kevin: so ya know this is common
this sounds like spring day almost
umu: cuz it's in eb
yeah no no Db
so it's I, iii, vi, IV
that's your basic one
yunyi: plagal cadence!
yeah
yes. what they- what they did for most of it was
I, iii, vi, iv, which is the note that kills me,
but then, somewhere after the bridge they did something very cool which is
so you know this is a iii. when iii gets turned to major, it's actually the V of the iv chord
so there was
and then they went down there again so it was like up, down boom boom
it was like...yeah
*Rossini's Semiramide Overture plays*
umu: girl group this is Twice gwen: ohh ahh
umu: this is their very first song this is their debut song and it's called
henry: ohh ahh
umu: ooooHah
Lindsey: 3
Davis: 2
Both: One
*click*
kevin: ohhh i like that F# major
yunyi: ahhh i like the colors!
kevin: ah, i like the mixture- oH MY GOD YUNYI: ooOHHH
henry: what thhheeee emiel: ok that's cool henry: what the zombies!?
henry: gooodaamn
fiona: off to a good start henry: that's very dope
hugo: (talking about the lyrics) is it maybe because you're alive in a zombie world?
lindsey: the lil flute!!!
davis: ohh zombies is it- is that what we're going to be doing here?
is that- alright- cool
lindsey: i like the little- it's like a little flute like-
kevin: that is- i see why it was bumped
oah
another plot twist
they're not....zombies
naoki: that rising bass line, you know something's gna happen
fiona: maaajor scale, maaajor scale
sounds like Mahler 1
very predictable but that's ok!
kevin: i love mixture <3
this is a very good song! like, harmony wise
henry: this chord progression is definitely confusing me
emiel: it's definitely a trippy chord progression
henry: yeah emiel: i don't get it
henry: there's so many of them!
naoki: ooh ah oooah
that-
yeah this is
very different
kevin: eheaihe the choreography- ohh, oh such flur but the song is so good
davis: true i was just reading- i spent a lot of time reading the lyrics and it was just like I-
it was basically like "everyone thinks i'm beautiful but I just want to be in love"
lindsey: i like this
i like this :3
their voices sound really cool
kevin: there's- there's a lot of girls generation vibes now
hugo: i can't see their legs! where did their legs go? oh man!
*confused silence*
gwen: what
why can't you see their legs...?
....wait for it....
hugo: they're wearing camo!
kevin: i'm getting paramore vibes!
yunyi: yeah there's some low key abra levine in this
kevin: yeah yeah
naoki: that was a road safety hazard
oh look there they go again
shimon: this is cool they're all like really unique
kevin: girls dancing in the bus while there are zombies outside
yunyi: a lil less fabulous
but...
kevin: that's pretty!
ohmahgod
shimon: voices, like...
i mean like style in general
the way they look
naoki: well it's like one of them singing and then they eventually harmonize
and then one, one goes off again and then they harmonize
lindsey: i really- it's really peppy though. I like this a lot.
naoki: there's so many different styles within this song it's ridiculous
it's like bohemian rhapsody in that way i guess
lindsey: i feel like this would be the song that a dance team would put in a mix of something they're going to dance to
kevin: i have to say! this music video is winning me over.
i'm extremely charmed by this
emiel: woahh this chord progression is definitely-
henry: i know
it's like-
it's like- emiel: ok they're the zombies which i am noot understanding still
lindsey: it's like- davis: major third
once every sixteen
lindsey: it's a- it's a major second
it's just a whole step
davis: oh yeah
davis: i-i again with the intervals, i just can't xD
wow
they're workin these 8 couunts
it's so good
shimon: different styles <3
naoki: harmonically it seemed quite plain but-
i mean...yeah? shimon: yeah
naoki: do you agree? shimon yeah i agree
naoki: nothing really stood out about it harmonically
umu: but it was still like- you enjoyed it?
naoki!: yeah! shimon: it didn't get bland
naoki: i would agree with that
lindsey: i liked it!
