>> Rosemary: ON THIS MONDAY
NIGHT, THE FINAL PITCH.
>> THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY IS
ON THE BALLOT.
>> Rosemary: AMERICANS GO G. TO
THE POLLS TOMORROW.
WHAT IS AT STAKE FOR THE
PRESIDENT, HIS COUNTRY, AND FOR
CANADA.
>> OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING IS GOING
ON HERE.
>> WE ARE ON THE GROUND IN KEY
BATTLEGROUND STATES.
>>> WE SIT DOWN WITH AMERICANS
TO EXPLORE WHAT DIVIDES THEM.
>> THIS IS OUR HOME.
>> THERE IS SO MUCH HATE.
>> AND THEIR FEARS FOR WHAT
COMES NEXT.
>> HOPEFULLY WE'RE NOT HEADED
TOWARDS ANOTHER CIVIL WAR.
>> WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO KEEL THE
DIVISION?
>> >> STUDENT: s THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
>> CBC NEWS TAKES HIDDEN CAMERAS
INSIDE CANADA'S BANKS.
WHAT THEY'RE TELLING YOU ABOUT
BALANCE PROTECTION INSURANCE.
>> WHY ARE THE BANKS SELLING IT.
>> IT'S PURE PROFIT.
>> IT'S THE LATEST IN A
"MARKETPLACE" INVESTIGATION.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
>>> WE'RE IN NASHVILLE,
TENNESSEE TONIGHT, AND THAT IS
THE STATE CAPITAL.
ACROSS THESE UNITED STATES, THEY
ARE RUNNING A LAST LAP.
MIDTERM VOTING BEGINS HOURS FROM
NOW, AND KEY RACES ARE SO TIGHT,
THERE ARE SO MANY SEATS IN PLAY,
THE PARTIES NEED TO COUL COVEET EVERY
LAST VOTE.
>> President Donald Trump: GET
YOUR FRIENDS, GET YOUR
NEIGHBORS, GET YOUR COWORKERS
AND GO OUT AND VOTE FOR A
REPUBLICAN HOUSE AND A
REPUBLICAN SENATE.
>> THAT WAS DONALD TRUMP THIS
EVENING RALLYING THE FAITHFUL IN
INDIANA, HIS SECOND VISIT SINCE
FRIDAY.
JOE DONNELLY IS VULNERABLE AND
THE GOP SMELLS BLOOD.
>> President Donald Trump: VOTE
REPUBLICAN.
>> Reporter: HE TOUCHED DOWN IN
OHIO TODAY.
ANOTHER BATTLEGROUND THAT COULD
KILL THE NATIONAL STANDINGS AND
WE'VE GOT THAT ONE COVERED.
LATER, ROSIE WILL ASK HOW THE
PARTIES CLINCHED THEIR SUPPORT.
SHE'LL FILL YOU IN ON A HIGH
STAKES FOR CANADA IN THIS
HISTORIC VOTE.
>> ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WE'RE
SEEING A RECORD NUMBER OF WOMEN
WHO ARE RUNNING, AND LORD KNOWS
WE NEED MORE WOMEN IN CHARGE.
>> Reporter: BARACK OBAMA HOARSE
FROM HIS OWN TOUR TO BOOST
DEMOCRATIC FORTUNES TOUCHED ON
THE GROUNDSWELL OF WOMEN
CANDIDATES.
PAUL HUNTER IS IN FLORIDA.
WE'LL TELL YOU WHY THE FLORIDA
BALLOT IS IMPORTANT FROM TOP TO
BOTTOM.
TENNESSEE IS SURROUNDED BY RED
STATES, BUT TENNESSEE ISN'T SO
EASILY DEFINED.
TRUMP WON IT BY 26 POINTS IN
2016, BUT A REPUBLICAN SENATOR'S
RETIREMENT HAS PUT A SEAT UP FOR
GRABS IN WHAT'S BECOME A REALLY
CLOSE CONTEST.
BOTH PARTIES WANTED SO DEARLY.
THIS HAS BECOME THE MOST
EXPENSIVE RACE IN STATE HISTORY.
SO LET'S SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS
LIKE.
>> I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE RALLY.
LET'S KEEP FIGHTING TO MAKE
AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
>> THE RACE TO THE BOTTOM IS ONE
TENNESSEE WINS.
WITH ONE OF THE POOREST TURNOUT
RECORDS IN ALL OF UNITED STATES.
THEN CAME 2018.
TWO VISITS IN A MATTER OF WEEKS
FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP STIRRED THE
CONSERVATIVE SOULS.
THEY ARE IN A GOOD MOOD.
>> WE'VE GOT A LOT OF JOB GROWTH
IN TENNESSEE.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGE.
I MYSELF HAVE ALREADY HAD TWO
PAY RAISES WITH MY JOB.
>> President Donald Trump: YOU
NEED TO VOTE FOR MARSHA
BLACKBURN.
>> Reporter: THIS IS THE HIGH
OCTANE CANDIDATE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU
DID TO SEND PRESIDENT DONALD
TRUMP AND MIKE PENCE --
>> Reporter: A WOMAN BORROWING
THE FURY OF PRESIDENT TO
CAMPAIGN IN HIS IMAGE.
>> MARSHA BLACKBURN --
>> Reporter: TRUMP WON THE STATE
OVERWHELMINGLY IN 2016, THIS
SHOULD BE EASY FOR BLACKBURN,
BUT SIGN FOR SIGN, POLL FOR POLL
HAS HER TIED WITH THE
UNLIKELIEST STAR A BONE ENTER.
FORMER GOVERNOR PHIL BREDESEN.
>> YOU HAVE A CLEAR CHOICE.
IF YOU LIKE WASHINGTON THE WAY
IT IS, PARTISAN COMPLAINING, I'M
NOT YOUR GUY.
>> Reporter: HE PACKS ARENAS
AND00 HALLS TALKING CIVILITY.
>> I'M NOT RUNNING AGAINST THE
PRESIDENT.
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT'S GOOD
FOR TENNESSEE, I NEED TO SUPPORT
IT.
IF IT'S BAD, I OPPOSE HIM.
>> Reporter: HE MENTIONS THE
PARTY HE'S RUNNING FOR AS IF
IT'S A DANGEROUS WORD.
>> YOU DON'T OFTEN USE THE WORD
DEMOCRAT TO DESCRIBE YOURSELF.
WHY IS THAT?
>> LOOK, I BELONG TO THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
IT'S AN ORGANIZATION I BELONG
TO.
IT'S NOT A RELIGION.
I HAVE A WORLD VIEW OF THINGS.
IT OVERLAPS MORE WITH THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY, BUT MY VIEW
COMES FROM ME, NOT COT CANNONS
OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
>> Reporter: MARK McKINNON
FOLLOWING AND CAN'T LOOK AWAY
FROM TENNESSEE.
>> YOUNGER VOTERS ARE TURNING
OUT AT A HIGHER NUMBER BY A
FACTOR OF 700%, WHICH IS JUST
ASTONISHING.
IT'S LARGE THROUGHOUT THE
COUNTRY, BUT THE CLOSEST NUMBER
TO THAT IS 400% IN SOME OTHER
STATES.
THESE ARE NUMBERS THAT ARE JUST
HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT OBVIOUSLY
SOMETHING IS GOING ON HERE.
>> Reporter: DOES THAT SEND A
SIGNAL TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY,
THOUGH, THAT MAYBE, IF HE PULLS
THIS OFF, THAT MAY BE THE FUTURE
IS A COMPROMISE CANDIDATE.
>> YEAH.
I THINK THEY DO.
DEMOCRATS IN STATES LIKE
TENNESSEE ARE GOING TO RECOGNIZE
THAT IN ORDER TO GET ELECTED,
YOU'VE GOT TO COMPROMISE.
