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>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
I THINK THAT IT'S FAIR FOR ME
NOW TO REVEAL THAT I ALWAYS
THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN ON
SUNDAY NIGHT.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT IT
WOULDN'T BE FINALLY BE FINALIZED
UNTIL THE 11th HOUR.
>> Rosemary: FOR ALMOST 14
MONTHS CHRYSTIA FREELAND
NEGOTIATED THE FREE-TRADE
AGREEMENT.
TONIGHT SHE'S
SITTING DOWN WITH US TO ANSWER
THE KEY QUESTIONS, IS THIS A
GOOD DEAL FOR CANADA?
WE'LL BREAK DOWN THE AGREEMENT
AND ITS IMPACT FROM JOBS, TO
ONLINE SHOPPING, TO POLITICS.
WHAT CANADA GOT, WHAT IT GAVE
UP, AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR YOU.
>> Andrew: ALSO HISTORY IS
MADE IN QUÉBEC.
AN UPSTART PARTY WILL FORM THE
NEXT GOVERNMENT.
>> Ian: AND ONE YEAR AGO TONIGHT
THIS MANITOBA WOMAN WAS AMONG
THOSE SHOT IN LAS VEGAS.
>> IT'S HARD TO PUT THINGS ASIDE
THEY WILL NEVER GO AWAY BUT
HOPEFULLY IT WILL GET EASIER.
>> Ian: HOW SHE'S TRYING TO MOVE
ON AND REMEMBERING THOSE LOST.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
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>> Rosemary: AFTER MONTHS OF
TENSE NEGOTIATIONS THAT
SOMETIMES TURNED PERSONAL,
JUSTIN TRUDEAU AND DONALD TRUMP
EMERGED TODAY ON THE SAME PAGE,
BOTH SELLING THE NEW TRADE DEAL
AS A VICTORY FOR THEIR
RESPECTIVE COUNTRIES.
WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT IT MEANS FOR
THE LIBERALS, FOR BUSINESS AND
FOR CONSUMERS, BUT, FIRST, LET'S
START WITH THE DEAL ITSELF.
>> President Donald Trump:
THIS IS A TERRIFIC DEAL FOR ALL
OF US.
ONCE APPROVED BY CONGRESS THIS
NEW DEAL WILL BE THE MOST MODERN
UP-TO-DATE AND BALANCED TRADE
AGREEMENT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR
COUNTRY.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: IT'S AN AGREEMENT THAT
WHEN ENACTED WILL BE GOOD FOR
CANADIAN WORKERS, GOOD FOR
CANADIAN BUSINESS, AND GOOD FOR
CANADIAN FAMILIES.
>> Rosemary: BOTH LEADERS SAY
THIS IS A STRONG DEAL BUT LET'S
LOOK AT THE BIG TAKEAWAYS,
STARTING WITH CANADA'S BIGGEST
STICKING POINT.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: THERE IS A SENSE THAT
WHEN THINGS WERE FALLING INTO
PLACE -- I THINK ONE OF THE
MOMENTS FOR ME IS WHEN WE
REALIZED THAT WE HAD AN INTACT
CHAPTER 19.
>> Rosemary: IT MEANS AN
IMPARTIAL THIRD PARTY SETTLES
DISPUTES INSTEAD OF U.S. COURTS.
CANADA HAS BENEFITED FROM THE
CLAUS, PARTICULARLY AROUND
SOFTWOOD LUMBER.
IN ORDER TO KEEP IT IN THE USMCA
IT MIGHT HAVE MEANT THAT
CONCESSION ON DAIRY.
>> President Donald Trump: THE
DEAL INCLUDES A SUBSTANTIAL
INCREASE IN OUR FARMERS'
OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPORT WHEAT,
POULTRY, EGG, AND DAIRY,
INCLUDING MILK, BUTTER, CHEESE,
YOGOURT AND ICE CREAM, TO NAME A
FEW.
I WANT TO BE VERY SPECIFIC.
[Applause]
>> Rosemary: SO THAT'S A WIN
FOR TRUMP.
THE NEW DEAL GIVES U.S. FARMERS
MORE ACCESS TO CANADA'S DAIRY
MARKETS BUT IT CAPPED SUPPLY
MANAGEMENT, THE SYSTEM THAT
LIMITS DAIRY AND POULTRY INTACT.
THOUGH TODAY FREELAND ANNOUNCED
THAT FARMERS AFFECTED WILL BE
COMPENSATED.
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT THE
COMPENSATION IS CAREFULLY
THOUGHT THROUGH AND WE HAVE
BEGUN THAT PROCESS ALREADY.
>> Rosemary: CANADA DID AVOID
PUNISHING AUTO TARIFFS,
SOMETHING THAT TRUMP HAS BEEN
THREATENING FOR WEEKS.
BUT STEEL AND ALUMINUM TARIFFS
SLAPPED ON IN THE SUMMER WERE
NOT RESOLVED IN THIS DEAL.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: WE WILL CONTINUE TO
DISCUSS THAT
ISSUE AND OTHER ISSUES IN A
POSITIVE GOOD-FAITH WAY AND
KNOWING THAT WE HAVE MADE
SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS AND THAT
THERE'S ALWAYS MORE TO DO.
>> Rosemary: SO WHATEVER THE
CANADIAN GOVERNMENT HAD TO GIVE
UP THE LIBERALS ARE CONVINCED
THEY GOT THE BEST DEAL POSSIBLE.
NOW THEY HAVE TO CONVINCE
EVERYONE ELSE.
KATIE SIMPSON STARTS OUR
COVERAGE WITH THE POLITICS.
[Applause]
>> Reporter: MANY BELIEVED
THAT THIS DAY WOULD NEVER
ARRIVE.
DONALD TRUMP HATED NAFTA AND
RELIED ON HIS COUNTRY'S SIZE,
MIGHT, AND USED THE THREAT OF
TARIFFS TO GET WHAT HE WANTED AT
THE NEGOTIATING TABLE.
>> President Donald Trump: BY
THE WAY, WITHOUT TARIFFS WE
WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT A
DEAL, JUST FOR THOSE BABIES OUT
THERE THAT KEEP TALKING ABOUT
TARIFFS.
I THINK THAT MY BIGGEST
CONCESSION WAS MAKING THE DEAL.
>> Reporter: TO KEEP THE DEAL
ALIVE THE PRIME MINISTER KNEW
THAT CANADA WOULD HAVE TO MAKE
CONCESSIONS, ADMITTING TODAY
THAT SOME WERE MORE DIFFICULT
THAN OTHERS.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: NO ONE HAS BEEN GIVEN
A MORE DIFFICULT TASK AND YOU
DELIVERED.
>> Reporter: HE AND THE
FOREIGN AFFAIRS MINISTER WHO LED
THE TALKS APPEARED RELIEVED THAT
THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE DONE.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: FREE AND FAIR TRADE IN
NORTH AMERICA IS IN A MUCH MORE
STABLE PLACE THAN IT WAS
YESTERDAY.
WE NOW HAVE A PATH FORWARD.
>> Reporter: WHICHEVER WAY
THAT PATH LEEDS IT WILL LIKELY
BECOME A DEFINING MOMENT FOR
JUSTIN TRUDEAU ON HOW HE MANAGED
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND
CANADA'S MOST IMPORTANT
RELATIONSHIP.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: WE WILL CONTINUE TO
WORK ON THINGS THAT ALLOW US TO
BENEFIT OUR WORKERS, BENEFIT OUR
CITIZENS, AND TAKE ON THE WORLD
TOGETHER.
>> Reporter: THE WORK AT HOME
NOW BEGINS FOR THE LIBERALS WHO
HAVE TO CONVINCE CANADIANS THEY
LANDED THE BEST DEAL POSSIBLE IN
UNCERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.
THE OPPOSITION ISN'T GOING TO
MAKE IT EASY.
>> THE UNITED STATES IS
MEASURING THEIR SUCCESS IN TERMS
OF WHAT THEY GOT AND CANADA IS
MEASURING THEIR SUCCESS BY
MEASURING WHAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE
TO GIVE UP.
SO IT'S PRETTY CLEAR ON WHICH
END OF THE STICK WE'RE ON.
>> THE DEAL MAY HAVE A NEW NAME
BUT WE SIGNED A DEAL THAT IS
WORSE THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE.
>> Reporter: BUT CHRYSTIA
FREELAND IS CLEARLY READY AND
WILLING TO DEFEND THIS DEAL.
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
THE CONSERVATIVES SEEM TO HAVE
DISCOVERED A LOT OF MONDAY
MORNING COURAGE.
HAVING FOUND THAT THROUGHOUT
THIS NEGOTIATION THAT CANADA
TAKES A SOFTER LINE AND WE GOT A
GOOD
DEAL FOR CANADIANS.