umu: ok
davis: it was alright
lindsey: yeah davis: the dancing was really really good, the music I was kinda like meh
umu: ok. so- davis: the lyrics!
it was nice to have the lyrics tho because
because it did kinda give me a little bit of insight to what they were actually- you know like- ya know
cuz whenever you have a title like
"like ooh ahh"
umu: you're like "wait what is it abut??"
davis: what could this possible- like ok there's zombies and like
i would have had no clue so that- it was good to have a little bit of insight
gwen: cuz it was very like- synth.
beat
vocals
hugo: yeah
there were- there was like
i would have made a few chord
differences too...like it was a very straightforward chord structure
emiel: i like the music. i didn't understand some the zombies
but
groove was pretty good and the chord- sh*t
the chords were confusing
so i was like
a lil bit confused but it was groovy!
fiona: going along those lines
i'm just kinda confused by the whole plot
and like everything
but like I said the music was nice. it was a good mixture of- a confusing mixture of like HAPPY HAPPY
and then like
ahhahaaahh
fiona: mystery! emiel: a confusing mixture of confusion fiona: i think, it goes along
with the lyrics that i was confused about
yunyi: i wish it was something more than just cute
ok cuz like-
i feel like watching this it's definitely like
like- i see they're trying to go for like empowerment points but it's just not...it's not...like this is soo
i think self degrading in a sense
like it just perpetuates the idea that women are like are sorta like objects of romantic desire...objects of like
ya know like
physical appeal and that they're just sooo few like
girl group songs
ok i'm not getting exposure to them
but so far the one's i have been exposed to
have just been about like
you know like, "i'm the prettiest"
ya know and it's just not...
i hate that and it's why i can't stand a lot of girl groups
kevin: you have a good point i agree
lindsey: i think that i liked that
but it also just kinda sounded generic
you know..
umu: was it just not your style of music?
you know it wasn't really my style of music. the chord progression was pretty interesting
mostly because
i almost made this comment in the middle of it like to you about like
it's weird because it's like
theres like the first, when it was the "chorus"
the first chord
it generally was like- there's a couple places that the first chord of a chorus can go
so that it follows a pretty traditional path to the end of the chorus
and it felt like there were 2 places it wanted to go but as opposed to going one of them or the other,
it went both of them and it was just like O.O
like the melodic line- they'd be singing in major but then like bass will have like minor qualities
kevin: are we watching another video by them? umu: yep
kevin: cool cuz i'd like to see more cuz i really really dug this umu: ok
umu: the song? kevin: the song and the video!
it wasn't like- because i was attracted to them but it was just fun! for me
umu: this one is called cheer up!
umu: it broke- henry: after mild confusion
this song like broke a ton of ...records
gwen: 3 2 1
lindsey: i tought that guy had a washing machine on his head
shimon: washing machine...?
umu: that's a camera!
naoki: it looked like a washing machine
i'll back him up- oh ok i see it now
shimon: I see camera camera
hugo: weird noises
emiel: get that edm
beat goin
yeah man yeah man
henry: minor 3
henry: whAT emiel: oh
emiel: wow henry: wow
emiel: that took a different turn
yunyi: pleASE
kevin: that 8th note is just spasming like yunyi: girl you don't need him to tell you you're pretty!
Yunyi: *Pained groan* Keivn: I just like the spasming 8th note
Hugo: Gaaahhhh
Umu: K words???
Hugo: *Groan*
Mmmmmm
Kevin: Man I like this
Henry: Woah, WAT the f*****ck, hey now
Emiel: I'm- Fiona: It's building
Kevin: It's a nice video
I like the idea of changing- Oh guns
Lindsey: I like it
Davis: Yeah I'm just- Lindsey: It's kinda weird because the lyrics are like come on boy leave me alone but they're so happy abou- like it's so upbeat and peppy
Naoki: Oh I can here the bass in this one (Omg he's still on that)
Shimon: Good Naoki: Yeah
Umu: Hehe
Naoki: It's very reaffirming
Hugo: I'm enjoying the different styles they're doing Gwen: Oh yeah I like- I love the video
Hugo: She's hot as f*** Gwen: Yeah they're all hot as f***
Hugo: That's true
Gwen: I read your message but ignore your calls Hugo: Hm?
