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>> IAN: IT IS FRIDAY,
DECEMBER 1ST.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
TONIGHT, TAKING THE CONVERSATION
ABOUT CONSENT AND SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT INTO HIGH SCHOOLS.
>>> WHAT DOES THE NEXT
GENERATION THINK?
>> ANDREW: DAYS AFTER ANNOUNCING
THEIR ENGAGEMENT,
PRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN MARKLE
MET AN ADORING PUBLIC.
THINK OF IT AS
A DRESS REHEARSAL FOR HER ROLE
OF A LIFETIME.
>> IAN: WE BEGIN WITH A
BOMBSHELL DAY FOR DONALD TRUMP.
THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO
POSSIBLE COLLUSION BETWEEN
RUSSIA AND THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN
MOVED IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY.
RIGHT INTO THE WHITE HOUSE.
MICHAEL FLYNN WAS ONCE ONE OF
THE
MOST TRUSTED MEN OF DONALD
TRUMP.
HE MAY BE READY TO TESTIFY
AGAINST HIM.
MICHAEL FLYNN AN EARLY SUPPORTER
OF DONALD TRUMP AND HIS FIRST
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR
ADMITTED HE LIED TO THE F.B.I.
ABOUT HIS CONVERSATIONS WITH
RUSSIA'S AMBASSADOR TO THE
UNITED STATES.
SPECIFICALLY LAST DECEMBER,
AFTER BARAK OBAMA IMPOSED NEW
SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIA FOR
MEDDLING IN THE ELECTION.
COURT DOCUMENTS SHOW THAT FLYNN
SPOKE WITH AN UNNAMED SENIOR
MEMBER OF TRUMP'S TRANSITION
TEAM ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL
ORDER.
FLYNN THEN CALLED SERGEY KISLYAK
AND REQUESTED THAT RUSSIA NOT
ESCALATE THE SITUATION.
DAYS LATER,ISAC CALLED BACK
AND SAID RUSSIA CHOSE NOT TO
RETALIATE.
FLYNN IS COOPERATING WITH ROBERT
MUELLER'S INVESTIGATION.
INTO POSSIBLE COORDINATION
BETWEEN TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN AND THE
KREMLIN TO INFLUENCE THE 2016
ELECTION.
TODAY, FLYNN SAID...
THE CHARGE OF MAKING FALSE
STATEMENTS TO THE F.B.I. CARRIES
A MAXIMUM PENALTY OF FIVE YEARS
IN PRISON.
AND A QUARTER OF A MILLION
DOLLAR FINE.
TODAY, SENTENCING GUIDELINES
SUGGEST FLYNN COULD SERVE 6
MONTHS IN JAIL IF ANY TIME AT
ALL AND FACE A FINE OF UP TO
$9,500.
>>> SO THAT'S WHAT THE DEAL
MEANS FOR MICHAEL FLYNN.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE
MUELLER INVESTIGATION?
KEITH BOAG LOOKS AT IT TONIGHT.
>> LOCK HIM UP.
LOCK HIM UP!
>> REPORTER: MICHAEL FLYNN LEFT
THE D.C. COURTHOUSE THIS MORNING
TO TALK OF LOCK HIM UP.
THAT WAS, OF COURSE, SIMILAR TO
THE CHANT THAT FLYNN LED ABOUT
HILLARY CLINTON IN THE ELECTION
CAMPAIGN.
>> LOCK HER UP, THAT'S RIGHT.
YES, THAT'S RIGHT.
LOCK HER UP.
>> REPORTER: WHETHER IT IS FLYNN
WHO GETS LOCKED UP IN PRISON
WILL DEPEND ON HOW VALUABLE HIS
FUTURE
COOPERATION WITH THE ROBERT
MUELLER INVESTIGATION TURNS OUT
TO BE.
ATTACHED TO FLYNN'S GUILTY PLEA
WERE THE CONDITIONS OF HIS PLEA
BARGAIN.
HE FLIPPED, BECAME A WITNESS FOR
THE PROSECUTION.
AND AGREED TO COOPERATE IN EVERY
POSSIBLE WAY.
WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT AS AN
IMPORTANT PLAYER IN THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN AND THE WHITE
HOUSE AS HE WAS, NATIONAL
SECURITY ADVISOR, MUELLER IS
WILLING TO GO EASY ON FLYNN
BECAUSE HE IS AFTER BIGGER FISH.
THE ONLY BIGGER FISH ARE THE
PRESIDENT AND HIS FAMILY.
THE PRESIDENT'S LAWYER ISSUED A
STATEMENT THIS MORNING THAT READ
IN PART...
BUT A FEW HOURS LATER, THERE
WERE MULTIPLE REPORTS THAT WAS
-- IT WAS
THE PRESIDENT'S SON-IN-LAW JARED
KUSHNER WHO HAD DIRECTED FLYNN
TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE
RUSSIANS LAST YEAR.
MUELLER COULD CONFIRM THAT WITH
FLYNN AND LIKELY HAS.
ON CAPITOL HILL, HIGH RANKING
REPUBLICAN SENATORS ARE QUOTED
AS HAVING BEEN ASKED BY THE
PRESIDENT TO SHUT DOWN THEIR
INVESTIGATION INTO HIS CAMPAIGN
LINKS TO RUSSIA.
ADD TO THAT, THE FORMER F.B.I.
DIRECTOR JAMES COMEY'S TESTIMONY
UNDER OATH THAT TRUMP HAD ASKED
HIM TO DROP THE INVESTIGATION
INTO FLYNN AND THE FACT THAT
COMEY DID NOT AND THEN TRUMP
FIRED HIM AND...
>> I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
ASK WHY IS HE SO
DESPERATE TO HAVE THE
INVESTIGATION STOPPED, QUICKLY
AS WE SEE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE
IS NOT IS NOT IS NOT --
PLEAD GUILTY OR COME FORWARD
UNDER INDICTMENT.
>> REPORTER: THE REPUBLICANS
SEEM TO BE TRYING TO STAY COOL.
>> THE PROCESS IS WORKING.
THE SPECIAL COUNCIL HAS A
MANDATE.
IT SEEMS TO BE FULFILLING THAT
MANDATE.
THIS IS THE WAY THE LEGAL
PROCESS WORKS.
>> REPORTER: BUT THERE IS NO
QUESTION, THE INVESTIGATION TOOK
AN IMPORTANT STEP CLOSER TO THE
OVAL OFFICE TODAY.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, REPUBLICANS
HAVE TO CONSIDER CAREFULLY WHERE
THIS ALL MAY BE LEADING THEM.
KEITH BOAG, CBC NEWS,
WASHINGTON.
>> IAN: SO THE MUELLER
INVESTIGATION SHOWS NO SIGNS OF
SLOWING DOWN.
TO HELP CONNECT THE DOTS, TAKE A
LOOK AT THIS.
THE INVESTIGATION INTO DONALD
TRUMP'S POSSIBLE COLLUSION WITH
MOSCOW HAS NOW SMEARED FOUR
FIGURES CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT.
TODAY IT IS MICHAEL FLYNN.
IN OCTOBER, CAMPAIGN ADVISOR
GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS PLEADED
GUILTY TO MISLEADING THE F.B.I.
OVER HIS RUSSIA CONTACTS.
THE SAME MONTH, THE FORMER
CAMPAIGN CHAIR MANAFORT AND RICK
GATES, HIS DEPUTY, WERE EACH
INDICTED ON 12 COUNTS,
INCLUDING ON CONSPIRACY.
BOTH HAVE PLEADED NOT GUILTY.
SO WHO MAY BE NEXT?
WELL, THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO
MEMBERS OF TRUMP'S OWN FAMILY
WHO HAVE HAD INTERACTIONS WITH
RUSSIANS.
DONALD TRUMP JUNIOR AGREED TO
MEET A LAWYER WITH CLOSE TIES TO
THE KREMLIN AND JARED KUSHNER
HELD MEETINGS WITH A RUSSIAN
BANKER APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT
VLADIMIR PUTIN.