>> Rosemary: KATIE IS JOINING
US NOW.
THIS ALL CAME TOGETHER QUICKLY
OVER THE WEEKEND BUT YOU HAVE
DETAILS ABOUT "THE MOMENT" THAT
CANADA KNEW THAT THERE WAS A
DEAL THAT WAS POSSIBLE.
>> Reporter: ROSIE, PICTURE
THIS, IT'S SATURDAY INSIDE OF
THE OFFICE OF THE PRIME
MINISTER'S CHIEF OF STAFF.
IN THE ROOM ARE ALL OF THE KEY
PLAYERS LEADING CANADA'S NAFTA
NEGOTIATING TEAM.
AND THEY'RE ON A CONFERENCE CALL
WITH BOB LIGHTHIZER, WHO IS
TRUMP'S TOP GUY ON TRADE.
IN THE ROOM WITH THE CANADIANS
IS CHRYSTIA FREELAND, THE
CANADIAN FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MINISTER,
SEVERAL ADVISORS TO THE PRIME
MINISTER, ALONG WITH THE
CANADIAN AMBASSADOR TO THE U.S.
AND CANADA'S CHIEF NAFTA
NEGOTIATOR.
DURING THIS CALL ROBERT
LIGHTHIZER SAYS THAT THE
AMERICANS ARE WILLING TO ALLOW
CANADA TO KEEP CHAPTER 19
INTACT.
THAT IS WHEN I AM TOLD THAT
CHRYSTIA FREELAND'S ARMS WENT
STRAIGHT IN THE AIR AND SHE HAD
A YAY KIND OF MOMENT, AND FROM
THERE THEY CALLED THE
PRIME MINISTER TO LET HIM KNOW
WHAT HAPPENED AND THINGS CAME
TOGETHER QUICKLY.
>> Rosemary: GOOD THING THAT
IT WASN'T A VIDEO CONFERENCE.
KATIE, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IN ALL
OF THIS?
>> Reporter: THERE'S NOT
EXPECTED TO BE MUCH TROUBLE IN
CANADA OR MEXICO GETTING THIS
THROUGH THE RATIFICATION
PROCESS, AND THE BIG QUESTION
MARK ARE THE U.S.
THERE'S MIDTERM ELECTION COMING
UP IN NOVEMBER AND THOSE MEMBERS
OF CONGRESS WILL BE VOTING ON
THIS DEAL.
NOW IF THOSE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
THAT GET ELECTED DURING THIS
ELECTION DON'T LIKE THIS DEAL
THIS COULD COMPLICATE THIS
ENTIRE PROCESS.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, KATIE
SIMPSON IS TRACKING THIS STORY
AS SHE DOES.
THANK YOU.
>> Reporter: THANKS.
>> Rosemary: THE FINE PRINT OF
THIS TRILATERAL DEAL IS WHERE
THE WINNERS AND THE LOSERS WILL
BE DETERMINED, BUSINESSES AND
UNIONS AND LOBBY GROUPS, STILL
PORING OVER THE DETAILS TODAY
AND LOOKING FOR THE TRUE COST OF
CONCESSIONS.
JACQUELINE HANSEN HAS REACTION
FROM
THE INDUSTRY.
>> Reporter: IN A SMALL
COMMUNITY ON THE CANADA-U.S.
BORDER, DAIRY FARMER JASON
ERSKINE SAYS THAT HE'S ALREADY
LOSING
SLEEP OVER THE NEW DEAL WITH HIS
SOUTHERN NEIGHBOURS.
>> WHEN THE INFORMATION STARTED
TO COME IN LAST NIGHT IT WAS
VERY DISCOURAGING.
IT WAS QUITE UPSETTING.
>> Reporter: CANADA'S DAIRY
SUPPLY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS
STILL PROTECTED BUT CANADIAN
FARMERS WILL HAVE TO GIVE UP
ABOUT 3.6% OF THE MARKET.
SOME SAY THAT'S TOO MUCH.
>> I JUST WISH CANADA COULD HAVE
DONE BETTER.
I THINK THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE
BETTER IN NEGOTIATING THIS.
>> Reporter: MEANWHILE WORKERS
IN THE AUTO INDUSTRY ARE
OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THEIR FUTURE.
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S REPEATED
THREAT OF TARIFFS ON CANADIAN
CARS SEEMS TO BE IN THE REARVIEW
MIRROR.
>> WELL, A BIT OF A SIGH OF
RELIEF.
I THINK THAT WE'RE REALLY
PLEASED AND
ENCOURAGED BY THIS MOVING
FORWARD.
>> Reporter: IF THE U.S. DOES
TRIGGER TARIFFS ON AUTOS
EVENTUALLY CANADA WILL BE
EXEMPT, UP TO A LEVEL FAR ABOVE
WHAT CANADA CURRENTLY EXPORTS.
HEFTY TARIFFS ON STEEL AND
ALUMINUM ARE STILL IN PLACE.
THE UNION THAT REPRESENTS
STEELWORKERS SAYS THEY ARE BEING
SACRIFICED AS PART OF THE DEAL
AND THAT THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT
SOLD OUT ITS WORKERS.
BUT THERE IS HOPE THAT THE
TARIFFS WON'T LAST MUCH LONGER.
>> WE THINK THAT THE GOVERNMENT
OF CANADA IS -- WILL TAKE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD ON THE
MOMENTUM ACHIEVED BY THIS
AGREEMENT.
>> Reporter: EVEN DAIRY
FARMERS MAY GET SOME RELIEF.
THE GOVERNMENT PROMISES TO FULLY
COMPENSATE THEM FOR WHAT THEY'D
LOSE IN THE DEAL.
>> I'M NOT LOOKING FOR
GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS BUT I GUESS
IF YOU SQUEEZE US HARD ENOUGH,
YEAH, WE'LL NEED SOMETHING.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED.
>> Reporter: WHAT THE HELP FOR
FARMERS WILL LOOK LIKE IS
EXPECTED TO BE WORKED OUT BEFORE
THE NEW DEAL IS RATIFIED.
JACQUELINE HANSEN, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Rosemary: THEY MAY WANT TO
KNOW WHAT THIS NEW TRADE DEAL
COULD MEAN FOR YOUR FINANCES.
PETER ARMSTRONG LOOKS AT IT FROM
THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE CONSUMER.
PETER, THESE ARE OBVIOUSLY BIG
IMPORTANT ISSUES, BUT IF WE ZOOM
IN ON THEM WHAT KIND OF CHANGES
COULD WE EXPECT FOR CONSUMERS
HERE?
>> Reporter: IT'S AN IMPORTANT
DISTINCTION, ROSIE.
BECAUSE IN A LOT OF WAYS THE
THINGS THAT ARE DIFFICULT
POLITICALLY ARE PRETTY GOOD FOR
CONSUMERS.
I MEAN, WE TALK ABOUT DAIRY AS A
PROBLEM.
BUT, REALLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
POTENTIALLY AT LEAST CHEAPER
MILK FOR FAMILIES.
WE HAVE POLITICIANS DOING
COPYRIGHT AND PATENT EXTENSIONS
AS A WIN, BUT IT MEANS THAT
PATIENTS IN
CANADA WILL PAY MORE FOR DRUGS
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET TO
GENERIC DRUGS AS QUICKLY AND
HAVE TO PAY MORE FOR BRAND NAME.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, WE KNOW
THAT WE HAVE OPENED UP
THE DAIRY MARKET TO OTHER
COUNTRIES IN THE PAST AND IN
THAT INSTANCE, $4.3 BILLION WAS
THE COMPENSATION GIVEN TO DAIRY
FARMERS.
ANY SENSE OF WHAT TO EXPECT THIS
TIME?
>> Reporter: WE DON'T KNOW YET
BUT CERTAINLY BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS.
CONSUMERS PAY ONE WAY OR THE
OTHER, WHETHER AT THE CASH
REGISTER OR THROUGH TAXES.
ECONOMISTS SAY THAT, YES, MORE
U.S. MILK AND CHEESE WILL COME
IN BUT CONSUMERS MAY NOT SAVE AS
MUCH MONEY AS THEY MIGHT HAVE
HOPED.
I MEAN IT'S A TINY SLIVER OF THE
MARKET, JUST 3.6%.
THIS IS GOING TO TAKE DECADES TO
FULLY KICK IN.
>> Rosemary: LET'S TALK ABOUT
DUTY-FREE SHOPPING RULES FOR A
MOMENT.
THIS INTERESTS ME THE MOST.
WE BOOSTED THE LIMIT TO $150,
HOW IT WILL IT ACTUALLY WORK?
>> Reporter: THERE'S TWO MAIN
PILLARS WITHIN THE DIMINIMUS
LIMITS.
