>> Ian: IT'S TUESDAY, JANUARY
30.
AND THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
>> Rosemary: TONIGHT, TWO BIG
POLITICAL STORIES UNFOLDING ON
BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER.
THE PRIME MINISTER OPENS UP
ABOUT METOO AND SAYS HE'S
CONFIDENT ABOUT HIS PAST
BEHAVIOUR.
>> Adrienne: DONALD TRUMP
ADDRESSES A NATION DIVIDED.
>> Ian: PLUS WE'RE LEARNING MORE
ABOUT THE ALLEGED SERIAL KILLER
IN TORONTO.
A MAN THAT DATED HIM SPEAKS TO
CBC NEWS.
>> Rosemary: BUT WE BEGIN WITH
THE DEVELOPING POLITICAL
STORIES.
WE'LL TAKE YOU, OF COURSE, TO
WASHINGTON SHORTLY, BEFORE
DONALD TRUMP HAS DELIVERED HIS
FIRST STATE OF THE UNION
ADDRESS.
WE'LL DIG INTO THE SPEECH
SEPARATING FACT FROM FICTION,
BUT WE BEGIN IN OTTAWA AND A CBC
NEWS EXCLUSIVE.
JUSTIN TRUDEAU SPEAKING OUT
ABOUT ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUALLY
INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOUR
INVOLVING MEN IN POSITIONS OF
POLITICAL POWER.
IN AN INTERVIEW WITH CBC RADIO
"THE HOUSE," HE BELIEVES THAT
MORE WOMEN WILL COME FORWARD.
DAVID COCHRANE HAS THE STORY
TONIGHT.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: I'M EXPECTING THAT WE
LISTEN, BELIEVE AND SUPPORT
WOMEN THAT COME FORWARD.
>> Reporter: JUSTIN TRUDEAU SAID
THAT IS HIS STANDARD AND IT
APPLIES TO ALLEGATIONS AGAINST
ANYONE INCLUDING HIM.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: THE STANDARD APPLIES TO
EVERYONE.
THERE IS NO CONTEXT IN WHICH
SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THINGS
THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
>> Reporter: TRUDEAU HAS DEALT
WITH SEXUAL MISCONDUCT TIME AND
TIME AGAIN SINCE BECOMING
LIBERAL LEADER.
BACK BENCHERS SCOTT ANDREWS,
DASRSHAN KANG.
HUNTER TOOTOO RESIGNED AFTER AN
INAPPROPRIATE RELATIONSHIP WITH
A YOUNG STAFFER.
KENT HEHR RESIGNED LAST WEEK.
IT EVEN REACHED THE PRIME
MINISTER'S OFFICE, WHERE SENIOR
STAFFER CLAUDE-ERIC GAGNE, IS ON
LEAVE WHILE AN INVESTIGATION IS
CONDUCTED REGARDING MULTIPLE
WOMEN.
TRUDEAU INSISTS ONE NAME YOU
WON'T SEE ON THAT LIST IS HIS.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: I DON'T THINK SO.
I'VE BEEN VERY, VERY CAREFUL ALL
MY LIFE TO BE THOUGHTFUL AND
RESPECTFUL OF PEOPLE'S SPACE AND
PEOPLE'S HEAD SPACE AS WELL.
>> Reporter: HIS PRINCIPLES ARE
FIRM, BUT THE PRIME MINISTER
CONCEDES THAT THE POLICY IS A
CASE-BY-CASE WORK IN PROGRESS.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: I DON'T HAVE A RULE
BOOK THAT'S BEEN HANDED DOWN TO
ME FROM WILFRID LAURIER.
WHEN YOU HAVE WOMEN HAVING TO
TURN TO THE MEDIA OR SOCIAL
MEDIA TO GET THEIR MESSAGE OUT,
IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A BREAKDOWN
IN THE SYSTEM SOMEWHERE.
>> Reporter: DO YOU EXPECT WE'LL
HEAR MORE BEFORE --
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: OF COURSE THERE WILL BE
MORE
THE LEVEL OF HARASSMENT AND
INEQUALITY AND SEXISM IN OUR
WORKPLACES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY
AT EVERY LEVEL HAS BEEN TOO LONG
IGNORED AND I THINK WE FINALLY
GOT TO A POINT WHERE I THINK
EVERY PLACE NEEDS TO WAKE UP.
>> Reporter: IN OTHER WORDS,
THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF A
POLITICAL RECKONING.
THE END IS A LONG WAYS OFF.
DAVID COCHRANE, CBC NEWS,
OTTAWA.
>> Rosemary: AND HOST OF "THE
HOUSE," CBC NEWS JOINS ME NOW.
CHRIS, IT'S BECOME A CULTURAL
MOVEMENT AND WHAT DID HE SAY CAN
BE DONE ABOUT IT?
>> Chris: HE TALKED ABOUT RULES
THAT APPLY TO HIM, AS WE HEARD
IN DAVID'S PIECE.
BUT HE WAS OPEN TO THE BILL IN
C-65, SAYING THAT HE'S OPEN TO A
CODE OF CONDUCT.
CANADIAN OLYMPIANS HAVE TO SIGN
A CODE OF CONDUCT.
HE SEES NO REASON WHY
PARLIAMENTARIANS, WHO ALSO
REPRESENT THEIR COUNTRY IN THE
HOUSE OF COMMONS, SHOULDN'T HAVE
TO DO SO AS WELL.
SO HE'S OPEN TO THESE IDEAS.
HE CLEARLY UNDERSTANDS THERE IS
LIKELY TO BE MORE COMPLAINTS.
I ALSO SENSE THAT HE WAS READY
FOR THE QUESTION.
HE HAD BEEN ASKED EARLIER IN THE
DAY ABOUT WHETHER ANYTHING HE
HAD DONE MIGHT RAISE CONCERNS OR
COMPLAINTS.
HE SAID, LOOK, I'VE BEEN VERY
CAREFUL, AS I'VE CARRIED OUT MY
LIFE.
HE WAS READY FOR THE QUESTION,
VERY CONFIDENT, I THOUGHT,
SAYING, YOU CAN LOOK AT MY
RECORD.
IT'S UNBLEMISHED.
EVEN THOUGH, AS I SAID, I'M OPEN
TO THE IDEA THAT EVEN THE PRIME
MINISTER WOULD HAVE TO BE HELD
TO ACCOUNT IN THE FUTURE.
>> Rosemary: OK, CHRIS.
THANKS FOR THAT.
YOU CAN HEAR THAT FULL INTERVIEW
WITH THE PRIME MINISTER AND
CHRIS ON "THE HOUSE" CBC RADIO
ONE THIS SATURDAY.
>>> TO WASHINGTON NOW, WHERE
U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
DELIVERED HIS FIRST STATE OF THE
UNION ADDRESS, TOOK HIS BOWS
AFTER, ALMOST CALM OFFERING,
SUBDUED BY TRUMP'S STANDARD.
PAUL HUNTER HAS BEEN TRACKING
THE STORY.
OK.
WE KNOW HE CAN READ A
TELEPROMPTER.
BEYOND THAT, WHAT SHOULD WE MAKE
OF THE SPEECH?
>> Reporter: THE RECORD SUBDUED
INDEED COMES TO MIND.