SO THE QUESTION, WILL MICHAEL
FLYNN PROVE TO BE THE LINCHPIN
IN MUELLER'S INVESTIGATION INTO
TEAM TRUMP?
THOSE RUSSIAN CONNECTIONS ARE
THE KEY TO THE MUELLER
INVESTIGATION.
I SPOKE ABOUT THOSE WITH LUC
HARDING, A FORMER MOSCOW
CORRESPONDENT FOR A U.K.
NEWSPAPER, THE GUARDIAN.
HE STUDIED DONALD TRUMP'S TIES
TO RUSSIA AND WROTE A BOOK
CALLED COLLUSION.
I ASKED HIM WHAT MIGHT BE KNOWN.
IT WOULD TAKE THINGS CLOSER TO
TRUMP.
>> INTERVIEW: I THINK IF FLYNN
WERE TO TESTIFY THAT HE WAS
EFFECTIVELY INSTRUCTED BY DONALD
TRUMP TO GET ALONG WITH THE
RUSSIANS, TO WOO THEM, TO PLEASE
THEM, IF YOU LIKE, THEN THE
WHOLE STORY OF COLLUSION THAT IS
VEHEMENTLY DENIED BY TRUMP LOOKS
TO ME MORE AND MORE SOLID.
AND SO WE HAVE TO SEE WHERE WE
GO THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
IT IS ALSO WORTH REMEMBERING
THAT
VLADIMIR PUTIN'S MAIN FOREIGN
POLICY GOAL WAS TO HAVE AMERICAN
LIFT
SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIA.
THIS IS WHAT FLYNN WAS
DISCUSSING ON THE TELEPHONE WITH
KISLYAK.
THE RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR.
WHAT HE LIED ABOUT AFTERWARDS TO
THE F.B.I.
>> IAN: YOU HAVE STUDIED PUTIN'S
INNER CIRCLE CLOSELY.
HOW DO YOU THINK THEY REACTED
TODAY TO THE NEWS?
>> INTERVIEW: WELL, I THINK THE
REACTION FROM PUTIN WILL BE
MIXED.
ON THE ONE HAND, DONALD TRUMP
HAS BEEN A PRESIDENT OF CHAOS.
HE HAS FURTHER POLARIZED THE
MARKET AND CAUSED DIVISION,
CULTURAL, POLITICAL, RACIAL.
PUTIN SEES IT, IT IS GOOD FOR
RUSSIA.
IT MEANS
RUSSIA CAN DO WHAT IT LIKES ON
THE INTERNATIONAL STAGE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK PUTIN
IS PROBABLY FEELING A MOMENT OF
BUYERS REMORSE.
HE BACKS TRUMP.
HE ALLEGEDLY HACKED E-MAILS TO
DAMAGE HILLARY CLINTON.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS, TRUMP IS
PROVING SUCH AN ERRATIC
PRESIDENT HE HAS BEEN UNABLE TO
DELIVER THE ONE THING THAT PUTIN
WANTS WHICH IS AN END TO U.S.
SANCTIONS.
>> IAN: EARLIER THIS YEAR, TRUMP
REJECTED CRITICISM OF FLYNN AS
FAKE NEWS.
YOU MUST FIND IT GRATIFYING, IT
IS BEFORE THE COURTS WHERE THERE
IS A CLEAR LINE BETWEEN LYING
AND THE TRUTH.
>> INTERVIEW: I AGREE.
I SPENT FOUR YEARS IN RUSSIA,
THE RUSSIANS, THEY DID NOT
INVENT FAKE NEWS.
THEY ARE GOOD AT IT.
PUSHING THEIR STORY INTO THE
INTERNATIONAL ARENA.
AND DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN
ECHOING THIS FOR PRACTICALLY A
YEAR AND SAYING THE CRITICS ARE
LYING AND IT IS FAKE NEWS.
AND HERE WE HAVE THESE RATHER
SOBER INDICTMENTS FROM ROBERT
MUELLER LAYING OUT WHAT ACTUALLY
REALLY HAPPENED.
YOU MAY CALL IT THE REVENGE.
THESE ARE THE FACTS WHICH ARE
COMING BACK AND BITING DONALD
TRUMP.
IT IS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE READING
FOR HIM.
I THINK HE FACES A FURTHER
DILEMMA, DOES HE LET
THE PROCESS CONTINUE.
AND COME TO THE DOOR?
OR DOES HE PREEMPT IT BY
FIRING ROBERT MUELLER OFF THE
MOTHER OF CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS
IN THE UNITED STATES.
>> IAN: THE REVENGE OF
IMPAIRISISM.
>>> THE MAN AT THE CENTER OF THE
RUSSIA
INVESTIGATION WEIGHED IN FROM IT
FROM AFAR.
I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT JAMES
COMEY TWEETED AFTER
MICHAEL FLYNN'S GUILTY PLEA...
ONE OF THE CENTRAL THEMES OF THE
BOOK OF AMOS IS GOOD'S OUTRAGE
OVER THE UNJUST BEHAVIOUR OF THE
RICH AND POWERFUL.
>>> THERE IS MORE TO TALK ABOUT
ON THE STORY.
ANDREW, WE WILL CHAT WITH TWO
PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE STORY WELL
COMING IN ABOUT 20 MINUTES.
>> ANDREW: OKAY.
IN B.C., PEOPLE ARE SHOCKED AND
ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT LED
A JUDGE TO STAY A MURDER CHARGE.
EFFECTIVELY ENDING THE CASE
AGAINST A NOTORIOUS GANGSTER.
>> INTERVIEW: HOW DO WE ACCEPT
THAT?
I FEEL LIKE SCREAMING AND
RUNNING TO THE END OF THE WORLD
TODAY.
MY LIFE, MY ENTIRE LIFE JUST
CRUMBLED ALL OFFER AGAIN.
-- OVER AGAIN.
>> ANDREW: THAT IS THE MOTHER OF
ONE OF SIX PEOPLE KILLED IN A
HIGH PROFILE CRIME IN 2007.
THE SO-CALLED SURREY 6.
AT THE TIME, JAMIE BACON WAS THE
LEADER OF THE GANG.
THE RED SCORPIONS.
HE IS ACCUSED OF BEING THE
MASTERMIND BEHIND THE ATTACKS.
THE CHARGES MURDER AND
CONSPIRACY.
HE WAS EXPECTED TO GO ON TRIAL
NEXT SPRING.
TODAY, A B.C. SUPREME COURT
JUDGE STAYED THE CHARGES.
NOW, HERE WHERE THINGS ARE
MURKY.
WE DON'T KNOW PRECISELY WHY THE
JUDGE MADE THE DECISION.
THE REASONS HAVE BEEN SEALED BY
THE COURT.
WE DO KNOW IT HAS SOMETHING TO
DO WITH HOW POLICE HANDLED
CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION.
THAT IS NOT A SATISFYING ANSWER.
HERE IS THE B.C. ATTORNEY
GENERAL.
>> WHEN I LEARNED OF THE COURT'S
DECISION TO STAY THE CHARGES FOR
THIS INDIVIDUAL, I WAS SHOCKED
AS I AM SURE ALL BRITISH
COLOMBIANS ARE RIGHT NOW.
THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS AND
ALL IMPACTED BY THE TERRIBLE
CRIME DESERVE PEACE AND WILL NOT
FIND IT TODAY.
>> ANDREW: AN APPEAL IS
POSSIBLE, HE SAID.
THE PROSECUTORS WILL LOOK OVER
THE DECISION.
IN THE MEANTIME, BACON WILL
REMAIN IN CUSTODY ON A SEPARATE
CHARGE OF COUNSELLING THE MURDER
OF AN INDIVIDUAL.
>>> THE CANADIAN FINANCE
MINISTER MAY HAVE HAD A ROUGH
MONTH.
THE CANADIAN ECONOMY DID PRETTY
WELL.
IT CREATED 80,000 NEW JOBS IN
NOVEMBER.
MANY OF THOSE WERE FULL-TIME.
THAT IS 8 TIMES WHAT WAS
EXPECTED.
THE GOOD NEWS IS NOT JUST FROM
LAST MONTH.
