Drake is like his own genre.
You know, every time he's on something, it just catapults to number 1
and it's the topic of conversation.
So whatever Drake was on or what he appeared on, whether it's "In My Feelings," the Blocboy JB records,
They might not necessarily chart high on the Billboard but they impact.
And to me, that's ... Whatever he's on is the song of the summer.
Rob Markman: What's up geniuses?
Welcome back to For the Record.
I'm your host Rob Markman.
Now I got some bad news for you.
Summer's over, but I've got some great news.
That means it's debate time.
We're going to debate songs of the summer.
You know and I brought a panel of guests, friends of mine.
We're just going to have this all out.
First up, we've got from the Rap Radar podcast, my man Brian "B.Dot" Miller.
Brian, what's up?
Brian Miller: What up Rob?
Rob Markman: Everything is good.
Brian Miller: Yes sir.
Rob Markman: Next up, we have ... We can't have hip hop discussion without the DJ.
Okay, the DJ is the cornerstone of hip hop.
I've got the Fairy Vibe Mother herself, one of the hottest DJs in New York City, Miss Milan.
What's up?
DJ Miss Milan: Hey, hey, what's up?
Rob Markman: Thank you for being here, and last but never ever least, we have Billboard's
hip hop editor Carl Lamarre.
Carl what's going on?
Carl Lamarre: What's going on, man?
Rob Markman: We're talking about in the summer, you ready for basketball season with LeBron James.
Carl Lamarre: I'm ready to go, man.
LeBron got me ready to go, man.
Rob Markman: Were you always a Lakers fan, or is it ...
Carl Lamarre: I mean ...
DJ Miss Milan: He just jumped ship.
Carl Lamarre: I'm not gonna say it.
I was a fan of Kobe.
Rob Markman: Alright, it's getting hot here a bit.
I'm gonna take you off the hot seat, and we're going to go back to the songs of the summer man.
Rob Markman: Yeah, I wanted to have you guys over just cause, you know, this is just the thing.
Like every year we kind of like.
There's certain music that defines our summer.
Spotify just released their list of the most streamed songs of the summer.
I just want to read it.
Drake, you know that guy, right?
Carl Lamarre: Oh yeah.
Rob Markman: "In My Feelings," 393 million streams.
Brian Miller: So it's like $20?
Rob Markman: ... And 25 cents.
Twenty dollars, twenty-five cents.
Maroon 5, "Girls Like You" is second up, Cardi B, Bad Bunny, J Balvin, "I Like It"
is third, JuiceWRLD, "Lucid Dreams," and XXXTentacion, rest in peace, with "SAD!"
rounded out the top five streaming songs on spotify.
B-dot, I want to start with you man, and I know you're team Tidal, Rap Radar podcast
on Tidal.
What were your songs of the summer?
Do you agree with this list?
Does it shape up with you?
Brian Miller: I think the song of the summer is not, necessarily, defined by a song, just
by a person.
I just say Drake.
Drake is like his own genre.
Every time he's on something it just catapults to number one and it's the topic of conversation.
So, whatever Drake was on or what he appeared on, whether it's, "In my Feelings," the
Blocboy JB records, they might not necessarily chart high on the billboard but they impact
and, to me, whatever he's on it's the song of the summer.
Rob Markman: Alright, so you're saying Drake kind of defined the summer.
Miss Milan you are out in these streets, you are in these clubs, you are DJing, you're
doing these mixes, so you might have... streaming data's nice, but you might have the best test
case because you see what the people are actually rocking to.
Song of the summer.
What's the song of the summer for you?
DJ Miss Milan: I'm going to have to agree with B.Dot here.
"In my Feelings" was definitely the viral sensation of the summer.
Literally, the dance itself is what made the song in my opinion.
So, shout out to Shiggy and the Shiggy challenge.
And, definitely I would have to say another pick of mine, personally, that's not on the
list will have to be Sheck Wes, "Mo Bamba."
The energy in that song is absolutely amazing.
The kid's energy, himself, is amazing.
So, that definitely, for me, was one of my top picks for the summer.
Rob Markman: Were people actually in the club doing the Shiggy dance?
DJ Miss Milan: Oh yeah.