IN TERMS OF CONTENT, IF YOU
CONSIDER THAT ONE OF HIS MANY
CHALLENGES IS TO BRIDGE THE
SHARP POLITICAL DIVIDE AND THE
CONGRESS SPLIT SO BITTERLY IT'S
BEEN EFFECTIVELY PARALYZED THE
WHOLE TIME IN OFFICE.
ON THAT, HE SEEMS IT HAVE HAD A
GO TONIGHT.
BESIDES TOUTING THE STRONG
ECONOMY AND TAKING CREDIT FOR
IT, ONE OF THE BIGGEST APPLAUSE
LINES OF THE NIGHT CAME WHEN HE
REFERENCED THE SHOOTING OF THE
CONGRESSMAN AT A BASEBALL
PRACTICE REMINDING PEOPLE THAT
AFTER THAT HAPPENED EVERYONE IN
WASHINGTON SEEMED TO COME
TOGETHER AND SET ASIDE THEIR
PARTISAN DIFFERENCES.
TONIGHT TRUMP PUSHED THAT AS
SOMETHING TO STRIVE FOR NOW.
HERE'S A CLIP.
>> President Trump: TONIGHT, I
CALL UPON ALL OF US TO SET ASIDE
OUR DIFFERENCES, TO SEEK OUT
COMMON GROUND, AND TO SUMMON THE
UNITY WE NEED TO DELIVER FOR THE
PEOPLE.
THIS IS REALLY THE KEY.
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WE WERE
ELECTED TO SERVE.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Rosemary: OK.
SO CERTAINLY MORE RESERVED,
TRYING TO MAKE THAT APPEAL FOR
UNITY
WHAT DO WE MAKE OF THAT?
>> Reporter: YEAH, YOU KNOW,
TRUTH IS WITH DONALD TRUMP, YOU
JUST NEVER KNOW, RIGHT?
LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME, HE SPOKE
TO A JOINT SESSION OF CONGRESS
WITH THIS KIND OF TONE AND
EVERYONE SAYS, WELL, LOOK AT
THAT.
PRESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN HE STARTED TWEETING
AGAIN AND EVERYTHING WAS BACK TO
THE WAY IT WAS.
AND THAT'S THE QUESTION HERE.
WILL HE KEEP THIS UP OR WILL IT
BE THE SAME OLD SAME OLD BY THIS
TIME TOMORROW?
HE STILL HAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS,
NOT LEAST THE RUSSIA
INVESTIGATION, BUT ALSO
CONSISTENTLY LOW APPROVAL
RATINGS.
WITH MID TERM ELECTIONS LOOMING
IN THIS COUNTRY, AND WITH A
POSSIBLE ANNIHILATION COMING FOR
REPUBLICANS, NOW'S THE TIME TO
WIN BACK THOSE WHO BROUGHT HIM
INTO OFFICE.
MIGHT TONE DO THAT?
MAYBE.
OR MAYBE IT WOULD BE WITH A NOD
TO WHAT GOT HIM ELECTED IN THE
FIRST PLACE -- PUTTING AMERICA
FIRST.
TONIGHT, HE SEEMED TO REMIND HIS
BACKERS HE'S NOT FORGOTTEN THEM.
HERE'S ANOTHER CLIP.
>> President Trump: BUT AS
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
MY HIGHEST LOYALTY, MY GREATEST
COMPASSION, MY CONSTANT CONCERN
IS FOR AMERICA'S CHILDREN,
AMERICA'S STRUGGLING WORKERS,
AND AMERICA'S FORGOTTEN
COMMUNITIES.
I WANT OUR YOUTH TO GROW UP TO
ACHIEVE GREAT THINGS.
I WANT OUR POOR TO HAVE THEIR
CHANCE TO RISE BECAUSE AMERICANS
ARE DREAMERS, TOO.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Reporter: WILL IT WORK?
WILL TONIGHT'S MESSAGING AND
TONE SIGNAL A RESTART FOR TRUMP?
THE MID TERMS ARE JUST 9 MONTHS
AWAY, ROSEMARY.
>> Rosemary: OK, PAUL.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
PAUL HUNTER IN WASHINGTON
TONIGHT.
ADRIENNE IS KEEPING A VERY, VERY
CLOSE EYE ON THE SPEECH, THE
RHETORIC AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY,
THE REALITY OF IT.
>> Adrienne: IT'S TOTALLY
FASCINATING, ROSIE.
DONALD TRUMP DID EVERYTHING HE
COULD TO PRESENT THE BEST
POSSIBLE SNAPSHOT OF HIS
COUNTRY.
>> President Trump: THE STATE OF
OUR UNION IS STRONG BECAUSE OUR
PEOPLE ARE STRONG.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Adrienne: TONIGHT WE THOUGHT
WE WOULD TAKE A DIFFERENT LOOK
AT THE STATE OF THE UNION, BY
THE NUMBERS.
16, NUMBER OF HIGH-LEVEL
DEPARTURES FROM THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION IN HIS FIRST
YEAR.
THAT'S A RECORD-SETTING
TURNOVER, ACCORDING TO THE
BROOKINGS INSTITUTE.
TRIPLE THAT OF OBAMA.
DOUBLE THAT OF REAGAN.
12 THE NUMBER OF STATES WHERE
HIS APPROVAL RATING TOPPED 50%.
AND 63% OF AMERICAN MILLENNIALS
THAT DISAPPROVE OF THE WAY THAT
THE PRESIDENT IS HANDLING HIS
JOB.
THERE ARE MORE OF THEM, BY THE
WAY, THAN BABY BOOMERS IN THE
U.S.
IF THOSE ARE YOUR NUMBERS, THE
STATE OF THAT UNION IS
PRECARIOUS, BUT THOSE ARE NOT
THE PRESIDENT'S NUMBERS OF
CHOICE.
HE PREFERS STATS ON STOCKS.
THE NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE
DIDN'T PERFORM SPECTACULARLY
TODAY, BUT IT'S HAD AN
INCREDIBLE RUN AND TRUMP LEANS
ON THAT.
ECONOMIC SUCCESS IS ONE OF THE
PRESIDENT'S BIGGEST BOASTS, AND
THE STOCK MARKET IS ONE OF HIS
FAVOURITE BAROMETERS.
>> President Trump: THE STOCK
MARKET HAS SMASHED ONE RECORD
AFTER ANOTHER GAINING $8
TRILLION AND MORE IN VALUE IN
THIS SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
>> Adrienne: THAT'S AN
IMPRESSIVE NUMBER.
IT IMPRESSES HIM.
WHO IS CASHING IN ON THAT SURGE?
IN 2017, THE DOW SOARED UP 25%.
GOOD NEWS, BUT ONLY FOR SOME.
THE PERCENTAGE OF AMERICANS
INVESTING IN THE MARKET IN ONE
WAY OR ANOTHER HAS BEEN DROPPING
FOR A DECADE.
WITH FEWER AMERICANS INVESTING,
THAT LEAVES WAGES.
ARE WORKING MEN AND WOMEN
SHARING IN THAT GROWTH?
>> President Trump: AFTER YEARS
AND YEARS OF WAGE STAGNATION,
WE'RE FINALLY SEEING RISING
WAGES.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Adrienne: OK.
THAT'S WHAT TRUMP SAID TONIGHT.
LET'S SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS SAY.
THE BUREAU OF LABOUR STATISTICS
SAID THE AVERAGE HOURLY WAGE FOR
ALL PRIVATE EMPLOYEES IN THE
U.S. IS THE HIGHEST IT'S EVER
BEEN.