>> Reporter: ECONOMICALLY,
TENNESSEE IS DOING WELL, USUALLY
A RULING PARTY GETS REWARDED FOR
THAT.
USUALLY, THE MAJORITY OWNER OF
THE NATIONAL PREDATORS WOULD BE
STANDING BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
AS HE HAS FOR MOST OF HIS LIFE.
BUT HE'S AN INFLUENTIAL CONVERT
NOW FUNDRAISING FOR BREDESEN,
EVEN IT -- EVEN IF IT STARTLES
FROM OF HIS FRIENDS.
>> YOU DON'T SEE THE MAJORITY OF
THE MIDDLE IN THIS COUNTRY WHO
HAVE ALWAYS BEEN.
THEY HAVE BEEN DISENFRANCHISED
BY ALL THE PARTIES.
WE HAVE TO GET BACK TO THAT.
>> Reporter: THIS IS TENNESSEE'S
POLITICAL SCIENCE TESTED.
DOES THE POLL OF POLARIZATION
GET STRONGER, OR IS THIS THE
MOMENT OF THE MIDDLE GROUND?
WE REACHED OUT TO MARSHA
BLACKBURN AND HER CAMPAIGN AND
THEY DIDN'T RESPOND TO US.
SHE HAS BEEN CROSSING THE STATE
TODAY IN A LAST MINUTE PUSH.
SHE'S COUNTING ON THE STRENGTH
OF THE PRESIDENT TO BRING HER TO
VICTORY AS THE FIRST FEMALE
SENATOR OF TENNESSEE.
IT WILL BE MADE EITHER WAY HERE
TONIGHT.
THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS MADE
ITS SHARE OF HISTORY IN PAST
ELECTIONS.
THESE MIDTERMS PROMISE TO BE NO
SEMS.
>> ARE YOU READY TO WIN?
ALL RIGHT.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE ARE
JUST -- WHAT DO THEY SAY -- A
DAY AWAY.
>> Reporter: VOTERS CAN ELECT
THE STATE'S FIRST
AFRICAN-AMERICAN GOVERNOR.
LET'S GO TO PAUL HUNTER IN
TALLAHASSEE.
CAN YOU SET THE SCENE.
>> Reporter: WELCOME TO THE LAND
OF HANGING CHADS WHERE IT SEEMS
EVERY ELECTION IS A SQUEAKER AND
THAT'S WHAT THEY EXPECT
TOMORROW.
TWO TO LOOK OUT FOR, ONE IS THE
CONTEST FOR SENATE SEAT HELD BY
DEMOCRATS.
HE'S BEING CHALLENGED BY RICK
SCOTT, THE GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA.
IT IS NECK AND NECK, TOO CLOSE
TO CALL.
THE RACE TO REPLACE RICK SCOTT
FOR GOVERNOR.
GILLIS IS A RISING STAR.
NECK AND NECK, TOO CLOSE TO
CALL.
IT'S HOW THEY DO THEM HERE IN
FLORIDA.
>> Reporter: WHAT'S THAT ONE
TELLING DETAIL YOU'RE GOING TO
BE LOOKING FOR TOMORROW?
>> TURNOUT, SPECIFICALLY AMONG
YOUNG PEOPLE.
RECALL THE PARK LAND SHOOTING
AND THE STUDENTS FROM THAT HIGH
SCHOOL THAT WENT OUT TO RECRUIT
AND REGISTER MILLENNIAL AFTER
MILLENNIAL AFTER MILLENNIAL TO
THE DEGREE GUNS ARE AN ISSUE IN
FLORIDA.
THAT WAS REINFORCED A COUPLE
DAYS AGO WITH THAT SHOOTING HERE
IN TALLAHASSEE AT THE YOGA
CLASS.
SO WILL YOUNG PEOPLE TURN OUT
THESE MIDTERMS IN FLORIDA?
THEY TEND TO SKEW DEMOCRATIC AND
THEY TEND TO ALSO STAY HOME ON
ELECTION DAYS.
WE'LL SEE TOMORROW.
>> OKAY.
THANKS, PAUL.
PAUL HUNTER IN TALLAHASSEE
TONIGHT.
>>> UPDATE TONIGHT ON THAT
CAMPAIGN AD THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP
TWEETED OUT LAST WEEK.
IT HAS BEEN PULLED BY FACEBOOK
AND AT LEAST TWO U.S. TELEVISION
NETWORKS.
THE AD SUGGESTED THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY LED IN DANGEROUS MIGRANTS.
IT WAS CRITICIZED FOR BEING
RACIST AND CONTAINING FALSE
INFORMATION.
TODAY, BOTH FOX NEWS AND NBC
ANNOUNCED THEY WOULD STOP AIRING
THE AD.
FACEBOOK SAYS THE AD VIOLATES
THE POLICY AND WILL NOT RECEIVE
PAID DISTRIBUTION, THOUGH IT CAN
BE POSTED BY USERS.
>> WE SEE THE ADS FROM ACROSS
THE BORDER.
WE SEE THE HEIGHTANCE AND
RHETORIC.
WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE IN TRUMP
COUNTRY RIGHT NOW?
>> IT'S INTERESTING.
PEOPLE TELL US THEY ACTUALLY
GRIEVE FOR REASONED
CONVERSATION.
IT'S SOMETHING THEY MOURN AND
THAT'S A LOSS SO SKEW, PAPERS DO
AN INTERESTING THING.
THEY PUBLISH TWO EDITORIALS A
DAY, ONE CONSERVATIVE AND ONE
LIBERAL.
ANOTHER HAS A STABILITY PROJECT
THAT LOOKS FOR AND HIGHLIGHTS
ALL THE EFFORTS HAPPENING WHERE
PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO RESTORE
FAITH IN EACH OTHER AND
COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN EMERGENCY
OUTREACH.
THAT'S SOME OF THE LANGUAGE
THEY'RE USING.
IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT TOMORROW
WILL BE SO MUCH MORE THAN WHICH
PARTY WINS THE HOUSE AND THE
SENATE IN THE UNITED STATES
BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENS HERE
WILL BE A BIG DEAL BACK AT HOME
IN CANADA, TOO.
>> YOU CAN BET OF THAT -- ON
THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE PAYING SO MUCH
ATTENTION.
MOST POLLSTERS ARE BETTING ON A
SPLIT CONGRESS.
THAT COULD HAVE HUGE
IMPLICATIONS FOR US HERE IN
CANADA.
>>> CONSIDER THAT THE
ENVIRONMENT, OIL, AND GAS AND
EVEN A LARGE CHUNK OF OUR
ECONOMY COULD POTENTIALLY BE AT
PLAY.
>>> THIS IS A TERRIFIC DEAL FOR
ALL OF US.
>> FIRST ON TRADE, SURE THERE
MIGHT BE A KNEW USMCA DEAL.
IT'S UP TO BOTH HOUSES OF
CONGRESS TO RAD IDENTIFY IT
BEFORE THE ENDS OF NOVEMBER.
IF THE DEMOCRATS CONTROL THE
HOUSE, IT'S POSSIBLE THEY MIGHT
NOT WANT TO SIGN ANYTHING THAT
HAS PRESIDENT TRUMP'S NAME ON
IT.
A DIVIDED HOUSE COULD BRING
UNCERTAINTY AFTER A YEAR LONG
BATTLE TO RENEGOTIATE NAFTA.
>>> THEN THERE ARE PUNISHING
STEEL TARIFFS.
THEY COULD PUSH BACK AGAINST THE
PRESIDENT AND TRY TO DUMP THEM
ALTOGETHER.