YOU HAVE ON THE ONE HAND THE
DUTY-FREE LIMITS AND
ON THE OTHER HAND IS THE SALES
TAX THRESHOLD.
EACH USED TO BE $20.
AND NOW THOUGH THE DUTY-FREE
LIMIT IS RISING TO $150.
BUT THE SALES TAX THRESHOLD IS
ONLY RISING TO $40.
AND DUTIES RUN 2%, TAXES CAN RUN
AS HIGH AS 15%.
SO, ROSIE, IF YOU'RE SPENDING
MORE THAN $40 YOU WILL OWE
SOMEBODY SOME MONEY.
>> Rosemary: I'M NOT OUT OF
THE WOODS YET THEN.
THANK YOU, PETER.
CBC'S SENIOR BUSINESS
CORRESPONDENT PETER ARMSTRONG.
>>> SO IS THE NEW NAFTA REALLY
BETTER?
DID ANY PERSONALITIES GET IN THE
WAY OF THESE NEGOTIATIONS?
WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THOSE
TENSE MOMENTS AT THE TABLE LATER
ON "THE NATIONAL" IN MY
INTERVIEW WITH MINISTER
FREELAND.
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
WE CERTAINLY HAD MANY TOUGH
MOMENTS IN THE NEGOTIATION AS
YOU DO IN ANY NEGOTIATION OF
THIS COMPLEXITY.
BUT I AM VERY CONFIDENT THAT
AMBASSADOR LIGHTHIZER THROUGHOUT
WAS NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH
AND HE WAS A SMART -- WAS AND IS
-- A SMART AND CREATIVE COUNTER
PARTY TO NEGOTIATE WITH.
>> Rosemary: MY FULL INTERVIEW
WITH THE MINISTER A LITTLE LATER
ON "THE NATIONAL," BUT THERE'S
ANOTHER HUGE CANADIAN POLITICAL
STORY IN QUÉBEC TONIGHT.
ANDREW, YOU HAVE GOT THAT?
>> Andrew: IT'S AN ELECTION
RESULT THE LIKES OF WHICH WE
HAVE NOT SEEN IN HALF A CENTURY.
[Applause]
THAT IS FRANÇOIS LEGAULT ON THE
RIGHT-LEANING COALITION AVENIR
QUÉBEC AND HE WILL WIN THE
NIGHT.
FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS THEY HAVE
TRADED POWER BACK AND FORTH BUT
NOW A NEW PLAYER IS SEIZING THE
RE NIRCH S.
AND THEY NEEDED 63 SEATS TO FORM
A MAJORITY, AND IT'S PRETTY
CLEAR THEY'LL GET THEIR WISH, A
MAJORITY C.A.Q. GOVERNMENT.
THE LIBERALS IN OPPOSITION AND
THE P.Q. HAS BEEN DECIMATED.
AND THE LEFT-LEANING QUÉBEC
SOLIDAIRE IS DOUBLING THEIR
SEATS FROM THREE TO SEVEN.
JAELA BERNSTIEN IS WITH US NOW
LIVE FROM THE COALITION AVENIR
QUÉBEC HEADQUARTERS IN QUEBEC
CITY.
AN HISTORIC WIN.
WHAT DOES A C.A.Q. GOVERNMENT
MEAN FOR QUÉBEC?
>> Reporter: FIRST OFF WE'LL
NOW HAVE A RIGHT-OF-CENTRE
GOVERNMENT WHICH IS A CHANGE
FROM THE LAST FOUR-YEAR MANDATE
OF THE LIBERALS.
ALSO TACK ON TO THAT THE FACT
THAT THE C.A.Q. HAS CAMPAIGNED
ON A PROMISE FOR ELECTORAL
REFORM.
THEY HAD PROMISED THIS WOULD BE
OUR LAST FIRST PAST THE POST
ELECTION SO WE CAN EXPECT THAT
CHANGE OVER THE COURSE OF THE
NEXT FOUR YEARS.
AND THEN ANOTHER THING THEY
WANTED TO TOUCH ON IS
IMMIGRATION.
THAT WAS A HOTLY CONTESTED POINT
OVER THE COURSE OF THE ELECTION
CAMPAIGN.
LEGAULT HAD PROMISED AND HAS
PROMISED THAT IF ELECTED THAT HE
WOULD INTRODUCE A FRENCH VALUES
AND LANGUAGE TEST THAT
IMMIGRANTS WOULD HAVE TO PASS IF
THEY WANT TO STAY HERE IN
QUÉBEC.
>> Andrew: RIGHT.
SO THAT COULD CHANGE THINGS NOT
JUST FOR THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE
BUT MANY CYCLES DOWN THE ROAD.
THE FLIPSIDE YOU MENTIONED THE
DEFEAT OF THE LIBERALS.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR PHILIPPE
COUILLARD?
>> Reporter: WELL, IT MEANS
THAT HIS FUTURE IS UNCERTAIN.
HE SPOKE JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO
SAYING THAT HE DOES BELIEVE THAT
HE HAS LEFT QUÉBEC IN A BETTER
PLACE THAN HOW HE FOUND IT IN
2014.
LET'S LISTEN TO WHAT HE HAD TO
SAY...
>> I WANT TO SAY YOU ARE LIKE US
FIRST-CLASS QUÉBECERS.
STAY WITH US.
BUILD OUR QUÉBEC WITH ALL
QUÉBECERS.
YES, FRENCH IS OUR OFFICIAL
LANGUAGE, ENGLISH IS NOT A
FOREIGN LANGUAGE IN QUÉBEC.
>> Reporter: AND SO HE HAS
SAID, LIBERAL LEADER COUILLARD
SAYS THAT HE'LL TAKE A FEW DAYS
TO REFLECT ON HIS FUTURE.
SO WE'LL BE WAITING TO SEE WHAT
HIS ANSWER IS TO THAT QUESTION.
>> Andrew: OKAY.
LOTS GOING ON TONIGHT, JAELA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND WE'LL LET
YOU GET BACK TO IT AND WE'LL
UPDATE THE RESULTS THROUGHOUT
THE EVENING.
IS.
>> Ian: TO THE U.S. NOW WHERE
THERE'S NEW QUESTIONS TONIGHT
ABOUT THE PAST BEHAVIOUR OF
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S NOMINEE TO THE
SUPREME COURT.
AND WHETHER BRETT KAVANAUGH TOLD
THE TRUTH LAST WEEK WHEN HE
TESTIFIED UNDER OATH.
THE F.B.I. HAS JUST FOUR MORE
DAYS TO INVESTIGATE ALLEGATIONS
THAT KAVANAUGH COMMITTED SEXUAL
ASSAULT.
THE CBC'S KEITH BOAG HAS THE
LATEST FROM WASHINGTON.
>> SENATOR FLAKE, DONALD
TRUMP... BRETT KAVANAUGH, CAN
YOU HEAR US NOW?
[Cheers and Applause]
>> Reporter: WITH FIVE WEEKS
LEFT IN THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS
CAMPAIGN, THE DEMOCRATS HAVE
SEIZED THE ISSUE OF WHETHER
JUDGE BRETT KAVANAUGH SHOULD BE
CONFIRMED AS A SUPREME COURT
JUSTICE.
THE F.B.I. HAS BEGUN A NEW
BACKGROUND CHECK ON KAVANAUGH TO
INVESTIGATE ALLEGATIONS OF
SEXUAL ASSAULT.
BUT SINCE HIS TESTIMONY LAST
WEEK THERE ARE ALSO NEW
QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS HONESTY.
FOR INSTANCE, HE SAID THIS ABOUT
HIS DRINKING IN COLLEGE...
>> I LIKED BEER.
I STILL LIKE BEER.
BUT I DID WANT DRINK BEER TO THE
POINT OF BLACKING OUT.
>> THERE WERE CERTAINLY MANY
TIMES WHEN HE COULD NOT REMEMBER
WHAT WAS GOING ON.
>> Reporter: HIS FORMER YALE
CLASSMATE TELLS A DIFFERENT
STORY TONIGHT.
>> IN DOWNPLAYING THE DEGREE AND
THE FREQUENCY OF HIS DRINKING
BRETT HAS NOT TOLD THE TRUTH.
I FELT THAT IT WAS MY CIVIC DUTY
TO TELL OF MY EXPERIENCE WHILE
DRINKING WITH BRETT.
>> Reporter: AT A NEWS
CONFERENCE EARLIER, DONALD TRUMP
AT FIRST IGNORED QUESTIONS ABOUT
KAVANAUGH.
>> CAN YOU PROMISE TO RELEASE
THE FULL...
>> President Donald Trump:
GIVE ME YOUR QUESTION, PLEASE.