$26.63.
COMPARABLE CANADIAN WAGES, ALSO
AT THEIR HIGHEST, $26.68.
CURIOUSLY, BOTH AMERICAN AND
CANADIAN WAGES GREW EXACTLY 22
CENTS ABOVE THE EXPECTED RATES
OF INFLATION.
SO IT'S NOT JUST AN AMERICAN
PHENOMENON.
WHAT ABOUT ALL THE JOBS THAT
DONALD TRUMP PROMISED?
ARE AMERICANS REALLY GOING BACK
TO WORK?
>> President Trump: UNEMPLOYMENT
CLAIMS HAVE HIT A 45-YEAR LOW.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Adrienne: THAT MIGHT HAVE
BEEN TRUE LAST WEEK, ACCORDING
TO "THE WASHINGTON POST."
IN THE WEEK THAT ENDED JANUARY
13, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT
FILED UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS DID
HIT THE LOWEST LEVEL SINCE
JANUARY, 1973, BUT JOBLESS
CLAIMS ROSE LAST WEEK, NOW TO A
6-WEEK LOW, NOT 45-YEAR LOW.
TRUMP IS NOT WRONG WHEN HE
BOASTS OF LOW UNEMPLOYMENT.
4.8% WHEN HE TOOK OFFICE.
4.1% NOW.
LOWEST IN HISTORY?
NO.
THAT WAS IN THE '50s AT 2.5%.
YEARLY DROP IS NOT UNIQUE TO
HIM.
IT FOLLOWS THE TREND OF THE LAST
DECADE AND LOOK CAREFULLY AT
THAT PATTERN, THAT ECHOES
CANADA'S DROP, TOO.
5.7% IS THE LOWEST SINCE THE
START OF STATSCANADA RECORDS,
1976.
WE KNOW THAT PARSING THE
PRESIDENT'S WORDS WILL BE AN
AMERICAN OBSESSION FOR A WHILE.
THOSE THAT OPPOSE HIM HAD TO
THANK TWICE.
ONE POLITICIAN DELIVERED A
REBUTTAL THE MOMENT IT ENDED.
>> Ian: YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE
TO TURN THINGS AROUND VERY
QUICKLY.
THIS YEAR, A YOUNG CONGRESSMAN
BY THE NAME OF JOE KENNEDY IS
DOING THE SAME THING.
THAT'S RIGHT, GRANDSON OF FORMER
U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL BOBBY
KENNEDY, BROTHER OF J.F.K.
THE 37-YEAR-OLD KEPT A
RELATIVELY LOW PROFILE SINCE HIS
ELECTION TO CONGRESS IN 2013,
BUT THAT CHANGED LAST YEAR WHEN
HE RIPPED THE REPUBLICANS'
HEALTH PLAN.
HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY
TONIGHT.
>> IT WOULD BE EASY TO DISMISS
THIS PAST YEAR'S CHAOS,
PARTISANSHIP AS POLITICS.
BUT IT'S FAR, FAR BIGGER THAN
THAT.
THIS ADMINISTRATION IS NOT JUST
TARGETING THE LAWS THAT PROTECT
US.
THEY'RE TARGETING THE VERY IDEA
THAT WE'RE ALL WORTHY OF
PROTECTION.
FOR THEM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING
THAT YOU ARE BORN WITH, BUT
SOMETHING YOU MEASURE.
>> Ian: KENNEDY WENT ON TO SAY
THAT DEMOCRATS WILL FIGHT FOR
ALL AMERICANS AND VOWED TO FIGHT
FOR THE DREAMERS, HEALTHCARE AND
EQUAL RIGHTS.
LAWMAKERS ARE ALLOWED TO INVITE
GUESTS TO THE STATE OF THE UNION
AND MANY USE IT AS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A POLITICAL
STATEMENT.
WHO MADE THE CUT THIS YEAR?
SITTING NEXT TO THE FIRST LADY,
RYAN HOWLITZ.
LAST YEAR HE CAME ACROSS A
HOMELESS GIRL SHOOTING UP
HEROIN.
HE AND HIS WIFE HAVE ADOPTED THE
BABY.
ALSO PEOPLE WHO HAVE FOUND
SUCCESS IN MANUFACTURING.
FOR THE DEMOCRATS, IT'S ALL
ABOUT THE DREAMERS AND METOO.
YOU WILL SEE GUESTS WHO HAVE
BEEN PERSONALLY AFFECTED.
ROSE GUNTER, HER AUNT GANG RAPED
BY SIX WHITE MEN IN ALABAMA IN
1944.
RECY TAYLOR BECAME A SYMBOL OF
THE METOO MOVEMENT WHEN OPRAH
WINFREY EVOKED HER NAME AT THE
GOLDEN GLOBES.
A KEY ISSUE TONIGHT, THE ECONOMY
AND TRADE.
BRIAN MULRONEY DELIVERED A
PASSIONATE DELIVERY IN FRONT OF
LAWMAKERS TODAY.
>> WHO IN HIS RIGHT MIND WOULD
WANT TO -- IF I WERE THE SENATOR
FROM INDIANA AND SOMEBODY WANTED
TO PLACE THIS IN JEOPARDY IN MY
STATE, AND I'M SURE IT WOULD BE
YOUR ATTITUDE, THERE WOULD BE
ONE HELL OF A RUCKUS.
IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
WE CAN MODERNIZE NAFTA.
WE CAN IMPROVE IT.
WE CAN DO ALL KIND OF THINGS,
BUT WE SHOULD NOT THROW IT AWAY.
>> Ian: FOR ABOUT 1 1/2 HOURS,
MULRONEY TESTIFIED BEFORE A U.S.
SENATE COMMITTEE, TOUTING THE
BENEFITS OF THE FREE TRADE DEAL
FOR ALL SIDES.
MULRONEY WAS THE PRIME MINISTER
WHO NEGOTIATED FANAFTA AND WE KNOW
THAT HE'S BEEN ADVISING JUSTIN
TRUDEAU ON THE CURRENT FREE
TRADE TALKS.
>>> STILL AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL," A CBC NEWS EXCLUSIVE.
REVEALING STORIES FROM SO-CALLED
INDIAN HOSPITALS.
>> Rosemary: THE TRIAL IN THE
DEATH OF COLTEN BOUSHIE BEGINS.
WE TAKE YOU INTO THE HEART OF A
DIVIDED COMMUNITY.
>> Adrienne: AND NEW DETAILS ON
WHEN BRUCE MCARTHUR WAS ARRESTED
AND OUR IOANNA ROUMELIOTIS TELLS
US WHY SO MANY PEOPLE DIDN'T SEE
THE CHARGES COMING.
>> TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE
PERSON I MET.
I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD SAY, OK,
>> Premier Rachel Notley: THE
B.C. GOVERNMENT HAS THE RIGHT TO
RECONSULT BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE
THE RIGHT TO DO SO OVER ANY
LANDS IT HAS.
B.C. WANTS TO LOOK AT HOW OIL
SPILLS CAN BE CLEANED UP.
IT WOULD DELAY KINDER MORGAN'S
PLANS TO TRIPLE THE CAPACITY OF
THE PIPELINE BETWEEN EDMONTON
AND BURNABY, BRITISH COLUMBIA.
>>> IT WAS A RUMBLE AND WE
LOOKED OUT AND THE TREES WERE
COMING TOWARDS US.