>>> IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT WHILE
THE U.S. ECONOMY SEEMS TO BE
BOOMING ALONG NOW, THE STOCK
MARKET HISTORICALLY PERFORMS
WORSE UNDER A SPLIT CONGRESS AND
THAT MATTERS IN AN INTEGRATED
NORTH AMERICAN ECONOMY AND TO
THE MILLIONS OF CANADIANS WHO
INVEST STATE SIDE.
>>> APPEALING TO A MORE
ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS, A
DEMOCRATIC HOUSE COULD LEAD TO A
BACKLASH AGAINST CANADA I DON'T
KNOW OIL AND GAS PROJECTS.
THAT COULD MEAN MORE SUPPORT TO
FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE, WHICH
WOULD BE WELCOME NEWS TO MANY
CANADIANS.
>>> THE ONE THING THAT IS CLEAR,
DONALD TRUMP'S NAME ISN'T ON THE
BALLOT.
HE'LL BE PRESIDENT AFTER
TOMORROW NIGHT.
>> I CONTINUE TO HAVE A
CONSTRUCTIVE POSITIVE
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRESIDENT.
>> THAT MEANS FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU
AND THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT, IT
IS A RELATIONSHIP THEY'LL NEED
TO CONTINUE TO CAREFULLY
NAVIGATE.
>> WE WILL HAVE SPECIAL COVERAGE
TOMORROW.
KEITH JOINS ME FROM TORONTO.
LET'S TALK ABOUT EXPECTATIONS.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT, BUT GIVE US A SENSE OF
WHAT THEY ARE.
>> Reporter: THEY MAY BE
SURPRISING.
THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED SINCE THE
SUMMER.
I THINK THE MOST LIKELY OUTCOME
IS THAT DEMOCRATS WILL WIN THE
HOUSE BUT NOT THE SENATE AND
THAT OBVIOUSLY THE FLIP SIDE OF
THAT IS THAT REPUBLICANS HOLD
THE SENATE BUT DON'T WIN THE
HOUSE.
I SAY THAT THE RACE HASN'T
CHANGED VERY MUCH SINCE THE
COURSE OF THE SUMMER.
IF ANYTHING, THAT HAS BECOME
MORE PRONOUNCED.
THE LATEST FORECAST I LOOKED AT
TODAY GIVES THE DEMOCRATS OVER
AN 85% CHANCE OF WINNING THE
HOUSE TOMORROW, BUT, OF COURSE,
LESS THAN ABOUT 16 OR 15% CHANCE
OF WINNING THE SENATE.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER,
THOUGH, ROSE MARE -- ROSEMARY,
EVEN THOUGH THOSE ARE SMALL
NUMBERS THAT REPUBLICANS WILL
WIN THE HOUSE, SMALL NUMBER
DEMOCRATS WILL WIN THE SENATE,
YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY.
WE LEARNED HOW IMPORTANT IT IS
TO TAKE SMALL NUMBERS SERIOUSLY
IN 2016.
>> WE SURE DID.
OKAY.
AND CERTAINLY, WE'VE SEEN TRUMP
IN THE PAST FEW DAYS CONCENTRATE
ON SENATE RACES.
SO GIVE US A SENSE OF HOW
SIGNIFICANT THESE MIDTERM
ELECTIONS WILL BE FOR HIM.
>> WELL, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT
HE'S CONCENTRATING ON SENATE
RACES IS CERTAINLY THAT HE
THINKS THAT'S THE WINNING HAT.
HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO SAY HE
HAD AN IMPACT ON THOSE RACES.
IT'S A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT
MIDTERM ELECTION FOR THE
PRESIDENT.
HE KNOWS IF HE LOSES EITHER ONE
OF THESE CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS T
COULD TURN HIS WORLD UPSIDE
DOWN.
IMAGINE LOSING THE HOUSE WITH
DEMOCRATS HAVING CONTROL OF ALL
THOSE COMMITTEES, BUDGETS, TO
INVESTIGATE THE PRESIDENT IN
TERMS OF HIS CONNECTIONS WITH
RUSSIA, TO INVESTIGATE HIS
BUSINESS DEALINGS, TO CALL FOR
HIS TAX RETURNS AND HAVE THE IRS
SURRENDER THEM.
THOSE ARE BIG DEALS FOR THE
PRESIDENT, HE KNOWS IT.
>> EVEN IMPEACHMENT HAS BEEN ON
THE LIPS OF SOME DEMOCRATS,
UNLIKELY BUT IT'S OUT THERE,
TOO.
THANK YOU, SIR.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> STILL TO COME, I SIT DOWN
WITH SIX AMERICANS IN OHIO'S
HOTLY CONTESTED 12th DISTRICT.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT POLITICS, THE
PRESIDENT, AND THE GREAT
AMERICAN DIVIDE.
>>> IT IS SCARY FOR ME TO SAY IN
THE COUNTRY THAT I LOVE THAT I
FEAR ON A REGULAR MY SON.
>> TELL ME WHAT YOU FEEL ABOUT
YOUR SONS THAT --
>> I FEAR FOR THEM.
>> OH, FEAR FOR THEM.
>> I FEAR FOR THEM.
I FEAR FOR THEM.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK IS
DISTURBING.
WE'RE NOT EVEN TWO YEARS INTO
THIS.
>> AMERICANS HEAD TO THE POLLS
TOMORROW, AND AS YOU MAY HAVE
GUESSED, OUR COVERAGE WILL START
TOMORROW AT 8:00 P.M. EASTERN ON
CBC NEWS NETWORK.
WE'LL BE LIVE THROUGHOUT THE
EVENING.
>> Ian: LET'S TURN TO A STORY
HERE AT HOME.
THE NUMBER IS HUGE.
165 MILLION, ALL OF IT OWED TO
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
CANADA'S MOST VULNERABLE
VETERANS.
IT WENT MISSING FROM THEIR
DISABILITY AWARDS AND PENSIONS.
IT WENT UNDISCOVERED FOR YEARS.
IT'S A MAJOR EMBARRASSMENT FOR
VETERANS AFFAIRS CANADA.
[*]
>>> THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR
WHEN CANADIANS CELEBRATE AND
HONOUR THEIR VETERANS AND
REMEMBER THE COSTED OF WAR.
>> I ASSURE YOU THIS GOVERNMENT
IS COMMITTED TO TREATING THE
VETERANS WITH THE CARE AND
COMPASSION EARNED.
>> Reporter: THEY MAY HAVE
EARNED IT, BUT THE VETERANS
DEPARTMENT HAS HAD TROUBLE WITH
THE MATH.
THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT TODAY
ACKNOWLEDGED AN ACCOUNTING
ERROR.
FOR YEARS, THE INDEX CALCULATION
FOR DISABILITY AWARDS AND
PENSIONS WAS INCORRECT.
THEY DID NOT FACTOR IN THE BASIC
PROVINCIAL TAX CREDIT FOR
INDIVIDUALS.
THAT MEANT LOWER MONTHLY
PAYMENTS FOR 272,000 VETERANS,
MANY OF WHOM FOUGHT IN THE
SECOND WORLD WAR AND THE KOREAN COREY
HE -- KOREAN WAR.
>> THEY HAVE SECURED THE FUNDS,
AND THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT HOW
THEY REACH OUT TO THESE VETERANS
AND FAMILIES AND ESTATES.
GOING FORWARD, WE PAY THEM
BECAUSE IT'S MONEY THAT SHOULD
HAVE BEEN IN THE VETERANS
POCKETS THAT IS NOT.
>> Reporter: OVER HALF OF THE
272,000 AFFECTED HAVE ALREADY
DIED.
VETERANS AFFAIRS MINISTER ISSUED
A STATEMENT.
WE WILL ENSURE THOSE AFFECTED
RECEIVE THE COMPENSATION TO
WHICH THEY ARE ENTITLED.