Literally, like...
Everyone was doing it.
Even my mom was calling me like, "What's that song y'all be singing?".
I'm like, "In my Feelings, ma".
You know what I'm saying.
Rob Markman: So, it wasn't just in traffic, on the freeway.
They was actually out in the clubs doing it too.
DJ Miss Milan: Literally, you dropped it and the place went crazy.
Rob Markman: Shout out to Shiggy.
Carl, man, we talk about this Spotify streaming.
But, one of the tried and true marks and measures of a hot song are the billboard charts.
You're sitting very close to that chart man.
What do you feel like?
Carl Lamarre: It's like what B.Dot was saying man.
Drake has just been crushing 2018 period.
It's not even the summer, it's just 2018 period.
Cause you got "In my Feelings," seven straight weeks at number on, then you got "God's Plan,"
which did eleven.
Then you have "Nice for What," which did eight.
So, right now Drake is like the third artist of all time...
Rob Markman: They say he's breathing down Usher's neck?
Carl Lamarre: Usher got 28 weeks at number one in 2004 for the whole calendar year.
Year's not even over and Drake had 26 weeks altogether at number one.
And we got like four months left?
So, it's kinda crazy what Drizzy's been doing and with that amount of time left and the
single that he had, like "Nonstop" was already flirting with number one, it was number two.
Who's to say he can't crush Usher's 28 weeks so it's crazy.
Rob Markman: Definitely new rules.
Let me ask you a question though.
When 'Scorpion' dropped, because he had so much momentum with "God's Plan," "Nice
for What," a lot of momentum, did you know when you heard Scorpion that "In my Feelings"
was going to take off the way it did?
I didn't.
I'm gonna admit it.
I'm gonna be truthful and honest because you can go back to the tape.
"In my Feelings" wasn't a standout initially.
I'm talking about first, second, third listen to 'Scorpion.'
I didn't necessarily see that coming.
Carl Lamarre: I didn't think it was going to be a number one, but I did think for Side
B it was a banger.
I thought that and "Blue Tint," I was like, okay, he got something special here.
Rob Markman: "Blue Tint" is hard.
Carl Lamarre: "Blue Tint" is hard.
That, "After Dark."
It's funny because I think Datwon, Datwon Thomas over at VIBE, I saw him tweet it and
he called it, he was like, "In my Feelings" this, this might be the one.
And that's before it took off.
But the way it took off, it's like what you were saying with Shiggy, it's crazy because
you got people that don't even speak English, you got people doing the "In my Feelings"
challenge outside of the country.
As long as they can identify with the dance, you're good to go.
Rob Markman: I saw B.Dot's best friend, Will Smith, who he interviewed this summer.
So, what do we attribute to the success of "In my Feelings," right?
Is the song enough?
Is the beat and the lyrics enough?
Did it need the dance to get there?
Brian Miller: I think it was a perfect storm of things.
The song, by itself, I didn't necessarily gravitate towards it when I heard it initially
but I think the dance just kind of took it over the hump.
I think it was gonna be what it was gonna be regardless.
But when you have some sort of viral attachment to it everything takes off.
History has shown that from the Macarena to now.
Rob Markman: Let's talk about Bardi, Cardi B. Cardi arguably had the song of the summer
last year with "Bodak" and if it wasn't your top, it was definitely in contention.
It's kinda hard when you're kind of first single, it wasn't her first single but it
was her first major single, goes number one, where do you go from there?
Next summer she has another one with "I Like It."
"I Like It" hit number one right?
What about Cardi's summer this year?
Carl Lamarre: Cardi man, she's been on one man.
You got the Maroon 5 record.
She's been sitting in the top five for the last month and change.
Like literally the Maroon 5 record number two, right now "I Like It" number three.
So she's been holding it down.
I think ever since the whole "Finesse" record came about she really showed, "Okay.
I can mess around in the pop world and give you an adult sixteen and help your record
elevate to higher heights".
Cause when we heard "Finesse" we already knew it was a dope record but when you heard your
voice it was like steroids.
She just sprinkled that verse and the video just popped.
So, I think a lot of these pop artists they know now, "Yo, we got Cardi on a record, it's
just gonna elevate even more".