GIVE HER THE MIKE, PLEASE.
>> Reporter: BUT HE DID TAKE A
QUESTION ABOUT KAVANAUGH'S
DRINKING HE HAD MORE FORTHRIGHT
TESTIMONY THAN KAVANAUGH HAD
ACTUALLY GIVEN.
>> President Donald Trump:
HE'S HAD A LITTLE BIT OF
DIFFICULTY.
I MEAN, HE TALKED ABOUT THINGS
THAT HAPPENED WHEN HE DRANK.
>> Reporter: DEMOCRATS WERE
ALSO ZEROING IN ON WHAT THEY
BELIEVE WAS --
>> BRETT KAVANAUGH'S DIFFICULT
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TRUTH.
>> Reporter: THIS MATTERS TO
EVERYONE BECAUSE IT MATTERS TO
SENATOR JEFF MAKE AS HE AND
DEMOCRAT CHRIS COONS AGREED ON
CBS' "660 MINUTES" ON SUNDAY.
>> IF JUDGE KAVANAUGH LIED TO
THE COMMITTEE, THE NOMINATION IS
OVER?
>> OH, YES, I WOULD THINK SO.
>> Reporter: STILL SENATE
MAJORITY LEADER MITCH
McCONNELL SAYS
THAT THERE WILL BE A
CONFIRMATION VOTE ON KAVANAUGH
AND IT WILL BE THIS WEEK.
KEITH BOAG, CBC NEWS,
WASHINGTON.
>> Andrew: LET'S GO TO SOME OF
THE OTHER DEVELOPING STORIES
TONIGHT.
WALMART CANADA IS ADMITTING THAT
IT SOLD CONTAMINATED FOOD TO
CUSTOMERS AFTER THE FORT
McMURRAY WILDFIRE IN 2016.
ALL TOGETHER WALMART AND A
SENIOR MANAGER WERE FINED
$40,000 TODAY AFTER PLEADING
GUILTY TO 10 CHARGES UNDER
ALBERTA'S PUBLIC HEALTH ACT.
IN A STATEMENT THE COMPANY
ADMITTED THAT AFTER THE FIRE IT
SOLD FOOD NOT FIT FOR HUMAN
CONSUMPTION DESPITE BEING
ORDERED BY THE PROVINCE TO THROW
THOSE ITEMS AWAY.
>>> MEANWHILE, FACEBOOK IS
FACING LEGAL TROUBLE IN CANADA
OVER A RECENT SECURITY BREACH.
A TORONTO LAW FIRM ANNOUNCED
TODAY THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING A
CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT AFTER
HACKERS GAINED ACCESS TO
50 MILLION USERS' ACCOUNTS.
THE FIRM SAID THAT IT HAD FILED
THE SUIT ON BEHALF OF ALL
CANADIANS AFFECTED BY THE BREACH
AND YOU MAY BE ONE OF THEM IF
YOU WERE LOGGED OUT OF YOUR
ACCOUNT ON FRIDAY.
>> Ian: AHEAD TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL," HE THOUGHT THAT IT
WAS SIMPLY A TEXT MESSAGE BUT IT
TURNS OUT THAT HIS CELLPHONE WAS
BEING HACKED.
WHY HE THINKS THAT SAUDI ARABIA
IS TO BLAME.
>> Andrew: ALSO, THE DEATH
TOLL CLIMBS IN INDONESIA.
TOLL CLIMBS IN INDONESIA.
THE DESPERATE SEARCH FOR
SURVIVORS CONTINUES.
WE'LL SHOW YOU THE REMARKABLE
RESCUES IN THE WAKE OF A
DEVASTATING TSUNAMI.
>> Rosemary: A YEAR AGO
TONIGHT SHE WAS CAUGHT IN THE
GUNFIRE IN LAS VEGAS.
A CANADIAN SURVIVOR SHARES HER
STRUGGLE TO RECOVER.
>> WOULD IT HAVE MADE A
DIFFERENCE?
I MEAN, WHATEVER WAS IN HIS
MIND, WE'LL NEVER KNOW.
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>> SUDDENLY SOMEONE IS TELLING
YOU THAT YOUR PHONE MIGHT BE
INFECTED OR MIGHT BE HACKED.
SO, OKAY, SORRY, I HAVE TO ASK
YOU SOME QUESTIONS.
>> Ian: WE PUT SO MUCH OF OUR
LIVES ON OUR PHONES AND IMAGINE
IF YOU FOUND OUT THAT YOURS HAD
BEEN HACKED, POTENTIALLY BY AN
UNFRIENDLY FOREIGN POWER.
OMAR ABDULAZIZ IS AN ACTIVIST
FROM SAUDI ARABIA AND HE'S
CRITICISEED THAT COUNTRY FOR HIS
HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES.
IN 2014, CANADA GRANTED HIM
POLITICAL ASYLUM.
HE THOUGHT THAT HE WAS SAFE
UNTIL HE GOT A CALL ABOUT HIS
PHONE.
OUR TECHNOLOGY REPORTER MATTHEW
BRAGA PICKS UP THE STORY.
>> Reporter: WHAT HAD YOU
ORDERED AND WHAT WERE YOU
EXPECTING?
>> IT WAS PROTEIN POWDER AND I
WAS WAITING.
I WANTED TO WORK OUT.
>> Reporter: OMAR ABDULAZIZ
DIDN'T THINK MUCH OF THE TEXT
MESSAGE.
HE HAD ORDERED PROTEIN POWDER
FROM AMAZON, MAYBE THIS IS IT,
ONLY LATER HE WOULD REALIZE THAT
IT WAS NOT.
>> THE MESSAGE WAS IN JUNE.
>> Reporter: THE TEXT MESSAGE
WAS FAKE, A
PHISHING SCHEME.
AND THE LINK POINTED NOT TO A
TRACKING NUMBER BUT SPYWARE.
WHEN CLICKED IT WOULD SILENTLY
TAKE OVER HIS PHONE AND GIVING
THE SPYWARE OPERATORS TOTAL
CONTROL.
>> MAYBE THEY WERE LISTENING TO
EVERY SINGLE CALL WE HAD AND
THEY WERE READING OUR CHAT.
>> Reporter: "THEY" BEING THE
GOVERNMENT OF SAUDI ARABIA.
RESEARCHERS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
TORONTO CITIZEN LAB
SAY THAT IT WAS LIKELY HE WAS
TARGETED BY THE REGIME NOTORIOUS
FOR ITS ATTEMPTS TO SILENCE
ACTIVISTS.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: ABDULAZIZ HAS NO
DOUBT.
HE'S OPENLY CRITICAL OF THE
SAUDI GOVERNMENT'S HUMAN RIGHTS
RECORD.
AND THIS SUMMER HE SPOKE OUT
AGAINST THE SAUDI DIPLOMATIC
FEUD.
HIS ACTIVISM HAS DRAWN
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
FOLLOWERS ONLINE.
>> IN SO MANY MINUTES SO MANY
ARE CONTACTING ME THROUGH MY
SNAPCHAT AND TWITTER ACCOUNT AND
NOW THEY'RE IN REAL DANGER
BECAUSE OF THAT.
>> Reporter: HE SAID THAT TWO
BROTHERS AND SEVERAL FRIENDS
HAVE BEEN JAILED IN SAUDI ARABIA
AND HE'S CONVINCED THAT THE
SPYWARE TURNED THEM INTO
TARGETS.
HE HAD NO IDEA THAT HIS PHONE
WAS INFECTED UNTIL CITIZEN LAB
GOT IN TOUCH.
>> THEY SAID THAT WE SEE THAT
YOU ARE BEING FOLLOWED BY THE
SAUDI AUTHORITIES.
>> Reporter: FOR YEARS NOW
CYBER COMPANIES AND WATCHDOGS
HAVE BEEN TRACKING THE USE OF
PEGASUS, MADE BY AN ISRAELI
COMPANY AND S.A.O. GROUP WHO
SAYS
THAT THEY ARE ONLY SOLD TO
GOVERNMENT FOR SERIOUS
INVESTIGATIONS LIKE TERRORISM OR
NATIONAL SECURITY.
BUT THERE'S CASES OF ABUSE.
AGAINST AN ACTIVIST AND
DISSIDENTS AND JOURNALISTS AND
POLITICAL
OPPONENTS IN MEXICO AND NOW OMAR
ABDULAZIZ.
>> WHEN THE GOVERNMENT DECIDE
WHO IS A LEGAL TARGET, THEN
YOU'RE
AT THE MERCY OF WHETHER OR NOT
THAT GOVERNMENT IS ETHICAL IN
HOW THEY'LL USE IT.
