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>> DEMOCRATS, A POLL INDICATES
THE RACE IS A TWO-MAN RACE.
THEY ARE TIED IN THE PRIMARY.
21% EACH.
THE OTHERS ARE FAR BACK.
NEARLY HALF OF OHIO DEMOCRATS
REMAIN UNDECIDED WITH A LITTLE
MORE THAN A MONTH TO GO BEFORE
THE PRIMARY.
ARE YOU SURPRISED WITH THE
UNDECIDED NUMBER THIS LATE IN
THE GAME?
>> NOT VERY SURPRISED.
CORDRAY HAS BEEN OUT OF THE
STATE FOR A WHILE.
YOU ARE GIVING THE PEOPLE FOUR
CHOICES.
IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT YOU
MIGHT HAVE HALF THE DEMOCRATS
SAYING, WE'RE NOT SURE.
OF COURSE, THAT'S A SAFE
RESPONSE IN A POLL WHEN YOU SAY,
I DON'T REALLY KNOW.
I THINK WHAT IT SAYS TO THE
CAMPAIGN IS THAT THE DEAL HASN'T
BEEN CLOSED WITH THE VOTERS.
IT MEANS HERE THAT CORDRAY HAS
THE NECESSITY GETTING OUT THERE
MORE.
HE WILL PROBABLY HAVE THE
RESOURCES.
WILL THEY STIMULATE TURNOUT?
DEMOCRATS ARE SCARED BECAUSE HE
COULD BE SORT OF A DONALD TRUMP
PUTTING TOGETHER A REALLY
UNUSUAL COALITION IN A GENERAL
ELECTION.
OR HE COULD BE ED FITZGERALD WHO
DRAGS THE TICKET DOWN.
MY GUESS IS WHEN I TALK TO
REPUBLICANS, IF THEY HAD THE
DRUTHERS, THEY WANT TOO RUN
AGAINST HIM.
>> THIS RACE IS VERY TIGHT,
ACCORDING TO THIS POLL.
THE REPUBLICAN RACE IS NOT VERY
TIGHT FROM WHAT WE ARE HEARING.
THIS RACE DOESN'T HAVE THE
NEGATIVE ADS YET.
DO WE EXPECT TO SEE SOME?
>> YOU KNOW, IT'S POSSIBLE.
I GUESS THERE ARE ISSUES THAT
ARE ARISING AMONG THE
CANDIDATES, BETWEEN THE
CANDIDATES.
I THINK I COULD SEE ONE GOING
OUT ON THE GUN ISSUE AND
PARTICULARLY ON CORDRAY HAVING
SUPPORTED ASSAULT WEAPONS--
OVERTURNING OF ASSAULTS WEAPONS
BAN AT A LOCAL LEVEL.
HE HAS BEEN REALLY POUNDING THAT
ISSUE.
I THINK THAT IT IS GIVEN WHAT'S
GOING ON WITH THE PARKLAND
SCHOOL SHOOTING AFTERMATH AND
THE COUNTRY ARISING OVER GUN
ISSUES, THAT THAT MAY HURT
CORDRAY IN A WAY THAT HIS
PREDECESSOR, THE LAST DEMOCRATIC
GOVERNOR WAS ALSO "A" RATED BY
THE NRA, AND THAT WAS A GOOD
THING.
>> THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO FACE
DENNIS?
>> I THINK SO.
BETWEEN THAT-- I DON'T THINK
THERE'S ANY QUESTION.
>> THE GUY WHO HAS SEEN THE UFO
VERSUS THE GUY WE'RE NOT SURE
HAS SEEN THE UFO?
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
I THINK HE MAY GET A LITTLE
ROUGH ON THIS BECAUSE I THINK WE
TALKED ABOUT THIS A MONTH OR SO
AGO, HE WAS ATTACKING CORDRAY
BECAUSE OF THE POSITION HE HAD
AS AN ATTORNEY AND GETTING
THE-- THEY COULDN'T BAN GUNS.
ALL HE WAS DOING WAS
REPRESENTING THE STATE IN HIS
POSITION AS ATTORNEY GENERAL.
AND HE WON.
HE TWISTED IT AND MAKES IT
APPEAR LIKE HE IS A GUN TOTING
MANIAC.
IT'S A PLUS ON HIS BEHALF.
IF HE SEES IT THAT WAY, HE WILL
PUSH IT THE REST OF THE TIME.
>> THE KNOCK ON CORDRAY IS HE IS
NOT A FIERY GUY.
HE IS MORE LOW KEY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN IN
THE POLL, ONLY 10% OF NORTHEAST
OHIO DEMOCRATS WOULD HAVE GONE
FOR RICHARD CORDRAY.
STILL, THAT'S A LOW NUMBER IN A
VERY DEMOCRATIC RICH AREA.
>> YEAH.
I AGREE WITH YOU.
I THINK THAT THE FACT THAT IT'S
NORTHEAST OHIO AND THAT'S WHAT
YOU ARE TALKING TO, YOU HAVE TO
REMEMBER THAT.
WE'RE FORGETTING, THERE ARE A
LOT OF DEMOCRATS IN THE STATE
THAT DON'T LIVE IN A CITY.
SMALLER TOWNS, OUT IN THE
COUNTY.
THEY LOOK AT SOME OF THESE
ISSUES DIFFERENTLY.
GUNS ESPECIALLY.
IF YOU ARE IN A SMALL RURAL
TOWN, YOU PROBABLY FAVOR GUNS.
RICH'S STAND ON GUNS WOULD NOT
BE AN ALIENATING FACTOR FOR YOU.
>> IF DEMOCRATIC LIBERAL
ACTIVISTS REALLY WANT TO WIN AN
ELECTION, MY GUESS IS THAT MOST
OF THEM WOULD COME TO THE SAME
CONCLUSION THAT MIKE AND I HAVE
AND OTHERS HAVE COME TO, THAT
OUR STRONGER CANDIDATE IS, IN
FACT, CORDRAY.
>> LIBERALS MIGHT SAY WE DID
THAT WITH HILLARY CLINTON AND
THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT.
>> NO, NO.
ACTUALLY, THEY MIGHT SAY THAT IF
THEY HAD GONE WITH BERNIE.
NOBODY COULD PROVE WHO WOULD
HAVE WON.
CLEARLY THIS YEAR, IT'S A
CRITICAL YEAR FOR THE DEMOCRATS.
THEY CONTROL NOTHING IN OHIO.
THEY HAVE A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR
GOVERNOR IN CORDRAY.
HE IS STILL THE UNDERDOG AGAINST
MIKE DeWINE.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT A LOT OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE THINKING BEYOND
LET'S SAY THE SINGLE ISSUE OF
GUNS OR SOME OTHER ISSUE,
DEMOCRATS WOULD BE SAYING, IT'S
TIME FOR US TO WIN.
IT MAY BE THE CASE IF WE HAVE TO
WIN WITH A CANDIDATE WE DON'T
AGREE WITH 98% OF THE TIME, WE
WILL DO THAT.
WE WILL SEE.
>> IF HE WINS, IF CORDRAY SHOULD
WIN THE PRIMARY, DeWINE ISN'T
FIERY EITHER.
IN TERMS OF A GENERAL ELECTION,
IT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING
MATCHUP.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE JOHN
HUSTED BETTY SUTTON DEBATE MORE
THAN THE DeWINE CORDRAY DEBATE.
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