Rob Markman: Well, let's talk about Maroon 5 because Maroon 5 got Cardi on a record this year.
Can I just say and y'all can agree...
Ay Maroon 5 the jig is up.
The Maroon 5 cheat code, like if we talk about last year, they put SZA on with "What Lovers
Do," Future on "Cold," they had ASAP Rocky on "Whiskey," before that was Kendrick Lamar
on "Don't Wanna Know," Wiz Khalifa on "Payphones."
Maroon 5 is like, "Who's the hottest person in urban and let's go."
Brian Miller: It's a testament to Hip-Hop and it's greatness.
The fact that they're coming to us.
We're not necessarily going to them.
They want our mojo.
So, I think they know what they're doing.
DJ Miss Milan: They definitely do.
I do agree.
They definitely do.
Rob Markman: Do these Maroon 5 records slap though?
They're streamed a lot.
DJ Miss Milan: I'm not going to lie.
Nah, I'm not...
I ain't gonna lie.
Carl Lamarre: I liked the "Girls Like You."
I liked Cardi's verse on it.
I thought the video was so dope too cause they grabbed every powerful woman for that
video too.
They had J-Lo, Ellen, Mary J. Blige.
It was a star-studded affair man.
So, it was just a perfect gumbo of everything.
Rob Markman: That Maroon 5 cheat code.
Let's use our crystal balls and go into the future a little bit right.
Next summer, who is Maroon 5 calling for that feature to end up on these charts again?
Brian Miller: Rob Markman!
Carl Lamarre: Ooh.
Rob with the smooth sixteen.
Rob Markman: Not if they want to chart, dawg.
Heard what Yung Berg said.
Carl Lamarre: That's a good question.
Rob Markman: Chance the Rapper.
I'm calling it right now, I think it's Chance the Rapper.
Brian Miller: I could see that happening.
Carl Lamarre: I could see that happening too.
DJ Miss Milan: That definitely makes a perfect mix with Maroon 5, Chance.
That's a hit.
Rob Markman: They wasn't even thinking about it but I know Adam is probably watching this
right now, you know what, call Pac the manager right now and let's get this.
Carl Lamarre: And you never know with Wiz too man.
Wiz is good for a great Pop verse.
You could always call on him and he'll give you something dope.
Brian Miller: But that's the beauty of the music game, you never know.
Last year we weren't talking about Cardi B like this and now she's on top of the world.
Rob Markman: Somebody who else weren't talking about last year and this song is old, it came
out about a year ago, nobody's brought up but Ella Mai "Boo'd up."
I felt like that was going to be the song of the summer before this Drake guy came along
and said you know what, "Hold this."
DJ Miss Milan: It definitely was.
That was the original "In my Feelings."
Was definitely in my feelings with the "Boo'd up."
I'm like, "Yeah, I got you beloved."
I thought she would've been in the top but like B.Dot said, Drake effect is like, damn,
once he's on it...
Brian Miller: But, to your point though.
I think about the "Boo'd Up" record and I'm saying to myself a lot of times, even though
we are talking about the song of the summer, do song of the summers really exist anymore
because that song dropped spring-ish and spilled into the summer and it seems like that's happening
a lot.
Rob Markman: Let Carl jump in on this.
Because I have a theory.
For a song of the summer, very rarely does it drop like on June 21st.
Because you need a while to heat up.
Carl Lamarre: It doesn't drop in the summer.
It just ends up following through.
The Ella Mai record came out 2017 and it started just bubbling all the way to the summer.
I feel like with Ella Mai's record, I might be crazy for this, but I was comparing it
to Miguel "Adorn," I think it has that potential years from now to really be like that's the
go-to record at the cookout.
Rob Markman: Let's talk about, because you mentioned Miguel "Adorn," we're going to go
back a little bit, there's a tangent.
But I remember that year, the R&B record for that year was Usher "Climax."
Like Usher "Climax" was a problem and then "Adorn" started to heat up and we forgot all
about the "Climax."
Carl Lamarre: It was the go-to record at the barbecue man.
And I think Ella Mai's "Boo'd Up" has that potential when you go to the barbecue, it's
going to be the go-to song at the wedding, at the reception.