>> Ian: AND HEAVY RAINFALL
CAUSING MORE DAMAGE ON B.C.'S
SOUTH COAST.
A BACKYARD RIPPED AWAY IN WHITE
ROCK.
NO ONE WAS HURT AND CREWS HAVE
BEEN WORKING TO STABILIZE THE
GROUND.
>> Adrienne: AS A POLICE SEARCH
FOR HUMAN REMAINS WIDENS IN
TORONTO AND BEYOND, WE HAVE NEW
DETAILS ABOUT ALLEGED SERIAL
KILLER BRUCE MCARTHUR.
A FORMER LOVER THAT CAN'T
BELIEVE WHAT MCARTHUR IS ACCUSED
OF.
>> Interview: I REALLY DON'T
KNOW IF I WOULD TALK TO HIM
AGAIN OR NOT.
I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S HARD TO SAY.
HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO ME.
DOES HE HAVE TWO PERSONALITIES?
>> Adrienne: WE'VE HEARD AGAIN
AND AGAIN HOW PEOPLE FOUND THIS
ACCUSED KILLER TO BE FRIENDLY
AND THOUGHTFUL.
IOANNA ROUMELIOTIS EXPLAINS THE
APPARENT CONTRADICTION IN HER
STORY TONIGHT, BUT FIRST, SHEDS
LIGHT ON A KEY TURNING POINT IN
THE CASE.
>> Reporter: IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A
QUESTION.
WHY DID POLICE ARREST BRUCE
MCARTHUR WHEN THEY DID?
NOW CBC NEWS HAS LEARNED THAT
OFFICERS MOVED IN AFTER
OBSERVING A MAN ENTER MCARTHUR'S
APARTMENT BUILDING.
WHEN POLICE BROKE IN, THEY FOUND
HIM IN RESTRAINTS.
THEY BELIEVED HE WAS IN IMMINENT
DANGER.
IT'S ANOTHER DETAIL IN A STORY
STILL EMERGING AS INVESTIGATORS
SCOUR THAT ARE APARTMENT FOR
EVIDENCE.
MCARTHUR WAS ACTIVE ON SEVERAL
DATING SITES.
ON SOME, LOOKING FOR FRIENDSHIP.
ON RECON, HE DESCRIBED HIMSELF
AS LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS
SUBMISSIVE.
>> Reporter: THE DATING PROFILES
IN AND OF THEMSELVES, A LOT OF
PEOPLE HAVE THESE FETISHES OR
INTERESTS, BUT WHEN YOU TAKE IT
IN THE CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING,
IT'S HARD TO IGNORE.
>> Reporter: CBC NEWS HAVE
INTERVIEWED THREE MEN WHO HAD
SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH
MCARTHUR AND SAID THAT THEY
STOPPED DATING HIM BECAUSE THEY
WERE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH SOME OF
THE SEX ACTS.
IT'S A DARK SIDE AND ONE THAT
HIS FRIENDS ARE STRUGGLING TO
BELIEVE.
>> Interview: WHEN I SAW THE
NEWS, I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
I STILL HAVE A HARD TIME
BELIEVING THAT HE COULD HAVE
DONE THAT.
>> Reporter: COCELYN LEMOINE
SPENT A ROMANTIC WEEKEND WITH
MCARTHUR.
NOT ONCE DID HE FEEL IN DANGER.
>> Interview: HE WAS A VERY
FRIENDLY GUY.
WE LAUGHED.
WE TALKED ABOUT ANYTHING.
AND JUST SPENDING A WEEKEND WITH
SOMEONE THAT YOU KNOW AND THAT
YOU CONNECT WELL AND JUST HAVING
FUN.
>> Reporter: THE SHEER
ORDINARINESS OF A MAN WHO WAS
ALSO A MALL SANTA IS STRIKING.
MCARTHUR'S FACEBOOK POSTS ARE
FILLED WITH RECIPES, EXCURSIONS
AND GET TOGETHER.
7 WAS KNOWN IN THE BARS OR
RESTAURANTS.
IF MCARTHUR IS INDEED A SERIAL
KILLER, HE'S A TYPICAL ONE.
>> THEY HIDE IN PLAIN SIGHT.
THEY ARE THE MOST UNLIKELY
PERSON THAT YOU WOULD THINK OF
IN A NEIGHBOURHOOD PERHAPS THAT
WOULD BE DOING SOMETHING LIKE
THIS.
>> Reporter: BACK AT THE
RESIDENCE, WHERE POLICE SEIZED
PLANTERS AND FOUND HUMAN REMAINS
OF AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE, POLICE
SOURCES TELL CBC NEWS THE PLAN
IS TO DIG UP THE BACKYARD.
POLICE HAVE TAKEN PLANTERS FROM
TWO OTHER HOMES IN MIDTOWN
TORONTO AND IN THE PROCESS OF
EXAMINING NEARLY A DOZEN IN ALL.
THE SEARCH FOR EVIDENCE HAS
EXPANDED TO THREE REGIONS
OUTSIDE THE CITY.
IOANNA ROUMELIOTIS, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: POLICE TELL US
THEY'VE RECEIVED DOZENS OF TIPS
FROM THE PUBLIC SINCE
YESTERDAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT OF NEW
CHARGES AGAINST BRUCE MCARTHUR.
>> Ian: JUST AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL," AT HOSPITALS FOR
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE, PATIENTS
SOMETIMES FACED MORE HARM THAN
HELP.
>> HE WOULD PULL THE CURTAIN
CLOSED BETWEEN OUR TWO BEDS.
I COULD HEAR WHAT HE WAS DOING
TO HER.
AND I WOULD ASK HER, ARE YOU ALL
RIGHT?
ARE YOU ALL RIGHT?
>> Ian: TODAY THEY'RE ASKING FOR
>> I'M 59 YEARS OLD.
I WENT IN THE HOSPITAL WHEN I
WAS 10.
I'M STILL DEALING WITH THE
AFTERMATH IN THIS.
>> Ian: THAT AFTERMATH THAT ANNE
HARDY EXPERIENCED AT THE CHARLES
CAMSELL INDIAN HOSPITAL IS
ETCHED IN HER MEMORY, PART OF A
CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT OF THE
SURVIVORS OF THE SO-CALLED
INDIAN HOSPITALS BETWEEN 1945
AND THE EARLY '80s.
THEY WERE RUN BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
>> I'VE LONG SINCE FINISHED THE
MEDICATION FOR THE TUBERCULOSIS.
I'M STILL DEALING WITH THE
AFTERMATH OF THE CHARLES CAMSELL
STAY.
>> Ian: THOUSANDS OF INDIGENOUS
PATIENTS WERE SENT TO THOSE
HOSPITALS.
AS LAUREN PELLEY TELLS US, MANY
SAY THE FACILITIES WERE RIFE
WITH ABUSE.
>> THE X-RAY TECHNICIAN WOULD
OFTEN GROPE US.
>> Reporter: ANNE HARDY WAS JUST
10 YEARS OLD WHEN SHE WAS
ADMITTED TO THE CHARLES CAMSELL
INDIAN HOSPITAL IN EDMONTON FOR
TUBERCULOSIS TREATMENT.
IT WAS 1969.
ONE MEMORY SHE CAN NEVER ERASE
IS A MALE STAFFER SEXUALLY
ASSAULTING HER PRE-TEEN
ROOMMATE.
>> HE WOULD PULL THE CURTAIN
CLOSED BETWEEN OUR TWO BEDS.