Kevin: Aw this video stopped being clever
I'm so sad (Plz don't be sad Kevin)
(I know this is Twice but I saw a Highlight opportunity so I took it)
Like when they cut and then they're like in the same positions
Now now they're just- ok hold on there's still hope
Awwwwwww
Fiona: Like it when it goes to them classy in black, musically it switches to more like a Latin s- I don't know what to call it
Henry: Woah
Naoki: That sounds like (8?) but in music
Naoki: Dun dun yeah Shimon: Mhmhmhm
Keivn: Awww they threw- they kick- they kicked it. They, yeah
The song is still good, I like the song. A lot of minor chords which
Kind of destroy me when they're used right and I think it's used right here
Davis: I just think it's really funny how they're incorporating the whole like lenses into the changing personality of the subject, but it's still the same thing
Gwen: I hate the refrain
Like I'm- I'm like mostly ok with this song and then the refrain comes and I'm like I wanna die
Hugo: I like the drip that went ploop Gwen: *sings* cheer up baby cheer up baby
Lindsey: They're all really cute like the whole thing is just very cutesie so it's like Davis: Yeah
Davis: But it's still incorporating so many different personalities which is really cool Lindsey: Yeah
Emiel: Heh Fiona: What is that *Does dance*
Umu or Ash: They go cheer up baby cheer up baby Fiona: What about their wrists
Emiel: Let them do their own thing Fiona: I'm sorry, it bothers me
Emiel: XD triggered
Henry: You bother me
Yunyi: I- I- I quit at the point where they said a girl shouldn't give up her heart so easily (Oh they have subs on)
Hugo: Thaat has some more than slightly sexist undertones
Kevin: I like it! That was good
It did something
So it starts in-
Oh no it didn't do it
Henry: They definitely did it slowly then sped it up, it's pretty cool actually
Fiona: I love that
What cool effects
Davis: Wow what a special commentary
Yunyi: I mean I like the themes of the different movie genres
Kevin: That I liked. Oh that was good- Oh they did they did the switching again where they like Yunyi: That's pretty cool
Kevin: Made the same face at the very end they're like hey we haven't forgotten that
That's one of the silliest things I've ever seen
Kevin: Hehehehe no it's pretty amusing Umu: The Cheer uup
Umu: And that. Is that what you're saying or what happened in the music video Kevin: The very end where they're all - everyone's like partying and then the camera person just scratching his head and then the music video ends
Umu: Ok ok, you like the song because it did things Kevin: I really like the song. There's a moment I'm sure it did it, so- so
Umu: Heh
Umu: Thoughts on the music
Naoki: I think Shimon should Cheer Up hahaha
Naoki: Cheer up Shimon mon, Cheer up Shimon mon
Lindsey: Yeah that is kinda stupid. The song itself is super cutsie, upbeat, fun to listen to but like Davis: Yeah the song was fine
Lindsey: But the message is just kinda stupid Davis: But those lyrics were- yeah
Davis: That actually was a little upsetting
Shimon: I think I liked the first one better because I
Of the music and video because there was more individuality between the members
Umu: mhm
Shimon: Whereas this one it felt like they were grouped into 3 or 4
Naoki: I mean I- I mean that didn't bother me I really liked the cheering up, the- it was really catchy and quite
you know, quite energetic as well
just
wouldn't stop, but that was fine
Gwen: Actually no put me, put me for one, the first song. The first one was fine Umu: Ok
Umu: 0 Hugo: 0
0
Gwen: Yeah
I'm
emmmm
Hugo: Yup, nope
Lindsey: When I said like- like be a real man I was like
Are you kidding, come on like... I'm disappointed
Umu: Yeah Lindsey: Like I- haha Davis: i'm not upset I'm just disappointed
Lindsey: Yeah
Exactly. I'm not- I'm not mad, just like, do better
Hugo: Like I am sooo not approving of them like cuz not only are they sexist to women, they're sexist to men which even of itself is kind of the same thing
Cuz honestly feminism is for a man being a real man he's stating that having feminist qualities about you or feminine qualities about you