AT THIS STAGE, GIVEN THE NUMBER
OF INDIVIDUALS AFFECTED, WE
EXPECT TO ISSUE PAYMENTS BY
2020.
THERE IS ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT
ASPECT TO THE STORY.
IN THE EARLY 2000s, THE
ACCOUNTING ERROR WAS UNCHECKED
FOR ALMOST 8 YEARS.
IN 2011, VETERANS AFFAIRS BEGAN
USING THE CORRECT CALCULATION.
IT DID NOT, HOWEVER, NOTIFY
VETERANS THEY MAY BE OUT OF
POCKET, AND THE OMBUDSMAN SAYS
HE DOESN'T KNOW WHY.
CANADA'S FORMER TOP MILITARY
COMMANDER IS WILLING TO BELIEVE
IT'S AN HONEST SNAFU, BUT HE
STILL HAS QUESTIONS.
>> YOU WONDER WHY IT TOOK SO
LONG TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT WAS AN
ERROR AND WHY IT WASN'T -- THERE
WASN'T SOME KIND OF COMPENSATION
AT THE END OF IT.
>> Reporter: TONIGHT, SOME ARE
CALLING FOR AN INVESTIGATION BY
THE AUDITOR GENERAL.
CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.
>> Ian: SOME OTHER STORIES WE'RE
FOLLOWING TONIGHT.
U.S.A. GYMNASTICS LOOKS AT -- IT
SET TO LOSE THE ROLE AS THE
SPORTS GOVERNOR BODY.
>> THERE IS BEEN A FAILURE IN
THE SYSTEM TO PROTECT ATHLETES,
INCLUDING ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT HAVE BEEN HANDLED, OR
SHOULD I SAY NOT HANDLED.
>> THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE IS
TAKING THE FIRST STEP IN
REVOKING THE GOVERNOR RIGHTS IN
THE WAKE OF THE LARRY NASSAR
SEXUAL ABUSE SCANDAL.
HE WAS SENTENCED IN JANUARY.
THE DECERTIFYING PROCESS HAS A
NUMBER OF STEPS ENDING IN A VOTE
BY THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE
BOARD.
>>> DRIVERS CONTINUE TO FIND
DEBRIS FROM THE FLIGHT THAT
CRASHED INTO THE SEA.
THERE WAS AN UPDATE AS TO WHAT
MAY HAVE GONE WRONG.
THE PLANE HAD A MALFUNCTIONING
AIRSPEED INDICATOR, NOT JUST ON
THIS FLIGHT BUT ON THE 3 BEFORE
THAT.
THE BOEING 737 MAX 8 WAS ONLY A
COUPLE OF MONTHS OLD WHEN IT
CRASHED.
THAT MODEL IS ALSO USED BY
AIRLINES HERE IN CANADA.
>>> ONTARIO PREMIER DOUG FORD
ANNOUNCED A CABINET SHUFFLE THIS
MORNING.
HE DIDN'T GIVE A REASON FOR THE
NEW A APPOINTMENTS, BUT IT
FOLLOWS THE SUDDEN RESIGNATION
OF JIM WILSON, ONE OF FORD'S TOP
MINISTERS.
>>> WE'VE NOW LEARNED MORE ABOUT
WHY JIM WILSON RESIGNED QUICKLY.
AT THIS POINT, WHAT DO WE KNOW?
>> WELL, IAN, WE KNOW THAT THREE
SOURCES IN THE PC PARTY HAVE
TOLD ME THAT JIM WILSON'S
RESIGNATION WAS TRIGGERED BY AN
ALLEGATION OF SEXUALLY
INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOUR.
NOW, I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO
CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT THIS
ALLEGATION IS TRUE.
WE DID TRY TO REACH JIM WILSON
TODAY, BUT NOBODY FROM HIS
OFFICE RETURNED OUR PHONE CALLS.
PREMIER DOUG FORD'S PEOPLE ARE
NOT SAYING ANYTHING OFFICIALLY
ABOUT THIS.
HOWEVER, THEY ARE NEITHER
CONFIRMING NOR DENYING IT WAS
THIS ALLEGATION THAT TRIGGERED
THE RESIGNATION.
ONE OF THE CABINET MINISTERS DID
SPEAK ABOUT IT TO REPORTERS IN
OTTAWA.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS A SWIFT
ACTION WAS TAKEN.
HE RESIGNED IMMEDIATELY, AND AN
INVESTIGATION IS PUT IN PLACE.
I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
>> WORD CAME DOWN LATE ON FRIDAY
AND AT THE TIME, THE PARTY SAID
IT WAS BECAUSE HE WAS GETTING
TREATMENT FOR ADDICTION ISSUES.
>> WELL, THIS IS TRUE, IAN, BUT
MULTIPLE SOURCES IN THE PC PARTY
TELL ME THAT JIM QUILL SON
THAT'S STRUGGLED WITH ALCOHOL
ADDICTION FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
SO THESE PEOPLE WERE QUESTIONING
WHY THE RESIGNATION NOW, THE
TIMING, AND IN PARTICULAR, THEY
WERE ALSO WONDERING WHY HE HAD
TO STEP ASIDE FROM THE PC
CAUCUS.
HE HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THAT PC
CAUCUS SINCE 1990.
>> ALL RIGHT, MIKE.
THANK YOU.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
>>> STILL AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL," A SCENE MEANT TO STOP
YOU IN YOUR TRACKS.
WE'LL TAKE YOU TO THE TOWER OF
LONDON AND A STUNNING ACT OF
REMEMBRANCE FOR THE 1100th
ANNIVERSARY OF THE END OF THE
FIRST WORLD WAR.
>>> NEXT, CBC NEWS INVESTIGATION
INTO BIG BANK SALES TACTICS IS
GETTING INSURANCE ON YOUR CREDIT
CARD A SMART FINANCIAL MOVE FOR
YOU OR THE BANK?
>> I FELT LIKE THEY WERE TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF ME, A STUDENT.
THEY DIDN'T EXPLAIN THINGS FOR
ME ENOUGH TO KNOW MORE ABOUT
>>> HE HAD TOLD ME HE WAS
GETTING THIS INSURANCE JUST IN
CASE ANYTHING EVER HAPPENED TO
HIM.
>> LAST NIGHT, WE INTRODUCED TO
YOU AN ONTARIO WOMAN WHO CHOSE
TO GO PUBLIC ABOUT INSURANCE ON
HER AILING HUSBAND'S CREDIT
CARD.
SHE SAYS PROTECTION DIDN'T WORK
THE WAY SHE EXPECTED AND SAYS
THAT SHE WAS CALLED REPEATEDLY
FOR PAYMENTS THAT SHE DIDN'T
BELIEVE WERE FAIR.
IT WAS ONLY AFTER CBC CONTACTED
THE COMPANY THAT THE ISSUE WAS
RESOLVED.
CANADA'S BIGGEST BANKS MAKE A
LOT OF MONEY SELLING THE SAME
TYPE OF CREDIT CARD PROTECTION.
BUT AS WE LEARN, THERE ARE MANY
WARNINGS ABOUT WHETHER THIS
PROTECTION IS EVEN WORTH IT.
>> Reporter: CANADA'S BIG BANKS
MAIDS BUNDLES OFF-BALANCE
PROTECTION INSURANCE, A PRODUCT
THE GOVERNMENT'S OWN FINANCIAL
WATCHDOG CALLS HIGH RISK FOR
CONSUMERS, PROBLEMATIC, AND
OFTEN SOLD WITHOUT APPROPRIATE
EXPLANATION.
>> IT'S EXPENSIVE.
IT DOESN'T COVER A LOT OF
SITUATIONS, AND IT PAYS OUT A
VERY SMALL AMOUNT MOST OF THE
TIME.