I COULD HEAR WHAT HE WAS DOING
TO HER.
I WOULD ASK HER, ARE YOU ALL
RIGHT?
ARE YOU ALL RIGHT?
AND THERE'S NOTHING I COULD DO
TO STOP IT.
I REALISE THAT NOW.
BUT FOR MANY YEARS, I FELT
GUILTY ABOUT THIS.
>> Reporter: SURVIVORS OF
GOVERNMENT-RUN INDIAN HOSPITALS
HAVE SHARED STORIES OF ALLEGED
MISTREATMENT AND ABUSE,
EXPERIENCES MANY SAY OF THAT
LEFT THEM TRAUMATIZED FOR
DECADES, MUCH LIKE THE SURVIVORS
OF RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS.
TWO CANADIAN LAW FIRMS HAVE
FILED A $1 BILLION CLASS-ACTION
LAWSUIT ON BEHALF OF FORMER
PATIENTS.
THE SUIT WANTS THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT TO RECOGNIZE THAT
CANADA WAS NEGLIGENT IN THE
OPERATION OF THE SO-CALLED
GOVERNMENT HOSPITALS.
>> THE PATIENTS WERE SUBJECT TO
PHYSICAL AND SEXUAL ABUSE AND
TIED TO THEIR BEDS AND THAT DID
NOT HAPPEN IN NONINDIGENOUS
HOSPITALS.
>> Reporter: SOMETIMES WHAT IS
NEEDED IS AN APOLOGY AND
DIALOGUE.
>> WE WANT JUSTICE TO BE DONE.
THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS
DETERMINED TO RIGHT WRONGS AND
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A
DARK CHAPTER IN CANADA'S
HISTORY.
>> Reporter: THIS ISN'T JUST
HISTORY FOR ANNE HARDY.
>> THEY GAVE US TREATMENT TO
CURE OUR ILLNESS, BUT THEY
CAUSED ANOTHER IN THE WAKE.
AND MANY, MANY PEOPLE ARE LIVING
WITH THIS STILL.
>> Reporter: LAUREN PELLEY, CBC
NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Ian: THE FIRST DAY OF
TESTIMONY HAS WRAPPED UP AT THE
TRIAL OF GERALD STANLEY, A CASE
THAT'S EXPOSED RACIAL TENSIONS
IN RURAL SASKATCHEWAN.
THE FARMER HAS PLEADED NOT
GUILTY IN THE SHOOTING DEATH OF
AN INDIGENOUS MAN, COLTEN
BOUSHIE.
>> THERE'S NO GOOD DAYS IN
SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
IT'S TERRIBLE TO DEAL WITH, BUT
GOOD TO GET THE EVIDENCE
STARTING TO FLOW.
>> Ian: BOUSHIE AND HIS FRIENDS
SHOWED UP IN AN SUV AND STAN
LIPL
STANLEY'S SON WILL TESTIFY THAT
THEY THOUGHT THAT HE AND HIS
FRIENDS WERE TRYING TO STEAL A
QUAD VEHICLE.
THE FIRST TWO WITNESSES TODAY
WERE RCMP OFFICERS.
BOUSHIE'S DEATH HAS SPLIT THE
LOCAL COMMUNITY.
AS OLIVIA STEPANOVIC TELLS US,
IT'S HIGHLIGHTING TENSIONS
BETWEEN FARMERS AND THE
COMMUNITY.
>> HERE'S AN EAGLE FAN AND I
BRING IT IN AND THIS IS FOR
TRUTH AND JUSTICE.
>> Reporter: HE'S SEEKING
JUSTICE FOR HIS 22-YEAR-OLD
NEPHEW, 22-YEAR-OLD COLTEN
BOUSHIE, WHO WAS SHOT HERE.
THE PROPERTY IS FOR SALE.
THE HOUSE EMPTY.
SECURED BY A METAL FENCE, A
REMINDER OF ALL THE LIVES
AFFECTED ON A SUMMER DAY 1 1/2
YEARS AGO.
THIS IS THE PLACE AT THE HEART
OF THE TRIAL.
WHAT HAPPENED HERE ON AUGUST 9,
2016, IS THE CENTRAL QUESTION
FOR JURORS.
HOW COLTEN BOUSHIE AND HIS
FRIENDS ENDED UP ON GERALD
STANLEY'S PROPERTY AND WHY
BOUSHIE WAS SHOT AND KILLED OF
THE CROWN IS STARTING TO PAINT
THAT PICTURE, SHOWING THE JURORS
PICTURES FROM THE RCMP, PICTURES
THAT WERE GRAPHIC, SHOWING
BOUSHIE BLOODY, FACE FIRST ON
STANLEY'S GRAVEL DRIVEWAY.
>> IT'S BEEN HARD FOR US TO SIT
HERE AND HEAR -- JUST TO BE IN
THERE.
>> Reporter: THAT'S HOW MANY
PEOPLE IN SASKATCHEWAN FEEL.
BOUSHIE'S FAMILY AND SUPPORTERS
SAY THIS CASE SYMBOLIZES THE
RACIAL DIVIDE IN CANADA.
THEY'RE TROUBLED THAT THERE ARE
NO VISIBLY IDENTIFIED INDIGENOUS
JURORS HEARING THE CASE.
STANLEY'S ATTORNEY SAID IT'S NOT
A REFERENDUM ON RACISM, BUT IT'S
POLARIZING FOR MANY.
>> WE DON'T THINK IT'S A RACIAL
ISSUE AT ALL.
>> Reporter: THE RURAL COMMUNITY
IS PAYING ATTENTION.
>> WE'RE HOPING SOME GOOD CAN
COME OUT OF THIS, IF THERE IS
ANY WAY THAT GOOD WILL COME OUT
OF THIS.
IT WILL BE TO BETTER EDUCATE THE
PUBLIC ON WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE
AS PRIVATE LANDOWNERS.
>> Reporter: AFTER COURT TODAY,
SUPPORTERS EMBRACED BOUSHIE'S
FAMILY.
>> I WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO
COME OUT FOR THEMSELVES, COME
BEAR WITNESS AND HEAR IT FOR
YOURSELF AS EVERYTHING UNFOLDS.
JUST TO BE PRESENT.
>> Reporter: DIFFICULT AND
EMOTIONAL, BUT THIS IS JUST THE
BEGINNING.
>> WE'LL BE HERE TOMORROW AND
EVERY DAY AFTER.
>> Reporter: OVERWHELM 5A
STEPANOVIC, CBC NEWS,
BATTLEFORD, SASKATCHEWAN.
>> Ian: BOUSHIE'S FAMILY IS
UPSET THAT NO INDIGENOUS PEOPLE
WERE CHOSEN FOR THE JURY.
IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THE
PRIMARY CONCERN WOULD BE HAVING
A JURY THAT'S IMPARTIAL AND FAIR
TO THE ACCUSED.
AND IN THIS CASE, LAWYERS FOR
BOTH THE PROSECUTION AND DEFENCE
REJECTED PROSPECTIVE JURORS OF
VARIOUS ETHNICITIES.
>> IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO SIT
THERE TODAY AND WATCH EVERY
SING
SINGLE VISIBLE INDIGENOUS PERSON
BE CHALLENGED BY THE DEFENCE.
IT'S NOT SURPRISING, BUT
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING.
>> Ian: BEING TRIED BY A JURY OF
PEERS IS A CORNERSTONE OF
CANADIAN JUSTICE.