I really think it has that potential to have that longevity.
DJ Miss Milan: Yeah.
Twenty years down the line we gonna be like, "Remember that song "Feelings…"
That was my jam.
Rob Markman: Let's talk about these remixes.
Will we remember any of these Ella Mai remixes.
Plies had one, T-Pain had one.
Carl Lamarre: Plies should've been the official remix.
I'll say that.
Plies bodied his verse.
Rob Markman: You gonna put some respect on Plies name B.Dot.
Carl Lamarre: T-Pain and Plies I agree with that.
DJ Miss Milan: They should've collabed with a good remix that would've been perfect.
Carl Lamarre: That record, I think, would've been a better remix than the Nicki and Quavo.
Brian Miller: Yeah, I didn't like that official remix to much.
I think the T-Pain joint stood out a little bit more but these days remixes come and go
you know.
Rob Markman: How many songs can you make about a booty?
To quote the great T-Pain.
Also, Fab dropped a remix, I don't know that that quite hit the mark but Plies was the
first one.
Plies really saw the potential of the record because Plies jumped on it before it even
started heating up.
I feel like Plies might've came, his version might've just hit a little bit too early or
he would've caught a bigger wave.
Rob Markman: Another guy I want to talk about.
Tyga.
The resurgence of Tyga.
First of all, we gonna be honest on this show.
Like I said, I didn't see "In my Feelings" rising the way it did.
I'm very honest, I can admit when I'm wrong.
Who here seen this resurgence of Tyga?
Brian Miller: Listen, I don't even think Tyga saw this resurgence.
And you'd be a hater, a player hater to deny this record.
This song goes man.
We talking about "Taste."
I think Tyga has found his lane and hopefully he sticks with it.
DJ Miss Milan: Well, the thing about Tyga is that he already was, in my opinion, dominating
strip clubs and stuff like that, you know, "Rack City" and "Faded," "Hookah," you know
"Pass me the hookah."
Everyone was singing his songs.
Unfortunately, being tied to the drama overshadowed the music and we wasn't hearing a lot from him.
So, this song was like a…
You can't hate on it.
And I always feel like there's always a time and period where it's always fun to make fun
of somebody and Tyga was that.
It was fun to make fun of him.
But now that he's back...
Carl Lamarre: That beat is too crazy.
Tyga's legit the cat with nine lives.
Because, I always say he's the type that's one hit away.
You mention "Rack City," you got to remember, also, the collabs he had with Chris.
He had "Deuces", "Loyal."
He knows how to pen these fun verses, it was just a matter of time.
Now you got a double-platinum record that's still sitting in the top ten.
And the LA Leakers freestyle over Big Bank.
Brian Miller: He killed that Big Bank freestyle.
Rob Markman: B.Dot, did you go back and erase all your olds tweets dissing Tyga?
I just wanna know.
Brian Miller: No, Rob.
We're going to talk about that Rob.
Rob Markman: Nah, I'm just joking.
Brian Miller: You can't deny Tyga.
Even the "Swish" record, I think that was just a great follow-up.
I don't know if I want a Tyga album, but I like Tyga's singles.
He could probably take the Flo-Rida approach and keep releasing these little heaters here
and there.
Rob Markman: Let's talk about the newcomers for a second.
JuiceWRLD, "Lucid Dreams."
Are you able to spin that in the club, Milan?
DJ Miss Milan: It depends on the environment.
Because mostly you'll get the younger crowds that really want to hear JuiceWRLD and really
want to mosh pit to it.
It's such an emo song to mosh pit but we gonna do it if you want it.
Definitely, JuiceWRLD, his song is hitting.
Plus it is a sample from Sting, already.
So, it's kind of like familiar.
Some old-school cats will hear the beginning and be like, "Oh what is this?" and then be
like, "Wait, who is this singing?".
Brian Miller: It's Nas every time I hear it.
Brian Miller: Literally, I keep thinking I'm going to listen to a Nas verse but…
Rob Markman: That was dope cause my son actually, I was like "Oh, that's that Nas record", and
then he was like, "Yo, I wanna hear it."