>> WHY ARE THE BANKS SELLING IT.
>> IT'S PURE PROFIT.
>> Reporter: TO SEE HOW THEY'RE
SELLING IT, WE ASKED HIDE ERA
MEAN TO WEAR A HIDDEN CAMERA AND
HEAR THE SALES PITCH.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> Reporter: SOMETIMES BANK
EMPLOYEES COULDN'T EVEN EXPLAIN
THE INSURANCE.
>> SO WHAT IT IS.
>> INSURANCE, A BALANCE.
>> Reporter: OTHER TIMES, THEY
WERE INACCURATE.
>> LET'S SAY YOU'RE USING YOUR
CARD AND YOU HAVE $5,000 ON IT
AND YOU LOST YOUR JOB,
SCOTIABANK WILL PAY OFF YOUR
CREDIT CARD.
>> Reporter: THAT'S NOT EXACTLY
TRUE.
THIS INSURANCE TYPICALLY ONLY
COVERS THE MINIMUM PAYMENT OR A
SMALL PART OF YOUR BALANCE.
EVEN THEN, MANY DON'T EVER
COLLECT, INCLUDING HADER AMIN.
>> THEY WERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF
ME.
THEY DIDN'T EXPLAIN THINGS FOR
ME ENOUGH TO KNOW MORE ABOUT
BALANCE PROTECTION.
>> Reporter: BANK INSIDERS TOLD
US THEY SOMETIMES MISLEAD
CUSTOMERS TO MAKE A SALE AND A
COMMISSION.
>> I FOUND THIS WHOLE SITUATION
EXCUSE MY.
>> Reporter: SOME CUSTOMERS TOLD
US THEYENED UP PAYING PREMIUMS
THEY NEVER ASKED FOR.
>> WITHOUT MY PERMISSION AND
KNOWLEDGE.
>> I DIDN'T ASK FOR IT.
>> Reporter: CANADA'S BIG BANKS
SAY THEY TAKE CUSTOMER CONCERNS
SERIOUSLY AND THE INSURANCE IS
MEANT TO HELP CUSTOMERS.
BUT IN THE U.S., UK, AND
AUSTRALIA, SOME BANKS STOPPED
SELLING THE INSURANCE AFTER THAT
THEY WERE FINED BILLIONS FOR
MISLEADING CONSUMERS, INCLUDING
OVER SIMILAR PRACTICES ON CREDIT
CARD PROTECTION INSURANCE.
THERE HAVE BEEN WARNINGS IN
CANADA, BUT NO SIMILAR CRACK
DOWN.
INSTEAD, CUSTOMERS LIKE HADER
AMIN ARE TRYING TO GET THE MONEY
THEY PAID BACK.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, THERE IS NOT
MUCH WE CAN DO.
>> Reporter: DAVID COMMONS, CBC
NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Rosemary: NEXT, WE CAN IN
DEPTH INTO BATTLEGROUND OHIO.
I MET WITH SIX VOTERS TO TALK
ABOUT WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE IN
THE MIDDLE OF A
>> President Donald Trump: WHO
EVER EVEN HEARD OF MIDTERMS.
PEOPLE SAY* THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT
MIDTERMS S BUT NOW I'M WATCHING
EVERY SINGLE
MINUTE AND I'M
GOING OUT TO VOTE.
THE KEY IS, YOU HAVE TO GO OUT
TO VOTE.
IN A SENSE, I AM ON THE TICKET.
YOU HAVE TO GO OUT TO VOTE.
>> Rosemary: THAT'S DONALD TRUMP
ISSUING HIS CLOSING ARGUMENT
BEFORE THEY HEAD TO THE POLLS.
HE WON IN 2016, AND HE VISITED
THOSE STATES.
MUCH OF THE ATTENTION BE WILL BE
ON A FEW SEATS INCLUDING OHIO'S
12th CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
IT'S CONSIDERED A TOSS-UP AND
WILL BE TO SOME DEGREE A
REFERENDUM ON THE U.S.
PRESIDENT.
THAT'S WHY WE TRAVELED THERE TO
SPEAK TO VOTERS, CAUGHT UP IN A
DIVIDED AMERICA.
[*]
>> WE'LL LOOK AT ONE OF THE MOST
HOTLY CONTESTED RACEs IN OHIO,
COULCONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 12.
>> SO MANY CLOSE RACES HERE IN
OHIO.
I'M GOING TO ASK THEM TO LOOK
INTO THEIR CRYSTAL BALLS ON
WHO'LL COME OUT ON TOP NOVEMBER
6th.
THEIR PREDICTIONS.
[*]
>> Rosemary: GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> SIT DOWN.
LET'S CHAT.
>> INDEED.
LET'S TALK ABOUT MIDTERMS AND
HOW WILL>> THAT PLAY OUT IN OHIO
IN THE 12th DISTRICT.
>> WELL, THEY WOULD BE WRITTEN
OFF AS A REPUBLICAN WIN, BUT
BECAUSE IT'S A REFERENDUM, TO
SOME DEGREE, ON THE PRESIDENT,
THOUGH IT'S A DISTRICT THAT IS
MAJORITY REPUBLICAN, STILL IT
MAKES IT A COMPETITIVE RACE.
>> HOW CONCERNED SOME
REPUBLICANS BE ABOUT HOW TIGHT
IT IS IN THE 12th?
>> WELL, I THINK THEY'RE
WORRIED, OF COURSE, ABOUT THIS
DEMOCRATIC WAVE, WHETHER IT
MATERIALIZES OR NOT, WE'LL SEE.
REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN VERY
SUPPORTIVE OF THE POLICIES, BUT
THEN
THERE'S THE STYLE.
A LOT OF VOTERS, REPUBLICAN
VOTERS, DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE
THE STYLE.
THEY DISLIKE IT ENOUGH TO
WANT TO CAST A VOTE AGAINST A
REPUBLICAN RUNNING FOR CONGRESS?
>> OKAY.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO COME LATER.
>> I WILL BE THERE.
>> WE'LL LISTEN TO THE VOTERS
AND WE'LL SEE WHETHER THEY
SURPRISED BOTH OF US.
>> IT WILL BE REALLY
INTERESTING.
>> L SEE YOU IN A LITTLE BIT.
>> OKAY.
[*]
>> Rosemary: WE'RE GOING TO GO
IN AND GET SETTLED AND MIKED UP
AND EVERYTHINGG MARY, YOU'RE OVER
HERE.
CAROL, YOU'RE HERE.
DAVID, YOU'RE BESIDE ME.
ROLAND, YOU'RE HERE IN THE
MIDDLE.
TOM.
WE DID DIVIDE YOU BECAUSE IT
WOULD BE EASIER FOR ME TO
FOLLOW.
TAKE 4.
>> Rosemary: SO OBVIOUSLY WE'VE
SPLIT YOU UP SORT OF INTO NOT
SUCH A BIG FAN OF THE PRESIDENT,
FAN OF THE PRESIDENT.
SO TOM, I'M GOING TO START WITH
YOU.
HOW DO YOU THINK HE'S BEEN DOING
IN THIS FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS?
>> I THINK HE'S DOING A VERY
GOOD JOB.
ONE, HE'S DOING WHAT HE SAID HE
WAS GOING
TO DO.
HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO REFORM
TAXES.
HE REFORMED TAXES.
HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DID HE
REGULATE.
HE DID.
OUR ECONOMY IS THRIVING BECAUSE
OF THAT.
>> Rosemary: DAVIA, YOU'RE NOT A
BIG FAN.
>> NOT AT ALL A FAN.
>> Rosemary: HOW DO YOU THINK
HE'S DOING IN THE JOB?
>> MY GREATER CONCERN IS WHAT I
THINK IS HAPPENING FOR THE
PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY.