TWO YEARS AGO, THE SUPREME COURT
OF CANADA WEIGHED IN ON WHAT
THAT MEANT.
COURTS HAVE TO MAKE A REASONABLE
EFFORT TO FIND JURIES
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
COMMUNITY.
THERE IS NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT
THAT A CASE INVOLVING INDIGENOUS
PEOPLE MUST BE INDIGENOUS
PEOPLE.
PERFECTION IS NOT REQUIRED.
IN THIS CASE, A JURY POOL OF 200
PEOPLE SHOWED UP.
SEVEN WOMEN AND FIVE MEN HAVE
BEEN CHOSEN AND WILL DETERMINE
WHETHER TO ACQUIT OR CONVICT
GERALD STANLEY.
>> Adrienne: TO THE U.K. NOW.
WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SECRET
REPORT ON ECONOMICS OF BREXIT IS
A NIGHTMARE FOR THERESA MAY.
>> IT'S A COVER-UP, PURE AND
SIMPLE.
>> Adrienne: IF BRITAIN MANAGES
TO KEEP HIS ACCESS TO EUROPE AS
ONE SINGLE MARKET, ECONOMIC
GROWTH WOULD BE WEAKENED BY 2%
THAT'S BEST-CASE.
UNDER A COMPREHENSIVE FREE TRADE
DEAL WITH THE E.U., WEAKER BY
5%.
AND WITH NO DEAL, GROWTH WOULD
BE ROED -- BE SLOWED BY 8%.
AND THOMAS DAIGLE TELLS US, IT'S
ABOUT SELLING BREXIT TO SO MANY
NAYSAYERS.
>> Reporter: RARELY HAS THE
FUTURE SEEMED SO UNSURE.
WITH BREXIT COVERING PRACTICALLY
EVERY DEBATE THESE DAYS.
MPs WENT AT IT AGAIN, THIS TIME
OVER THE PAPER NEVER MEANT TO BE
PUBLISHED.
>> THE ARTICLE IS A PRELIMINARY
ANALYSIS, AN ATTEMPT TO
UNDERMINE OUR EXIT FROM THE E.U.
>> Reporter: A GOVERNMENT
MINISTER DISTANCING HIMSELF FROM
GOVERNMENT RESEARCH, MAYBE
BECAUSE ALL OUTCOMES LOOK BAD,
OR BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT SWORE
IT HAD NO SUCH RESEARCH TO BEGIN
WITH.
>> ANALYSIS HAS BEEN PRODUCED
AFTER ALL.
THIS IS NOW PILING ABSURDITY
UPON ABSURDITY.
>> Reporter: THIS IS THE SCENE
EVE
EVERY DAY OUTSIDE PARLIAMENT, A
FEW DEMONSTRATORS DEMANDING IS
THAT THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT HAVE
TIES WITH THE E.U.
THE LEAKED REPORT ONLY SERVES TO
EMBOLDEN THEM.
>> IT'S GOING TO FORCE THE PRIME
MINISTER TO TAKE A CLEAR
POSITION OF EXACTLY WHAT SHE
FEELS BECAUSE SHE'S TRIED TO
RIDE TWO HORSES.
IT'S ALMOST CERTAIN THERE WILL
BE A CHALLENGE TO HER LEADERSHIP
BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
>> ARE YOU STILL IN CONTROL?
>> Reporter: THERESA MAY
ATTENDING TO BIDS AT 10 DOWNING
STREET, ACCUSED OF PANDERING TO
PANDERAN
HER OWN PARTY.
>> PUT IT IN THE BIN.
JUST GET ON AND WE LEAVE EXACTLY
AS WE SAID WE WOULD LEAVE.
>> Reporter: THE BREXITEERS
POINT OUT THAT PREVIOUS
FORECASTING HAS BEEN WRONG.
THEY HOPE THE GLOOMY SKY WILL
ONLY MEAN PASSING CLOUDS.
THOMAS DAIGLE, CBC NEWS, LONDON.
>> Adrienne: THERE'S A QUIET
MOVEMENT IN IRAN THAT'S GETTING
LOUDER.
PEOPLE ARE TAKING OFF THEIR HEAD
SCARVES AND WAVING THEM IN THE
STREETS, NOT IN PROTEST OF THE
HIJAB ITSELF, BUT IRAN'S
DECADES-OLD LAW DEMANDING THAT
WOMEN WEAR IT.
HERE'S AN IMAGE YOU MAY HAVE
SEEN, MILLIONS HAVE.
IT LOOKS LIKE SURRENDER, BUT
IT'S NOT.
STANDING ON A POWER BOX, HER
HEAD SCARF ON THAT STICK IS
VIDA MOVAHED, THE TEHRAN ROAD
WHERE THIS HAPPENED.
SHE DISAPPEARED SOON AFTER,
ARRESTED.
>> THEY ARRESTED VIDA BECAUSE
THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD STOP
OTHER WOMEN.
>> Adrienne: VIDA TOOK THE
CHANCE BECAUSE OF AN ON-LINE
CAMPAIGN CALLED "MY STEALTHY
FREEDOM."
IT URGES WOMEN TO SHARE STORIES
WITHOUT A HIJAB.
MASIH ALINEJAD STARTED THAT
CAMPAIGN.
>> THERE ARE MILLIONS OF WOMEN
ARE TIRED OF HAVING A DOUBLE
LIFE.
YOU ARE NOT FIGHTING AGAINST A
PIECE OF CLOTH.
WE'RE FIGHTING FOR OUR DIGNITY,
OUR IDENTITY.
>> Adrienne: THAT ARREST LAST
MONTH SPARKED AN OUTCRY.
#WHEREISSHE TOOK OFF?
SHE'S BEEN RELEASED.
>> THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN
DANGER.
THEY KNOW IT'S A PUNISHABLE
CRIME.
THEY KNOW THEY MAY FACE JAIL,
BUT THEY'RE DOING IT.
WHY?
BECAUSE THEY'RE TIRED OF THE
HIJAB.
>> Adrienne: THE GIRLS, PLURAL,
ARE ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA, ONE,
THEN ANOTHER, THEN MORE, NEW
PICTURES ALMOST EVERY DAY.
IT'S SINGLE DISPLAYS OF
DEFIANCE, STRENGTH, STANDING ON
THEIR OWN POWER BOXES.
>> Rosemary: UP NEXT, DONALD
TRUMP'S FIRST STATE OF THE UNION
ADDRESS.
WHAT DOES HE SAY?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
AND SHOULD AMERICANS BELIEVE IT?
WE'LL DIG INTO THAT WITH TWO
>> President Trump: SO TO EVERY
CITIZEN WATCHING AT HOME
TONIGHT, NO MATTER WHERE YOU'VE
BEEN OR WHERE YOU'VE COME FROM,
THIS IS YOUR TIME.
IF YOU WORK HARD, IF YOU BELIEVE
IN YOURSELF, IF YOU BELIEVE IN
AMERICA, THEN YOU CAN DREAM
ANYTHING.
YOU CAN BE ANYTHING.
AND TOGETHER WE CAN ACHIEVE
ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
>> Rosemary: THAT WAS DONALD
TRUMP ADDRESSING CONGRESS IN HIS
FIRST STATE OF THE UNION WITH A
MESSAGE THAT IS MAYBE A BIT RARE
FOR HIM, ONE OF UNITY.