So, I played him the original world and the JuiceWRLD...
DJ Miss Milan: It's an educating piece, you can consider that.
Brian Miller: Nas should get on the remix for that.
DJ Miss Milan: I don't know.
I don't know.
Rob Markman: After that Nas album...
Carl Lamarre: That's a whole different...
Rob Markman: Whatever Swizz is holding onto I wanna hear it.
XXX, man, tragic.
We lost him, not without his problems, and his issues, and his controversies.
"SAD!" also emerged on Spotify as one of the most streamed.
How much of that is about the song?
How much of that is after people are celebrated after they pass?
Carl Lamarre: I personally thought, when I listened to the "?" album, I already thought
"SAD!" was a highlight, like the record was already in the top ten before he passed,
so I think it peaked at six and then right after he passed it shot to number one.
I already thought it was catchy.
I already knew the kids of the new generation was going to appreciate it.
So, I think it's a combination of, one, him having an incredible legacy to leave at 20.
You know, to leave with a number one album.
To leave with his debut album at number two.
Carl Lamarre: The kids, they latched onto him so early.
If you go to, freaking, Ski Mask's show, I just saw Lil Xan at Hot 100 Fest, they perform
his records, these kids are chanting the shit.
And ask any of these kids, they look at him like, it's not blasphemous for these kids
to say, yo, he's their Tupac.
Rob Markman: Right, I've heard that before.
A lot of people get mad at the correlation but I see the correlation.
Carl Lamarre: But, you know he's affected so many lives in such a positive way with
some of his records.
Like, I've heard people my age, be like, "Yo, this young kid saved me from killing myself."
So it's crazy man.
I think, it's, not only his passing, but ,just, him able to craft those kind of records that
hit home.
Brian Miller: I was going to say it's unfortunate, it's sad, when dead rappers get better promotion.
And that song was a highlight, it's a good song, but I just think the death just took
it over the hump and it catapulted to where it is.
I think it went number one on billboards.
Rob Markman: He was number one too while he was still alive.
Brian Miller: Right.
But after his passing, the song catapulted to where it was at.
DJ Miss Milan: He always had a big, big, influence on the younger generation, for sure.
Even still, to this day, "Look At Me", you can play that now and…
It's gonna be crazy.
It's unfortunate.
R.I.P.
Rob Markman: It was definitely a hot summer.
Where do you rank it when you think about traditional songs of the summer?
B.Dot, I'll start with you.
Songs of the summer that you just associate with summer and then where does this kind
of rank for you.
Brian Miller: Like, classic songs?
Rob Markman: Yeah, yeah.
Brian Miller: You think of some, I think you always go to my friend, Will Smith's song,
"Summertime," that's a classic.
Rob Markman: Can you call Will now?
Brian Miller: Yeah.
Carl Lamarre: Got him on the speed dial?
Brian Miller: Think of "Summertime" Will Smith, I think of classic Jay-Z songs, I think of
Summer Jam Hot 97, that event, the songs that used to drop around that time.
DJ Miss Milan: "Best of Me."
Ooh.
Brian Miller: It takes you, literally, back.
You might now, necessarily, remember when they drop, but you remember where you were,
how you felt, what the weather was like.
So, those songs in particular.
DJ Miss Milan: I know I had a Jersey dress.
Brian Miller: The blue one?
Carl Lamarre: Ahh, the blue one.
Shout out to Maya.
DJ Miss Milan: Should've worn it today, you know what I'm saying.
Carl Lamarre: I think some records it's like what Dot was saying, I think of "PSA Still
Ringing."
You know, in the club...
Rob Markman: For summer.
Where was you?
In Marcy?
Carl Lamarre: To go back to Drake, I think of moments when I'm in the club.
I remember "I'm On One" was ringing crazy.
Even "Stay Schemin'" was ringing crazy.
Brian Miller: "0 to 100."
Carl Lamarre: "0 to 100."
Rob Markman: He really in the streets.
I mean "Stay Schemin'" a summer record but it's a lot of edge to that record.
DJ Miss Milan: You had that liner.
What was it the kobe line?
Turn the music down, everyone was singing that part right there.
