>> Adrienne: ON THIS FRIDAY
NIGHT
--
>> THESE ARE NOT HOAX DEVICES.
>> Adrienne: UNDER ARREST.
THE MAN POLICE SAY MAILED BOMBS
TO
THE OPPONENTS OF TRUMP.
>> Andrew: WHAT THEY ARE
OFFERING
IN EXCHANGE FOR INFORMATION AND
WHAT TORONTO POLICE SAY IN
RESPONSE.
>> TO BE CLEAR, WE DON'T THINK
THERE'S A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM.
>> Adrienne: CANADIAN TELECOS
ARE
CALLED TO ACCOUNT AFTER A CBC
NEWS
INVESTIGATION, WHAT YOUR SERVICE
PROVIDERS TOLD THE C.R.T.C.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
FULL OF INTOLERANCE, EMBOLDENED
BY
HATEFUL RHETORIC.
THE DETAILS ARE EMERGING ABOUT
THE
MAN ACCUSED OF MAILING BOMBS TO
PROMINENT DEMOCRATIC FIGURES IN
THE
UNITED STATES.
HE IS A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN
AND A
BIG FAN OF THE U.S. PRESIDENT.
>> YEAH, WE JUST TOOK HIM INTO
CUSTODY.
>> Adrienne: THE SUSPECT
ARRESTED
IN FLORIDA IS CESAR SAYOC,
CHARGED
WITH ILLEGAL MAILING OF
EXPLOSIVES,
THREATENING A FORMER PRESIDENT.
IF CONVICTED HE WOULD FACE UP TO
48
YEARS IN PRISON BUT THE DANGER
FOR
THE PUBLIC MAY NOT BE OVER JUST
YET.
>> TODAY'S ARREST DOESN'T MEAN
WE
ARE OUT OF THE WOODS.
THERE MAY BE OTHER PACKAGES IN
TRANSIT NOW.
>> Adrienne: JUST TODAY MORE
SUSPICIOUS PACKAGES WERE
INTERCEPTED WHILE EN ROUTE TO
THREE
MORE OPPONENTS TO THE U.S.
PRESIDENT MAKING IT A TOTAL OF
14
PROMINENT DEMOCRATS TARGETED SO
FAR
BY THE BOMB MAKER.
SO WHO IS CESAR SAYOC?
LYNDSAY DUNCOMBE TAKES A CLOSER
LOOK.
>> Reporter: BY MANY ACCOUNTS
CESAR
SAYOC WAS DETERMINED TO DO HARM.
>> THOUGH WE ARE STILL
ANALYZING THE DEVICES IN OUR
LABORATORY, THESE WERE NOT HOAX
DEVICES.
>> Reporter: HE WAS ARRESTED
NEAR
AN AUTO PARTS STORE WHERE HE
ALLEGEDLY PURCHASED FLAMMABLE
CHEMICALS LAST WEEK.
THEY TRACKED HIM THROUGH
FINGERPRINTS ADDRESSED TO MAXINE
WATERS.
D.N.A. EVIDENCE ON OTHER
MAILINGS
ALSO POINT TO HIM.
SAYOC, AMATEUR BODYBUILDER AND
FORMER STRIPPER HAS A LONG
CRIMINAL
HISTORY, INCLUDING ARREST FOR
DRUGS, FRAUD AND THEFT.
IN 2002 HE PLEADED GUILTY TO A
BOMB
THREAT CHARGE AFTER THREATENING
TO
BLOW UP A POWER COMPANY.
HIS FORMER BOSS AT A RESTAURANT
SAID HE IS A RACIST.
SHE IS GAY.
>> MORE THAN ONCE HE TOLD ME IF
HE
HAD COMPLETE AUTO -- AUTONOMY
I
HAD COMPLETE AUTONOMY I
WOULD BURN IN HELL WITH THE
BLACKS,
JEWS AND HISPANICS AND EVERYONE
ELSE.
>> A TWITTER ACCOUNT WHICH
APPEARS
TO BELONG TO SAYOC FEATURES
THREATS
AGAINST MANY DEMOCRATS TARGETED
INCLUDING JIM BIDEN CALLING HIM
A
PIECE OF SLIME TRASH, HUG YOUR
WIFE
IT SAYS.
AND APPEARS TO SHOW SAYOC AT A
TRUMP RALLY.
HIS SIGN "CNN SUCKS".
ASKED IF HE WAS AWARE HIS IMAGE
WAS
ALL OVER THE SUSPECT'S VAN HIS
ANSWER --
>> President Donald Trump: I DID
NOT SEE MY FACE ON THE VAN, I
KNOW HE PREFERRED ME OVER OTHERS
BUT I DIDN'T SEE THAT.
>> Reporter: TRUMP TWEETED
REPUBLICANS ARE DOING SO WELL
NOW
THIS BOMB STUFF HAPPENS AND THE
MOMENTUM GREATLY SLOWS.
AT HIS RALLY TRUMP CALLED TO AN
END
FOR POLITICAL DESTRUCTION AND
THEN
BLAMED THE MEDIA.
>> President Donald Trump: THE
MEDIA HAS A MAJOR ROLE TO PLAY,
WHETHER THEY WANT TO OR NOT.
>> Reporter: THE CROWD ATE IT
UP,
CHANTING "CNN SUCKS".
THE SAME SLOGAN FROM SAYOC'S
SIGN.
LYNDSAY DUNCOMBE, CBC
WASHINGTON.
>> Adrienne: YOU HEARD FROM THE
OWNER OF THE RESTAURANT SAYOC
WORKED.
HERE IS MORE FROM HER, SHE SAID
BECAUSE OF HIS VEHICLE HE WASN'T
ALLOWED TO MAKE DELIVERIES
DURING
THE DAY.
>> I HAD TO HAVE HIM DRIVE AT
NIGHT, I COULDN'T HAVE HIM
DRIVING
IN THE DAYTIME.
HE PARKED THE VAN AROUND THE
CORNER.
I NEVER GOT ANY COMPLAINTS FROM
ANY
CUSTOMERS.
IF I DID, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN
FIRED.
AS FAR AS AN EMPLOYEE HE WAS ON
TIME, CORDIAL, ARTICULATE.
I NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH
HIM.
THERE WAS NO THEFT.
MY CUSTOMERS LIKED HIM.
BUT IT WAS JUST HIS POLITICAL
VIEWS
THAT SCARED ME.
BASICALLY, HE WAS A MODEL
EMPLOYEE.
>> Adrienne: OKAY, SO ALL THAT
TALK
ABOUT THE PRO-TRUMP STICKERS ON
SAYOC'S VAN.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK IN MORE
DETAIL.
KEEP IN MIND THE ONES WE WILL
SHOW
YOU JUST COME FROM ONE SECTION
OF
THE PASSENGER SIDE.
THE VAN ITSELF IS COVERED IN
THEM.
THE STICKERS SEEM TO SAY TWO
THINGS
THAT SAYOC WORSHIPPED PRESIDENT
TRUMP AND HAD CONTEMPT FOR
LIBERAL
POLITICIANS AS WELL AS THE
MEDIA,
CNN IN PARTICULAR.
IN ONE IMAGE TRUMP RIDES A TANK
INTO BATTLE BESIDE A BALD EAGLE
FIRING A MACHINE GUN.
TO THE LEFT, HILLARY CLINTON,
BARACK OBAMA AND MICHAEL MOORE
ALL
WITH GUN SIGHTS ON THEM.
ANOTHER TITLED "I HAVE A DREAM"
AND
APPEARS TO SHOW LIBERALS RUNNING
AS
IF THEY ARE BEING SHOT AT.
AND THIS ONE SEEMS PULLED RIGHT
FROM THE 2016, PRESIDENTIAL
CAMPAIGN A SWAMP POPULATED WITH
A
WHOSE WHO OF PROMINENT TRUMP
CRITICS APPARENTLY SINKING IN
THE
SLIME.