>> Reporter: RECENTLY CITIZEN
LAB RESEARCHERS MAPPED PEGASUS
INFECTIONS AROUND THE WORLD AND
MUCH TO THEIR SURPRISE THEY
FOUND ONE IN QUÉBEC.
THEY CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN IT
WAS SAUDI ARABIA BUT THEY'RE
HIGHLY CONFIDENT, GIVEN THE
SIMILARITIES TO PREVIOUS
ATTACKS.
>> THERE'S A RECKLESS NATURE TO
THIS TYPE OF TARGETING.
IT GOES TO SHOW HOW MUCH MONEY
THE GOVERNMENT IS WILLING TO
EXPEND ON SOMEBODY WHO IS
EFFECTIVELY A NUISANCE BECAUSE
OF WHAT THEY'RE EXPRESSING
FREELY OVER SOCIAL MEDIA.
THIS IS LIKELY GOING TO AMPLIFY
THE DISPUTE BETWEEN CANADA AND
SAUDI ARABIA, NO DOUBT.
>> Reporter: ABDULAZIZ SAYS
THAT HE WON'T BE SILENCED AND
BELIEVES THAT CONTINUING TO
SPEAK OUT IS THE BEST WAY TO
BRING ABOUT CHANGE AND HIS
FRIEND AND FAMILY'S RELIEF
>> SO MANY PEOPLE ARE SCARED,
SCARED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENED TO THEM.
MAYBE THEY HAD EXPERIENCED
SOMETHING EVEN WORSE THAN ME.
BUT SOMEONE HAS TO SAY, NO.
SOMEONE HAS TO STOP AGAINST
THIS.
>> Reporter: MATTHEW BRAGA,
CBC NEWS, SHERBROOKE, QUÉBEC.
>> Ian: MATT ASKED THE CANADIAN
GOVERNMENT HOW IT WOULD RESPOND
TO
A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT'S USE OF
SPYWARE AGAINST A PERSON IN
CANADA.
HERE'S THE RESPONSE... WE ARE
AWARE OF THE REPORT AND WE ARE
REVIEWING.
WE TAKE ANY SUCH ALLEGATIONS
VERY SERIOUSLY.
WE'RE FIRMLY COMMITTED TO
FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, INCLUDING
ONLINE.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ALLEGED
CRIMINAL ACTIVITY SHOULD BE
DIRECTED TO THE RCMP.
>> Rosemary: UP NEXT ON "THE
NATIONAL", WE'LL HAVE MORE ON
OUR TOP STORY IN MY INTERVIEW
WITH CHRYSTIA FREELAND.
THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS MINISTER
SPENT NEARLY 14 MONTHS
NEGOTIATING A NEW TRADE DEAL
ALONG WITH HER TEAM, OF COURSE.
WHY SHE ALWAYS KNEW THAT IT
WOULD BE DOWN TO THE WIRE AND
THE ROLES THAT DONALD TRUMP
PLAYED IN IT ALL.
THE PRESIDENT CLEARLY HAD SOME
SORT OF
ISSUE WITH YOU, THE FACT THAT
YOU'RE TOUGH AND YOU SEEM PRETTY
HARD TO KNOCK DOWN.
THAT OBVIOUSLY GOT UNDER HIS
SKIN FOR SOME REASON.
DO YOU THINK THAT THAT CHANGED
THINGS?
YOU THINK THAT YOU GOT IN THE
WAY?
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>> President Donald Trump:
THERE WAS A LOT OF TENSION, I
WILL SAY, BETWEEN HE AND I, I
THINK MORE SPECIFICALLY.
AND IT'S ALL WORKED OUT.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trud
WE GOT TO A RIGHT DEAL, A
WIN-WIN
Trudeau: WE WORKED VERY HARD.
WE GOT TO A RIGHT DEAL, A
WIN-WIN-WIN FOR ALL THREE
COUNTRIES.
>> Rosemary: SO FOR MONTHS OF
SLOW AND OFTEN TENSE TALKS TO
NOW THIS, A DEAL THAT ALL SIDES
SAY WAS A WINNING ONE.
THAT'S HOW THE TWO LEADERS
FRAMED THE AGREEMENT TODAY,
PUTTING TOUGH TALK ASIDE AND
FOCUSING NOW ON THE SELL.
BUT THE DEAL ITSELF LOOKS A BIT
DIFFERENT THAN WHAT MOST LEADERS
HAD NEARLY IMAGINED NEARLY 14
MONTHS AGO.
THE NEGOTIATING TACTICS AND THE
GOAL POSTS FOR WHAT WAS
CONSIDERED A GOOD DEAL HAS
CHANGED ALONG THE WAY AS THE
CANADA-U.S. RELATIONSHIP WAS PUT
TO THE TEST.
SO DID THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT
HAVE THE RIGHT STRATEGY?
IS THIS REALLY A WIN-WIN-WIN.
I SAT DOWN WITH CHRYSTIA
FREELAND EARLIER TODAY AT HER
PARLIAMENT HILL
OFFICE AND ASKED HER ABOUT THE
NEW TRADE DEAL.
GOOD TO SEE YOU, MINISTER.
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
GOOD TO SEE YOU, ROSIE.
YOU WERE UP LATE LAST NIGHT AS
WELL?
>> Rosemary: NOT AS LATE AS
YOU.
NOT AS LATE AS YOU, THANKFULLY.
WHEN DID YOU REALIZE THAT YOU
WOULD GET A DEAL, OVER THE PAST
72 HOURS?
NOT THE PAST 14 MONTHS.
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
YES AND I WAS GOING TO SAY --
AND THIS IS REALLY, REALLY TRUE
--
I WAS ALWAYS CONFIDENT THAT WE
WOULD GET A DEAL IN THE END.
I ALWAYS KNEW THAT THERE WAS
GOING TO BE A LOT OF DRAMA.
BUT THE REALITY IS THAT THIS IS
AN ECONOMIC RELATIONSHIP THAT
WORKS AND THAT IS BALANCED AND
MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL.
AND I REALLY BELIEVED ECONOMIC
LOGIC ULTIMATELY DOES PREVAIL.
BUT IN A TRADE DEAL YOU TALK
ABOUT TRADE NEGOTIATORS,
PROFESSIONAL GUYS, THEY TALK
ABOUT LANDING ZONES.
AND I THINK THAT
THERE WERE TWO KEY MOMENTS WHEN
THE LANDING ZONE BECAME APPARENT
TO ME.
THE AMERICAN SIDE STARTED OFF
DEMANDING 60% U.S. DOMESTIC
CONTENT IN CAR AND CAR PARTS.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DEVASTATING
FOR CANADA.
IN MARCH, AND I WANT TO GIVE
AMBASSADOR LIGHTHIZER FOR THIS,
THE USTR, WE CAME UP WITH THIS
IDEA OF LABOUR VALUE CONTENT.
SO INSTEAD OF IT BEING U.S., IT
WOULD BE HIGH-WAGE LABOUR WHICH,
OF COURSE, INCLUDES CANADA.
AND SUDDENLY THE U.S. AND
THE CANADIAN INTERESTS WERE
ALIGNED
AND THIS WAS A DEAL THAT CANADA
COULD DO IN CAR AND CAR PARTS
WHICH WAS ALWAYS THE MOST
COMPLICATED AND IMPORTANT PART
OF THE DEAL.
SO THAT FOR ME WAS MOMENT ONE.
MOMENT TWO WAS IN THE END OF
AUGUST WHEN WE FIRST WENT BACK
TO WASHINGTON.
AND WHEN IT WAS CLEAR THAT THE
CAR DEAL HAD BEEN CONCLUDED BY
THE MEXICANS AND ALSO THAT THE
AMERICANS REALLY WANTED US TO BE
PART OF IT.
WHICH ALSO MAKES SENSE.
THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A THREE-WAY
AGREEMENT.
THE CANADIAN ECONOMIC
RELATIONSHIP IS BY FAR THE MOST
VALUABLE ONE FOR THE AMERICANS.
SO IT BECAME CLEAR TO ME IN THAT
FIRST WEEK THAT AMBASSADOR
LIGHTHIZER HAD REAL GOODWILL TO
GETTING A DEAL.
AND I KNEW AT THAT POINT THAT WE
WOULD GET A DEAL.
I THINK THAT IT'S FAIR FOR ME
NOW TO REVEAL THAT I ALWAYS
THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN ON
SUNDAY NIGHT.
>> Rosemary: WHY DID YOU THINK
THAT?
BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF THE
NEGOTIATING STRATEGY?
NOT ON OUR BEHALF BUT THEIRS?
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
NO, WE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE
DONE IT -- REALISTICALLY IT
WASN'T POSSIBLE JUST BECAUSE THE
TIME IT TAKES UNTIL THE SPRING.
BUT WE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE
DONE IT IN THE SPRING OR ANYTIME
SUBSEQUENTLY.