Rob Markman: Alright, so, I mean Drake "In My Feelings," it kind of feels like that is
gonna measure up.
Like the song is not gonna go away.
We'll be here five years from now, ten years from now at the cookout and "In My Feelings"
will still come on.
DJ Miss Milan: It's going to be an old school dance just like the Macarena, just like the
Electric Slide.
We now doing the Shiggy challenge at the barbecues y'all.
Yo, come here, bring my stuff baby.
Carl Lamarre: We got Shiggy busting it at the Garden rocking the Michael Jackson outfit.
Rob Markman: Milan, you shouted out Sheck Wes with "Mo Bamba."
Carl, I know you sit right next to the billboard trust.
This is the guy behind the charts.
Carl Lamarre: So, I know the record's about to be pushed to radio.
I think it has the potential to crack the hot 100.
Along with Shek, cause I was telling her before, I think Flipp Dinero, "Leave Me Alone," I
think that's a very, very underrated song.
I said a dark horse record that I also think has the potential to crack through.
Especially with the deal he just got.
Rob Markman: He just got signed to We The Best.
Genius, we just did a verified on Flipp.
Carl Lamarre: So I think those two.
I think Sheck and Flipp, their records have the potential to crack.
They're already boiling in the streets so once they get that push from radio, it's only
a matter of time.
DJ Miss Milan: Not to mention, they got the co-sign from Drizzy too.
Carl Lamarre: Yeah, both of them.
Brian Miller: You talk about dark horses.
I cannot leave this without mentioning my man Lil Duval, "Smile."
Carl Lamarre: He's out here performing with the Carters.
Brian Miller: That song is the dark horse of the year.
And, it's a great song and I'm so happy it's getting the attention.
Rob Markman: I'm not even gonna lie, it's so rare for me to take vacations but I was
in the Dominican Republic this summer.
"I'm living my best life."
DJ Miss Milan: "Ain't going back to...".
It's a good song.
Rob Markman: You know what I want to say, and I thought B.Dot was gonna say this because
he was contractually obligated but man, I really Love "APESHIT."
I'm not going to put it above "In My Feelings."
To me, "In My Feelings" is the song of the summer.
But man, that "APESHIT" comes on and it's just like...
Brian Miller: Top five song of the year.
Hands down.
It's a great record.
I think from Bey rapping, to the production from Pharrell, to the Migos influence.
I mean, it's a great record.
DJ Miss Milan: I mean she bodied Jay on the record.
Carl Lamarre: Her flow and delivery is A-1 man.
Rob Markman: By design, come on.
So, finally just real quick to wrap it up.
I feel like we have a consensus but B.Dot, song of the summer?
Brian Miller: Song of the summer, I mean, got to go with the Drake man, "In my Feelings."
DJ Miss Milan: "In My Feelings," I have to agree.
Carl Lamarre: "In My Feelings."
"In My Feelings."
Rob Markman: Tyga.
Carl Lamarre: Shout out to Tyga.
I wanted to say it too.
Rob Markman: Yeah, you got the L.A. jersey on, damn man.
Carl Lamarre: And he rocked it in the video so shout out to Tyga, man.
Rob Markman: Nah, I wanted to say Tyga.
But nah, actually it's "In My Feelings" Drake, it's no doubt about it.
Brian Miller: Whether you like it or not, you just have to address it.
Carl Lamarre: It's undeniable.
DJ Miss Milan: It is.
I want to thank you all for coming.
B.Dot, we can catch you on the Rap Radar.
Brian Miller: New season coming soon.
Rob Markman: Okay.
That's what's up.
Who we got next?
Will Smith?
Eminem?
Brian Miller: Well, Tupac is...
We'll see.
We'll talk about it.
Miss Milan, what you got coming up next?
DJ Miss Milan: Ah, man.
A lot of things.
Just stay tuned.
The Fairy Vibe Mother is just going to give you the vibe.
Rob Markman: And Carl, what can we expect from you?
Carl Lamarre: You can just check at Billboard Hip-Hop.
We coming with some dope content, dope interviews so be on the lookout.
Rob Markman: Alright, that's dope.
And I'm Rob Markman, once again, this is For The Record.
Thanks for watching.
See you next week.
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