IT FOLLOWS A BANNER YEAR FOR JOB
CREATION.
AND FOR THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT,
THE TIMING HELPS.
HERE IS DAVID COCHRANE.
>> REPORTER: BUSINESS IS GOOD IN
THE BYWARD MARKET.
A HOT ECONOMY MEANS SWEET
SPENDING.
>> HOW IS BUSINESS?
>> VERY GOOD.
WE OPENED FRANCHISES AROUND
OTTAWA.
ONE OVER IN METCALFE.
WE EXPANDED.
>> REPORTER: YOU ARE EXPANDING,
THAT MEANS
YOU ARE HIRING?
>> REPORTER: 55 EMPLOYEES AT
THIS LOCATION, 22 MORE AT THE
SECOND ONE SHE MENTIONED.
6 MORE SHOPS OPENING OVER THE
NEXT FEW YEARS, CREATING
HUNDREDS OF NEW JOBS.
THOSE ARE FULL-TIME JOBS?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> REPORTER: 22 FULL-TIME JOBS
OVER THE PAST YEAR
YOU ADDED FOR THE OPERATION, THE
EXPANSION?
>> INTERVIEW: YES.
>> REPORTER: IT IS THE TIME FOR
HOLIDAY SPENDING.
BUT THE ECONOMY IS NOT JUST
PUMPING OUT SEASONAL JOBS AND IT
IS NOT JUST THIS MONTH.
IT IS 12 STRAIGHT MONTHS OF
GROWTH.
WHICH HAS SEEN 390,000 JOBS.
PUSHING UNEMPLOYMENT TO THE
LOWEST RATE SINCE 2008 WHEN THE
GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS HIT.
>> ORDER.
>> REPORTER: A YEAR OF GOOD
ECONOMICS, AFTER WEEKS OF TOUGH
POLITICS.
>> WHY DOESN'T HE JUST DO THE
RIGHT THING AND RESIGN.
>> WILL THE FINANCE MINISTER DO
THE RIGHT THING AND RESIGN.
>> REPORTER: THE OPPOSITION
CALLING FOR FINANCE MINISTER
BILL MORNEAU TO QUIT, HIS BOSS
USED THE ECONOMY AS A SHIELD.
>> PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN
TRUDEAU: WE HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE
IN THE MINISTER OF FINANCE, ONE
HAS TO LOOK AT THE HALF OF
MILLION NEW JOBS TO UNDERSTAND
WHY.
>> REPORTER: THE NUMBER MAKE THE
SHIELD STRONGER AS THE BATTLE
MOVES ONLINE.
THE LIBERALS KEEP BOASTING AND
THE CONSERVATIVES KEEP PUSHING
FOR MORNEAU TO LOSE HIS JOB
WHILE THE ECONOMY CREATES
THOUSANDS.
DAVID COCHRANE, CBC NEWS,
OTTAWA.
>> ANDREW: THE MESSAGE ON THE
WORLD AIDS DAY SEEMS TO BE
UNANIMOUS.
THERE HAS BEEN MAJOR PROGRESS IN
THE FIGHT AGAINST HIV AND AIDS.
BUT THERE IS STILL PLENTY MORE
TO BE DONE.
>> H.I.V.-AIDS IS AN EPIDEMIC
THAT FUELS, THAT FEEDS ON
DISCRIMINATION AND EXCLUSION.
ON COMMUNITIES SUCH AS GAY MEN,
TRANSGENDER PEOPLE, ABORIGINAL,
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE
WORLD.
PEOPLE WHO INJECT DRUGS.
SEX WORKERS.
PRISONERS.
PEOPLE ON THE FRINGES OF
SOCIETY.
>> ANDREW: THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT HOSTED AN
INTERNATIONAL SYMPOSIUM TODAY.
ONE OF THE KEY MESSAGES TO THE
PROVINCES, LET'S STOP UNFAIRLY
PROSECUTING PEOPLE WHO DON'T
DISCLOSE THEIR HIV STATUS TO
SEXUAL PARTNERS.
AT ISSUE, THE CASES WHERE VIRAL
LOAD IS SO LOW, THERE IS NO RISK
OF TRANSMISSION TO BEGIN WITH.
TODAY ONTARIO ANNOUNCED IT WILL
STOP PURSUING CRIMINAL CHARGES
IN THOSE CASES.
>>> THAT IS SEEN AS PROGRESS.
BUT OF ALL THE DIFFERENT GROUPS
IN CANADA, IT IS THE INDIGENOUS
POPULATION THAT HAS BEEN
PARTICULARLY HARD HIT BY HIV.
WITH MUCH HIGHER INFECTION RATES
THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
THAT RAISED DEEP CONCERN ABOUT
INADEQUATE TESTING IN REMOTE
COMMUNITIES.
CAMERON MACINTOSH LOOKS AT ONE
EFFORT TO FIX THAT.
>> REPORTER: CANADA'S HIGH
SECURITY, HIGH-TECH NATIONAL HIV
LAB ARE FULL OF LEADING EDGE
EXPERTISE AND TECHNOLOGY.
YET TO BREAKTHROUGH ONE OF
H.I.V.-AIDS MOST DAUNTING
CHALLENGES, THE SCIENTISTS ARE
GOING LOW-TECH.
>> IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE
HOTTEST OR LATEST MEDICAL
INTERVENTION, DRUGS, ET CETERA,
ET CETERA.
IT ALL STARTS WITH KNOWING WHAT
YOUR STATUS IS.
>> REPORTER: JOHN KIM IS WORKING
ON A NEW WAY TO GET THROUGH TO
THE ROUGHLY ONE IN FIVE
CANADIANS WITH H.I.V.-AIDS WHO
ARE UNDIAGNOSED.
>> INTERVIEW: THIS IS SOMETHING
KNOWN AS A DRY BLOOD SPOT CARD.
>> REPORTER: IT IS SIMPLE.
PRICK A FINGER, DAB SOME BLOOD,
MAIL IT IN.
NO DOCTORS, NO CLINICS.
>> WHAT IS THE GREAT ADVANTAGE
OF IT?
>> SOMETIMES THERE ARE REASONS
WHY
PEOPLE DO NOT WANT ACCESS, YOU
KNOW, STANDARD HEALTH CARE
SERVICES.
ONE CAN BE
BECAUSE OF STIGMA, ONE COULD BE
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO
ACCESS THEM.
>> REPORTER: THAT IS THE
CHALLENGE IN INDIGENOUS
COMMUNITIES.
WHERE HIV RATES CAN BE MORE THAN
TWICE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
YET TESTING RATES ARE AMONG
CANADA'S LOWEST.
MANITOBA'S SWAN LAKE FIRST
NATION SEES IT AS AN EMERGING
CRISIS.
>> INTERVIEW: THERE IS A LACK OF
TRUST BETWEEN THE PATIENT AND
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN A NUMBER
OF CASES.
I THINK THAT RELATIONSHIP NEEDS
TO BE REPAIRED.
>> INTERVIEW: WE CANNOT JUST SIT
BACK AND WAIT FOR A SAMPLE TO
ARRIVE IN THE LABORATORY.
>> REPORTER: PAUL SANDSTROM IS
THE NATIONAL LAB DIRECTOR.
MAKING HEADWAY IN THE
COMMUNITIES IS A PRIORITY.
>> INTERVIEW: IT PREVENTS
INDIVIDUALS FROM TRANSMITTING
THE VIRUS ONWARDS.
AND SO THERE IS A LARGE PUBLIC
HEALTH IMPACT.
>> REPORTER: WITH THE BLOOD
SPOT, THE IDEA IS ANY TRUSTED
COMMUNITY MEMBER CAN
ADMINISTRATE THE TEST.
>> THIS IS ALL YOU WOULD NEED.
THIS IS ALL YOU NEED.
SLIP IT INTO A BACKPACK.
>> REPORTER: ALL TO TRY TO TRACE
AND STOP THE VIRUS'S MOVEMENT
THROUGH A COMMUNITY.
MARTIN IS OPTIMISTIC.
