OPPONENTS OF THE TRUMP CARE BILL HAVE REPEATEDLY HAMMERED
HOME SOME OF WHAT WE BELIEVE WILL BE THE WORST EFFECTS
IF THE BILL BECOMES A LAW AND SO FAR, A LOT OF REPUBLICANS
AND CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATORS ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT.
WE'RE GOING TO CATCH YOU UP ON SOME OF THE CRITIQUES OF
THE BILL, LET'S SEE IF YOU RECOGNIZE THE SPACES.
MEDICAID IS THE PROGRAM IN THIS COUNTRY THAT PROVIDES
HEALTH INSURANCE TO ONE IN FIVE AMERICANS,TO 30 MILLION
KIDS, TO NEARLY 2 OUT OF EVERY THREE PEOPLE IN A NURSING HOME.
THESE CUTS ARE BLOOD MONEY.
PEOPLE WILL DIE.
LET'S BE VERY CLEAR.
SCENTED SENATE REPUBLICANS ARE PAYING FOR TAX CUTS FOR THE
WEALTHY WITH AMERICAN LIVES.
WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PROPOSAL DOES IS THROW 23 MILLION
AMERICANS OFF OF HEALTH INSURANCE.
WHAT HARVARD UNIVERSITY, WHAT A PART OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY
AND THE SCIENTISTS THERE DETERMINED IS WHEN YOU THROW
23 MILLION PEOPLE OFF OF HEALTH INSURANCE, PEOPLE WITH
CANCER, HEART DISEASE, DIABETES, THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE.
I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY IT.
THIS IS NOT ME, THIS A STUDY AFTER STUDY MAKING THIS POINT.
IT IS COMMON SENSE.
IF YOU HAVE CANCER AND YOUR INSURANCE IS TAKEN AWAY
FROM YOU, THERE IS A LIKELIHOOD YOU WILL DIE AND CERTAINLY A
LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU WILL BECOME MUCH SICKER THEN YOU ARE TODAY.
THAT IS THE FAX.
THERE YOU SEE ELIZABETH WARREN AND BERNIE SANDERS.
WE SAID MUCH THE SAME THING FOR A VERY LONG TIME HERE IN
THE PROGRAM AND WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK TO THE FACTS
UNDERLINING THOSE CLAIMS IN JUST A LITTLE BIT BUT AS I
ALLUDED TO AN INTRO, REPUBLICANS DON'T LIKE WHEN YOU POINT
WITH ABILITY AND SO IT HAS LED TO WEBSITE ARTICLES LIKE
THIS, TOP DEMOCRATS SAY AMERICANS WILL DIE FROM
OBAMACARE OVERHAUL PASSED BY GOP HOUSE.
FROM THE DAILY CALLER TARGETING BERNIE SANDERS, WE'RE
FREAKING OUT OVER THE FACT THAT 22 MINE LOSER HEALTH INSURANCE.
NEW GREEN GRANTS COLUMN DEMOCRATS LYING TO SAVE
OBAMACARE.
AND HAS A STOP SO WE ALSO HAVE JULIE BANDERAS, AN ANCHOR
FROM FOX IN THIS CLIP.
I WANT TO FIRST OF ALL TALK ABOUT WHAT THE DEMOCRATS
HAVE DONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE SCARED MANY AMERICANS,
ROYAL AMERICANS PLACING TENS OF BILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE
GOING TO LOSE THEIR INSURANCE.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE.
I GOT THE CBO REPORT RIGHT HERE.
IT IS 49 PAGES LONG AND I READ IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE READ IT BUT I
WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT IS SAYS BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT
THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT POTENTIALLY WILL BE UNINSURED
UNDER THE GOP PLAN AND ACCORDING TO THIS IT IS ESTIMATED THAT IN
2018 15 MILLION MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE UNINSURED UNDER
THIS LEGISLATION THAN UNDER THE CURRENT LAW PRIMARILY AND I
WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WERE PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE
PENALTY FOR NOT HAVING INSURANCE WOULD BE ELIMINATED.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE SUBSIDIES THAT WILL MAKE IT
AFFORDED WILL ALSO BE ILLUMINATED SO SHE IS GOING
TO FOCUS ON THE PAR OBVIOUSLY THAT SHE LIKES BUT THERE,
WE ARE BEING UNFAIR BY FOCUSING ON THE TESTS THAT ARE LIKELY
TO RESULT FROM PEOPLE BEING THIRD OF THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE.
