what?
yeah, ok, they want..yeah
but they used to be moderate..?
now they want what ? .. Jihad ?!
a local JiHad ?
alright, let them join in, got it.. good
GOD, Syria, these people are absolutely Clueless
so, what do you want ?
Ambassador, its an honor, my name is Wagner,
im bavarias foreign minister
excuse me ?
yea, HORST said the gym is full so now we started to do foreign policy
excuse me ?!
you see im supposed to end the syrian conflict by friday, and you are involved.. ?
.. so we have this proposal
4 years civil war, a good dozen parties involved, all we were missing is a peace proposal from bavaria.
HORST said that too..
the proposal is basically always in effect. CLOSE BORDERS.
but in this case close syrian borders.. from weapons
thats not a plan..
you have a better one ?
yes we have a magnificent plan for the whole middle east. its all about REGIME CHANGE.
in syria.. for years we are succesfully working on destabilizing the regime
we spent 1 billion each year in training and arming rebels
1 bill..? wow thats like a schooling initiative , hah OK..
now, your tediously trained forces (the rebels) are being bombed by Putin
yea, thats compromising our war.. our PEACE i mean..
exactly, and Putin bombs by invitation from the Assad Regime, therefor in accordance with international law
whereas your regime change aided by rebels is a breach of international law.. its a mess
look, international law is an important guidance for other countries.
WE.. are more guided by ..
guided by what we want..
what the syrian people want i mean..
the syrian people want assad gone
exactly
there are surveys stating that a big part of the syrian people prefer Assad, is that not interesting ?
no..
because syria is not just a brutal dictatorship, but it was also a land with relatively good medical care,
relatively good education and womens rights, .. but thats probably not interesting ether.. ?
no,.. look
assad used poison gas, against their own people.
and that is appalling, and it is proven that it was assad, right ?
of course, or president obama would not have said that publicly ... exactly
except that..
your american MIT, that messa..
(the exhibition centre)
massachusetts, .. institute of technology, one of the leading elite universities.
yea them, they doubt obama's statement...
who do you believe more ? an elite university or the american president ?
the american president, i believe
by using poison gas assad is just as bad as Saddam Hussein and Hitler,
and you cant speak to Hitler - no you cant.
thats why we were forced to arm the rebels
directly or indirectly
so thats were the weapons ended up, for example at the islamic front or the IS
by the free syrian army
yea of course what else could you have done..than arming them
so were did those weapons come from ?
many weapons came through turkey, many from lybia. gadafi had them laying around still..
gadafi, exactly they helped toppled him together with Nato in 2011.. had to
gadafi violently opressed the arab spring
so he is like... hitler ..?
if you say so ...
ok but ..
there is a study by harvard & amnesty international saying that the big violence was started by the protesters
and gadafis army never attacked civilians like western media reported.
who do you believe more ? an elite uni, the UN, amnesty, or the western media ?
the american president
what do you want ?
we saved lives in lybia
except for the 10 000 deaths after the intervention..
excuse me ? you see 50 000 victims in a war that was justified by preventing said victims
you didnt come up with that sentence did you ?
yea its from a criminal justice professor from "the time" (magazine)
who you believe more, the time or the american president ?
i have to ask my lawyer
i have no idea what you want
gadafi ... he is gone
thank god
whats also gone in lybia is the high eductation standards, the good medical care, the womens rights..
somebody has to make sacrifices for a succesful regime change
succesful yes.. regime change, so who is succesfully ruling lybia's civil war now ?
lets see.. basically radical islamists and the IS
the IS, you dont say, how they get there ?
from iraq
so what happened there ?
WE.. right
iraq was the first brick in our big plan
iraq used to have a relatively high education standard, medical care and something similar to womens rights
fine it was a torture dictatorship, you said hussein is a .... hitler ?
then came the regime change
then civil war, then chaos, and eventually.. whops - IS
you dont want to seriously blame the development of the IS on us americans.. ?
no no no no ..
except that..
after invading iraq you destroyed the economy, and let 100 000 + soldiers go from the military ..
we are no monsters we left them with some social help: the weapons
so you left 100 000 + angry men with guns on their own
these men had a free choice. IS or Kindergartner
did they have many kindergardens ?
no
lets forget the influence of iran and saudi arabia
but can you understand this creates the impression that your regime changes bring about chaos ..?
you see.. isnt it interesting that syria, iraq, lybien, these men are now sleeping in our GYMS .. (asylum)
no and you are forgetting that all of this is part of a big plan,
yea people forget that alot with you
i think nobody pointed this out more clear than american General Wesley Clark, Nato commander in the cosovo war
thats not a plan ..
what do you need a plan for when you have good military
and if you dont like it we can leave, putin does the Job just as well .. have a nice day !
its just that..
look ah ...
we have the syrian conflict, no prospect of peace because we dont talk to assad because of the poison gas..
so we sad they are ... hitler ? exactly
your MIT said, that obamas depiction was wrong ( that assads troups shot the poison gas )
what are you suggesting .. ? nothing.
what if it cant be they always say .. look
MIT physically calculated the rocket had a reach of 2 miles tops
the poison gas could travel 2 miles, here was the assad regime, so they were out of reach. they were too far away..
Obama said its an insult to common sense to think anybody other than assad fired the rockets.
but in the same speech he convenes a UN Report that doesnt even say who did it..
are you trying to say the nobel piece price winner
you mean the nobel piece prize winner who bombed the other nobel piece prize winner "doctors without borders" ?
a war crime were people burned alive in a hospital
bavaria ..
isnt that the small state in the south of germany with good health care..
a high educational standart and equal rights for women ..
your political leaders keep saying there is no party allowed to the right of them
you know what
i'll tell HORST
foreign policy is..
something for professionals
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