>> INTERVIEW: VERY VIABLE
APPROACH.
>> REPORTER: THE PUBLIC HEALTH
AGENCY OF CANADA PLANS TO ROLL
OUT A PILOT PROJECT NEXT YEAR.
CBC NEWS, WINNIPEG.
>> ANDREW: NOW, WHETHER IT IS IN
REMOTE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES OR
THE HEART OF THE CITY, THE
BATTLE AGAINST AIDS CAN ONLY BE
-- BENEFIT FROM PUBLIC
AWARENESS.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING PRINCE
HARRY HELPED WITH AGAIN TODAY.
ALONG WITH HIS FIANCE AT AN
ANNUAL WORLD AIDS DAY CHARITY
EVENT.
JOT --
>> Interview: THE PRINCE HAS
BEEN COMING TO THE EVENT.
HIV IS ONE OF THE PRINCE'S
MAIN CAUSES.
WHEN PEOPLE LIKE THE ROYAL
FAMILY SUPPORT, IT REALLY DOES
RAISE THE PROFILE OF THE CAUSE.
>> ANDREW: THE APPEARANCE WAS
THE FIRST OFFICIAL PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT FOR HARRY AND MEGHAN
MARKLE.
AND BY ALL ACCOUNTS, IT WENT
VERY WELL.
BUT EVEN FOR THE STAR OF A
HUGELY POPULAR TV SHOW, THE
IS
ATTENTION SHE GOT TODAY MUST
HAVE FELT A LITTLE OVERWHELMING.
>>> IT MAKES ONE HOPE THAT
SHE IS READY FOR THE EXPOSURE
THAT COMES WITH BEING A ROYAL.
AS THOMAS DAIGLE TELLS US, SHE
IS ABOUT TO GET A LOT MORE OF
IT.
>> REPORTER: CALL IT ON-THE-JOB
TRAINING.
HER FIRST STEPS IN A WORLD HE
HAS KNOWN HIS WHOLE LIFE.
>> HE IS A GREAT FELLOW.
I THINK
HE CHOSE A REALLY NICE LADY.
>> INTERVIEW: SHE IS SO
PROGRESSIVE AND NEW TO THE ROYAL
FAMILY.
IT IS AMAZING.
>> REPORTER: AS AN ACTOR, MEGHAN
MARKLE MAY BE USED TO THE
SPOTLIGHT, SURE.
THERE IS A LEARNING CURVE TO
BECOMING A ROYAL.
>> THANK YOU.
>> REPORTER: GETTING SHOWERED
WITH ADMIRATION, EVEN GIFTS,
JUST FOR SHOWING UP.
>> I SUSPECT THEY WILL FRAME IT.
THEIR OUTING TOGETHER.
>> REPORTER: AND STAYING HUMBLE
ENOUGH TO PICK UP A FAN'S LOST
GLOVE.
>> KATE DID NOT GO OUT UNTIL
SOME TIME AFTER ENGAGEMENT WAS
ANNOUNCED.
FOUR OR FIVE DAYS LATER, SHE IS
OUT.
LOOK AT THE REACTION.
PEOPLE LOVE HER.
>> REPORTER: AT SOME POINT THE
COUPLE BENT THE UNWRITTEN ROYAL
RULES,
GETTING, TOUCHY, FEELY.
PRINCE HARRY SAID THIS IS A
PLACE THAT HAS A SPECIAL PLACE
IN HIS HEART.
THAT IS WHY
HE WANTED TO SHARE IT WITH HIS
FIANCE IN THE FIRST PUBLIC
OUTING TOGETHER.
IT SEEMS PRINCE HARRY HAS A
SPECIAL PLACE IN THE HEARTS OF
MANY HERE IN NOTTINGHAM.
HERE IS WHY.
HIS WORK WITH LOCAL CHARITIES
LIKE THIS ONE.
HELPING TO REDUCE YOUTH
VIOLENCE.
OR ACROSS TOWN AT A WORLD AIDS
DAY EVENT, FOLLOWING IN THE
FOOTSTEPS OF HARRY'S MOTHER WHO
LENT A CARING TOUCH TO AIDS
PATIENTS WHILE SOME STILL
CONSIDERED THAT RISKY.
>> INTERVIEW: PEOPLE SAY THEY
ARE NOT IMPORTANT OR RELEVANT.
I THINK TODAY --
>> REPORTER: THEY WILL SHARE
MORE OUTINGS LIKE THIS.
FOR MEGHAN MARKLE IT IS A NEW
JOB AND A NEW LIFE.
WITH MORE ROYAL FIRSTS AHEAD.
>> IAN: STILL TO COME TONIGHT ON
"THE NATIONAL", WE WILL RETURN
TO THE TOP STORY, THE MICHAEL
FLYNN GUILTY PLEA.
TWO JOURNALISTS WHO COVERED
DONALD TRUMP ON WHAT IS NEXT ON
THE INVESTIGATION AND FOR THE
PRESIDENT.
>> ANDREW: A QUEBEC BILL IS
SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS SEXUAL
HARASSMENT ON CAMPUS.
AND ASSAULT
A VICTIM SAID IT DOES NOT GO FAR
ENOUGH.
>> Ian: FROM CAMPUSES TO
HOLLYWOOD, THERE IS A
LOT OF TALK ABOUT SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT.
WHAT DO TEENAGE GIRLS HAVE TO
SAY?
WE WILL HEAR FROM THEM ABOUT
HEADLINES, CONSENT AND WHAT
BOYS NEED TO KNOW.
>> Interview: ANY TIME WHEN
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>> THERE IS OVERWHELMING
EVIDENCE ON THIS CHARGE AND THIS
IS A PROPER, RIGHT FAIR VERDICT.
IAN BUSH IS A VERY DANGEROUS
MAN.
>> AN OTTAWA MAN SERVING TIME
FOR MURDERING THREE PEOPLE HAS
ES --
BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF TRYING TO
KILL SOMEONE ELSE.
IAN BUSH WAS CONVICTED IN
CONNECTION WITH AN ATTACK ON A
SECOND WORLD WAR VETERAN.
BUSH ENTERED COTE'S HOUSE AND
TIED HIM UP, ROBBED HIM AND LEFT
HIM FOR DEAD.
HE SURVIVED THE ATTACK BUT
HE DIED THREE MONTHS LATER.
>> MAYBE JUST FOR A SHORT TIME.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME IT
WOULD TAKE.
AT THIS MOMENT, MY DIGNITY IS
PRESERVED.
>> ANDREW: IT IS GOOD NEWS FOR
THOSE WHO THOUGHT QUEBEC'S FORAY
INTO RELIGIOUS NEUTRALITY WENT
TOO FAR.
A JUDGE SUSPENDED A SECTION OF
THE NEW LAW THAT PREVENTS PEOPLE
WHO ARE WEARING FACE COVERINGS
FROM ACCESSING PUBLIC SERVICES.
THE SUSPENSION WILL REMAIN IN
PLACE UNTIL THE QUEBEC
GOVERNMENT PROVIDES MORE DETAILS
ON HOW THE BAN WILL ACTUALLY
WORK.
>>> A RULING TODAY COULD MAKE IT
EASIER FOR HOME BUYERS IN
TORONTO ACCESS DETAILED MARKET
DATA.
INCLUDING WHAT HOMES PREVIOUSLY
SOLD FOR.
THE FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
UPHELD AN EARLIER RULING THAT
THAT KIND OF THING SHOULD BE
PUBLIC AND THIS COULD RIPPLE
OUT AND SET A PRECEDENT IN OTHER
MARKETS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
POSSIBLY MAKING IT EASIER TO BUY
AND SELL REAL ESTATE WITHOUT AN
AGENT.
HOWEVER, THE TORONTO REAL ESTATE
BOARD SAID IT DOES PLAN TO
APPEAL.
>>> LONG BEFORE THE FALL OF
HARVEY WEINSTEIN RAISED ISSUES
OF POWER AND CONSENT, QUEBEC HAS
BEEN ALARMED BY SEXUAL VIOLENCE
ON POST SECONDARY CAMPUSES.