I WAS ALWAYS CONVINCED THAT IT
WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL THE
11th HOUR BECAUSE AMBASSADOR
LIGHTHIZER AND HIS TEAM ARE
REALLY GOOD NEGOTIATORS AND SO
ARE WE.
AND SO EVERYONE JUST HAD TO KEEP
PUSHING UNTIL THE END.
>> Rosemary: SO, OKAY, I KNOW
THAT CHAPTER 19 WAS SORT OF
NAILED DOWN AND YOU WERE QUITE
PLEASED WITH THAT OVER THE
WEEKEND.
EXPLAIN TO CANADIANS WHY IT WAS
SO CRITICAL, WHY IT WAS
REALLY A BREAKING POINT, THAT IT
HAD TO BE THERE?
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
WHAT CHAPTER 19 DOES IS IT GIVES
US LAWS AND RULES THAT GOVERN
OUR TRADING RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE UNITED STATES AND AN
INDEPENDENT BI-NATIONAL PANEL
THAT DECIDES WHO IS RIGHT AND
WHO IS WRONG.
WE CANADIANS UNDERSTAND HOW
CLOSE OUR TIES WITH THE UNITED
STATES ARE, HOW CRITICAL THEY
ARE, BUT ALSO THAT THEY ARE BIG
AND WE ARE SMALL.
AND SO THE WAY TO MAKE THAT WORK
IS TO HAVE A SET OF RULES AND TO
HAVE AN INDEPENDENT PLACE THAT
YOU CAN GO TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S
IN THE RIGHT AND WHO ISN'T.
CHAPTER 19 IS THAT.
>> Rosemary: FINE.
BUT --
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
FINE?
EXCELLENT!
THIS MATTERS A LOT IN
SOUTHWESTERN ONTARIO.
>> Rosemary: BUT YOU CANNOT
SAY THAT NOW NAFTA 2.0 IS MORE
MANAGED TRADE, RATHER THAN FREER
TRADE.
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
NOT AT ALL.
WHERE IS THE MANAGED ELEMENT?
>> Rosemary: DAIRY, PHARMA,
CHICKEN.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
THIS IS NOT -- YOU COULD NOT
TELL ME THAT THIS IS A FREER
TRADE DEAL THAN WHAT YOU HAD
BEFORE.
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
I ACTUALLY, ROSIE, WOULD
COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH THE
PREMISE OF THAT QUESTION.
AND I AM NOT IN FAVOUR OF
BRINGING IN MANAGED TRADE
ELEMENTS TO A TRADE AGREEMENT,
AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT HERE.
WHEN IT COMES TO SUPPLY
MANAGEMENT THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN
MANAGED TRADE BECAUSE OF THE
NATURE OF THE CANADIAN SUPPLY
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
>> Rosemary: SURE, SURE.
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
ON CARS THE TRADE IS EXACTLY AS
IT HAS BEEN BEFORE, BUT WITH NEW
RULES OF ORIGIN.
>> Rosemary: AND QUOTAS IF 232
GET APPLIED.
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
BUT THE QUOTAS ARE NOT ACTUALLY
PART OF
THE AGREEMENT.
AND I AM GLAD THAT YOU ASKED THE
QUESTION BECAUSE THERE IS --
THIS IS A MISAPPREHENSION THAT I
HAVE HEARD FROM OTHER PEOPLE AND
IT IS JUST WRONG.
THERE ARE -- AND I WANT TO BE
VERY, VERY CLEAR -- THERE ARE NO
QUOTAS IN NAFTA ON CAR SALES
BETWEEN THE U.S. AND CANADA.
THERE ARE NO QUOTAS ON CAR
PARTS.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE SIDE LETTER
ON 232 ON CARS AND CAR PARTS, I
THINK THAT THE WAY TO THINK
ABOUT THAT IS THAT IT'S LIKE A
FLOOD INSURANCE POLICY.
>> Rosemary: OKAY.
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
A FLOOD IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO
HAPPEN.
BUT A PRUDENT PERSON, IF THEY
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET AN
INSURANCE POLICY, WILL CERTAINLY
GET ONE.
SO WHAT THAT SIDE LETTER DOES IS
THAT IT GIVES US SOME COMFORT
THAT IN THE -- I BELIEVE IN
FRANKLY THE VERY UNLIKELY EVENT
THAT THE U.S. WERE TO IMPOSE 232
TARIFFS ON CARS AND CAR PARTS,
THAT WE WOULD HAVE A HUGE PART,
ACTUALLY WELL OVER OUR CURRENT
LEVEL OF TRADE WITH THE U.S.,
WOULD BE GUARANTEED NOT TO BE
EXPOSED TO THOSE.
BUT THIS IS A KIND OF AN
UNLIKELY, A VERY UNLIKELY
SCENARIO INSURANCE POLICY.
IT IS NOT PART OF THE MAIN
AGREEMENT.
>> Rosemary: THAT IS IMPORTANT
AND THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO EXPLAIN
IT.
DID YOU SACRIFICE THE STEEL AND
ALUMINUM THOUGH TO PROTECT
AUTOS?
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
NOT AT ALL.
AND I HAVE BEEN REALLY, REALLY
CLEAR FROM DAY ONE WHEN 232
STARTED TO BE DISCUSSED THAT IT
WAS ON A COMPLETELY SEPARATE
TRACK FROM NAFTA.
THAT'S HOW IT HAS BEEN.
>> Rosemary: IT MAY BE, BUT
IT'S PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT IT'S
HANGING OVER YOUR HEAD WHEN
YOU'RE HAVING THESE
CONVERSATIONS.
THAT'S THE POINT.
WHETHER IT'S ON A SEPARATE TRACK
OR NOT.
IT'S THERE.
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
IT IS BOTH LEGALLY AND AS A
MATTER OF WHAT ARE YOU THERE
ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT, IT'S ON
A COMPLETELY SEPARATE TRACK.
AND IN TERMS OF THE HANGING OVER
YOUR HEAD ASPECT OF THINGS, ONE
THING THAT WE WERE VERY CLEAR ON
ON THE CANADIAN SIDE IS THAT WE
WERE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE
FACT-BASED ARGUMENTS.
WE WERE ALWAYS GOING TO LOOK FOR
COMPROMISES, CREATIVE
COMPROMISES, AS I THINK THAT WE
DID TOGETHER WITH THE UNITED
STATES AND RULES OF ORIGIN AND
THE CAR SECTOR.
WE WERE ALWAYS GOING TO BE
POLITE.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE
WERE ALSO GOING TO BE FIRM AND
RESOLUTE AND WE WERE GOING TO
STAND UP FOR CANADA.
AND I THINK THAT WE DID THAT.
>> Rosemary: THE PRESIDENT
CLEARLY HAD SOME SORT OF ISSUE
WITH YOU.
DO YOU THINK THAT HIS IMPRESSION
OF YOU IS SOMEWHAT COLOURED THE
TALKS, THE FACT THAT YOU'RE
TOUGH, YOU SEEM PRETTY HARD TO
KNOCK DOWN.
THAT OBVIOUSLY GOT UNDER HIS
SKIN FOR SOME REASON.
DO YOU THINK THAT THAT CHANGED
THINGS?
DO YOU THINK THAT YOU GOT IN THE
WAY?
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ROSIE, I WOULD
SAY THAT MY NEGOTIATING
COUNTERPARTS IS AMBASSADOR
LIGHTHIZER.
AND WE CERTAINLY HAD MANY TOUGH
MOMENTS IN THE NEGOTIATIONS AND
THAT IS IN ANY NEGOTIATION OF
THIS COMPLEXITY.
BUT I AM VERY
CONFIDENT THAT AMBASSADOR
LIGHTHIZER THROUGHOUT WAS
NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH.
AND HE WAS A SMART -- WAS AND IS
-- A SMART AND A CREATIVE
COUNTER PARTY TO NEGOTIATE WITH.
>> Rosemary: BUT HE'S TOUGH.
HE SAYS HE'S A TOUGH CURMUDGEON.
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
I DON'T THINK THAT ANY COUNTRY
WOULD
LIKE SOMEONE TO LEAD THEIR
CRUCIAL NEGOTIATIONS WHO IS NOT
TOUGH.
FOR CANADA, WHAT WE BELIEVE IN
DOING IS ABSOLUTELY TO HAVE
BACKBONE.
I DON'T THINK THAT CANADIANS
WOULD LIKE US TO TAKE ANY OTHER
APPROACH.
BUT ALWAYS BEING POLITE, ALWAYS
HAVING ARGUMENTS
BASED ON FACTS, AND ALWAYS
LOOKING FOR COMPROMISE.
