>> THE REASON I BECAME A TEACHER
WAS BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE I'VE
SURROUNDED MYSELF WITH AND THIS
COMMUNITY.
ABIGAIL: BUT THAT TEACHER, LIKE
MANY OTHERS, LEAVING THE STATE
FOR BETTER PAY.
EVEN OKLAHOMA'S 2016 TEACHER OF
THE YEAR IS LEAVING TO GO TO
TEXAS.
WE ARE CONTINUING OUR
CONVERSATION WITH STATE
SUPERINTENDANT JOY HOFMEISTER.
JUST LAST WEEK, A DISTRICT FROM
NORTH CAROLINA CAME HERE TO
RECRUIT OUR TEACHERS PROMISING
BETTER PAY.
BETTER BENEFITS.
HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?
THEY ARE APPROACHING OUR
TEACHERS.
>> IT IS HEARTBREAKING AND
UNDERSTANDABLE.
WE HAVE AMONG THE BEST TEACHERS.
IT IS NO WONDER OTHER STATES AND
DISTRICTS OUTSIDE OKLAHOMA ARE
RECRUITING THOSE TOP TALENT AND
WONDERFULLY TALENTED
PROFESSIONALS HERE.
WE UNDERSTAND, TOO, THAT
TEACHERS WERE HOLDING ON FIRST
TO SEE IF STATE QUESTION 779
WOULD PASS.
THAT WOULD HAVE GIVEN AN
IMMEDIATE $5,000
ACROSS-THE-BOARD PAY RAISE.
THE VOTERS OF OKLAHOMA SAID NO.
THEY WANTED THE LEGISLATURE TO
MAKE THAT CHANGE, AND THAT WAS
SOMETHING THAT THE LEGISLATURE
WAS UNABLE TO DO THIS SESSION.
IT IS HEARTBREAKING, BECAUSE
THIS IS A PROBLEM AFFECTING
KIDS.
TEACHERS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT
PEOPLE IN A SCHOOLHOUSE
AFFECTING POSITIVE, HIGHER
ACADEMIC OUTCOMES FOR KIDS.
THAT IS WHY IT WILL REMAIN A TOP
PRIORITY FOR ME.
WE MUST HAVE COMPETITIVE PAY TO
KEEP AND ATTRACT GREAT PEOPLE.
ABIGAIL: YOU ARE AN EDUCATOR FOR
A LONG TIME.
NOW A SUPERINTENDENT.
WOULD YOU WANT TO BE A TEACHER
IN OKLAHOMA?
>> ABSOLUTELY, YES.
I'M COMMITTED TO THE CHILDREN OF
OKLAHOMA.
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE TO STAY
ARE HERE, COMMITTED, AND WITH
EVER-EXEMPLARY DEDICATION TO THE
CHILDREN AND THE CRISIS WE HAVE.
THEY WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
WE HAVE TO WORK ON WHAT WE CAN
CONTROL.
THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION, WE ARE UNABLE TO
GENERATE NEW REVENUE FOR
TEACHERS.
IT IS A LOCAL DECISION TO GIVE
PAY ABOVE THE STATE MINIMUM.
ABOUT HALF OF THE SCHOOLS DO,
BUT IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO BE
COMPETITIVE.
WE ARE AT THE BOTTOM AND THIS IS
NOT ACCEPTABLE.
THIS IS NO WAY TO COMPETE AND
OUR KIDS DESERVE BETTER.
ABIGAIL: THOSE TEACHERS WE
TALKED TO WERE NOT LEAVING
BECAUSE THEY WANTED A BETTER
LIFESTYLE, BUT THEY SAID, I HAVE
TO DO THIS FOR MY FAMILY.
YOU DON'T WANT TO GUILT TRIP
THEM FOR THAT, BUT
UNFORTUNATELY, YOU UNDERSTAND,
BUT WHEN YOU SEE OUR TOP
TEACHERS GOING OR GETTING
POACHED, IT SUCKS, AND BREAK
YOUR HEART.
AS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, THIS
BUDGET WAS JUST PASSED BY OUR
STATE LEGISLATURE, SIGNED BY THE
GOVERNOR, TO FILL OUR STATE'S
$900 MILLION BUDGET SHORTFALL.
IT DID NOT INCLUDE A TEACHER PAY
RAISE.
HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS
BUDGET THAT WAS PASSED?
>> IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE
PRESERVE THE SCHOOL FUNDING
FORMULA.
WE WORKED WITH THE LEGISLATURE
TO MAKE SURE THEY PAID 100% OF
THE HEALTH CARE BENEFIT, AN
OBLIGATION IN CURRENT LAW FOR
TEACHERS.
WE WATCH THAT CAREFULLY SO THAT
THERE WOULD NOT BE A CHANGING OF
ONE FUND TO ANOTHER, WHICH
REALLY MEANT A ZERO-SUM GAME FOR
TEACHERS.
IT IS A PRIMARY FOCUS FOR US TO
MAKE CERTAIN KIDS IN CLASSROOMS
ARE FUNDED FIRST, AND THEN A
TEACHER PAY RAISE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE REVENUE WAS
NOT GENERATED TO DO WHAT I
BELIEVE WE MUST HAVE,
COMPETITIVE TEACHER PAY.
ALSO DO NOT WANT TO MINIMIZE THE
FACT THAT THOSE GREAT TEACHERS
THAT WE ALL KNOW, A TEACHER OF
THE YEAR LEAVING FOR ANOTHER
STATE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE
ANY LACK OF FOCUS ON THE GREAT
TEACHERS THAT HAVE REMAINED.
SOME HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STAY, AND
WE UNDERSTAND THAT IS A
PERSONAL, INDIVIDUAL DECISION.
EVERYONE IN OUR SCHOOLS TODAY
LOVES KIDS AND THEY ARE
THEREFORE THAT COMMITMENT TO
KIDS.
ABIGAIL: WE HAD A LOT OF VIEWER
QUESTIONS FOR YOU ABOUT THE
BUDGET, TEACHER PAY RAISES.
MARK SAYS, WHERE WERE YOU DURING
THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WHY
WERE YOU NOT ADVOCATING FOR
BETTER PAY?
>> WELL, WE WERE ADVOCATING.
IT WAS VERY VIGILANT.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT
HELPFUL TO BE OUT THERE, TAKING
ONE POSITION ON ONE WAY TO BRING
WRITTEN REVENUE.
-- BRING IN REVENUE.
WE ARE MOST GUARDING AGAINST
TERRIBLE CUTS OR GAMES THAT CAN
BE PLAYED, WHICH LOOK A CERTAIN
WAY, AND PEOPLE MAY BE CONFUSED
ABOUT WHAT MAY HAVE OCCURRED.
WE MAKE CERTAIN OUR AGENDA MOVES
FORWARD, AND THAT AGENDA IS TO
PROVIDE A COMPETITIVE EDUCATION
FOR KIDS, COMPETITIVE
COMPENSATION FOR TEACHERS.
WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THOSE
WHO WERE AT THE LEGISLATURE
WORKING ALONGSIDE US.
BUT I APPRECIATE IT IS OFTEN
UNKNOWN AND NETWORK DOES NOT
STOP, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY,
WHEN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION
ENDS.
ABIGAIL: A COUPLE PEOPLE WANTED
TO KNOW -- YOU ARE NOT A
LAWMAKER, FOR EVERYONE.
YOU ARE MORE OF A LOBBYIST.
YOU ARE PUSHING AN AGENDA FOR
THE STATE OF EDUCATION.
THAT IS YOUR MAIN GOAL.
THE NEXT VIEWER QUESTION.
DO YOU WIELD ANY INFLUENCE THAT
WILL ALLOW FOR BETTER EDUCATION
OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR CHILDREN?
IF NOT, THEN WHAT IS THE POINT
OF YOUR JOB?
KIND OF PIGGYBACKING ON OUR
PREVIOUS QUESTION.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE MAIN
PURPOSE OF YOUR JOB?
>> IT IS VERY MUCH ABOUT VISION
CASTING, MAKING SURE WE HAVE A
PLAN.
ON FRIDAY, WE ROLLED OUT OUR
EIGHT-YEAR STATE PLAN FOR
EDUCATION, WHICH IS PART OF OUR
YEAR-LONG WORK WHICH HAS
INCLUDED OKLAHOMANS FROM ALL
OVER THE STATE THROUGH MANY TOWN
HALLS, THOUSANDS INVOLVED IN THE
COMMUNITIES.