VERSUS NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT BANDERAS IS A NEWS
ANCHOR FOR FOX NEWS SHE IS NOT AN OPINION HOST, HENRY WILL
SAY I DO COMMENTARY AND I THINK THAT IS FAIR.
NOW THEY HAVE TAKEN AWAY FOR BALANCE, GOOD.
AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT LYING IN MORE, IT IS A CONSERVATIVE
NEWS STATION.
BUT THEY STILL PRETEND THAT THEIR NEWS ANCHORS TO
STRAIGHT NEWS.
OR SHE IS, THOSE DASTARDLY DEMOCRATS GREASY SCARING
PEOPLE SAYING THAT IF YOU LOSER HEALTH INSURANCE, YOU MIGHT DIE.
OF COURSE YOU COULD.
OKAY, OTHER THAN COMMON SENSE, LET'S BEGIN TO BREAK IT DOWN.
PART OF THEIR ATTACK AGAINST SANDERS, WARREN, AND DEMOCRATS
IS LOOK AT HOW UNCIVIL THEY ARE BEING.
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE DYING.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT, YOU ARE GETTING PEOPLE RILED UP.
LOOK, IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FREE COLLEGE, THIS IS SUPER
IMPORTANT ISSUE, BUT THERE IS NO ONE'S LIFE ON THE LINE
GENERALLY SPEAKING.
IF YOU STRETCH THAT THE PEOPLE ARE DYING, THAT IS WRONG.
THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO GO AND I CAN GIVE YOU 1000 OBVIOUS
EXAMPLES BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ISSUES OF THE GOVERNMENT
DEALS WITH THAT ARE DEFINITELY CLEARLY LIFE-AND-DEATH.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE IS A RIGHT OR WRONG DECISION AND THAT
IS WHY WE DEBATE THESE THINGS AND WE HAVE A STRONG OPINION ONE
DIRECTION BUT IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WAR FOR EXAMPLE AND YOU
SAY BECAUSE OF THAT, PEOPLE WILL DIE.
THAT IS LITERALLY TRUE.
YOU ARE BEING HYSTERICAL.
YOU ARE BEING HYPERBOLIC.
IT'S LIKE THOSE PROTESTERS FOR THE VIETNAM WAR.
THEY SAY WE GO TO VIETNAM, THOUSANDS WILL DIE.
YOU ARE BEING HYSTERICAL.
LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO GO TO THE MIDDLE OF A JUNGLE AND HAVE
A WAR, YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE?
OF COURSE, THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS IN A WAR AND IF YOU HAVE
HEALTHCARE AND THE NEW GET SICK, FOR EXAMPLE, CANCER, WILL
YOU DIE?
YEAH, THAT IS KIND OF HOW CANCER WORKS.
I THINK IN THIS CASE YOU MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO FAIR TO
HER BECAUSE SHE DID FOCUS ON THE CLAIMS ABOUT THE DEBT BUT SHE
ALSO SAID THAT SHE DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LOSE THE HEALTH INSURANCE WHETHER OR
NOT THEY WOULD DIE OR NOT THE FACT THAT WE ARE POINTING
OUT THE 22,000 PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE.
BERNIE SANDERS AND READ THE REPORT, THE CBO DID.
AND IN DOUBLE CHUMS COMMENTS, SAYING WERE MAKING
JUDGMENTS BEFORE WE WRITE IT.
IT'S A SIMILAR TO THE HOUSE BILL, INVESTMENTS AND HOW
MANY WILL LOSE HEALTH INSURANCE ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS AT THAT POINT BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE
ARE SAYING IT IS NOT BASED ON ANYTHING, IT IS JUST LIES.
BERNIE SANDERS AND ELIZABETH WARREN ARE EXAGGERATING.
