..if conditions are quite good on 40 meters
Anton said he was gonna record me which is very polite know so we don't better
go on aeroplane mode though very good day everybody my name is Calum from DX
commander and I've never had built a cobweb okay but my interest was sparked
when I was trying out an antenna which I have never you don't know about I called
it the banana the banana aerial and I was very keen on getting this built
launched into production and and and I have a song I was using the banana I was
thinking on 80 meters and I bumped into Steven Webb who did told me about his
cobweb and he made easy and and there was a particular component in the chain
of the banana and he said all know so that'll be and will be very good a lot
of losses there you know which is one of the reasons come where it is I put my
infrared gun because I thought if there's losses in that then it must heat
up so I can just squirt 400 watts through it and if it heats up he was
right but with mr. G father G 5rv being wrong in my opinion
then who knows so my interest was sparked I didn't quite know how it works
I knew effectively a cobweb it's forgetting all the bands let's just take
a twenty element halo type antenna so I've got one on the on the screen here
this is 20 18 15 12 and 10 but you see how there's two lights can nice view
that just scroll in a bit I mean it's just a hand-drawn one but there's a red
line and a black line here because if you made an aerial just like that out of
a single wire the impedance would be quite low by making it in a folded
configuration what happens is the impedance Oh got about five factor of
four because if you model this and I'll show you in a minute you'll get about 12
ohm and painted another nice way of doing
this because this would add a lot of wire up in the air wouldn't it another
way doing it would be two would be to use single wire with effectively a 1 to
4 transmission transformation Valon and not quite I've seen how they made it
I've never made one of them either so they're anyway so I thought do these a
couple of people have said oh you know all about this stuff Callum how does it
how does a cobweb compare to a dipole now I haven't done this but I've built
the to have I and we get rid of all this do I want to save changes that was the
g5 RV haha sound making 2 3 films of a lunch herbs I'm trying to get them lined
up and put in stock so when I'm in the office you think I'm in here what the
hell we doing oh yeah let's fire up at my antenna analyzer twice once there and
once there and what we'll do is we'll put we'll open up the dipole don't tell
me I didn't will have to quickly make a dipole cobweb there and we'll make a
dipole here X said give me a line from there to there that's that's probably
too long it is so we'll zoom these down to 5 meters and then we'll be done so I
actually thought I'd saved on but obviously I haven't and I'll do some
fine-tuning on my dipole we'll need to add a source in other words fit our
wrong end fit our coax to the middle there and I know that at five point two
meters with bare copper wire and minus five point two meters at 10 meters off
the ground we will end up with copper Walla
not a bad match about 1.45 to 100 I know my aerials as they say and this one here
we do there and now I'm cheating I've got an
impedance down here look at thirteen point eight ohms but I've got one point
two three and that's because I've told it I've actually got coax at 12 ohms
because that's actually we how it's made so I just briefly put a single element
together off part of the cobweb how it would look like because the rest of them
would come off at different angles wouldn't they and come around here and
stop and this would be the sort of twin feed do they call it all turns to be a
single line with a transformer ballon somewhere in here it's only we've
calculated - we wanted to know how they would perform in real life so I wouldn't
have thought these would be used in the main probably about 15 degrees elevation
so let's have a look so cobweb says three point two computer says four point
five so okay one point three apples and off the side here - one point two was
more there so it what's the real gain at the maximum at 10 meters say 30 degrees
seven 30 degrees five okay so what we're doing what the dipole is making up on
the side here the cobweb is is making up on but it's slightly less gain off the
edges if you know what I mean so I can look at the far field plot and see if we
can detect any weirdness going on so that's the cobweb and this will be
cobwebs on the left just not bad little Ariel is it really you see you probably
have to rotate that when you the dipole whereas the cobweb you could get away
with it what's it like at my baseline at five degrees so it's about the same
there as a vertical would be and it you're losing
off the power minus nine eight seven six maybe more than half the power off off
the edge but depends on the height as if you can get it up ten ten meters a lot
of people are putting these cobwebs up about eight remember you know just on
the chimney and no more you know in a UK house that would be a little bump here
so we're getting five there four point nine there five degrees so I've lost two
meters that so minus seven point six now and minus eleven
you need the height if that's 420 your remember this work at 1715 and so on the
higher up you go frequency the higher you are in terms of number of
wavelengths you are from the ground so once you're up even seventeen meters
would be pretty good and we could actually do a quick test couldn't we
just show me this what it's like at eighteen point one isn't it we're 0.15
or something so same aerial same height eight meters
but relatively we shouldn't be doing too bad yeah so we're better than the
vertical now look interesting isn't it so would I recommend a cobweb I might do
I think it'd be a great construction project I'd have a go at it chaps its I
honestly didn't think it would be accurate but I'm I'm convinced I said
dipole that's what it is almost omnidirectional make it happen
enjoy your aerials enjoy your rigs at fun when RF chaps
my name's Callum from das commander m0 mcx signing off
you
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