A SURVEY SUGGESTED A QUARTER OF
ALL STUDENTS HAVE BEEN ABUSED,
HARASSEDED -- HARASSED.
>> INTERVIEW: WE NEED A PROCESS
TO MAKE THE VICTIM FEEL SAFE TO
GO AND MAKE A COMPLAINT.
>> Andrew: LAST MONTH, THE
GOVERNMENT TABLED A BILL TO
FORCE THE INSTITUTIONS TO PUT
POLICIES IN PLACE, A COMPLAINT
PROCEDURE AND A CODE OF CONDUCT.
FOR INTIMATE RELATIONSHIPS
BETWEEN STUDENTS AND STAFF.
THAT BILL DOES NOT ADDRESS ONE
PARTICULAR MURKY AREA.
IF A STAFF MEMBER IS PUNISHED
FOR MISCONDUCT, SOME
UNIVERSITIES ARGUE THAT CAN'T BE
DIVULGED.
NOT EVEN TO VICTIMS BECAUSE OF
PROVINCIAL PRIVACY RULES.
VERONIQUE PRONOVOST KNOWS ABOUT
THE SHROUD OF SECRECY.
SHE IS STILL IN DARK 6 YEARS
AFTER AN ENCOUNTER WITH A
PROFESSOR LEFT HER REELING.
>> INTERVIEW: I WAS FEELING VERY
ALONE AND I DID NOT KNOW HOW TO
REACT.
I FELT LIKE WHO I AM A LITTLE
STUDENT TO BOTHER THE LIFE OF A
WELL-KNOWN AND ESTABLISHED
PROFESSOR.
DURING A PARTY, MID-SEMESTER, HE
BECAME INSISTANT AND HE WAS
TRYING TO KISS ME AND KISS ME.
AT THE END OF THE EVENING, HE
JUST TOOK MY HAND AND PUT IT
INTO HIS PANTS.
DIRECTLY JUST LIKE THAT.
I FELT ASHAMED BECAUSE I FELT
LIKE MAYBE I DID NOT DO ENOUGH.
LIKE I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE
DISTANT OR MORE -- MY NO SHOULD
HAVE BEEN LOUDER OR I SHOULD
HAVE PUSHED HIM.
I HAD BEEN DRINKING, HE HAD BEEN
DRINKING.
I WROTE AN E-MAIL TO THE
PROFESSOR A FEW DAYS AFTER
SAYING I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH
WHAT HAPPENED.
AND HE BASICALLY ANSWER ME, YOU
KNOW WHAT, WE ARE TWO ADULTS.
IT WAS CONSENSUAL.
AND INFORMED ME IT WAS
CONSENSUAL.
IT TOOK ME THREE YEARS BEFORE TO
FILE A COMPLAINT.
WHEN I SAW THE STICKERS ON THE
DOORS OF PROFESSORS, IT BROUGHT
BACK EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED.
>> THE STUDENTS DECIDED TO NAME
AND SHAME THREE PROFESSORS THEY
ACCUSE OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
>> INTERVIEW: SOME PEOPLE FROM
THE ADMINISTRATION GOING TO THE
MEDIA AND SAID THERE ARE NO
OFFICIAL COMPLAINTS.
AS LONG AS THERE ARE NO OFFICIAL
COMPLAINTS, THERE ARE NO PROBLEM
OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE ON CAMPUS.
THAT MADE ME GO MAD.
MY COMPLAINT WAS TAKEN VERY
SERIOUSLY.
THE OFFICE HERE DECIDED TO MEET
ME AND GIVE ME THE REPORT SAYING
CONGRATULATIONS, WE ARE RULING
ON YOUR SIDE.
BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT
HAPPENED.
THAT IS WHEN MY SECOND TIME I
WENT MAD IN A WAY BECAUSE I DID
NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING
ON.
YOU ARE TELLING ME I WIN, BUT
YOU ARE NOT TELLING ME WHAT WILL
HAPPEN WITH THE PROFESSOR.
HOW CAN I GET A RELIEF OUT OF
THAT?
HOW CAN I GET ANY KIND OF
CLOSURE?
UNFORTUNATELY I SAW HIM ON
CAMPUS.
YOU TURN THE CORNER, HE IS
THERE.
YOU HAVE TO FACE THE SITUATION.
DO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO
FORWARD AND MAKE A COMPLAINT?
I THINK IT DEPENDS A LOT ON THE
PERSON, THE SITUATION.
WHY WOULD VICTIMS GO FORWARD AND
MAKE A COMPLAINT IF THEY DON'T
GET ANYTHING BACK IN TERMS OF
CLOSURE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT
THE END OF THE PROCESS?
SO I AM ONE OF THE FEW -- I
DON'T HAVE THE FEELING THAT I
WON ANYTHING.
>> ANDREW: THE UNIVERSITY TOLD
CBC NEWS...
THAT MAY CHANGE, THE QUEBEC
MINISTER OF HIGHER EDUCATION IS
SAYING SHE IS OPEN TO AMENDING
HER BILL.
TO BETTER LOOP IN VICTIMS IN
SOME CASES.
>> IAN: THE STUDENTS FORM THE
VIEWS ON SEX AND CONSENT BEFORE
UNIVERSITY.
HIGH SCHOOLS CANNOT IGNORE THE
CURRENT CONVERSATION.
>> THERE IS A PROBLEM IN
SOCIETY.
WE ARE PART OF THE SOCIETY.
IT IS MAGNIFYING IN THE SCHOOLS.
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK IN THE
HALLWAYS AND THE TEENAGE YEARS
AND TESTOSTERONE AND ESTROGEN,
KIDS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
>> IAN: STUDENTS LEARN ABOUT
CONSENT IN GRADE 9.
AT THE TORONTO DISTRICT SCHOOL
BOARD.
CHRISTINE BIRAK ASKED TO MEET
WITH SOME OF THEM TO TALK ABOUT
HOW THEY ARE DEALING WITH NEWS
ABOUT SEXUAL MISCONDUCT.
>> REPORTER: INSIDE THE HALLS,
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IT.
THE GROWING LIST OF SEXUAL
CONSENT SCANDALS.
>> A SWIFT RESPONSE FROM
EMPLOYERS, A VERSION OF AN
APOLOGY AND WHAT IS NOW CLEAR,
YOU
CANNOT BE...
>> Reporter: WE ASKED GRADE 9
STUDENTS TO TELL US WHAT THEY
THINK AND HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT
ALL.
ALTHOUGH NO BOYS STEPPED
FORWARD, THESE 14-YEAR-OLD GIRLS
SAID, LET'S TALK.
>> WHAT IS YOUR IMPRESSION OF
WHAT IS GOING ON?
WHAT NAMES STOOD OUT FOR YOU?
>> HARVEY WEINSTEIN.
>> THE REASON WHY THE WOMEN
STAYED SILENT SO LONG, THEY
THOUGHT NOTHING WOULD CHANGE.
OR THEY WEREN'T POWERFUL.
AND I THINK IF THEY ALL STOOD UP
LIKE WHAT THEY ARE DOING NOW,
THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN SOLVED A
LONG TIME AGO.
>> REPORTER: DO YOU WONDER WHY
IT TOOK SO LONG?
>> YEAH.
I WONDER WHY IT TOOK SO LONG.
>> REPORTER: WHAT SORT OF
QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE ABOUT WHAT
IS HAPPENING?
>> HOW DID IT LEAD TO THIS?
>> WHY AREN'T PEOPLE STANDING
UP.
JUST BECAUSE THE ONE PERSON IS
POWERFUL.
WHY ISN'T LIKE HUNDREDS OF
PEOPLE LIKE JUST STOPPING IT?
>> REPORTER: MY UNDERSTANDING
WHY WE CAME TO TALK TO GRADE 9S.
YOU START TO LEARN ABOUT SEXUAL
CONSENT IN GRADE 9.
I WANT TO GET A SENSE WHAT SO
FAR YOU HAVE TAKEN AWAY FROM
THAT CLASS?
WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED?