A LOT GOING ON IN SAYOC'S MIND.
FOR SOME INSIGHT I'M JOINED BY
BRIAN LEVIN AT CALIFORNIA STATE
UNIVERSITY.
IT FEELS LIKE A TIME OF
HEIGHTENED
POLITICAL FURY AND VIOLENCE.
NOT JUST THE PIPE BOMBS BUT
SHOOTING AT THE REPUBLICAN
BASEBALL
PRACTICE.
BUT DOES YOUR RESEARCH ACTUALLY
BEAR THOSE OUT?
>> YES, IT'S A RISE IN TIDE BUT
SOMETIMES WE HAVE OVERWHELMING
WAVES.
NOVEMBER 2016 WAS THE WORST
MONTH
FOR HATE CRIME IN 14 YEARS, AND
THE
DAY AFTER THE ELECTION THERE WAS
A
BOMB PLOT TO BLOWUP A MUSLIM
POPULATED APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND
THAT WAS THE WORST DAY FOR HATE
CRIME, SINCE 2003, SO WE HAVE
BEEN
SEEING THIS GO UP IN WAVES, THEN
GO
DOWN A LITTLE BIT BUT THE TIDE
IS
RISING AND THE FAR RIGHT HERE IN
THE UNITED STATES IS THE MOST
ASCENDANT.
>> Adrienne: WHAT MAKES IT HARD
FOR
LAW ENFORCEMENT TO GET AHEAD OF
THIS.
>> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
WHAT WE SAW IS THIS RISING TIDE
WHERE GROUPS WERE INVOLVED.
WE SAW THE UNITE THE RIGHT
RALLY.
SINCE THEN WE HAVE SEEN
FRAGMENTATION OF THE
ORGANIZATIONS
AND THEIR LEADERSHIP, WHICH
MEANS A
LOT OF THESE LOOSE CHERIES WHO
WOULD BE CONTENT TO GO TO A
RALLY
OR SPOUT ON THE INTERNET WOULD
BECOME OPERATIONAL.
SO THESE LOANERS BECOME THE
BIGGEST
PROBLEM FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT
BECAUSE
IT'S HARD TO INVESTIGATE A TRAIL
OF
ONE.
>> Adrienne: ALL RIGHT, BRIAN
LEVIN, THANKS VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Andrew: SURROGATE MOTHERS
CANNOT
BE PAID FOR GIVING BIRTH.
BUT WHAT THEY CAN BE PAID FOR
ISN'T
QUITE SO STRAIGHT FORWARD.
WE WILL LOOK AT WHY THAT COULD
SOON
CHANGE.
>> Adrienne: AND WE'VE BEEN
TELLING
YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE MISLEADING
TACTICS CANADA'S TELECOM
COMPANIES
HAVE BEEN USING TO SELL THEIR
PRODUCTS.
TODAY BELL AND ROGERS HAD TO
EXPLAIN THEMSELVES TO THE CRTC.
>> FIRST THE FAMILY OF MURDERED
BILLIONAIRES HONEY AND BARRY
SHERMAN SAID THEY ARE
FRUSTRATED,
FED UP AND TAKING MATTERS IN
THEIR
OWN HANDS.
THEY ARE OFFERING A $10 MILLION
REWARD FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE
CASE.
THE SHERMANS WERE FOUND DEAD IN
THEIR TORONTO MANSION NEARLY A
YEAR
AGO AND AS RON CHARLES TELLS US,
ALL THIS TIME LATER, NO
SUSPECTS,
NO ARRESTS.
>> Reporter: THE LAWYER FOR THE
SHERMAN FAMILY SAYS THEY ARE
OFFERING THE $10 MILLION REWARD
OUT
OF FRUSTRATION.
AT THE APPARENT LACK OF PROGRESS
IN
SOLVING THE MURDERS LAST
DECEMBER
OF BARRY AND HONEY SHERMAN.
>> ALSO TO LIGHT THE FIRE UNDER
THE
TORONTO POLICE SERVICE AND TO
TRY
TO ENSURE THAT THOSE
INVESTIGATIVE
STEPS, WHICH EITHER HAVE NOT YET
BEEN COMPLETED.
>> IN THE EARLY DAYS AFTER THE
MURDERS
THE FAMILY OF THE BILLIONAIRE
COUPLE HIRED A TEAM OF RETIRED
POLICE DETECTIVES AND FORMER
ONTARIO CHIEF CORONER TO
PRIVATELY
INVESTIGATE THE CASE.
>> OUR PARENTS NEVER LEFT ANYONE
BEHIND.
THEY WERE TAKEN FROM US.
>> THE SHERMANS FOUR ADULT
CHILDREN
HAVE HEAPED CRITICISM ON THE
TORONTO POLICE FORCE, ACCUSING
DETECTIVES OF INITIALLY TREATING
THE DEATHS AS A MURDER SUICIDE
AND
BUNGLING THE SUBSEQUENT DOUBLE
MURDER INVESTIGATION.
THE FAMILIES PRIVATE TEAM SAYS
POLICE FAILED TO CHECK ALL
POSSIBLE
ENTRANCES TO THE HOUSE, COLLECT
ALL
POSSIBLE EVIDENCE AND TAKE
FINGERPRINTS FROM PEOPLE WHO HAD
ROUTINE ACCESS TO THE HOUSE.
>> WE KNOW THERE WERE OTHER
PEOPLE
IN THE CRIME SCENE SUCH AS
HOUSEKEEPERS AND CLEANERS.
WE HAVE SPOKE TO SOME OF THESE
PEOPLE AND SOME HAVEN'T BEEN
FINGERPRINTED.
>> THIS INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN
DONE
TO A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF
PROFESSIONALISM, AND HIGH LEVEL
OF
EXPERTISE.
>> TORONTO'S POLICE CHIEF
DEFENDED
HIS INVESTIGATORS AND WELCOMED
THE
REWARD, AT LEAST THIS THEORY.
>> WE KNOW HISTORICALLY REWARDS
DON'T NECESSARILY HELP WHEN IT
COMES TO CONCLUDING CASES, BUT
THIS
IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT MAY OFFER
GREAT ASSISTANCE.
IT CERTAINLY WILL PUT THE
INVESTIGATION BACK IN THE LIGHT
AGAIN.
>> Reporter: THE SHERMAN FAMILY
HAS
EVEN SET UP A STAFFED TIP LINE,
HOPING THAT SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE
WILL
BE ABLE TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON
WHAT
HAPPENED IN THIS HOUSE TEN
MONTHS
AGO.
RON CHARLES, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Andrew: WE ALSO HAVE THE
CBC'S
JOHN LANCASTER JOINING US NOW.
YOU HAVE BEEN TRACKING THIS
MURDER
INVESTIGATION FOR MONTHS NOW.
WE HEAR ABOUT THE MOMENT THE
SHERMANS WERE FOUND.
>> ONE INSIDE THE HOUSE WAS A
REALTOR, THERE TO SHOW THE HOUSE
TO
A COUPLE CLIENTS.
HE DOESN'T WANT HIS NAME OUT
THERE
BECAUSE THE KILLERS HAVEN'T BEEN
CAUGHT SO WE AGREED TO PROTECT
HIM
IN THAT REGARD.
HE DESCRIBES THE TOUR WAS ALMOST
OVER WITH HIS CLIENTS THEY HEAD
TO
THE BASEMENT LOOKING INTO THIS
GLASS DOOR LEADING INTO THE POOL
AREA AND APPEAR TO BE TWO
BODIES.
HE REFUSES TO BELIEVE THEY COULD
BE
REAL BODIES.
HE DESCRIBED IT TO ME THINKING A
LEFT OVER HALLOWEEN PRANK FROM
SIX
WEEKS EARLIER WHEN IT WAS
HALLOWEEN.
