalm. Pick out something in it that's encouraging, that shifts
your focus to that good place of Philippians four, eight and meditate on that before you
go to bed. That's going to let you know the Lord is thinking about you, that he's got
you written in his word and you're not going to go to bed depressed and sad and feeling
guilty, and as you go to bed with your mind lifted up on things, there's a good tendency
that you're going to wake up that way.
Exactly. That's good. That's good. That's a good way to end the day in a good way to
start the next one, and the third suggestion we would make is that we talked about some
pines not being good at saying and sharing what's on their heart. You can learn how to
be bold, bold, but Paul even talks about about coming boldly before the throne of grace and
the help of God to be able to speak and say what's on your mind. It's a skill. You can
learn how to do that, but you got to purposely know I need to purpose to tell people, close
to me, my husband, my spouse, my life, my pastor, what's on my heart, what's on my mind,
and most times they may not know and they want to hear from you. They want to know,
you want to know and the and so be bold. Don't want to put somebody out.
I don't want to say I want a don't just say no, I want to know what it might be. This
one I need, I need, I don't. And you can learn how to do that. Be Bolder only before the
Lord, but even before other people and just it's like, just do it. Just start taking baby
steps. Right? And I think there's, you know, that's just it, it's, it's a tackle the enemy
just to keep you isolating those thoughts thing and say, no, I'm going to step out and
say what's on my heart. I'm going to say what I need. You're not being selfish. You're not
being rude. You're not thinking about you, focused on you, you, you know you're, you're,
you're doing what's right before the Lord. And as you get little victories, you will
get bigger victory.
I think that's a really good point because you know what? This temperament stuffs. They
stuff it all down. They don't say what they think and then something triggers them where
they just explode all at once. All this stuff comes pouring out of him and it could be over
something so minor that the other person just sits there and looks at him and thinks they're
crazy. Wow. There blew up over that because they don't have a clue. All the other things
that you've kept to yourself, you haven't spoken, so yeah, you got to start to let those
things out a little bit at a time just so that you don't hold on to a mall and become
that boiling angry, furious person that looks like a crazy woman or man,
I think that's. I think that's a good. That's. I think that's a good point to conclude on.
Sweet, gentle spirits. Just be bold. Say what's on your mind. Get the grace of God. You know
you've you. That servant's heart as a beautiful thing. You're not a doormat. You are the head
and not the tail. You don't want to be an enabler. You're not to be used and abused,
but learning how to stand up for yourself and see what's on your mind and your heart
that will, that will help you, and it will diffuse a lot of the plans of the enemy coming
against you. So anything else you want to add? I think that's good. All right. We hope
you've enjoyed this session on the supine temperament. We're going to be talking about
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