Makes you not a real man when in fact it's just having emotions doesn't make you any less of a man it just makes you a f***ing human being
So by saying be a real man you're trying to tell people to be devoid of emotions
Yunyi: If this was like the baseline worst that it got then it's fine Kevin: Yeah
Yunyi: Like
The fact that this is like the better of groups that you've picked out is- Aw it just kills me because do the double standards of the groups ? cuz like
Look it let's take like a meaningless masculine song for example I think DOPE is pretty meaningless in the sense of it's kind of like I'm dope, I'm cool I can do- but
They key point here is I can do things better than anyone else is like what they say at some point and that's like the jist of the video right but here it's just kind of like
Yunyi:Cheer up baby I'll call you back someday Kevin: But see the- you---
Yunyi: *Hits table* Oh my goooohahad Kevin: But see the DOPE a- be- g-
Kevin: The argument for DOPE is similar to like separating a bad rap song from a good rap song. Most rap songs are about how good, how boss somebody is
But like in the case of DOPE, it's done pretty well
Kevin: Unless you don't think so
Yunyi: I think it's done well yeah no no I'm just saying that both music videos and both peices Kevin: Ok good, Ok I wasn't sure
Yunyi: Not pieces- Songs themselves um, sort of aim to- Like Dope kind of lowkey sexualizes BTS. You know it's definitely one of those like they're flaunting their sex appeal
But they're not doing it in a way that's kind of like making them an object dependent on sort of that romanticization that they're being
that's being focused on for that song you know. They talk about how- it's a self confidence thing because they talk about ow they're better than anyone else
and they're like, they're so dope in that way, but this is kind of like oh boy I'm playing with you, ya know. Don't be sad I'll call you back. So it's kind of like- it's dependant
on something else, it's not internal you know Umu: RIght
Emiel: I mean in terms of like, the music itself
Emiel: Good music, good groove, fun to listen too Henry: Yeah for sure Fiona: Yeah I agree that I liked the song overall, eh lyrics made me cringe
Henry: I liked it when I didn't know the lyrics Emiel: Yeah Fiona: But like-
Kevin: But see the reason I liked it so much, and I'm not- I'm totally agreeing with you here, but just because you know like innately I'm not as sensitive to this topic
So like how you're saying that there are so many songs and grooves that do that already from the past I think that's the exact same reason why I liked it- cuz like
Oh yeah I've seen this in the past and this is just another one where it's the same trend but they do it- I think they do it just fine and I like it
Kevin: I'm not saying that you're argument is invalid but that's just- Yunyi: I think you like it better because the way they present yourself doesn't have an immediate effect on how society views you
Yunyi: Where it does for me so Kevin: I guess
Umu: Yeah Yunyi: Yeah it's just- I mean I comment them still for doing what they're doing and a know it's-
It's a step not- it's not quite eh no- it's not a step in the right direction but it's not taking a step back, it's still a step and I'm glad
Yunyi: -they have careers. Hahaha it's a shuffle Kevin: It's a step horizontally so it doesn't go hahaha
Yunyi: It's a shuffle. I'm glad they're doing what they're doing. They have beautiful voices, the music video is well done blah blah blah blah
It seems to be the unanimous opinion in kpop that it's always extremely well produced and they're all very talented but I just wish they had
a better message to go with Umu: Right, right. So at producers
Yunyi: ?? Or let the girls do what they wanna do. You know actually watching these it makes me really appreciate Blackpink
Umu: Haha yeah
Yunyi: Makes me reaallly appreciate Blackpink and 2NE1
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