HE SAID WHAT KIND OF RICH PEOPLE
ARE THESE THAT WOULD LEAVE
SOMETHING LIKE THIS AS A SICK
JOKE.
HE REFUSED TO BELIEVE WHAT HE
SAW,
AND SO DID HIS CLIENTS THAT IT
WAS
REAL.
GIVEN THE STAFF THERE WORKING,
NO
ONE EXPECTED TO SEE DEAD BODIES
IN
THE HOUSE.
>> Andrew: THEY HAVE THIS
JARRING
EXPERIENCE, THEY LEAVE THINKING
IT
COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE BODIES YET
THEY WERE WITNESSES TO THIS
GRUESOME SCENE.
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?
>> TWO DAYS LATER HE ON THE
INTERNET READING THE NEWS SEEING
THE SHERMANS HAD BEEN MURDERED
AND
REALIZES WHAT THEY HAD SEEN WAS
REAL.
HE SAID IT WASN'T UNTIL ABOUT A
WEEK OR TWO LATER THOUGH THAT
POLICE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO
HIM
TO GET A STATEMENT FROM HIM,
EVEN
THOUGH HE HAD BEEN THERE WHEN
THE
BODIES WERE DISCOVERED.
HE SAID HE TALKED TO POLICE, HE
HANDED OVER THE SHOES HE WORE
THERE
AND SAID POLICE HAVE SINCE
FOLLOWED
UP TO GET HIS FINGERPRINTS BUT
HAVEN'T ACTUALLY FOLLOWED UP
YET.
>> Andrew: THANK YOU.
>> Adrienne: LET'S TURN TO
ANOTHER
ONGOING CANADIAN INVESTIGATION.
THIS COUNTRY'S TWO BIGGEST
TELECOMMUNICATION COMPANIES ARE
DEFENDING THE WAY THEY AND THEIR
EMPLOYEES DO BUSINESS.
BOTH BELL AND ROGERS SPOKE AT
PUBLIC HEARINGS LOOKING INTO
MISLEADING SALES PRACTICES.
AND AS CATHERINE CULLEN TELLS
US,
IT ALL STARTED WITH A CBC NEWS
INVESTIGATION.
>> ONE COMPLAINT IS ONE
COMPLAINT
TOO MANY.
>> THERE WAS CERTAINLY SOME
CONTRITION FROM ROGERS AND BELL
AT
THESE HEARINGS.
THE THING IS THIS IS ABOUT MUCH,
MUCH MORE THAN ONE COMPLAINT.
>> HOW MANY OTHER SENIOR
CITIZENS
ARE YOU GUYS DOING THIS TO?
>> IT'S BEEN A NON-STOP
NIGHTMARE
FOR ME.
>> THE FIVE DAY HEARINGS WERE
PROMPTED
BY WHAT CBC'S GO PUBLIC
DISCOVERED
WERE MISLEADING SALES TACTICS.
>> I WAS JUST IN SHOCK BECAUSE I
WAS GUARANTEED A PRICE OF $100 A
MONTH FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 24
MONTHS.
>> Reporter: OTHER TELECOMS HAVE
BEEN QUICK TO BLAME THE BIGGEST
COMPANIES.
>> THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH
CERTAIN
PROVIDERS, THE LARGEST
PROVIDERS.
>> WHILE BELL AND ROGERS
EXPRESSED
REGRET FOR SOME SITUATIONS THEY
ALSO DEFENDED THE WAY THEY DO
BUSINESS.
>> IN SOME INSTANCES WE HAD
ABSOLUTELY FAILED THOSE
CUSTOMERS
BADLY.
IN OTHER INSTANCES THERE WERE,
YOU
COULD SEE THE MISUNDERSTANDING
THAT
OCCURRED.
AND IN SOME INSTANCES WE
ACTUALLY
DO NOT THINK IT WAS A
WELL-FOUNDED
COMPLAINT.
>> YES, WE HAVE 50,000 EMPLOYEES
AND IF FROM TIME TO TIME THERE
IS
AN EMPLOYEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT
WE
WILL NEED TO DEAL WITH ON THAT
PARTICULAR ISSUE.
>> BOTH TALKED ABOUT THE NEW
MEASURES THEY WERE TAKING TO
HELP
OUT CUSTOMERS BUT SAID THERE IS
NOT
A LARGER PROBLEM.
>> WE DON'T THINK THERE'S A
SYSTEMIC PROBLEM.
>> IF WE HAD THAT RAMPANT OF AN
ISSUE, CUSTOMERS WOULD NOT WANT
TO
COME TO BELL.
>> Reporter: THE COMPANIES HAVE
PUSHED BACK AGAINST THE IDEA OF
AN
INDUSTRY SALES CODE OF CONDUCT
SAYING THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF
RULES
RIGHT NOW BUT SOME CONSUMER
GROUPS
HAVE ARGUED THE COMPANIES ARE IN
DENIAL AND NEED NEW RULES AND
OVERSIGHT SO AGGRESSIVE SALES
PRACTICES WILL STOP.
THE C.R.T.C. WILL WEIGH IN WITH
ITS
REPORT BY THE END OF FEBRUARY.
CATHERINE CULLEN, CBC NEWS,
OTTAWA.
>> Andrew: OKAY, NOW TO A STORY
THAT IS SO INCREDIBLY PERSONAL
TO
SO MANY IN THIS COUNTRY.
CANADIAN COUPLES SEEKING HELP TO
HAVE A BABY AREN'T ALLOWED TO
HIRE
A SURROGATE MOTHER UNDER THE
LAW.
BUT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO PAY FOR
ISN'T SO CLEAR.
TODAY HEALTH CANADA IS LAYING
DOWN
SOME GROUND RULES.
CHRISTINE BIRAK ASKS THE
QUESTION,
WHAT IMPACT WILL THOSE CHANGES
HAVE?
>> TWO KIDS CAN BE 'HANDFUL.
LYNDSAY JARRETT HAS FIVE.
HER FAMILY IS COMPLETE BUT SHE
IS
HOPING TO HAVE ONE MORE.
FOR A COUPLE SHE HAS NEVER MET.
>> MY BODY IS ABLE THEN WHY NOT
GIVE SOMEONE THAT GIFT.
>> LEGALLY IT HAS TO BE A GIFT.
BUT UNTIL NOW IT WASN'T CLEAR
WHAT
EXPENSES RELATING TO THAT GIFT
COULD BE PAID FOR BY THE COUPLE.
IF THE COST CROSSED THE LINE AND
STARTED LOOKING LIKE PAYMENT,
SOMEONE COULD GO TO JAIL.
NOW THAT THERE IS A PROPOSED
LIST
OF COVERED EXPENSES, JARRETT IS
RELIEVED.
THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS UNDER
THE
ASSISTED HUMAN REPRODUCTION ACT
COVER SURROGATE MOTHERS ALONG
WITH
THOSE DONATING EGGS AND SPERM.
TRAVEL, INCLUDING
TRANSPORTATION,
PARKING, MEALS AND
ACCOMMODATION,
CHILD CARE, LEGAL SERVICES AND
COUNSELING, AND ANY RELATED
INSURANCE.
SOME BIO ETHICISTS ARE
APPLAUDING
HEALTH CANADA FOR FINALLY
PROPOSING
THESE RULES.
>> I THINK THEY STAY TRUE TO THE
PRINCIPLE OF THE LEDGE HE
ISLATION
WHICH IS THE
NON-COMMERCIALIZATION
OF HUMAN REPRODUCTION.
>> Reporter: FERTILITY LAWYER
SHERRY LEVITAN HOPED IT WOULD
ALLOW
FOR SOME PAYMENTS.
>> WHAT'S DISTRESSING TO ME
THERE'S
STILL A THROW BACK.