>> IF SOMEONE SAYS YES, IT ALSO
MEANS THAT ANY TIME WHEN THEY
WANT TO WITHDRAW THAT YES AND
SAY NO.
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT,
CONSENT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU
COULD GIVE OR TAKE AWAY AT ANY
MOMENT.
>> ONE OTHER THING IS THAT IF
THEY SAY YES TO SOMETHING LIKE
FOR A SIMPLE HUG, IT DOESN'T
MEAN THEY ARE OKAY WITH
SOMETHING ELSE.
LIKE HOLDING HANDS OR
SOMETHING, SO THEY SHOULD ASK
CONSENT EVERY TIME.
>> REPORTER: DO YOU FEEL LIKE
ENOUGH PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT?
>> INTERVIEW: NO.
>> REPORTER: HOW DO YOU DEAL
ABOUT THE FACT THAT NO BOYS
WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS TODAY?
>> QUITE DISAPPOINTED.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IN THE MEDIA,
IT IS ABOUT MEN ASSAULTING
WOMEN.
WOULDN'T IT BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW
ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT
CONSENT COMPARED TO WHAT WE
THINK ABOUT CONSENT.
>> REPORTER: WHY DO YOU THINK
THEY ARE NOT HERE?
>> I THINK THEY ARE -- IF YOU
TALK BAD -- IF SOMEONE TALKS BAD
ABOUT YOUR GENDER, YOU DON'T
KNOW HOW TO REPLY.
>> JUST BECAUSE THESE GROUP OF
MEN ARE DOING SOMETHING BAD, IT
DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD LOOK AT
ALL MEN THE SAME.
THEY ARE HUMAN.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN OPINIONS.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY FEEL.
>> REPORTER: WHAT DO YOU THINK
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD,
ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT YOU ARE
HEARING.
DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE THE SAME
IN THE FUTURE?
>> HOPEFULLY IT IS NOT THE
SAME.
>> I SEE MORE AND MORE WOMEN
STANDING UP.
IF EVERYONE, NOT JUST WOMEN AND
GUYS TOO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS
GOING ON, I FEEL LIKE IT CAN
MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE.
>> REPORTER: YOU GUYS ARE
AMAZING.
>> ANDREW: MORE CONVERSATIONS
LIKE THAT.
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
OKAY.
AHEAD TONIGHT ON "THE NATIONAL",
THEY MAKE UP HALF THE
POPULATION.
BUT SYRIAN WOMEN DON'T HAVE A
STRONG VOICE IN THE COUNTRY'S
FUTURE.
WE WILL HEAR FROM A WOMAN
FIGHTING TO CHANGE THAT.
>> IAN: MORE ON THE TOP STORIES,
MICHAEL FLYNN COOPERATING WITH
THE INVESTIGATION INTO HIS OLD
BOSS.
WE WILL TALK TO TWO JOURNALISTS
WHO HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS
VERY CLOSELY.
>> LOCK HIM UP!
LOCK HIM UP!
>> IAN: LET'S GET BACK TO THE
TOP STORY, THE GUILTY PLEA BY
DONALD TRUMP'S FORMER NATIONAL
SECURITY ADVISOR MICHAEL FLYNN.
HE ADMITTED TO LYING TO THE
F.B.I. ABOUT HIS CONTACT WITH
RUSSIA'S THEN AMBASSADOR TO THE
UNITED STATES.
AND TO HELP US WITH SOME
ANALYSIS, WE ARE JOINED BY TWO
JOURNALISTS WHO REPORTED
EXTENSIVELY IN THE STORY.
IN NEW YORK, HE WORKS FOR THE
WASHINGTON POST.
WORKING FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES.
KENNETH, LET'S BEGIN WITH YOU.
WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE
GUILTY PLEA TODAY?
>> INTERVIEW: WELL, THE
SIGNIFICANCE IS THAT IT GETS
THINGS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE PRIME
TARGET OF THIS INVESTIGATION
WHICH IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES, DONALD TRUMP.
WE HAVE IN THE PAPERS SUBMITTED
BY THE MUELLER TEAM THAT
INCLUDED TO THE CHARGES FLYNN
PLED GUILTY.
TWO SENIOR OFFICIALS FLYNN
TALKED BEFORE A PARTICULAR
CONVERSATION WITH THE THEN
RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR SERGEY
KISLYAK.
IT DOES NOT NAME THE OFFICIALS
BUT SUBSEQUENT REPORTING IS
POINTING STRONGLY IN THE
DIRECTION OF ONE OF THEM BEING
JARED KUSHNER.
NONE OTHER THAN THE PRESIDENT'S
SON-IN-LAW AND THE DEPUTY
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR THE
OTHER.
HERE YOU HAVE NOT COLLUSION, BUT
CONVERSATIONS THAT INTERACTION
WITH THE RUSSIANS BEING
UNDERTAKEN BY FLYNN.
AT THE DIRECTION OF THE SENIOR
MOST PEOPLE AROUND DONALD TRUMP
IF NOT DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF
DURING THE TRANSITION PERIOD.
>> IAN: PHILIP, PICK UP ON THAT.
CLOSER, BUT HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO
THE PRESIDENT?
>> IT IS HARD TO SAY.
WE DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT WHAT
ROBERT MUELLER WE KNOWS.
-- KNOWS THAT WE DON'T.
WE HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS SPRUNG
ON US OVER THE PAST MONTH AND A
HALF.
BEGINNING WITH THE MANAFORT
INDICTMENTS AT THE END OF
OCTOBER.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE,
WE KNOW THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE WHO
ARE PROBABLY WORKING WITH ROBERT
MUELLER WHO ARE PEOPLE WHO HAD
SOME SORT OF ASSOCIATION WITH
DONALD TRUMP OR THE CAMPAIGN WHO
ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TO PROVIDE
TESTIMONY TO MUELLER OR WHO ARE
WILLING TO SPEAK AS TO WHAT WAS
HAPPENING MORE BROADLY.
THOSE ARE FLYNN WHO WE BELIEVE
VERY
STRONGLY TO BE SOMEONE WHO HAS
MADE A DEAL WITH ROBERT MUELLER
AND ROBERT MUELLER WILL NOT MAKE
A DEAL IF FLYNN GIVES HIM A
LOWER LEVEL
STAFFER.
THERE IS SIGNIFICANCE.
THERE IS GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS WHO
WE BELIEVE IS COOPERATING AS
WELL WHO WAS SORT OF PRESENTED
TO THE WORLD A MONTH AGO.
THAT IS SIGNIFICANT THERE ARE
MUELLER HAS TWO MORE CARDS THAT
HE CAN PLAY IN THE GAME STILL.
>> IAN: KEEPING IN MIND YOU ARE
SPEAKING TO A CANADIAN AUDIENCE.
WE HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE
WORD IMPEACHMENT.
OCCASIONALLY.
IT IS A POLITICAL PROCESS, NOT A
LEGAL ONE.
WHERE ARE WE ON THE ROAD TOWARD
EVEN
THE POSSIBILITY OF IMPEACHMENT?
>> WE ARE EXACTLY WHERE WE WERE
YESTERDAY WHICH IS NOT EVEN AT
THE STARTING LINE.
WE ARE PROBABLY 400 YARDS BEHIND
THE STARTING LINE.
400 METRES, I SHOULD SAY.
WHEN YOU SAY IT IS A POLITICAL
PROCESS.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO REINFORCE
WHAT IT MEANS.
IT MEANS THAT
IN ORDER FOR DONALD TRUMP TO BE
REMOVED FROM OFFICE, IT IS UP TO
THE PEOPLE ON CAPITOL HILL TO DO
SO.
CAPITOL HILL AS PEOPLE ARE
FAMILIAR IS CONTROLLED BY
REPUBLICANS.
THEY HAVE NO INTEREST,
PARTICULARLY RIGHT NOW WHEN THEY
ARE ABOUT TO PASS THE TAX
PACKAGE, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING
ON FOR A LONG TIME.
THERE IS NO INTEREST TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH IMPEACHMENT OF
DONALD TRUMP.
WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT
HAPPENS AFTER THE PRIMARIES NEXT
YEAR.