THAT WORK IS SOMETHING YOU TAKE
TO THE LEGISLATURE, WHICH WE DID
, AND WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE EVERY
ONE OF OUR LAWS, BILLS THAT WE
INTRODUCE TO LEGISLATORS PASSED.
THIS INCLUDES COMPLETE REFORM OF
OUR ASSESSMENTS, WHICH AFFECTS
EVERY STUDENT IN THE CLASSROOMS
ACROSS THE STATE.
TESTING HAS BEEN CHANGED.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE NEW
FEDERAL LAW THAT WE ARE WORKING
TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT OKLAHOMA'S
VOICE, CONTEXT IS ABLE TO COMPLY
IN A WAY THAT FITS OUR NEEDS.
ABIGAIL: THE QUESTION ABOUT
STANDARDIZED TESTING.
PARENTS HAVE STRONG OPINIONS ON
THAT.
THIS ONE COMES FROM MARK.
WITH TEACHERS LEAVING FOR BETTER
PAY, IS THERE ANY CONCERN OF A
SHORTAGE OF TEACHERS?
IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS
BEGUN FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS.
WHEN I TOOK OFFICE, I BROUGHT
FORWARD A PAY RAISE OF $5,000,
ASKED THAT TO BE -- WE WOULD BE
COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER AREAS
ACROSS THE NATION.
WITH THE SHORTFALL WE HAVE HAD,
WITH REVENUE FAILURES, IT HAS
BEEN IMPOSSIBLE.
THAT IS TRULY AN OUTRAGE.
WE CANNOT EXCEPT THIS.
WE CANNOT HAVE ANOTHER YEAR LIKE
WE HAVE HAD, WHERE WE HAVE
ESSENTIALLY DIVESTED IN
EDUCATION.
FOR OKLAHOMA TO BE COMPETITIVE,
OUR KIDS DESERVE BETTER, AND WE
WILL FIGHT FOR THAT, BUT WE DO
NOT GET TO CAST A VOTE.
WE HAVE TO CONTROL WHAT WE CAN.
THAT MEANS WORKING WITH
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT WE CAN
DO WITH RETIRED TEACHERS, TO
BRING THEM BACK INTO THE
CLASSROOM.
THAT IS ONE OF THE LAWS THAT
CAME INTO EFFECT.
WE WORKED ABOUT TWO YEARS TO GET
THAT, SO THAT TEACHERS COULD
RETURN WITHOUT PENALTY.
ABIGAIL: NOW THAT THIS
LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS OVER, THE
BUDGET IS PASSED, TEACHERS ARE
NOT GETTING A PAY RAISE, LEAVING
TO GO OTHER PLACES.
YOU HAVE SOME OF THESE TEACHERS
STAYING IN OKLAHOMA.
I HAD SOME AMAZING TEACHERS THAT
ARE STILL HERE TO THIS DAY.
HOW ARE YOU FEELING RIGHT NOW,
FRUSTRATED, HOPEFUL?
>> I AM HOPEFUL BECAUSE OF ALL
THE PLANS THAT ARE RIGHT NOW
BEING IMPLEMENTED THAT ARE GOING
TO ALLOW FOR MEANINGFUL TIME ON
INSTRUCTION.
TEACHERS HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT
WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE MAKING
THE SAME MONEY AS THE BUSINESS
MAJOR, EVEN THOUGH WE HAD THE
SAME BACHELORS AND SCIENCE
DEGREE.
WHEN WE NEEDED WAS MORE
AUTONOMY, THE ABILITY TO SAY
YES, SET HIGH STANDARDS, BUT
GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO GET OUT OF
THE WAY AND LET TEACHERS TEACH.
THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE FOCUSED,
REMOVING THOSE HURDLES THAT KEEP
UNNECESSARY RED TAPE AND
RIDICULOUS REQUIREMENTS OUT OF
THE WAY, OFF THE TABLE, SO THAT
OUR TEACHERS CAN FOCUS ON WHAT
MATTERS MOST, DOING WHAT IS BEST
FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL CHILD.
OUR FOCUS IS ON INDIVIDUAL
STUDENTS AND LEARNING FOR THE
LONG RUN.
ABIGAIL: STATE SUPERINTENDENT
JOY HOFMEISTER, THANK YOU FOR
BEING WITH US.
WE WILL BE PUTTING THE
INFORMATION ON THE SUMMER
FEEDING PROGRAM ON OUR WEBSITE.
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