IT WAS LONG.
WITH US TONIGHT, PHILLIP BUMP AND
KEN VOGEL.
DID HE NAIL ANYTHING?
IS THERE A CHANCE THAT IT MAY
LEAD TO SOMETHING?
>> Interview: SHORT ANSWER, NO.
THERES NO INCENTIVE FOR
DEMOCRATS IT COME TO THE TABLE.
ON THE ISSUES WHERE HE DID REACH
OUT, IMMIGRATION.
HE TALKED ABOUT A BIPARTISAN
DEAL TO EXTEND A PATHWAY TO
CITIZENSHIP TO 1.8 MILLION
DREAMERS, IMMIGRANTS BROUGHT TO
THE U.S. AS CHILDREN ILLEGALLY
BY THEIR PARENTS.
IT'S A MAJOR DEMOCRATIC ISSUE
THAT THE LIBERAL BASE HAS REALLY
SEIZED ON.
THERE ARE 12 MILLION OF THOSE
FOLKS HERE, SO EXTENDING THE
PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP FOR 1.8
MILLION WILL NOT APPEASE
DEMOCRATS, LIBERALS, AND IT WILL
UPSET THOSE ON HIS BASE THAT
WANT TO SEE A HARDER LINE.
FOR FOLKS ON HIS BASE, HE TALKED
ABOUT HAVING FUNDING FOR A WALL
ON THE U.S.-MEXICO BORDER.
SOME DEMOCRATS MAY BE AMEANABLE
TO IT, BUT ONLY IF THEY GET MORE
IN TERMS OF DREAMERS
7 TALKED ABOUT ENDING THE VISA
LOTTERY, THIS IS WHERE HE SAID
THAT PEOPLE ARE GRANTED VISAS
THROUGH NO MERIT, JUST RANDOM
DRAWING.
IT'S NOT QUITE THAT SIMPLE, BUT
THAT'S HOW HE CHARACTERIZED IT,
AND ALSO ENDING CHAIN MIGRATION.
THOSE TWO THINGS ARE NOT GOING
TO BE THINGS THAT DEMOCRATS WILL
BE WILLING TO WORK WITH.
SO ON THAT ONE ISSUE, YOU SEE A
MICROCOSM OF HOW DIFFICULT IT IS
TO REALLY BRING DEMOCRATS TO THE
TABLE IN THIS CHALLENGING, AND
REALLY POLARIZED POLITICAL
ENVIRONMENT.
>> Rosemary: PHILIP, LET ME PLAY
A CLIP ABOUT THAT MESSAGE ON
IMMIGRATION AND THEN GET YOUR
THOUGHTS ON WHETHER IT'S ENOUGH
TO BRING TWO SIDES TOGETHER.
>> Interview: I THINK THE POINT
KEN MAKES IS CORRECT, BUT THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE
SUBTEXT OF WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS
SAYING.
HE DOES NOT SAY THAT HE WANTS
AMERICANS TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
HE SAID HE WANTS CITIZENS TO BE
SUCCESSFUL.
HE SAID THE CHAIN MIGRATION --
HE MAKES A FALSE STATEMENT ABOUT
WHAT CHAIN MIGRATION CAN DO.
HE USES UNTRUE CHARACTERIZATIONS
OF THE EXISTING POLICY AND HE'S
PROBABLY THE MOST DIVISIVE THING
HE SAID IN THE SPEECH, AMERICANS
ARE DREAMERS, TOO.
WHICH HE REFERRED TO THE DREAMER
AS 1.8 MILLION DREAMERS AS
OTHERS, NON-AMERICANS, BUT
USURPED WHAT WAS SAID ABOUT
THEM.
SO FOR A PRESIDENT THAT SAID, I
WANT TO GIVE A SPEECH THAT
UNITES AMERICA, THESE WERE WAYS
IN WHICH HE DEMONSTRATED THE
DIVISIVENESS THAT AMERICANS ARE
REFLECTING WHEN HALF THE
COUNTRY, MORE THAN HALF THE
COUNTRY, SAID, THEY DISAPPROVE
OF THE JOB HE'S DOING.
>> Rosemary: I LIKE THAT PHILIP
CALLED YOU MR. VOGEL, SO I GUESS
I HAVE TO AS WELL.
HE TALKED ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY,
U.S. RESTORING FRIENDSHIPS AND
ALSO MAKING CLEAR ADVERSARIES,
BUT HE ONLY MENTIONED IRAN AND
NORTH KOREA.
MR. VOGEL, WHAT SHOULD WE READ
INTO THAT IN TERMS OF A GEO
POLITICAL APPROACH TO FOREIGN
POLICY?
>> Interview: WELL, THERE WERE
NOT A LOT OF SPECIFICS THERE.
THE ONE THING HE DID SAY ON THE
IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL IS THAT HE
WANTED CONGRESS TO RENEGOTIATE.
HE'S RAILED AGAINST THIS DEAL.
IT'S'S BAD DEAL.
AT VARIOUS POINTS HE SUGGESTED
THAT HE MIGHT DECERTIFY IT.
BUT HE KEEPS ON PUTTING IT BACK
IN CONGRESS'S LAP.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO
BE A WHOLE LOT OF APPETITE FOR
THE PARTIES TO COME TOGETHER AND
HAMMER OUT A NEW DEAL.
I THINK WE'RE KIND OF STUCK WITH
THE ONE WHEN HAVE ON NORTH
KOREA.
YOU HEARD A LOT OF TALK.
HE HAD MULTIPLE GUESTS WHO WERE
INVITED TO THE STATE OF THE
UNION TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT WHAT
HE HAS CAST AS WHAT REALLY THE
INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY BELIEVES
IN THAT INTRANSIENT, SORT OF
RECLUSIVE NUCLEAR POWER IN NORTH
KOREA, BUT WE DIDN'T HEAR A LOT
OF SPECIFICS THERE.
WE DID HEAR BRIEF MENTIONS OF
CHINA AND RUSSIA'S ADVERSARIES.
5 THINK IT PERKED UP A LOT OF
EARS.
FOLKS WANTED TO HEAR MORE,
CERTAINLY ABOUT RUSSIA, GIVE ARE
THE INVESTIGATION OF RUSSIAN
MEDDLING IN THE U.S. ELECTION,
WHICH IS LOOMING OVER HIS ENTIRE
PRESIDENCY.
WE DIDN'T HEAR A LOT OF
SPECIFICS THERE.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DEMOCRATS
INTEND TO HAMMERHEADED INTO THE
MID TERM ELECTION.
>> Rosemary: I WANT TO PLAY A
CLIP A LITTLE SELFISHLY FOR
CANADIANS ABOUT WHAT HE SAID
ABOUT TRADE.
7 DOESN'T SAY THE WORD NAFTA BUT
DID SAY THIS.
>> President Trump: AMERICA HAS
FINALLY TURNED THE PAGE ON
DECADES OF UNFAIR TRADE DEALS
THAT SACRIFICED OUR PROSPERITY
AND CHIPPED AWAY OUR COMPANIES,
OUR JOBS, AND OUR WEALTH.
OUR NATION HAS LOST ITS WEALTH,
BUT WE'RE GETTING IT BACK SO
FAST.
THE ERA OF ECONOMIC SURRENDER IS
TOTALLY OVER.
FROM NOW ON, WE EXPECT TRADING
RELATIONSHIPS TO BE FAIR AND
VERY IMPORTANTLY RECIPROCAL.