>> THE LAW IS MEANT TO PREVENT
COERCION AND PREVENT SELLING
REPRODUCTIVE ABILITIES.
LEVITAN ISN'T TAKING ISSUE WITH
THE
PROPOSED REGULATIONS.
>> IT'S HELPFUL TO TELL THEM
EXACTLY WHAT THEY CAN REIMBURSE
FOR
AND WHAT THEY CAN'T.
>> Reporter: BUT OTHERS ARE FAR
MORE CRITICAL.
LIBERAL M.P. ANTHONY HOUSEFATHER
HAS BEEN MOVING TO END THE BAN,
HE
SAID THEY DON'T GO FAR ENOUGH
INSISTING IT'S TIME TO TAKE A
HARDER LOOK AT THE LAWS WHICH HE
CALLS INEFFECTIVE AND OUTDATED.
CHRISTINE BIRAK, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: SOME OTHER STORIES
WE
ARE FOLLOWING TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL", THE FIANCEE OF JAMAL
KHASHOGGI REVEALED SHE DECLINED
AN
INVITATION FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP
TO
GO TO THE UNITED STATES.
IN HER FIRST TELEVISION
INTERVIEW,
HATICE CEMGIZ THOUGHT THE
INVITATION WAS
INSINCERE AND THE PRESIDENT'S
MOTIVATION WAS TO SIMPLY WIN
SYMPATHY WITH THE PUBLIC.
KHASHOGGI WAS KILLED IN THE
SAUDI
CONSULATE IN ISTANBUL THREE
WEEKS
AGO.
HE WAS ORGANIZING PAPERWORK FOR
THEIR PLANNED MARRIAGE.
TURKEY WANT TO EXTRADITE 18
SAUDIS IN
RIYADH IN CONNECTION WITH THE
KILLING.
CANADIAN ROBERT WICKENS IS THE
DRIVER INVOLVED IN THAT
TERRIFYING
CRASH BACK IN AUGUST.
HE IS JUST NOW REVEALING THE
EXTENT
OF HIS INJURIES.
THE 29-YEAR-OLD FROM GUELPH,
ONTARIO IS PARALYZED FROM THE
WAIST
DOWN, HE POSTED THIS VIDEO, SAID
SMALL MOVEMENTS IN HIS LEG BUT
HE
IS FAR AWAY FROM WALKING ON HIS
OWN.
>> Andrew: STILL AHEAD TONIGHT
ON
"THE NATIONAL", CONCRETE IS JUST
ABOUT EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK BUT
MAKING IT ACTUALLY PRODUCES A
LOT
OF POLLUTION.
I WILL TAKE YOU INSIDE A
CANADIAN
COMPANY THAT IS TRYING TO FIX
THAT.
>> Adrienne: AND A LITTLE LATER
THE
NEW SEASON OF "MAKING OF A
MURDERER" IS HERE IS THE TRUE
CRIME
GENRE MORE ENTERTAINMENT THAN
INVESTIGATION?
THE POP PANEL WEIGHS IN.
>> Andrew: FIRST THE FIGHT FOR
EQUAL RIGHTS IN HORROR MOVIES.
>> WE HAVE TO CHANGE THIS, WE
HAVE
TO MAKE SURE E
>> I PRAY EVERY NIGHT THAT
HE WOULD ESCAPE.
>> WHAT THE HELL WOULD YOU DO
THAT
FOR?
>> SO I CAN KILL HIM.
>> Adrienne: THERE SHE IS, THAT
IS
JAMIE LEE CURTIS IN THE LATEST
INSTALLMENT OF THE HORROR
FRANCHISE
"HALLOWEEN" THE ROLE SHE FIRST
PLAYED 40 YEARS AGO IS STILL
PLAYING AT BOX OFFICE RAKING IN
$100 MILLION ON ITS OPENING
WEEKEND.
NOT ALL WOMEN IN HORROR HAVE HAD
THESE SAME SURVIVAL SKILLS AS
CURTISES CHARACTER CHT THE GENRE
HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF STEREOTYPING
WOMEN AS SEX OBJECTS OR VICTIMS.
BUT AS DEANA SUMANAC-JOHNSON
EXPLAINS AS MORE WOMEN TAKE TO
THE
DIRECTORS CHAIR THAT'S CHANGING.
>> Reporter: IT'S HORROR TUESDAY
NIGHT AT RUE MORGUE MAGAZINE.
>> WHO DIRECTED SATAN'S
RHAPSODY.
>> THIS GROUP OF WOMEN LOVE THIS
SCARY MOVIE, ESPECIALLY ONE WITH
A
STRONG FEMALE LEAD.
>> THERE'S A MOVIE A LOT OF
PEOPLE
HATE, I LOVE IT, IT'S "ALIEN
VERSES
PREDATOR" SHE IS THE GIRL IN
THAT
MOVIE AND I LOVE HER BECAUSE SHE
IS
MY GIRL CRUSH.
>> I'M SAYING MINE NOW OTHERWISE
SOMEONE WILL TAKE IT.
IT'S RIPLY FROM "ALIEN".
>> THEY AREN'T ALONE.
ACCORDING TO ANALYST BOX OFFICE
PROSLIGHTLY MORE WOMEN THAN MEN
ACTUALLY WATCH HORROR.
>> I THINK WOMEN HAVE A VERY
INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP WITH FEAR
AND
SEEING IT DEPICTED ON SCREEN
COULD
BE VERY CATHARTIC AND
COMFORTING.
>> Reporter: BUT FOR ALL THE
WOMEN
WATCHING HORROR THERE HAVE BEEN
VERY FEW WOMEN MAKING IT, UNTIL
RECENTLY.
>> PEOPLE SEE PEOPLE LIKE ME.
>> CANADIAN TWINS JEN AND SYLVIA
SOSKA ARE AT THE FOREFRONT.
>> WE HAVE TO CHANGE THIS.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY
GETS
MURDERED.
>> NOW THEY ARE REMAKING "RABID"
DAVID CRONENBERG ABOUT A WOMAN
TURNED INTO A VAMPIRE BY AN
EXPERIMENTAL SURGERY.
THE STORY LINE IS THE SAME BUT
TOLD
FROM A DISTINCTLY FEMALE
PERSPECTIVE.
>> YOU KNOW WHEN YOU ARE WALKING
DOWN THE STREET AS A WOMAN
MINDING
YOUR BUSINESS AND SOME GUY
STARTS
FOLLOWING YOU SAYING THINGS TO
PICK
YOU UP AND WHEN YOU IGNORE HIM
BECAUSE HE IS BEING RUDE AND
VULGAR, HE WILL KILL, MURDER AND
RAPE YOU, ETC.
THAT PERSON IS IN THE MOVIE AND
THAT PERSON GETS WHAT'S COMING
TO
THEM AND IT'S SO ENJOYABLE.
>> HORROR FILMS MADE BY MEN TEND
TO
FEATURE FEMALE NUDITY.
BAB DUKE TACKLE WOMEN'S AM
BIVALENCE ABOUT MOTHERHOOD.
>> A LOT OF FEMALE RAGE.
ONE THING THAT HASN'T CHANGED,
THESE FILMS ARE STILL SCARY,
OFTEN
GORY AND DON'T ALWAYS PORTRAY
WOMEN
AS MORALLY PURE.
MARY HERRING, VETERAN CANADIAN
DIRECTOR OF "AMERICAN PSYCHO"
GAVE
THE SOSKA SISTERS NOTES.
>> I THINK IT'S THE LAST
FRONTIER
FOR WOMEN AND I THINK PEOPLE
WOULD
PREFER AS A WOMAN DIRECTOR YOU
DO
FILMS ABOUT WOMEN THAT ARE
EITHER
HEROIC OR VICTIMS, STRAIGHT
FORWARDLY SYMPATHETIC BUT I'VE
ALWAYS BEEN FASCINATED BY PEOPLE
WHO ARE MORE COMPLICATED AND
CULPABLE.