EVERY REPUBLICAN WHO IS A MEMBER
OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION.
THEY WILL FACE PRIMARY
CHALLENGES FROM OTHER
REPUBLICANS.
THEY WILL NOT WANT TO SPEAK OUT
AGAINST A POPULAR PRESIDENT.
AFTER THAT, WE WILL SEE.
>> Ian: IMPEACHMENT AND THE
POLITICAL PROCESS, KENNETH, WHAT
ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF
CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST THE
PRESIDENT, NOT EVEN WHETHER THE
EVIDENCE IS THERE, LET'S PUT
THAT ASIDE.
WE ARE NOT AT THAT POINT.
BUT WHETHER WE WOULD EVER SEE
CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST A
SITTING PRESIDENT?
>> YEAH, THERE ARE FEW SORT OF
PARALLEL TRACKS MOVING IN THE
MUELLER INVESTIGATION AND THE
CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATIONS.
IT IS HARD TO SEE HOW THEY GET
TO THAT POINT.
YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
OR MAYBE EVEN PERJURY TRACK.
WHAT FLYNN IS OFFERING COULD
POTENTIALLY ADVANCE THINGS ALONG
THAT ROUTE A LITTLE BIT.
BECAUSE HE IS TELLING A STORY TO
MUELLER THAT CAN BE USED TO
CHECK FOR DISCREPANCY IN THE
STATEMENTS MADE BY OTHER SENIOR
MEMBERS OF THE TEAM UP TO AND
INCLUDING DONALD TRUMP.
IN FACT,
DONALD TRUMP EXPLICITLY SAID TO
THE PRESS, NOT NECESSARILY TO
ROBERT MUELLER AND ANYONE AROUND
THE MUELLER TEAM THAT HE DID NOT
INSTRUCT FLYNN TO PARTICIPATE IN
ANY KIND OF BACK CHANNEL
COMMUNICATION WITH SERGEY
KISLYAK.
WE HAVE THE REAL POSSIBILITY, HE
WAS AWARE OF THEM OR THE SENIOR
MEMBERS OF THE TEAM.
IF IT COULD BE SHOWN HE LIED NOT
TO THE PRESS, I WISH IT WERE A
CRIME, BUT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT
BUT THAT, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY
HAVE OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE OR
PERJURY.
YOU HAVE THE BIGGER COLLUSION
ISSUE.
AND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO BRING
CRIMINAL CHARGES THERE.
I DON'T THINK WE ARE CLOSE TO
THAT.
THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER SORT OF
LESS TALK ABOUT TRACK THEY ARE
EXAMINING THE MUELLER TEAM AND
THE CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATORS
ARE EXAMINE PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
BUSINESS INTEREST AND HOW THEY
MAY OVERLAP WITH RUSSIA AND
WHETHER HIS DEBTS ARE TIED TO
RUSSIA AND THAT WE ARE EVEN
FURTHER FROM THE POSSIBILITY OF
ANY KIND OF CRIMINAL CHARGES.
>> IAN: PHILIP WE HAVE 30
SECONDS.
LET ME GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD.
THIS IS A TOUGH ONE.
I MEAN,
AWAY FROM NEW YORK CITY, AWAY
FROM WASHINGTON, D.C.,
PARTICULARLY AMONG 30%, THE CORE
SUPPORTER OF DONALD TRUMP, DO
YOU THINK THAT THEIR STAKE WILL
BE SHAKEN ALL IN HIM BY THE
FLYNN
GUILTY PLEA?
>> NO.
NOT IN THE LEAST.
I MEAN -- THEY ARE FEW AMERICANS
WHO AT THIS POINT IN TIME ARE
STILL WILLING TO HAVE THEIR
MINDS CHANGED ABOUT DONALD
TRUMP.
PEOPLE WHO HATE HIM ARE PRETTY
MUCH GOING TO HATE HIM FOR AS
LONG AS HE IS PRESIDENT.
THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE HIM, THE
OPPOSITE IS TRUE.
WE SAW THE REACTION HERE.
THE REACTION IS, THIS IS, YOU
KNOW, THIS IS ALL THEY CAN GET
ON FLYNN.
ONE THING THAT WAS COMMON TODAY.
FLYNN, OF COURSE HE IS A LIAR,
HE IS IN WASHINGTON WAS ANOTHER
THING.
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DEFEND TRUMP
WILL KEEP DEFENDING TRUMP.
I DON'T SEE THIS CHANGING THAT
AT ALL.
>> IAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> ANDREW: AND STILL AHEAD,
SYRIAN PEACE TALKS STALL IN
GENEVA, A GROUP OF WOMEN ARE
FIGHTING FOR THEIR CHANCE TO
HAVE A SAY IN
SHAPING THE COUNTRY'S FUTURE.
>> INTERVIEW: NOW, IS ALWAYS THE
RIGHT TIME TO DO EVERYTHING.
IF WE WAIT UNTIL THE
NEGOTIATIONS ARE OVER, AND
>> THE LANGUAGE WAS
IRRESPONSIBLE POLITICALLY
SPEAKING AND GOES BEYOND THE
HOPES OF THE SYRIAN PEOPLE IN
THIS KIND OF TALKS.
>> ANDREW: WITH THAT,
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE SYRIAN
GOVERNMENT LEFT PEACE TALKS IN
GENEVA.
THREATENING NOT TO RETURN.
THE GOVERNMENT DELEGATION AND
THE OPPOSITION CAN'T AGREE ON A
KEY ISSUE.
THE FUTURE OF PRESIDENT BARBER
-- BASHER
AL-ASSAD.
THE OPPOSITION INSISTS THERE IS
NO PLACE FOR HIM IN THE POST-WAR
POLITICAL TRANSITION.
SYRIA FUTURE IS IN THE BALANCE.
WHO ARE THE PEOPLE DECIDING WHAT
HAPPENS NEXT?
AS ONE GROUP OF SYRIAN WOMEN
POINTED OUT, IT IS MOSTLY MEN.
WOMEN MAKE UP HALF OF THE
COUNTRY'S POPULATION.
SO FAR, HAVE HAD LITTLE TO SAY
AT THE NEGOTIATING TABLE.
>> REPORTER: THE REALITY IS
BRUTAL.
BUT NOW, IT IS NOT A BLANK
SLATE.
THERE IS AT LEAST A CHANCE FOR
CHANGE IN SYRIA.
THESE WOMEN ARE DEMANDING.
SHE IS
PART OF WHAT THE WOMEN SAY IS A
FIRST FOR SYRIA.
A FEMINIST WOMEN POLITICAL
MOVEMENT.
WE SPOKE IN ISTANBUL.
>> INTERVIEW: THERE ARE
DIFFERENT TYPES OF WOMEN IN THE
SYRIAN SOCIETY.
THERE ARE WOMEN WHO DON'T...
A LOT OF WOMEN HAVE PROFESSIONAL
CAREERS.
AND SOME ARE STAY-AT-HOME
MOTHERS AND WIFE.
FOR A LOT OF US, MOTHERS AND
GRANDMOTHERS HAD CAREERS.
HAD COLLEGE DEGREES.
THEY WORKED OUTSIDE THE HOUSE.
>> REPORTER: THE OPPOSITION
FEMINISTS WANT WOMEN OF ALL
POLITICAL BACKGROUNDS TO HAVE
AT LEAST
30% OF THE SEATS AT THE
NEGOTIATING TABLE.
>> REPORTER: THERE WILL BE
PEOPLE WHO SAY, MEN WHO SAY THIS
IS NOT THE TIME.
THERE ARE TOO MANY OTHER ISSUES
TO FOCUS ON.
THIS IS NOT THE TIME.
>> INTERVIEW: NOW IS ALWAYS THE
RIGHT TIME TO DO EVERYTHING.
IF WE WAIT UNTIL THE
NEGOTIATIONS ARE OVER, AND THEN
WE ARE STARTING EVERYTHING FROM
ZERO, IT WILL BE A LOT HARDER.
>> REPORTER: SHE MOVED TO THE
U.S. WHEN SHE WAS 14.