LET'S GO OVER SOME OF THE EVIDENCE THAT POLITICIZED
LOOKED INTO THIS INCLUDING REACHING OUT OUT TO THE
BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN ABOUT THE STUDIES HE TALKED ABOUT
THE VIDEO YOU JUST SAW AND ONE OF THEM BY THE HARVARD
CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS PROJECTED AN ADDITIONAL
217,000 DEATHS UNDER THE NEXT DECADE OR 21,700 PER YEAR.
THE SECOND PIECE OF EVIDENCE ESTIMATED THAT THERE WOULD
BE ALMOST 44,000 DEATHS ANNUALLY DUE TO THE GOP'S HEALTH
POLICY CHANGES AND THAT INITIAL ESTIMATE MEANT, BY THE WAY,
WAS BASED OFF OF A SMALLER NUMBER OF PEOPLE BEING TORN
OFF THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE AND THE CBO IS CALCULATED.
IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE WORSE THAN THAT IF YOU WEREN'T UPDATED
BASED ON THE NEW INFORMATION AND THEY CONCLUDE SAYING WE FOUND AT
LEAST SEVEN ACADEMIC PAPERS THAT DETECTED A LINK BETWEEN SECURING
HEALTH INSURANCE AND A DECLINE IN MORTALITY WHICH SORT OF MAKES
SENSE EVEN WITHOUT CITATIONS, BUT WHETHER THEY HAVE IT.
WE FOUND AMPLE EVIDENCE IN THE ACADEMIC LITERATURE TO
SUGGEST THAT LEGISLATION ON THE SKILLED HOUSE BILL WOULD
PRODUCE THOUSANDS OF ADDITIONAL TESTS.
THAT MEANS YOU CAN THEN CLAIM THAT THIS WILL CAUSE
THOUSANDS OF DEATHS.
SOME OF THE STUDIES LOOKED INTO WHAT HAPPENED WHEN STATES
DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THE MEDICAID EXPANSION AS COMPARED TO STATES
TODAY AND THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS TO DO THOSE STUDIES IN
ALMOST ALL OF THEM CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE PEOPLE, THE
STATES AND INCENTIVE FOR MEDICAID, X NUMBER OF PEOPLE
DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE AND OF THOSE, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE GOT
SICK AND WHEN, NOT SICK LIKE I TWISTED MY ANGLE AND WENT
TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM.
GOT SICK WITH A CONDITION THAT NEEDS TO BE TREATED
REGULARLY AND THEY DIDN'T GET BETTER TREATMENT BECAUSE
THEY DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE AND YES, THEY DIED.
THAT IS KIND OF HOW HEALTHCARE WORKS.
IS THERE A SCENARIO IN WHICH PEOPLE HAVE LESS INSURANCE,
SO MORE OF THEM LIVE?
THAT MAKES NO SENSE.
MEDICAL MALPRACTICE I GUESS.
OF COURSE MORE PEOPLE WILL DIE.
POLITIFACT, I WANT TO GIVE THEM CREDIT OVERALL, I LOVE WHAT
THEY DO AND THAT THEY EXIST, BUT THEY ARE ALSO FRUSTRATING
ON SOME COUNTS.
THEY LOOK AT THE FACTS, WONDERFUL.
WE LOVE THAT PART.
WE ARE NOT - RIGHT WINGERS HATE IT WHEN YOU
LOOK AT THE FACTS.
WE LIKE IT, WE WANT YOU TO LOOK
INTO FACTS EVEN MORE.
HOLD EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE.
AND THEN WHEN THEY MENTION THE
TWO HARVARD PROFESSORS BERNIE SANDERS' STAFF
QUOTED WERE NOT PEER-REVIEWED STUDIES, I WAS
LIKE, THAT IS INTERESTING.
THAT IS A DATA POINT THAT THE RIGHT-WINGERS WOULD DISMISS
THAT IMMEDIATELY.
PEER-REVIEWED, WHO CARES?
THEY WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS.
I WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT IS AN INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT
DATA POINT.
HERE'S THE PART THAT DRIVES ME CRAZY ABOUT THEM.
THEY HAD TO BE BALANCED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T ALWAYS RULE
AGAINST REPUBLICANS, OTHERWISE THEY HAVE A LIBERAL BIAS.
JUST GIVE US A FACTS.