>> THEIR RIGHT TO FRIGHT AS THE
WOMEN CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR
EQUALITY IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA
AND
BEHIND THE SCENES.
DEANA SUMANAC-JOHNSON, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Andrew: UP NEXT ON "THE
NATIONAL", THE FIX FOR A MAJOR
SOURCE OF POLLUTION COULD
ACTUALLY
BE THE POLLUTION ITSELF.
YOU WILL SEE HOW CONCRETE IS
BEING
MADE ALMOST OUT OF THIN AIR.
FIRST STILL, IAN AND THE POP
PANEL.
>> Ian: "MAKING OF A MURDERER"
IS
BACK ON NETFLIX WITH A NEW
SEASON
>> "MAKING OF A MURDERER" IS
BACK, WHICH MEANS MANY OF US ARE
ABOUT TO TURN INTO CRIMINAL
JUSTICE
LAWYERS.
FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T BINGED
WATCHED THE SHOW IT'S A SLEW OF
HIGHLY ADDICTED CRIME SHOWS.
>> TRUE CRIME IS LIKE PORN IT
FLOWS
IN WHATEVER FORM, HIGH, LOW.
>> THEY ARE ADDICTIVE BUT THEY
ALSO GET PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT
THE
CRIMINAL SYSTEM.
>> I'M KATIE UNDERWOOD FREELANCE
WRITER.
>> I'M DONNOVAN BENNETT,
SPORTSNET HOST AND WRITER.
>> I'M STEPHEN MARCHE, FREELANCE
AUTHOR AND COLUMNIST.
>> IT'S A REALLY DANGEROUS PART
OF
THE WORLD RIGHT NOW THERE'S A
HUGE
NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CAN'T TELL
THE
DIFFERENCE.
>> AS GREAT AS IT IS TO GET
PEOPLE
ENGAGED IN THE FLAWS OF OUR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, WE DO
HAVE
TO TAKE THESE SHOWS WITH A GRAIN
OF
SALT.
>> SHOULDN'T OUR CRIMES BE TRIED
IN
IMPARTIAL INSTITUTIONS RATHER
THAN
PUBLIC OPINION?
>> Ian: IT TURNS OUT OUR ENTIRE
POP
PANEL HAS SEEN "MAKING OF A
MURDERER", KNOWS THE GENRE.
STEPHEN, LET'S BEGIN WITH YOU,
WHAT
DO YOU LIKE ABOUT THIS GENRE?
>> I LIKE THE HUMAN PORTRAIT AND
PORTRAIT OF THE TOWNS.
I LOVE THIS SHOW, I BINGE WATCH
ALL
OF THEM.
THE TRUE CRIME STUFF, WHO DONE
IT,
DID HE DO IT OR NOT DO IT, THAT
KEEPS YOU WATCHING.
BUT THEY ARE REALLY INTIMATE
PORTRAITS OF COMMUNITIES.
THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THEM.
>> Ian: THE THING IS, THE APPEAL
OF
THESE PROGRAM IS UNQUESTIONABLE.
I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS THIS
A
GOOD THING OR A BAD THING?
THAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE SO
OBSESSED
BY THESE CRIME STORIS?
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S
NECESSARILY A
BAD THING, HAVING THE PUBLIC
EXPOSED TO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM
CAN
ILLUMINATE WHAT IT DOES AND MAKE
PEOPLE MORE AWARE.
SEEING THE PERVERSIONS OF
JUSTICE
THAT I SAW AS A LEGAL EXPERT
BECAUSE I'VE WATCHED IT, I MEAN,
I
THINK I WOULD BE CONCERNED AS A
MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WATCHING
IT,
BUT I ALSO THINK IT MAKES A LOT
OF
SENSE THAT PEOPLE BE INTERESTED
IN
IT.
>> Ian: YOU HAVE A SLIGHTLY
DIFFERENT VIEW ABOUT ALL THE
ATTENTION AND WHETHER THAT IS A
GOOD OR BAD THING.
>> IT'S NOT GOOD FOR MY INTERNET
CONSUMPTION, IT BUILDS IT UP A
BIT
HIGH.
I LOVE IT.
I ACTUALLY AM GUILTY HOW MUCH I
LOVE IT.
IT IS A BIT OF RUBBERNECKING FOR
ME.
BUT I DO WONDER THOUGH, WHEN YOU
TALK ABOUT SEEING THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM, HOW MUCH ARE WE
SEEING?
IT'S HIGHLIGHTS.
IT ISN'T REAL DEPICTION.
WE AREN'T GETTING THE DETAIL
BECAUSE IT'S ENTERTAINMENT.
THERE ARE EDITORIAL CHOICES THAT
NEED TO BE MADE BUT I THINK WE
ALL
THINK WE ARE VILLAGE LAWYERS AND
WE
KNOW THESE CASES BASED ON
BINGING
AFTER ONE OR TWO NIGHTS.
>> I'M LOSING MY PATIENCE WITH
ALL
SHOW THAT'S CREATE THIS
ENTERTAINMENT INFORMATION
CONFUSION, THIS DISTORTION IS
UNHEALTHY.
THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
WHO
WATCH A TELEVISION SHOW AND FEEL
PERFECTLY CONFIDENT THEY KNOW
WHAT
HAPPENED.
THAT'S HOW POOR THEIR
CONSUMPTION
HABITS ARE OF MEDIA.
>> BUT WHO IS THE ONUS ON?
I DON'T THINK NETFLIX THINKS
THEY
ARE WASHINGTON POST OR "NEW YORK
TIMES" OR CBC.
I THINK THE ONUS IS ON US TO ASK
MORE QUESTIONS.
WE SHOULD DO IT WITH OUR NEWS
NEVER
MIND OUR ENTERTAINMENT.
>> IDEALLY.
>> Ian: I'VE HEARD FROM TOO MANY
LAWYERS IN CANADA AND JUDGES WHO
I'VE SPOKEN TO WHO ARE NEGATIVE
ABOUT EVEN NEWS COVERAGE IN THE
COURTS BECAUSE THEY SAY IT'S SO
IMPERFECT, YOU ONLY COVER
CERTAIN
KINDS OF CASES.
MY VIEW IS SOME GOOD COVERAGE IS
BETTER THAN NONE AND WHEN YOU
HAVE
SOME GOOD COVERAGE YOU ARE
OPENING
THE DOOR TO COVERAGE THAT'S NOT
SO
GOOD.
TO YOUR POINT WE HAVE TO HOPE
THE
PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT "MAKING
OF
A MURDERER" IS NOT REALITY.
BUT MAYBE, STEPHEN, IT'S A
VERSION
OF REALITY.
AND MAYBE IT'S CLOSER TO REALITY
THAN LET'S SAY "LAW AND ORDER".
>> YOU ARE A JOURNALIST, RIGHT?
IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN YOU COME AT
IT
FROM THE VIEW OF ENTERTAINMENT.
ESSENTIALLY IF YOU ARE USING
ENTERTAINMENT TO PROVIDE A LENS
ON
REALITY, YOU ARE PROVIDING
REALITY
TELEVISION.
WE KNOW WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES
ARE
WHEN REALITY TELEVISION SWALLOWS
THE WHOLE WORLD BECAUSE WE ARE
LIVING IN IT, THAT'S WHAT
WASHINGTON IS RIGHT NOW.
THAT JUST SEEMS SUPER DANGEROUS
EVEN WHEN THE MOTIVES ARE GOOD.
EVEN WHEN THE MOTIVES ARE
UNQUESTIONABLY GOOD.