HE IS INCREDIBLY POLARIZING, HAS
CERTAINLY GIVEN PERMISSION TO --
FOR RACISM, FOR THE OVERT
EXPRESSION FOR RACISM.
>> Rosemary: TELL US WHAT YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT.
>> I WAS OUT ONE NIGHT WALKING
ANY DOG IN THE CIRCLE, AND A CAR
COMESD BY -- A LOT OF CARS TAKE
THE LOOP ON OUR STREET -- AND
SLOWED DOWN, SO I LEANED IN.
I WAS YELLED AT, GO BACK TOE
AFRICA, YOU BLACK B.
THIS IS ON MY STREET IN MY
NEIGHBOURHOOD THAT I LIVED IN
FOR 17 YEARS.
I WAS SO SHOCKED THAT I WASN'T
SURE IT HAPPENED.
>> I'M SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.
IT CAN'T BE TOLERATED.
I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WE YOU'LL
HAVEE EXPERIENCES.
WE YOU'LL HAVE LIFE EXPERIENCES.
BEING A FARM KID FROM SOUTHEAST
OHIO, COMING TO OHIO STATE TO
PROFESSOR BACK'S CLASS BACK
HERE, WE TALK FUNNY.
WE DRESS FUNNY.
SO THERE'S ALWAYS SOME SORT O OF
ELITISM WHERE YOU DON'T FIT IN.
OHIO IS REALLY THE POOREST PART
OF ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED
STATES.
WE'VE BEEN WANTING SOMEONE LIKE
PRESIDENT TRUMP SINCE I WAS A
KID TO RECOGNIZE THE GREATNESS
OF OUR COUNTRY, TO INSTILL PRIDE
IN OUR COUNTRY.
A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR TRUMP IS
WE'RE TIRED OF SUPPORTING
POLITICIANS WHO SAY THIS TO GET
ELECTED, GET THE BIG PRIMARY
WIN, AND WIN IN THE GENERAL.
TRUMP ISB FOLLOWING THROUGH ON
THINGS.
RIGHT.
>> Rosemary: HOW ABOUT YOU?
WHAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE BEEN IN
THESE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH
THIS PRESIDENT?
>> IT'S INTERESTING.
IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT THE WHAT.
IT'S ABOUT THE HOW FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE.
I THINK LEADERSHIP HAS CERTAIN
CHARACTERISTICS, AND
LEADERSHIP -- A LEADER MUST BE
HUMBLE, MUST TEACH A LEADER IN
ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO FOLLOW, MUST
BE AN EXAMPLE.
IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO
FOLLOW TRUMP IN THAT MANNER.
IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO
TELL MY KIDS, YOU KNOW, THAT THE
BEHAVIOUR, THE LANGUAGE IS
ACCEPTABLE, THE LIES IS
ACCEPTABLE.
THIS IS -- I THINK IT'S
DAMAGING, AND I CAN'T TELL YOU
TO WHAT EXTENT BECAUSE IT'S
BEING DAMAGED.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE
REPAIRED, HOW IT'S GOING TO BE
REPAIRED.
>> Rosemary: TOM, MAYBE I'LL GET
YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT HE SAID.
WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK TO YOU
MORE.
>> I WAS IN THE MARINE CORPS 24
YEARS.
I RETIRED AT LIEUTENANT COLONEL.
NOT EVERY LEADER THAT'S BEEN
HUMBLE.
GEORGE PATTON WAS NOT A HUMBLE
PERSON.
MANY PRESIDENTS -- MAKE NO
MISTAKES ABOUT IT, DONALD TRUMP
AS A POLITICIAN DOES NOT HAVE A
MONOPOLY ON LIES OF POLITICIANS.
OKAY.
YOUO CAN GO BACK SEVERAL -- EVERY
ADMINISTRATION AND PINPOINT, IF
YOU WILL, LACKS OF INTEGRITY OR
LACKS OF HONESTY.
>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
I THINK INSTIGATING IS IT THE
ISSUE.
I THINK, AGAIN, IF YOU'RE
MISLEADING AGGRESSIVELY LIKE
HE'S'S DOING IT, IT'S DIFFICULT TO
IDENTIFY WHEN HE'S ACTUALLY
TELLING THE TRUTH AND THEN WHEN
YOU CAN SUPPORT HIM.
>> Rosemary: SO IT LEADS US TO
THE GENDER SPLIT WE'RE SEEING IN
THE COUNTRY, THAT WE WILL SEE IN
THE MIDTERMS, IF YOU LOOK AT
SOME OF THEN POLLS, AND SOME OF
THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE
PRESIDENT TALKS ABOUT WOMEN.
SO I WANT TO SHOW ONE TWEET.
IT'S NOT JUST ANYONE.
IT'S STORMY DANIELS HE'S TALKING
ABOUT IN HIS TWEETS.
LETTED ME -- LET ME SHOW YOU.
NOW WE CAN GO AFTER HORSE FACE
AND HER THIRD RATE -- WHAT DID
YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?
>> I DON'T THINK TRUMP RESPECTS
WOMEN.
HE CLEARLY HAS SHOWN THAT TIME
AND AGAIN OTHER THAN MAYBE HIS
DAUGHTER ALTHOUGH THAT'S KIND OF
CREEPY, TOO, SOME OF THE THINGS
HE SAID ABOUT IVANKA.
I KEEP THINKING SHE'LL TAKE HIS
PHONE AWAY FROM HIM AND STOP HIM
FROM TWEETING BECAUSE
PARTICULARLY, IF YOU SUPPORT
HIM, HE DOES MORE HARM WITH
THESE CRAZY TWEETS.
HE DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT
FOR PEOPLE DIFFERENT FROM HIM.
>> Rosemary: WHAT DO YOU THINK,
TOM?
YOU HAVE A DAUGHTER.
SO HOW DO YOU RELATE TO THAT.
>> I THINK HE TREATS ALL PEOPLE
THE SAME.
I THINK HE'S AN EQUAL
OPPORTUNITY ABUSER OR PRAISER
DEPENDING WHO YOU ARE.
IF YOU ARE AGAINST HIM, IF YOU
PUNCH HIM, HE'S GOING TO PUNCH
YOU BACK HARD, WHETHER YOU'RE A
WOMAN, A MAN, WHETHER YOU'RE
RACIST OR WHATEVER YOUR
ETHNICITY S HE IS WHAT HE IS.
I'M A SUBSTANCE OVER STYLE KIND
OF PERSON.
I THINK THE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT
HE'S DOING AS PRESIDENT
OVERRIDES SOMEWHAT QUESTIONABLE
STYLE SOMETIMES.
>> IF HE WORKED IN ANY COMPANY
IN AMERICA, HE COULDN'T TALK TO
PEOPLE THAT WAY.
HE COULDN'T TREAT PEOPLE THAT
WAY.
TO HAVE THE PERSON WHO, YOU
KNOW, IS OUR REPRESENTATIVE TO
THE REST OF THE WORLD ACT THAT
WAY IS EMBARRASSING AS AN
AMERICAN.
>> I'M EMBARRASSED TO TRAVEL
EXTENSIVELY.
I FEEL LIKE WE'RE THE
LAUGHINGSTOCK.
WE'RE THE LAUGHINGSTOCK.
WE HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL SYSTEM
WHERE WE HAVE A CHANGE OF POWER
EVERY FOUR YEARS OR EVERY EIGHT
YEARS.
SOMETIMES YOUR GUY IS IN AND
SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT.
THAT'S FINE.
BUT THE INTEGRITY -- YOU TALKED
ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF THE MAN,
THE STATUS OF THE OFFICE.
I THINK HE HAS DIMINISHED IT
GREATLY.
>> I JUST REALLY THINK IN
PEOPLE, WE'RE TIRED OF
POLITICIANS.
THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF MY BIG
THINGS BECAUSE WHEN YOU WATCH
ALL THIS ARGUING, YOU KNOW, LIKE
THE KAVANAUGH HEARINGS OR ANY
HEARINGS, THESE PEOPLE LOVE TO
HEAR THEMSELVES TALK, LOVE IT.
IT MIGHT MEAN NOTHING.
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS I WISH
DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T SAY, BUT
HE'S NOT A POLITICIAN.
>> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD
ARGUMENT A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
HE'S A POLITICIAN NOW.
HE'S A POLITICIAN.
HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES.
I THINK, YEAH, IF THAT WAS YOUR
CRITERIA, ONE OF YOUR CRITERIA
FOR SUPPORTING HIM, I SEE THAT.
I THINK THAT'S -- I THINK THAT
SENTIMENT IS NOT LIMITED TO
CONSERVATIVES.O
I THINK THAT ARGUMENT IS DEAD
NOW.
>> THERE WAS VERY LITTLE TALK
ABOUT POLICY.
EVEN THOUGH THERE HAVE BEEN
FAIRLY SIZABLE POLICY CHANGES.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT FOREIGN
POLICY.
I THINK RUSSIA WAS NEVER
MENTIONED.
>> NO.
>> IN ALL OF THIS.
I EXPECTED PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T
LIKE HIM TO NOT LIKE HIM BECAUSE
OF HIS DEMEANOUR AND HIS STYLE.
PEOPLE WHO LIKED HIM MORE FOR
THE POLICIES, BUT THEY LIKE THE
STYLE ALSO.
THEY LIKE THE FACT, AS SEVERAL
OF THEM PUT IT, THAT HE'S NOT A
POLITICIAN.
STEVE WAS SAYING, I COME FROM
APPALACHIA, AND I UNDERSTAND
THAT PEOPLE THERE FEEL LIKE
THEY'VE BEEN LEFT BEHIND.
NOBODY SEEMS TO CARE ABOUT THEM.
POLITICIANS GO DOWN AND THEY
MAKE ALL THESE PROMISES, AND
THENI NOTHING HAPPENS.
TRUMP COMES ALONG AND MAKES
THESE PROMISES, AND INDEED
SOMETHING HAPPENS.
NOW, AGAIN, HOW WELL --
>> Rosemary: HOW LONG LASTING --
>> WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO
THAT.
>> Rosemary: BUT THE DIVISIONS
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, HAVE ANY OF
YOU EXPERIENCES THAT ON A
PERSONAL LEVEL WHERE YOU KNOW
YOU CAN'T TALK
>>> A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY I'M
WORRIED.
THERE'S A DISQUIET OUT THERE.
THE THINGS FOR ONE REASON OR
ANOTHER ARE NOT GOING WELL.
PART OF THE REASON IS KIND OF
POLARIZATION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR
SOCIETY.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS HAPPENING
IN THE NEWS RIGHT NOW IS THIS
CARAVAN OF PEOPLE MAKING THEIR
WAY TO THE BORDER.
THE PRESIDENT IS PORTRAYING IT
IN A PARTICULAR WAY.
LET ME PLAY THAT CLIP FOR YOU.
>> President Donald Trump: YOU
SEE THE PEOPLE COME UP AND YOU
LISTEN TO THE FAKE NEWS BACK
THERE AND YOU THINK THEY'RE
ALL -- THEY THINK THEY'RE ALL
WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
RIGHT?
NO.
NO.
YOU THINK -- I'M SERIOUS.
YOU THINK THEY'RE ALL WONDERFUL
PEOPLE.
YOU'VE GOT SOME BAD PEOPLE IN
THOSE GROUPS.
YOU'VE GOT SOME TOUGH PEOPLE IN
THOSE GROUPS.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.
THIS COUNTRY DOESN'T WANT THEM.
OKAY?
WE DON'T WANT THEM.
>> Rosemary: IT'S A TOUGH ISSUE,
YOU GUYS HAVE.
WE JUST HAVE ALL OF YOU.
SO HE WITH DON'T HAVE THE SAME
ISSUE IN CANADA.
>> I MEAN, TO STOP ALL
IMMIGRATION IS NOT THE ANSWER.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEING
SUGGESTED AT ALL.
WE'RE NOT AGAINST IMMIGRATION.
WE'RE AGAINST ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION.
IT'S BAD FOR THE ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS.
THEY GET EXPLOITED.
THEY'RE NOT GETTING PAID A FAIR
WAGE.
THEY'RE NOT BEING TAKEN CARE OF.
THE JOURNEY HERE TO THE UNITED
STATES IS DANGEROUS.
FOR EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND ON A
BORDER PATROL GUY OR ON THE WALL
ALSO SPEND MONEY ON LEGALLY
BRINGING PEOPLE INTO THIS
COUNTRY.
WE HAVE A GREAT NEED FOR LABOUR
IN THIS COUNTRY.
OKAY.
IT'S GOING TO HELP PEOPLE
ACHIEVE SOME OF THEIR DREAMS,
BUT IT'S GOT TO BE DONE LEGALLY.
>> YOU HAVEN'T WEIGHED IN ON
THIS.
>> I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW THE
ANSWER TO THE IMMIGRATION
PROBLEM.
I THINK WHAT I AM UP AGAINST IS
THAT IT IS COMPLEX, AND IT IS
NUANCED.
BUT IT'S BEING PRESEN PRESENTED AS US
AGAINST THEM.
THEY'RE BAD.
WE'RE GOOD.
IT'S FAR MORE COMPLEX THAN THAT.
IF IT WASN'T, THEN WE WOULD HAVE
SOME SORT OF A SOLUTION.
>> BUT THE DIVISIONS WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT, HAVE I IN OF YOU
EXPERIENCED THAT ON A PERSONAL
LEVEL?
BY THAT I MEAN PEOPLE THAT HEAR
YOUR THOUGHTS AND DON'T WANT TO
TALK TO YOU ANYMORE OR YOU KNOW
YOU CAN'T TALK POLITICS AT THE
TABLE.
>> YOU MEAN LIKE MY SISTERS.
>> ROLAND, WE'LL GO AROUND
BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL
HAVE --
>> EXACTLY.
I GO TO FLORIDA TO VISIT MY
FAMILY.
MY DAD IS 1, HARD LINE
REPUBLICAN.
I CALL MY SISTER A FOX
REPUBLICAN.
THAT'S ALL SHE REPEATS.
BUT THAT'S -- THAT'S THEIR
BELIEF.
THEY THINK I'M LIKE YOU MARRIED
A MIDWESTERN WOMAN AND LIVE IN
OHIO.
WHAT HAPPENED?
SO YEAH.
THERE'S A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION
WE HAVE.
I WILL TELL YOU, WITH MY SISTER,
WE JUST DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.
>> WE CANNOT HAVE A CONVERSATION
WHERE YOU AVOID TRUMP.
THAT BECAME CLEAR BECAUSE HE IS
SUCH A POLARIZING FIGURE.
IT IS SCARY FOR ME TO SAY IN THE
COUNTRY THAT I LOVE THAT I FEAR
ON A REGULAR MY SON.
AND MY SON --
>> TELL ME WHAT YOU FEEL ABOUT
YOUR SONS THOUGH.
>> I FEAR FOR THEM.
>> OH, FEAR FOR THEM.
>> I FEAR FOR THEM.
I FEAR FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY
FEEL AS IF THEY -- THIS IS THE
COUNTRY THEY LOVE.
THIS IS ALL THEY KNOW.
THEY DON'T WANT TO BE ANYWHERE
ELSE AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE
ANYWHERE ELSE.
THIS IS OUR HOME.