AND THE FINAL THING THAT I WILL
SAY ABOUT THIS, ROSIE, IS THAT
I'M PAID IN CANADIAN DOLLARS.
MY JOB IS TO GET THE BEST
POSSIBLE DEAL FOR CANADIANS AND
TO SERVE CANADIANS.
AND THAT'S WHAT MATTERS.
>> Ian: UP NEXT ON "THE
NATIONAL," AS LAS VEGAS PAUSES
TONIGHT TO MARK ONE YEAR SINCE A
GUNMAN OPENED FIRE AT A MUSIC
FESTIVAL YOU'LL HEAR FROM A
CANADIAN WHO SURVIVED THE ATTACK
AS SHE DESCRIBES A YEAR TRYING
TO RECOVER BOTH PHYSICALLY AND
EMOTIONALLY.
>> Reporter: YOU TRIED TO SEE
SOME SHOWS OUTSIDE?
>> I DID, BUT I CAN'T DO IT.
THERE'S JUST SOMETHING THAT IS
IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, I
GUESS, THAT JUST DOESN'T FEEL
RIGHT.
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>> Andrew: WE ARE WATCHING THE
SITUATION IN INDONESIA TONIGHT
AND THE STUNNING AFTERMATH OF AN
EARTHQUAKE AND TSUMANI THAT
STRUCK ON FRIDAY.
NEW IMAGES ARE REVEALING
DEVASTATION THAT IS SOMETIMES
HARD TO BELIEVE BUT TODAY'S GRIM
TASKS ARE ALL TOO REAL.
BURYING HUNDREDS OF DEAD TO WARD
OFF DISEASE, AND SEARCHING FOR
HUNDREDS MORE WHO MAY STILL BE
ALIVE UNDER THE RUBBLE.
THE OFFICIAL DEATH TOLL HAS
RISEN TO 842 AND THE GOVERNMENT
SAYS THAT IT COULD CLIMB INTO
THE THOUSANDS.
BUT THREE DAYS AFTER THIS TWIN
DISASTER, INCREDIBLY, LIVES ARE
STILL BEING SAVED.
THESE RESCUE WORKERS PULLED A
MAN FROM THE RUINS WHERE HE HAD
BEEN TRAPPED SINCE FRIDAY.
AND NEARBY ANOTHER RESCUE, THIS
TIME IT'S A WOMAN WHO IS PULLED
TO SAFETY.
BUT THE HARD TRUTH IS THAT MOST
TEAMS ARE RECOVERING BODIES.
THESE SCENES ALL PLAYED OUT IN
PALU, A HARBOUR CITY OF ABOUT
330,000 PEOPLE.
ON FRIDAY A 7.5 MAGNITUDE
EARTHQUAKE STRUCK NORTH OF
THERE, TRIGGERING A TSUNAMI THAT
SENT TOWERING WAVES CRASHING ON
THE WATERFRONT.
BUILDINGS ALONG THE SHORELINE
WERE PRACTICALLY FLATTENED, BUT
TODAY THE BEACH WAS A WELCOMING
REFUGE FOR SOME OF THE 4,000
PEOPLE LEFT HOMELESS.
AT THE AIRPORT SOME OF THE
INJURED AND OTHER VULNERABLE
PEOPLE WERE PREPARED FOR
EVACUATION AS SUPPLIES WERE
UNLOADED FOR THOSE REMAINING.
TODAY WE GOT A FIRST GOOD LOOK
AT DONGGALA, A REMOTE AREA CLOSE
TO THE QUAKE'S EPI-CENTRE AND
VERY HARD HIT AND VERY HARD FOR
RESCUERS TO GET TO.
THIS MAN SAID THAT AID TOOK TOO
LONG TO ARRIVE.
BACK IN PALU THE PUSH IS ON TO
BURY BODIES AS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE BUT ALSO TO IDENTIFY
THEM.
SOME PEOPLE WERE SEEN OPENING UP
BODY BAGS IN A LAST DITCH
ATTEMPT TO FIND THEIR LOVED
ONES.
>> Ian: IN A SOMBRE ANNIVERSARY
TODAY IN LAS VEGAS A SUNRISE
CEREMONY TO MARK ONE YEAR SINCE
THE LARGEST MASS SHOOTING IN
MODERN AMERICAN HISTORY.
58 PEOPLE WERE KILLED, INCLUDING
FOUR CANADIANS, WHEN A GUNMAN
OPENED FIRE AT AN OUTDOOR
COUNTRY MUSIC FESTIVAL.
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[BAGPIPES PLAYING]
>> WE HAVE ALL CHANGED, WE HAVE
ALL BEEN BROKEN.
BUT WE CAN FIND A WAY TO PICK UP
THOSE PIECES AND GLUE IT ALL
BACK TOGETHER.
>> Ian: ANITA SMITH'S SISTER
DIED THAT DAY.
HER SPEECH WAS FOLLOWED BY 58
SECONDS OF SILENCE, ONE FOR EACH
OF THE VICTIMS AND THEN A
RELEASE OF WHITE DOVES.
>> EACH DOVE WILL HAVE A NAME ON
ITS FOOT TO REPRESENT OUR 58
ANGELS.
PLEASE KEEP THEM IN YOUR
THOUGHTS ALWAYS.
>> Ian: MORE THAN 800 OTHER
PEOPLE WERE HURT IN THE SHOOTING
AND THE PANIC THAT FOLLOWED.
AMONG THEM IS 47-YEAR-OLD JAN
LAMBOURNE WHO IS FROM TEULON,
MANITOBA.
SHE WAS STANDING NEAR THE LEFT
SIDE OF THE STAGE WHEN SHE WAS
STRUCK BY A BULLET AND ONE YEAR
LATER SHE'S STRUGGLING TO HEAL
BOTH PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY.
BRIAR STEWART HAS HER STORY.
>> SORRY.
>> Reporter: CLIMBING THESE
STAIRS IS BOTH A PHYSICAL AND A
MENTAL BATTLE FOR JAN LAMBOURNE.
EACH STRENUOUS STEP DEMONSTRATES
HOW FAR SHE'S COME.
>> WE MADE IT.
WELL, WHO NEEDS PHYSIO.
WE'RE GOOD.
>> Reporter: BUT THE PAIN IS A
REMINDER OF JUST HOW SHE ENDED
UP HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
>> THE BODY IS DEFINITELY
GETTING STRONGER.
I HAVE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT THIS
YEAR.
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(singing).
>> Reporter: IT BEGAN AS A
LONG WEEKEND AWAY TO SEE HER
FAVOURITE COUNTRY SINGERS IN LAS
VEGAS.
IT WAS LAMBOURNE'S FIRST TRIP TO
THE CITY ON THE FINAL NIGHT JUST
BEFORE 10:00 p.m..
SHE SNAPPED THIS PIC OF JASON
ALDEAN ON STAGE.
(gunshots).
JUST A FEW MINUTES LATER THE
NIGHTMARE BEGAN.
(gunshots)[SCREAMING]
>> RUN, KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN!
RUN!
GO!
>> Reporter: THE THOUSANDS
GATHERED WERE FROM UNDER ATTACK
FROM WHERE AND BY WHOM THEY
DIDN'T KNOW THEN.
(gunshots).
>> Reporter: THE RAPID
GUNSHOTS HAD CAUSED PANIC.
>> I LOOKED DOWN AND I COULD SEE
THAT I WAS BLEEDING AND THE
REALITY WAS THAT I HAD BEEN
SHOT.
>> Reporter: WE FIRST MET
LAMBOURNE IN THE HOSPITAL 36
HOURS
AFTER SHE WAS SHOT IN THE
ABDOMEN.
SHE HAD TEXTED HER HUSBAND
TO SAY SHE LOVED HIM BECAUSE SHE
WAS AFRAID THAT SHE WASN'T GOING
TO MAKE IT.
LIVING THROUGH THAT TERROR HAS
SCARRED HER BODY.
>> ALL I COULD THINK ABOUT...
>> Reporter: AND SHAPED HER
LIFE.
>> OKAY.
>> Reporter: LAMBOURNE HAS
SPENT
MOST OF THE LAST YEAR IN THIS
ROOM TRYING TO HEAL.
HER PELVIS WAS SHATTERED.
FOR SEVEN MONTHS SHE SAT AND
SLEPT IN A HOSPITAL BED HERE AND
THEN HAD TO RELEARN HOW TO WALK.
>> I'VE GRADUATED TO THE CANE SO
I'M FEELING QUITE PROUD OF
MYSELF, YEAH.
>> Reporter: SO WHAT'S THE
NEXT GOAL THEN?
>> JUST TO BE PAIN FREE AND GET
RID OF THAT CONSTANT REMINDER,
IT WOULD BE THE BEST GOAL.
YEAH.