>> Ian: I SHOULD POINT OUT ONE
OF
THE INTERESTING THINGS WITH
"MAKING
OF A MURDERER", THE SECOND
SEASON
HAS DROPPED AND THEY ARE MAKING
REFERENCES IN THE SECOND SEASON
TO
ALL THE ATTENTION THEY GOT IN
THE
FIRST SEASON BY VARIOUS
JOURNALISTS, TAKE A LOOK.
>> "MAKING OF A MURDERER"
>> "MAKING OF A MURDERER"
>> "MAKING OF A MURDERER"
>> "MAKING OF A MURDERER"
>> "MAKING OF A MURDERER"
>> Ian: MAYBE THERE'S A LITTLE
CONFLICT OF INTEREST HERE.
DONNOVAN IS IN THE WORLD OF
SPORTS
SO LET'S WATCH THAT AGAIN WITH A
LITTLE BIT OF SLOW MOTION.
>> "MAKING OF A MURDERER"
>> "MAKING OF A MURDERER"
>> "MAKING OF A MURDERER"
[Laughter]
>> Ian: I DID NOT KNOW I WAS
GOING
TO BE IN IT.
I WAS SITTING THERE SATURDAY IN
MY
CONDO AND TWEETING TO FRIENDS
I'M
ON "MAKING OF A MURDERER"
PUTTING THAT ASIDE THERE'S
ALMOST A
NEW GENRE OF THESE MULTI-EPISODE
PODCASTS OR CRIME SHOWS.
WHICH IS YOUR FAVOURITE?
>> I REALLY ENJOYED "MAKING OF A
MURDERER"
I WOULD RECOMMEND PEOPLE NOT
BINGE
WATCH THE WHOLE THING, ALL 8-10.
I DID ON A SUNDAY, IT WAS
PROBABLY
THE MOST DEPRESSING SUNDAY OF MY
ENTIRE LIFE.
I WOULD RECOMMEND IT.
I ALSO FOLLOW "SERIAL" WHICH IS
THE
THING THAT KICKED OFF THE TRUE
CRIME PODCASTS.
I THINK SARAH DID A GREAT JOB OR
AS
GOOD OF A JOB SHE COULD HAVE
GIVEN
IT WAS ONE PERSON TELLING THE
STORY.
>> Ian: IN BOTH CASES, IT DID
MOTIVATE PEOPLE, NOT JUST TO GET
INTERESTED BUT DEMAND MORE
ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND SOMETIMES WENT OVER THE LINE
AS
WE SAW IN THE SECOND SEASON OF
"MAKING OF A MURDERER", THE ONE
I'M
IN, THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE
WERE DEATH THREATS AGAINST THE
PROSECUTORS I THINK DID A LOUSY
JOB
BASED ON WHAT I SAW, BUT
OBVIOUSLY
DIDN'T JUSTIFY DEATH THREATS.
BUT BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE
NEXT
TOPIC, WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND?
>> THE JINX.
ON HBO.
BUT "MAKING OF A MURDERER".
"SERIAL" HOW COULD YOU NOT
RECOMMEND "SERIAL".
>> Ian: WHICH IS TRUE OF A LOT
OF
PEOPLE THEY LOVED THE FIRST ONE
DIDN'T EVEN WATCH THE SECOND
ONE.
>> THE KEEPERS.
STAIRCASE, MOMMY AND DADDY
DEAREST.
>> Ian: YOU WATCH A LOT OF TV.
[Laughter]
>> I DO.
I MAY NEED AN INTERVENTION.
>> Ian: LET'S CHANGE TOPICS NOW.
WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A
RECORD
IN POP MUSIC THAT'S BEEN HELD
SINCE
1964 BY ONE OF THE MOST
INNOVATIVE
AND ARGUABLY CREATIVE GROUPS OF
ALL
TIME, THE BEATLES.
>> WHO?
>> Ian: BEAT BY DRAKE BECAUSE OF
THIS SONG.
[*]
>> Ian: SO WITH THAT SONG DRAKE
HAS
THE MOST TOP TEN SINGLES ON
BILLBOARDS HOT 100 IN A SINGLE
YEAR, THE MOST SINCE THE BEATLES
IN
1964.
WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE LIST UP
OF
THE HITS BY BEATLES AND DRAKE TO
GIVE PEOPLE A SENSE OF HOW
GENERATIONS HAVE CHANGED.
THIS IS, YOU THINK ABOUT ELTON
JOHN, PRINCE, MICHAEL JACKSON,
JUSTIN BIEBER, MADONNA, NONE OF
THOSE PEOPLE CAME CLOSE TO THIS
BEATLES RECORD, A GUY FROM THIS
TOWN, FROM TORONTO.
WHAT'S THE APPEAL OF DRAKE?
>> I THINK DRAKE HAS ALWAYS HAD
AN
EYE TO MASS APPEAL AND AS
RELATABLE
AS POSSIBLE.
EVEN FROM HIS EARLIEST VIDEOS,
SHOT
ONE IN THE SHOPPERS DRUG MART,
TALKED ABOUT LOVING HIS MOM
WEARING
GERIATRIC SWEATERS.
BUT EVEN LOOKING TOWARD MORE
RECENT
VIDEOS, HOTLINE BLING, THERE'S A
HUGE DANCE CRAZE AROUND "IN MY
FEELINGS".
I THINK HE HAS KNOWN HOW TO PLAY
BOTH SIDES OF THE MARKET, AND
BEEN
COGNIZANT OF THAT SINCE HE HAS
BEEN
OUT.
>> HE IS A MEME ARTIST HE MAKES
HUGE SOCIAL MEDIA EVENTS THAT
TRANSCEND MUSIC AND LIFT HIS
MUSIC
TO THIS INCREDIBLE PLACE.
THERE WAS ONE POINT HE HAD 24
SONGS
ON THE BILLBOARD 100.
THAT MEANS HE SAY QUARTER OF
POPULAR MUSIC FOR A MOMENT, IT'S
TOTALLY ABSURD.
BUT IT'S ALSO A DIFFERENCE IN
THE
WAY THESE THINGS ARE TRACKED.
>> Ian: STREAMING NOW.
>> YEAH.
IT'S -- DON'T GET ME WRONG,
IT'S
INCREDIBLY IMPRESSIVE
NEVERTHELESS.
BUT IT'S LIKE A PIECE GOING
VIRAL
ON FACEBOOK AND EVERYONE GOING
OUT
AND BUYING A NOVEL.
>> Ian: THAT'S A GREAT ANALOGY.
DONNOVAN?
>> I THINK HE IS A CULTURAL
CURATOR.
A TASTE MAKER.
TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE SOCIAL
MEDIA WHEN AN ALBUM COMES OUT
YOU
KNOW A BUNCH OF CAPTIONS ON
INSTAGRAM WILL BE HIS LYRICS BUT
MORE THAN THAT TO USE A SPORTS
TERM
HE HAS FIGURED OUT THE ANALYTICS
WHEN 1500 STREAMS EQUAL AN ALBUM
SALE, I WANT TO GET ON AS MANY
PLACES AS POSSIBLE.
HIS MUSIC INCORPORATES HIP HOP,
R
AND B, GRIME, DANCE HALL, AFRO
POP, LATIN
>> Ian: I FEEL I LEARNED MORE
ABOUT
HIS APPEAL FROM THE THREE OF YOU
THAN BEFORE WE DID THIS PANEL.
20 SECONDS EACH TO GIVE ME YOUR
TIP
SOMETHING PEOPLE WATCHING SHOULD
BE
THINKING OF CONSUMING.
>> WE HEARD CONSUMING TOO MUCH
TELEVISION.
SHOW CALLED "FOLLOW THIS" ON
NETFLIX, ABOUT THE INTERNET
SPECIFICALLY AND THE CRAZE ON
THE
INTERNET.
IT'S A REALLY GOOD 12-18 MINUTE
WATCH.