TURNS OUT, BY THE WAY, ON THE PEER-REVIEWED OR NOT, THOSE
ARTICLES, POLITIFACT LATER SAYS IN A PARENTHESES BURIED IN THE
ARTICLE WE ARE QUOTING STUDIED ñ STUDIES THAT WERE PEER-REVIEWED.
NOW WE HAVE TO FACT CHECK POLITIFACT.
THEY ARE DOING ANALYSIS BASED OFF OF DATA THAT COMES FROM
STUDIES THAT WERE PEER-REVIEWED.
FINE, LET'S PUT THAT NITPICKING ASIDE IF YOU
WANT TO CALL IT THAT.
THE END, THEIR CONCLUSION IS WHAT BERNIE SANDERS SAID IS
MOSTLY TRUE.
NO, YOU JUST TOLD US THAT IT WAS TOTALLY TRUE.
EVEN THE TWO STUDIES THAT THEY CITED WHERE IT WAS
EQUIVOCAL EVIDENCE THEY RESELL TO THE AUTHORS AND AUTHORS
SAID, NO, THE OTHER STUDIES ARE RIGHT.
PROBABLY THOUSANDS WILL DIE.
I'M NOT SURE THEY CONFIRED IT, BUT THEY CONFIRMED THE OTHER
STUDIES.
THEY HAD NO DISSENT.
IT'S MOSTLY TRUE.
THE ONLY REASON THEY CALL IT MOSTLY TRUE IS BALANCE.
I HAVE TO BALANCE IT, IF I KEEP SAYING THE LIBERALS ARE
COMPLETELY TRUE AND RIGHT-WINGERS ARE MAKING UP
STUFF, I WILL BE ACCUSED OF BIAS.
NO, DO YOUR JOB.
FACT.
ACCORDING TO THE FACTS YOU GAVE IN THE ARTICLE, SANDERS
STATEMENT WAS NOT 99% TRUE, IT WAS 1 BILLION% TRUE.
POLITICIZED LOOK AT THAT AND SAY THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 1
BILLION% SO I'M GOING TO RANK HIS STATEMENT MOSTLY TRUE.
I THINK YOU SHOULD START A WEBSITE, POLITIFACT FACT
WHERE YOU BACKCHECK EACH POLITICIZED ARTICLE AND
THEN YOU EVALUATE HOW ACCURATE THEY ARE.
ONE LESS THING THOUGH, YOU JUST OFF BOX THERE SAYING YOU
ARE SAYING PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE, THAT IS THE
RESPONSIBLE EVEN THOUGH THE EVIDENCE IS THAT I'D TRUE.
DO YOU REMEMBER, SOME OF YOU ARE TOO YOUNG, DO YOU REMEMBER
WHEN WE WERE DEBATING OBAMA CARE IN THE FIRST PLACE WHAT
RIGHT-WINGERS WERE SAYING ABOUT OBAMACARE AND WHAT IT WOULD DO?
THEY WERE NOT POINTING TO PEER-REVIEWED STUDIES FROM
THE PEOPLE DIE, THEY WERE SAYING FREEDOM WOULD DIE.
AMERICA WITHÖ THERE WAS A GUY WITH A FLAG SAYING THAT
THEY ARE GOING TO KILL AMERICA THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
GET THROUGH ME AND I WAS PLAYED ON FOX NEWS.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS PEER-REVIEWED.
I DON'T THINK THEY LOOKED INTO IT.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT THAT WE ARE
PARSING WHETHER BERNIE SANDERS BACKED UP BY ALMOST EVERY
STUDY CAN BE CALLED MOSTLY TRUE OR COMPLETELY TRUE.
THEY MADE UP THINGS ABOUT DEATH.
THEY JUST MADE THEM UP AND TO THE STATUS SAY IT.
BUT EVERYBODY IN THE ESTABLISHMENT PRESS HAS TO FIND
SOME SORT OF BALANCE.
POLITICAL FACT BACK IF YOU ARE POLITICAL BALANCE AND MAYBE
YOU SHOULD DO THIS IF YOU ARE POLITICAL FACT YOU SHOULD
LOOK AT THE FACTS AND JUST CALL IT LIKE IT IS.
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