>> Reporter: BECAUSE WHAT
HAPPENED IN VEGAS CONTINUES TO
PLAY OUT IN HER MIND.
SHE'S BEEN SEEING A MENTAL
HEALTH THERAPIST SINCE THE
SHOOTING.
>> IT'S HARD TO PUT THINGS
ASIDE.
THEY WON'T GO AWAY BUT HOPEFULLY
IT WILL GET EASIER.
>> Reporter: MANY OF THE
THINGS THAT SHE ONCE LOVED NOW
INDUCE ANXIETY.
SHE'S A BIG FAN OF THE WINNIPEG
BLUE BOMBERS BUT GOING TO AN
OPEN AIR STADIUM LAST MONTH AND
WALKING THROUGH THE CROWDS
TRIGGERED HER.
HOW IS IT WHEN YOU'RE OUTSIDE IN
A BIG AREA LIKE THAT?
>> I'M NOT GOING TO LIE, I WAS
SCANNING THE PLACE.
NOBODY WAS WORRIED.
THEY DON'T NEED TO BE.
YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS JUST MY
MIND NOW.
>> Reporter: AND YOU TRIED TO
SEE SOME SHOWS OUTSIDE?
>> I DID, BUT I CAN'T DO IT.
THERE'S JUST SOMETHING THAT IS
JUST IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, I
GUESS, THAT JUST DOESN'T FEEL
RIGHT.
GUESS, THAT JUST DOESN'T FEEL
RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I REALLY NEED THAT
SECURITY FEELING RIGHT NOW.
HERE WE GO.
YOU KNOW, I REALLY NEED THAT
SECURITY FEELING RIGHT NOW.
HERE WE GO.
>> Reporter: WHICH IS WHY
SHE'S BEEN STICKING CLOSE TO
HOME AND SPENDING TIME IN HERE.
>> THIS IS MY GO-TO SPOT WHEN I
NEED TO JUST HAVE TIME TO
MYSELF.
JUST TO COME IN AND TO BREATHE,
REFLECT, THIS IS REPLACING ALL
OF YOUR BAD MEMORIES WITH GOOD
MEMORIES.
>> Reporter: IT'S A ROOM
DEDICATED TO
HER LOVE OF COUNTRY MUSIC.
THERE ARE MEMENTOS FROM THE FEW
SHOWS SHE'S SEEN SINCE THE
FESTIVAL.
>> MY SURVIVOR FLAG.
HER LOVE OF COUNTRY MUSIC.
THERE ARE MEMENTOS FROM THE FEW
SHOWS SHE'S SEEN SINCE THE
FESTIVAL.
>> MY SURVIVOR FLAG.
>> Reporter: BUT MOSTLY A
TRIBUTE TO THE VICTIMS AND
SURVIVORS OF VEGAS.
EVEN THOUGH SHE SEES IT AS A
REFUGE, A PLACE TO RECLAIM
MEMORIES --
>> EVERY DAY IS A NEW DAY.
CAN I COME OUT NOW?
>> Reporter: IT SOMETIMES GETS
A LITTLE TOO MUCH.
>> THAT'S ME GETTING ANXIETY AND
WALKING AWAY.
(*)
>> Reporter: ONE YEAR ON
INVESTIGATORS STILL DON'T KNOW
WHY THE GUNMAN CHECKED INTO HIS
ROOM ON THE 32nd FLOOR OF THE
MANDALAY BAY HOTEL, ARMED WITH
AN ARSENAL OF WEAPONS DESIGNED
TO KILL AS MANY AS POSSIBLE.
WHEN POLICE ENTERED HIS ROOM
THEY FOUND HIM DEAD.
HE HAD KILLED HIMSELF.
IN THE PAST YEAR INVESTIGATORS
HAVE PIECED TOGETHER HOW THE
CAREFULLY CALCULATED SHOOTING
UNFOLDED, BUT HAVE NEVER BEEN
ABLE TO DETERMINE JUST WHAT
MOTIVATED HIM.
DOES IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO
YOU STILL NOT KNOWING WHERE ON
-- WHY ON SOME LEVEL?
>> REALLY, WHAT IS THE REASON?
YOU KNOW, SOME ASSHOLE DIDN'T
THINK THAT MY LIFE WAS WORTH
LIVING, THAT WE DIDN'T NEED TO
BE HERE, THAT OUR FAMILIES
DIDN'T NEED US?
LIKE, YEAH, NOT KNOWING -- WOULD
IT
HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE?
I MEAN, WHATEVER WAS IN HIS MIND
WE'LL NEVER KNOW.
A LOT OF VISITORS OVER THE
WINTER.
A LOT OF COFFEE.
>> Reporter: LAMBOURNE SAYS
THAT
SHE'S ONLY BEEN ABLE TO GET
THROUGH THE PAST YEAR BECAUSE OF
FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
PERHAPS HER BIGGEST HELP HAS
BEEN THE CONNECTIONS SHE MADE
WITH OTHER SURVIVORS FROM VEGAS.
ON THE NIGHT OF THE SHOOTING
LAMBOURNE DRAGGED HERSELF INTO A
MERCHANDISE TENT AND HID UNDER A
WHEELBARROW BLEEDING.
THAT'S WHERE JUSTIN UHART FOUND
HER
AND NEVER LEFT HER SIDE UNTIL
SHE WENT INTO SURGERY.
>> HEY.
HO
HER
AND NEVER LEFT HER SIDE UNTIL
SHE WENT INTO SURGERY.
>> HEY.
HOW YOU DOING?
>> Reporter: THEY WERE
REUNITED IN THE HOSPITAL IN LAS
VEGAS AND NOW TALK ALL THE TIME.
>> I'M HERE BECAUSE UHART,
THAT'S THE LAST NAME OF THE
YOUNG MAN THAT SAVED MY LIFE.
>> Reporter: SHE NOW HAS A
PERMANENT TRIBUTE TO HIM ALONG
WITH THE VICTIMS.
>> TO HEAL, AND NEVER FORGET, TO
>> Reporter: SHE NOW HAS A
PERMANENT TRIBUTE TO HIM ALONG
WITH THE VICTIMS.
>> TO HEAL, AND NEVER FORGET, TO
HONOUR THE ONES THAT WE LOST, TO
CELEBRATE THE LIFE THAT WE HAD
-- HAVE, PARDON ME.
I NEVER HAD ANYTHING THAT MEANS
SO MUCH.
>> Reporter: SHE SAYS THAT
THESE WORDS GIVE HER STRENGTH TO
DEAL WITH THE MEMORIES THAT SHE
KNOWS WILL ALWAYS BE THERE AND
IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT JUST HOW
TO LIVE WITH.
BRIAR STEWART, CBC NEWS, NEAR
TEULON, MANITOBA.
>> Andrew: WE'LL HAVE MORE
AHEAD ON "THE NATIONAL."
"THE MOMENT" IS NEXT.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
>> Andrew: VOTERS IN QUEBEC MADE
ELECTION HISTORY TONIGHT,
BREAKING A HALF-CENTURY-LONG
CYCLE OF LIBERAL AND PARTI
QUEBECOIS GOVERNMENT.
THERE'S A NEW PARTY IN POWER,
LET BY FRANCOIS LEGAULT.
IT WILL BE A MAJORITY
GOVERNMENT.
IT TOOK THE PARTY A HALF-HOUR TO
SEAL THE DEAL.
THAT'S OUR "MOMENT OF THE DAY."
>> CBC IS PREDICTING IT WILL BE
A CAQ-MAJORITY GOVERNMENT.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
>> IT'S PARTY TIME.
YES!
[APPLAUS
[APPLAUSE]
>> Ian: I'VE WATCHED BOTH OF YOU
COVERING QUEBEC ELECTIONS OVER
THE YEARS.
ANDREW, YOUR REFLECTION TONIGHT?
>> Andrew: IT'S INTERESTING THAT
WE SAW TWO RACES TONIGHT, ONE AT
THE TOP BETWEEN THE LIBERALS AND
THE CAQ, AND THE OTHER AT THE
PARTY, THE PARTI QUEBECOIS AND
QUEBEC SOLIDAIRE.
AND PARTI QUEBECOIS JUST
DECIMATED.
AND QUEBEC SOLIDAIRE, WENT UP TO
LIKE 10 SEATS.
>> Rosemary: IN 1936, MAURICE
DUPLESSIS WENT INTO POWER.
AND '86, WHEN PARTI QUEBECOIS
WAS ELECTED.
IT WILL FALL IN LINE WITH BIG
QUEBEC ELECTION MOMENTS.
THAT'S "THE NATIONAL" FOR
OCTOBER 1.
GOOD NIGHT, EVERYONE.
>> Andrew: GOOD NIGHT.
>> Ian: GOOD NIGHT.
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