>> NEW "HALLOWEEN" MOVIE,
TOTALLY
AMAZING.
GRANDMA REVENGE FANTASY.
THERE'S NOT NEARLY ENOUGH OF IT.
GRANDMA REVENGE FANTASY.
IT'S BRILLIANT.
>> I WOULD SAY THE SHOW IS
SPONSORED BY NETFLIX BUT WE ARE
OUR
OWN NETWORK.
"SALT FAT ACID HEAT".
FOODIE TRAVELOG. IT'S NICE SHOT
OF CHEESES SO WHAT'S
NOT TO LIKE.
>> Ian: OTHER THAN EPISODE ONE
AND
TWO OF "MAKING OF A MURDERER",
MY
WIFE, EVERY TIME I TALK TO HER
ON
THE PHONE SHE IS IN VANCOUVER,
I'M
IN TORONTO, THE ROOKIE WITH
NATHAN
FILION, SHE LOVES THAT SHOW, SHE
SAID IT'S WORTH WATCHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APPEAL IS.
>> ROOKIE BLUE?
>> Ian: MUCH DIFFERENT.
I DEFER TO HER.
IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
>> NOT TO BE CBC P.R. BUT
SHOULDN'T
YOU BE PUMPING YOUR OWN POD
SERIES?
>> Ian: IT'S A PODCAST COMING UP
IN NOVEMBER WE HAVE TIME BUT
THANK
YOU, DONNOVAN.
>> Andrew: ALWAYS THINKING.
UP NEXT ON "THE NATIONAL."
THE CEMENT INDUSTRY IS A BIG
CARBON
DIOXIDE EMITTING INDUSTRY BUT
THE
USING THE POLLUTION ITSELF IS
TRYING
>> Adrienne: TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL", A FRENCH COURT OF
APPEAL
HAS AGAIN DELAYED A RULING IN
THE
CASE OF CANADIAN HASSAN DIAB, HE
WAS SUPPOSED TO LEARN WHETHER
THE
DECISION TO RELEASE HIM FROM
PRISON
LAST JANUARY WOULD BE UPHELD.
INSTEAD THE COURT WANTS TO TAKE
ANOTHER LOOK AT HANDWRITING
EVIDENCE THAT PROSECUTORS CLAIM
LINK DIAB TO THE 1980 BOMBING OF
A
PARIS SYNAGOGUE.
THIS EVIDENCE HAS PREVIOUSLY
BEEN
DISCREDITED.
HE HASN'T FORMALLY BEEN CHARGED
AND
HE HAS ALWAYS MAINTAINED HIS
INNOCENCE.
>> I WANT TO BEGIN WITH TWO 0
WORDS, I'M SORRY.
>> Adrienne: THIS WEEK'S ON-AIR
APOLOGY FROM MEGAN KELLY WASN'T
ENOUGH TO SAVE HER SHOW.
THEY CANCELLED HER SHOW.
SHE DEFENDED THE USE OF BLACK
FACE
DURING A SEGMENT ABOUT HALLOWEEN
COSTUMES.
AND BRAZIL'S MEDIA DUBBED THIS
MAN
AS TRUMP OF THE TROPICS.
HE IS A FORMER ARMY CAPTAIN WHO
HAS
WON MAJOR SUPPORT BY PROMISING
TO
JAIL CORRUPT LAW MAKERS AND MAKE
IT
EASIER FOR POLICE TO SHOOT DRUG
TRAFFICKERS BUT HIS MISOGYNIST
AND
RACIST COMMENTS ALSO ANGERED
MANY.
VOTERS GO TO THE POLLS ON
SUNDAY.
>> Andrew: FEW THINGS HAVE
TRANSFORMED HUMAN CIVILIZATION
LIKE
CONCRETE.
BY FAR THE MOST ABUNDANT MAN
MADE
MATERIAL ON THE PLANET.
IT'S STRONG, DURABLE, FIRE
RESISTANT AND DOESN'T REQUIRE A
LOT
OF MAINTENANCE.
BUT THERE'S A COST.
STAGGERING AMOUNTS OF CARBON
DIOXIDE.
A CANADIAN COMPANY HAS DEVISED A
FIX TO MAKE CONCRETE ALMOST OUT
OF
THIN AIR, IN A WAY.
IMAGINE THAT SAME GAS, CARBON
DIOXIDE BEING USED TO MAKE
STRONG
AND SAFE CONCRETE BLOCKS.
HERE IS A CLOSER LOOK.
THE MODERN WORLD IS LITERALLY
BUILT
OUT OF CONCRETE.
IT'S EVERYWHERE.
>> CONCRETE IS ONE OF THE MOST
WIDELY USED BUILDING MATERIALS
IN
THE WORLD.
>> YOU CAN LOOK AT A BUILDING,
YOU
CAN LOOK AT A CURB, A BRIDGE,
YOU
CAN LOOK AT SCULPTURES, IT'S
JUST
ENDLESS.
EVERYTHING USES CONCRETE.
>> Andrew: BUT THE CONCRETE
INDUSTRY HAS A PROBLEM.
MAKING IT POLLUTES A LOT.
7% OF THE WORLD'S Co2 EMISSIONS
LINK TO A SINGLE INGREDIENT IN
CONCRETE.
>> IF WE COULD REDUCE THAT BY
ANY
AMOUNT IT WOULD BE A SUCCESS.
>> IF YOU COULD GET THAT NUMBER
DOWN IT'S A GAME CHANGER?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> Andrew: SO HERE IS HOW YOU
MAKE
CONCRETE, YOU NEED THREE THINGS,
WATER, RANDOM BITS LIKE SAND AND
GRAVEL AND CEMENT, WHICH IS THE
GLUE THAT BINDS IT ALL TOGETHER
BUT
MAKING A KILOGRAM OF CEMENT
RELEASES ABOUT A HALF KILOGRAM
OF
CARBON DIOXIDE INTO THE
ATMOSPHERE.
THE TEAM AT A COMPANY CALLED
CARBONCURE HAS DEVISED A CLEVER
WAY
OF TURNING Co2 INTO SOMETHING
USEFUL.
>> JOSH, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN THIS
TANK?
>> CARBON DIOXIDE.
>> Andrew: RIGHT NOW THEY ARE
SHIPPING IT DIRECT FROM
INDUSTRIAL
POLLUTIONERS, IT'S BOTTLED UP
AND
READY FOR THE MIXER.
>> THE Co2 FROM THAT TANK
OUTSIDE
PUMPS IN HERE?
>> YEAH, FROM A PIPE DIRECTLY
INTO
THE MIXER, MIXES WITH THE FRESH
CONCRETE, REACTS RIGHT AWAY.
>> Andrew: YOU HEARD RIGHT.
THEY ARE MIXING Co2 BACK IN THE
CONCRETE, SEQUESTERING IT
FOREVER.
>> IT STARTS REACTING WITH THE
CEMENT IMMEDIATELY AND IS
PERMANENTLY ENCAPSULATED IN THE
CONCRETE.
>> SO EVEN IF THE CONCRETE
BREAKS,
SAY A BUILDING IS DEMOLISHED,
THE
Co2 NEVER ESCAPES BECAUSE IT
HARDENS, IT BECOMES A SOLID AND
EVEN ENOUGH TO TAKE THE PLACE OF
SOME OF THAT EXPENSIVE POLLUTING
CEMENT AND SAVING CEMENT SAVES
MONEY AND REDUCES CARBON
DIOXIDE.
>> ARE YOU GETTING THE SAME
QUALITY
CONCRETE ONLY GREENER.
>> Andrew: IT IS ON A LARGER
SCALE
THIS IDEA STARTS TO SHOW REAL
PROMISE.
BECAUSE TRAPPING CONCRETE BLOCK
BY
BLOCK IS ONE THING.
BUT BY THE HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS
OF
BLOCKS.