BUT I'VE WATCHED THEM TRY NOT TO
BE DEMORALIZED WHEN THEY HAVE
INTERACTIONS WITH EITHER LAW
ENFORCEMENT OR EVEN JUST THEIR
FRIENDS.
THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THIS
CLIMATE.
FRIENDSHIPS ARE DIFFERENT.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK IS
DISTURBING?
WE'RE NOT EVEN TWO YEARS INTO
THIS.
THERE'S SO MUCH HATE.
>> YOU LOOK AT SOME OF IT, TOO,
IS --
>> IMAGINE 2020.
>> THE RED STATE BLUE STATE
THING, JUST GEOGRAPHICALLY, THE
MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY IS
DIFFERENT FROM THE COAST.
HOPEFULLY WE'RE NOT HEADED
TOWARDS ANOTHER CIVIL WAR.
THERE ARE HUGE DIFFERENCES.
>> THAT'S A RECENT THING.
YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE POLITICS
LINE UP, YOU KNOW, BASED ON
CULTURAL DIFFERENCES WHEREAS
BEFORE, REPUBLICANS AND
DEMOCRATS, INDEPENDENTS,
EVERYBODY KIND OF WENT TO THE
SAME YOU ARE CAN MUCH, THE SAME
GROCERY STORE, WORKED AT THE
SAME FACTORIES, WHAT HAVE YOU.
NOW, OUR LIVES ARE DIFFERENT.
I THINK THAT'S A GROWING CONCERN
FOR ME.
CULTURALLY, WE MIGHT BECOME
DIFFERENT.
>> THE MIDTERM IS GOING TO
HAPPENMENHAPPENMENT -- HAPPEN.
YOU'RE ALL GOING TO VOTE.
WHAT HAPPENS THE NEXT DAY AND
THE DAYS AFTER?
DOES ANY OF THIS DIVISION THAT
YOU ALL ACKNOWLEDGE EXISTS, THAT
NONE OF YOU REALLY LIKE, DOES IT
GO AWAY AFTER THE MIDTERM?
WHAT HAPPENS?
>> WELL, FOR MYSELF, I KNOW THAT
I TEND TO BE OPEN AND BALANCED,
AND I FEEL LIKE I DON'T HAVE THE
LUXURY OF BEING BALANCED, THAT I
HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE POLARRISM
BY BEING POLARIZED.
SO I'M HOPEFUL BECAUSE THERE ARE
MECHANISMS.
YOU CAN VOTE.
YOU CAN CAMPAIGN.
YOU CAN -- SO I'M HOPEFUL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE IT.
I'M NOT JOYFUL.
MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
THERE'S SOMETHING -- THE SHINE
IS GONE FOR ME.
>> Rosemary: THAT'S A GOOD PLACE
TO LEAVE IT.
THANK YOU ALL.
I LEARNED A LOT.
>> IT WAS DELIGHTFUL.
>> Rosemary: IT WAS GREAT.
>> SAFE TRAVELS.
[*]
>> Ian: THAT WAS AN INTERESTING
CONVERSATION.
STILL AHEAD ON "THE NATIONAL,"
AS FAR AS YOU CAN GET FROM THE
MIDTERMS, OUR MOMENT, THE FAB
FIVE OF GIRL POWER IS BACK.
WELL, MINUS ONE.
>> Rosemary: THAT'S OKAY.
I NEED A BREAK FROM IT.
FIRST, THE UNIQUE AND STEADY WAY
TO MARK THE 100th ANNIVERSARY
OF THE FIRST WORLD WAR IN CASE
YOU MISSED IT.
>>> THIS IS WHAT 10,000 FLAMES
LOOK LIKE ALL BURNING AT THE
SAME TIME IN THE TOWER OF LONDON
AND ITS EMPTY MOAT.
IT'S PART OF A DISPLAY THAT
DEBUTED LAST NIGHT AND WILL RUN
EVERY NIGHT UNTIL NOVEMBER
11th TO COMMEMORATE 100 YEARS
SINCE THE ENDS OF THE FIRST
WORLD WAR.
IF YOU THINK THE VIEW FROM THE
GROUND IS IMPRESSIVE, HERE'S
WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM ABOVE.
>> THE FLAME IS INTERESTING.
IT'S TWO DIFFERENT MEANINGS.
IT'S PART OF THE DESTRUCTION.
IT SYMBOLIZE $HOPE.
>> Rosemary: THE ORGANIZERS SAY
IT'S ABOUT REMEMBERING THE
SACRIFICES MADE BY THOSE LOST IN
THE WAR AND ALSO BY THOSE LEVEL
BEHIND.
>> THERE'S A FORM OF EXCITEMENT.
>> EVERY NIGHT, THEY WILL BRING
THE FLAME DOWN FROM THE TOWER.
THAT WILL THEN BE USED TO IGNITE
ALL THE OTHER TORCHES, AND IT'S
MORE THAN JUST A VISUAL
EXPERIENCE.
MUSIC AND WORDS ECHO BETWEEN THE
WALLS.
[*]
>> WE NEED TO BRING LIGHT.
IN OUR CURRENT SITUATION IN THE
WORLD, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO
CONTEMPLATE NOW ABOUT HOW WE
KEEP PEACE.
>> A CENTURY LATER, THE MESSAGE
[*]
>> Ian: FANS TOLD THEM WHAT THEY
REALLY WANT.
THE SPICE GIRLS DELIVERED.
THEY A UNITED STATES NOD THEY
WOULD BE REUNITING FOR THEIR
FIRST TOUR IN A DECADE.
THE BIG NEWS BROKE ON SOCIAL
MEDIA EARLIER TODAY, AND BECAUSE
I GOT OUTVOTED, IT'S OUR MOMENT
OF THE DAY.
[*]
>> Ian: YOU HEARD RIGHT.
THEY HAVE ANNOUNCED THEY'RE
GOING ON TOUR.
BUT THERE WILL BE ONE THING
MISSING.
POSH SPICE CONFIRMED SHE HAD
OTHER COMMITMENTS.
THEY WISH THE WOMEN LOVE AND FUN
ON THEIR TOUR.
[*]
THE LAST TIME THE GROUP
PERFORMED TOGETHER WAS THE
CLOSING CEREMONY OF THE LONDON
OLYMPICS.
THERE HAS BEEN SPECULATION ABOUT
A REION NONE.
SO FAR, THIS TOUR IS LIMITED TO
THE UK, BUT THAT HASN'T STOPPED
FANS FROM CELEBRATING THE RETURN
OF GIRL POWER AND HOPING THEY
MAY EVENTUALLY CROSS THE POND.
[*]
>> Rosemary: I KNOW ALL THE
WORDS TO ALL THOSE SONGS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY.
I WILL JUST SAY THAT VICTORIA
BECKHAM, AKA POSH IS NOT DOING
THIS BECAUSE HER FASHION LINE IS
WORKED $100 MILLION.
>>> IT SURPRISES ME, THE PEOPLE
WHO LOVE THE SPICE GIRLS.
GUESS HOW MANY TOP TEN HITS THEY
HAD IN THEIR ENTIRE CAREER.
>> Rosemary: THIS IS AN IAN
TRIVIA MOMENT.
I DO NOT KNOW.
>> Ian: JUST FOUR.
JUST FOUR.
LIKE THAT'S NOT A BIG NUMBER.
SO NOT A WIDE IMPACT, BUT
CLEARLY WITH SOME PEOPLE LIKE MY
COHOST, A DEEP IMPACT.
>> Rosemary: LIKE A GIRL POWER
THING.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK WHAT IT WAS
ABOUT.
>> Ian: FAIR ENOUGH.
WE SALUTE THAT.
THAT'S "THE NATIONAL" NO, SIR
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 5th.
GOOD NIGHT.
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