LONG BEFORE THE WAR, IT WAS
DANGEROUS FOR PEOPLE LIKE HER
PARENTS WHO DID NOT OPENLY
SUPPORT THE GOVERNMENT.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO
SAY YOU DON'T BELONG THE TABLE,
-- AT THE TABLE,
NOT BECAUSE YOU ARE A WOMAN BUT
BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN AWAY FROM
SYRIA.
OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY FOR SO
LONG?
>> INTERVIEW: WELL, AS WOMEN,
EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD, WE KNOW
WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE A WOMAN
TRYING TO LIVE AND WORK IN
POLITICS OR EVEN IN THE
PROFESSIONAL WORLD.
BUT AS SYRIAN WOMEN, WE HAVE
THAT FROM OUR ENVIRONMENT.
WHETHER THEY ARE INSIDE SYRIA OR
THEY HAVE BEEN TRANSPORTED
SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT ALSO A LARGE PORTION OF THE
WOMEN IN THE MOVEMENT ARE FROM
SYRIA.
AND MOST OF THEM HAVE RECENTLY
LEFT SYRIA.
>> REPORTER: WHY DO YOU THINK
YOU HAVE TO FIGHT TO GET A PLACE
AT THE NEGOTIATIONS?
>> TRADITIONAL ROLES.
I THINK IN TIMES OF WAR THIS IS
EVEN --
IT IS MORE SO BECAUSE YOU HAVE A
LOT OF THE VIOLENCE THAT IS
HAPPENING.
AND A LOT OF TIMES MEN THINK
THAT THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR
WOMEN.
THEY NEED TO PROTECT THEM.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS AN EXCUSE
AT ALL FOR THE POLITICAL BODIES
TO NOT HAVE THE WOMEN
REPRESENTED.
>> Reporter: THE U.N. SYRIA
ENVOY CREATED A SPECIAL ADVISORY
GROUP FOR SYRIAN WOMEN.
GOOD INTENTIONS, BAD EXECUTION,
THE FEM ANYS SAY THAT
PUSHES WOMEN TO THE MARGIN.
>> THERE AN ATTEMPT TO PUSH BACK
AND MARGINALIZE WHAT YOU STAY
-- SAY
AND WHAT YOU DO.
AND UNLESS YOU SORT OF STAND
THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT NO THIS
IS WHAT I BELIEVE AND THIS IS
WHAT I THINK IS TRUE, AND, YOU
KNOW, YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT OTHER
WOMEN.
WOMEN NEED TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER
MORE.
>> REPORTER: HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT
BRINGING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT
FACTIONS IN SYRIA TOGETHER?
IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE
OPPOSITION AND THE GOVERNMENT
ANYMORE?
>> INTERVIEW: WE ARE VERY
COMMITTED TO EQUALITY.
OF COURSE EQUALITY BETWEEN MEN
AND WOMEN AND EQUALITY AMONG ALL
COMPONENTS OF THE SYRIAN
POPULATION.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE
THAT CODIFIED.
>> REPORTER: WHAT BINDS YOU TO
SYRIA AFTER ALL THIS TIME?
>> INTERVIEW: THIS IS A REALLY
TOUGH QUESTION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK ME THAT.
FOR ME IT HAS BEEN ALMOST 25
YEARS SINCE I LEFT SYRIA.
I WAS A KID WHEN I LEFT.
I THINK IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH
THE UPBRINGING, THE SENSE THAT
WE DID NOT LEAVE SYRIA HAPPY.
NOBODY LEAVES THEIR COUNTRY AND
GOES SOMEWHERE COMPLETELY NEW, A
NEW LANGUAGE, A NEW CULTURE
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO.
MOST OF THE TIME THEY ARE FORCED
TO.
AND HAVING THE CHANCE -- HAVING
HAD THE CHANCE TO LIVE SOMEWHERE
WHERE I HAD ALL THE FREEDOMS
THAT YOU HAVE IN MOST WESTERN
COUNTRIES, I THOUGHT THAT, YOU
KNOW, SYRIA DESERVES THAT TOO.
>> REPORTER: IT IS EMOTIONAL.
>> INTERVIEW: IT IS.
IT IS.
WE HAPPEN TO LIVE IN A BUILDING
THAT HAD 16 UNITS.
EVERY UNIT HAD A FAMILY THAT
CAME FROM COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
BACKGROUNDS.
YOU HAD PEOPLE WHO WERE WAY FAR
LEFT.
TO PEOPLE WHO ARE SO RELIGIOUS.
EVERYBODY GOT ALONG SO WELL.
AND I FELT LIKE WE ARE ALL
SYRIANS.
I NEVER THOUGHT THAT THIS FAMILY
IS A CERTAIN RELIGION.
THAT FEELING ALWAYS COMES BACK
TO ME.
>> REPORTER: YOU SEE THAT FOR A
FUTURE.
>> YES.
>> REPORTER: IS IT POSSIBLE?
>> INTERVIEW: EVERYTHING IS
POSSIBLE.
>> ANDREW: WE WILL BE BACK IN A
MOMENT.
REMEMBER,
YOU CAN GO DEEPER ON THE STORIES
OF THE DAY EARLIER IN THE DAY.
>> ON "THE NATIONAL" TONIGHT,
REPORTS THAT U.S. MAY RECOGNIZE
JERUSALEM AS THE CAPITAL OF
ISRAEL, THAT WOULD BE AN
EXTREMELY CONTROVERSIAL MOVE.
PALESTINIANS CLAIMS IT, THE
BROADER COMMUNITY BELIEVES THE
DISPUTE SHOULD BE RESOLVED IN A
WIDER PEACE AGREEMENT.
>> Andrew: AN EMOTIONAL MOMENT
TODAY IN BANGLADESH AS POPE
FRANCIS MET WITH ROHINGYA
MUSLIM REFUGEES AND FOR THE
FIRST TIME ON HIS ASIAN TRIP HE
PUBLICLY USED THE WORD
ROHINGYA, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT
BECAUSE MYANMAR REFUSES TO USE
THAT WORD.
FRANCIS CALLED FOR THE GROUP TO
BE GIVEN RESPECT.
>> IF YOU HEAR THIS, GET
INSIDE, IF YOU ARE INDOORS,
STAY INDOORS.
>> Andrew: THAT WAS AN ATTACK
WARNING SIGNAL THAT WENT OFF
ACROSS THE STATE OF HAWAII
TODAY.
IT HASN'T BEEN USED SINCE THE
COLD WAR BUT IT'S BACK BECAUSE
OF NORTH KOREA.
OFFICIALS WANT RESIDENTS AND
TOURISTS TO BE PREPARED FOR A
POTENTIAL NUCLEAR ATTACK.
>> Ian: TODAY WITH SOUNDS OF
THE SEASON AT THE BROADCAST
CENTRE IN TORONTO, ONE OF MANY
FUNDRAISERS BEING HELD.
AND THAT HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE
HERE VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING.
>> PEOPLE HERE GOT IN LINE AT
1:00 A.M. THIS MORNING.
[*]
* SOMEONE SAY YEAH
>> Ian: AND SCENES LIKE THAT,
MAYBE NOT QUITE LIKE THAT, BUT
REPEATED THROUGHOUT THE DAY
HERE AT CBC.
$340,000 RAISED FOR FOOD BANKS
IN TORONTO.
A HUGE NUMBER, BUT MAN,
NOTHING, WELL SOMETHING, SURE
IS FASCINATING TO SEE HOW
VANCOUVER DID TODAY.
>> Andrew: FOOD BANK IS ALWAYS
HUGE IN VANCOUVER, I'M LOOKING
AT THE TOTAL, I WANT TO GET THE
OFFICIAL COUNT NOW, $695,157.78.
SO IT WAS A GREAT TIME HERE.
GREAT TO MEET PEOPLE, IT ALWAYS
FEELS A BIT LIKE A FAMILY
REUNION.
A LOT OF FUN TODAY.
>> Ian: AND THAT'S "THE
NATIONAL" FOR DECEMBER 1st.
GOOD NIGHT.
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