THIS PLANT CAN PRODUCE TENS OF
THOUSANDS IN A SINGLE DAY.
ITS ENTIRE PRODUCT LINE IS
INJECTED
WITH CARBON DIOXIDE AND THERE
ARE
100 PLANTS LIKE THIS ONE ACROSS
CANADA AND THE U.S. USING THE
VERY
SAME TECHNOLOGY.
BUT EVEN THAT IS JUST A DROP IN
THE
BUCKET.
>> Andrew: IF THERE ARE SKEPTICS
IN
THE CONCRETE INDUSTRY IT'S
BECAUSE
HOW SENSITIVE THE PROCESS IS.
THESE CONCRETE BLOCKS ARE FRESH
OUT
OF THE MOULD.
THE MIXTURE HAS TO BE JUST
RIGHT.
THEY ARE LASER MEASURED TO MAKE
SURE THEY ARE RIGHT TO SPEC AND
IF
ANYTHING IS OFF, THESE BLOCKS
COME
RIGHT OFF AND THEY ARE JUNK.
>> THIS IS ACTUALLY THE AREA
WHERE
WE DRILLED CORES OUT TO SEND TO
THE
LAB FOR TESTING.
>> LUKE JOHNSON WORKS FOR TRIDEL
A
MAJOR DEVELOPER BASED IN
TORONTO.
>> I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS,
WHAT
IT DOES, DOES IT AFFECT MY TIME
LINE, MY BUDGET AND ONE OF OUR
CORE
VALUES DOES IT AFFECT OUR
QUALITY.
>> Andrew: ON THIS DOWNTOWN
SITE,
14 STORIES WILL RIDE ON THE
STRENGTH OF HIS CONCRETE.
THE WALLS, CONVENTIONAL RUN OF
THE
MILL STUFF, BUT THE BIG TEST,
THE
FLOOR UNDER OUR FEET.
>> HOW DID IT DO?
>> IT PERFORMED WELL.
THE ORDER WENT WELL.
>> STRUCTURALLY?
>> EVERYTHING, IT MET THE
SPECIFIED
CRITERIA.
>> NOT FAR AWAY A PROJECT WITH
CARBONCURE IN MIND FROM THE
START.
THIS WILL BE A HOSPITAL IN
VAUGHN,
ONTARIO.
>> IT'S USING IN EXCESS OF
500,000
BLOCKS.
>> IT'S AN EXAMPLE HOW A NOD TO
THE
ENVIRONMENT CAN PAY OFF BIG.
THE PROMISE OF A GREEN BUILDING
WAS
KEY TO GETTING THIS PROJECT OFF
THE
GROUND.
>> HOW MUCH CARBON DIOXIDE ARE
YOU
ABLE TO TRAP?
>> SO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS
JUST UNDER 14,000 POUNDS OF Co2
ESSENTIALLY IS CAPTURED IN
THERE.
TO PUT THAT INTO MORE RELATABLE
TERMS, THE EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT
146
TREE SEEDLINGS GROWN OVER TEN
YEARS.
>> TRAPPED IN THAT BUILDING?
ONCE ITS DONE?
>> RIGHT.
>> Andrew: ACROSS ALL ITS
PROJECTS
CARBONCURE ESTIMATES IT'S KEPT
MILLIONS OF KILOGRAMS OF Co2
FROM
ESCAPING IN THE ATMOSPHERE.
THE CHALLENGE NOW IS GETTING THE
WORD OUT AND CONVINCING COMPANY
IT'S COULD PAY TO GO GREEN,
DOING
THAT COULD GO A LONG WAY TURNING
GREENHOUSE GAS INTO SIMPLE
BUILDING.
>> Adrienne: IT'S LIKE THE
DEFINITION OF A FIX.
I IMAGINE IT MEANS COMPANIES
WILL
BE ABLE TO PULL BACK ON HOW MUCH
CEMENT THEY END UP USING.
IS IT YOUR SENSE THEY ARE
ALREADY
PULLING BACK?
>> Andrew: THAT'S A REALLY GOOD
QUESTION, I HAD THE SAME ONE.
THE SHORT ANSWER, ARE THEY USING
LESS CEMENT?
NO, NOT YET.
BOTH COMPANIES YOU JUST SAW ARE
STILL UNSURE.
THEY WANT TO SEE HOW THIS STUFF
PERFORMS OVER A REALLY LONG
PERIOD
OF TIME.
LIKE YEARS, BEFORE THEY START
REDUCING CEMENT BIT BY BIT.
IT'S FAIR, CONSIDERING YOU DON'T
WANT TO ROLL THE DICE ON A 20
STORY
BUILDING.
THE CONCRETE THEY ARE USING NOW
IS
STRONGER BECAUSE IT'S BEEN
REINFORCED WITH CARBON DIOXIDE
BUT
NOWHERE NEAR AS GREEN AS IT
COULD
BE, NOT YET.
>> Adrienne: ALL RIGHT.
UNTAPPED POTENTIAL.
OUR MOMENT UP NEXT.
>> Andrew: IT'S AN HONOUR
USUALLY
RESERVED FOR U.S. PRESIDENTS.
BEING LAID TO REST IN
WASHINGTON'S
NATIONAL CATHEDRAL BUT TODAY IT
WAS
MATTHEW SHEPARD'S TERM 20 YEARS
AFTER HE WAS MURDERED FOR BEING
GAY.
HE WAS ROBBED, BEATEN AND TIED
TO A
FENCE IN WYOMING.
HIS BRUTAL KILLING BECAME A
RALLYING CRY FOR LGBTQ RIGHTS
AND
FOR YEARS HIS PARENTS KEPT HIS
ASHES IN THEIR HOME UNTIL NOW,
AND
THAT IS "OUR MOMENT".
>> SO IMPORTANT WE NOW HAVE A
HOME
FOR MATT.
A HOME THAT OTHERS CAN VISIT.
A HOME THAT IS SAFE FROM HATERS.
A HOME THAT HE LOVED DEARLY.
MATT WAS BLIND.
JUST LIKE THIS BEAUTIFUL HOUSE
OF
WORSHIP.
HE DIDN'T SEE SKIN COLOUR.
HE DID NOT SEE RELIGION.
HE DIDN'T SEE SEXUAL
ORIENTATION.
ALL HE SAW WAS A CHANCE TO HAVE
ANOTHER FRIEND.
>> I HAVE THREE THINGS I WANT TO
SAY TO MATT.
GENTLY REST IN THIS PLACE.
YOU ARE SAFE NOW.
OH YEAH, AND MATT, WELCOME HOME.
AMEN.
>> Adrienne: YOU KNOW, IT'S
AMAZING.
THIS IS THE FUNERAL MATTHEW
SHEPARD
DIDN'T GET TO HAVE 20 YEARS AGO.
THERE WERE SO MANY HOMOPHOBIC
PROTESTORS AT THE FUNERAL, HIS
DAD
HAD TO WEAR A BULLET PROOF VEST.
I HEARD THAT THE FIRST POLICE
OFFICER ON THE SCENE FOUND A
DEAR
LYING BESIDE MATTHEW'S BODY AND
WHEN SHE APPROACHED THE DEAR
LOCKED
EYES WITH HER BEFORE IT WALKED
AWAY
AND IT'S HAUNTED HER EVER SINCE.
>> Andrew: THIS THEME OF BEING
HOME
KEPT COMING UP.
AND THAT PLACE, THE WASHINGTON
NATIONAL CATHEDRAL IS VERY MUCH
THOUGHT OF AS THE SPIRITUAL HOME
OF
THE NATION.
SO HOPEFULLY TODAY PROVIDED SOME
CLOSURE TO A NATION THAT WENT
NUMB
ALL THOSE YEARS AGO.
THAT IS "THE NATIONAL" FOR THIS
OCTOBER 26th.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
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