>> Rosemary: PHILIP BUMP, IF YOU
ARE CANADA AND IN THE MIDst OF
RENEGOTIATING NAFTA, WHAT DO YOU
THINK ABOUT THAT MESSAGE?
TYPICAL OR ANYTHING HE CAN WITH
READ INTO IT?
>> Interview: IT'S PRETTY
TYPICAL FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN FAIR AND
RECIPROCAL?
DONALD TRUMP RECOGNIZED THAT
NAFTA WAS AN EVENTIVE WEDGE FOR
A PARTICULAR GROUP OF VOTERS
THAT ENDED UP MAKING THE
DIFFERENCE IN HIS PRESIDENTIAL
CAMPAIGN, AS IT TURNS OUT, BUT
HE'S A PRODUCT OF THE GLOBALIZED
ECONOMY.
HE HAS BENEFITED FROM FREE TRADE
AGREEMENTS AROUND THE WORLD.
SO IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT HE MEANS
WHEN HE SAID FAIR AND
RECIPROCAL, BEYOND THAT HE
UNDERSTANDS THAT TRADE IS A
TALKING POINT FOR HIS BASE.
AND HE TALKED TO HIS BASE A LOT
IN THIS SPEECH.
IF YOU ARE JUSTIN TRUDEAU
SITTING DOWN TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT TO MAKE OF THIS, I'M
NOT SURE THERE'S A LOT TO GLEAN
THAT WILL HELP IN YOUR
NEGOTIATIONS MOVING FORWARD
>> Rosemary: LET ME END ON THIS.
IF THIS WAS A DIFFERENT TONE
THAT WE USUALLY HEAR FROM THE
PRESIDENT AND SUPPOSED TO BE
ABOUT UNITY, DOES IT MATTER IF
WE WAKE UP AT 6:00 A.M. SEEING
TWEETS DOING SOMETHING ENTIRELY
DIFFERENT?
KEN AND THEN PHILIP?
>> Interview: ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S DONALD TRUMP.
IT'S A RARE AND UNPRECEDENTED
THING TO HAVE A GLIMPSE INTO HIS
STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS IN THE
WAY THAT HE IS THINKING ABOUT
THESE ISSUES, IN MUCH MORE
GRANULAR DETAIL AND MUCH MORE
COMBATIVE THAN WE SEE IN A
SPEECH LIKE THIS, CRAFTED BY HIS
AIDES IN AN EFFORT TO PRESENT A
UNIFIED AND EVEN BIPARTISAN
APPROACH, THAT'S AND ANANTHEMA
IT WHAT WE REALLY KNOW FROM HIS
TWITTER FEED.
>> Interview: IT COULD HAVE GONE
TWO WAYS, BE FINE OR A DISASTER.
IT WAS FINE.
PEOPLE HEAR 40 TIMES AS OFTEN
FROM DONALD TRUMP IN INTERVIEWS
AND ON TWITTER SAYING
DISPARAGING THINGS ABOUT THE
THINGS THEY BELIEVE IN AND
THEY'RE CORE VALUES
THAT'S WHY HIS APPROVAL IS SO
LOW.
THIS SPEECH TONIGHT, A
RUN-OF-THE-MILL SPEECH WILL NOT
PUSH HIM ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.
>> Rosemary: KEN VOGEL, PHILIP
BUMP, THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
I KNOW YOU HAVE A LONG NIGHT
AHEAD OF WRITING, SO I
APPRECIATE IT.
IN THE SPEECHES, MESSAGING IS
EVERYTHING.
WE HEARD SOME WORDS OVER AND
OVER AGAIN.
TOPPING THAT LIST, AMERICAN,
VARIATIONS ON THAT THEME,
A
>> Ian: NO MATTER WHO IS IN THE
WHITE HOUSE, THE STATE OF THE
UNION IS ALWAYS FODDER FOR
COMEDIANS, BUT ONE LATE NIGHT
HOST PUT THE JEKZ ASIDE AND
CONFRONTED ONE OF AMERICA'S MOST
PRESSING ISSUES.
>> DO YOU KNOW IF SHE GOES BACK,
IT COULD TAKE 10 YEARS FOR HER
TO GET HER GREEN CARD.
>> I WOULD GET AN IMMIGRATION
ATTORNEY.
>> WE DO HAVE ONE.
>> AND THAT'S WHAT THE
IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY TOLD YOU.
>> WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE, BUT
YOU WILL AGREE THAT WE LIVE IN A
COMPASSIONATE, LOVING COUNTRY.
>> NO, I DON'T AGREE.
I THINK THIS COUNTRY HAS BECOME
CRUEL.
>> Ian: THIS IS EXTRAORDINARY.
JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE PUTTING TRUMP
SUPPORTERS PUTTING DACA
RECIPIENTS IN THE SAME ROOM.
A WOMAN WHO CAME HERE AT 2 YEARS
OLD, AT RISK OF BEING SENT BACK
TO MEXICO.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO IMAGINE THE
PRESIDENT IS WATCHING NOW.
>> I DON'T WANT TO IMAGINE HIM.
>> Ian: AND THIS IS THE VIDEO
THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE TUNING
IN FOR.
ADULT FILM STAR STORMY DANIELS
HAS DOMINATED HEADLINES EVER
SINCE "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL"
REPORTED THAT SHE WAS PAID TO
KEEP QUIET ABOUT AN AFFAIR.
THE PRESIDENT DENIES THE AFFAIR.
>> Rosemary: THE PRESIDENT'S
STATE OF THE UNION IS OFFICIALLY
OVER, BUT IT TOOK A WHILE.
>> President Trump: MR. VICE
PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.
GOD BLESS AMERICA.
GOOD NIGHT.
>> Rosemary: THAT WAS 1 HOUR AND
20 MINUTES LONG FROM THE FIRST
SENTENCE TO THE TRADITIONAL
ENDING.
IT RANKS AS THE THIRD LONGEST
ADDRESS SINCE THEY STARTED TO
KEEP RECORD.
AND THIS, PERHAPS WILL IRK
DONALD TRUMP A LITTLE BIT,
BECAUSE HE DOESN'T PARTICULARLY
LIKE THIS FAMILY, CLINTON, BILL
CLINTON HOLDS THE TOP TWO SPOTS,
2000, 1 HOUR, 28 MINUTES.
AND 1995, 1 HOUR, 24 MINUTES.
>> Adrienne: THERE IS A RECORD
HE WILL LIKE.
HE BROKE A TWITTER RECORD,
THE MOST TWEETED STATE OF THE
UNION OR JOINT SESSION, PASSING
LAST YEAR'S STATE OF THE UNION,
WHICH WAS HIT, 3 MILLION.
>> Ian: MAYBE IT WAS A GOOD
SPEECH
WHEN WERE HERE LIVE, SO I MAY
HAVE MISSED IT.
BUT I THINK BACK IT UNDERGRAD
WHEN I HAD A LOT OF WORDS AND
MAYBE MORE AND MORE WORDS HID
SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T HAVE
MUCH TO SAY.
>> Rosemary: WE LEARNED
SOMETHING ABOUT YOU TONIGHT.
>> Adrienne: EVERY NIGHT.
>> Rosemary: THAT'S THE NATIONAL
FOR JANUARY 30.
GOOD NIGHT.
>> Ian: GOOD NIGHT.
>> Adrienne: GOOD NIGHT.
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