(Singing) I know my God has made the way for
me. I know my God has made the way for me.
ANNOUNCER: God is demonstrating His miraculous powers throughout
the earth. Today, on the Believer's Voice of Victory,
Kenneth Copeland and Dr. Morris Cerullo encourage all believers
to get ready for supernatural breakthrough for healing.
KENNETH: Hello, everybody. I'm Kenneth Copeland. Father,
we thank You for this broadcast today, one
more opportunity to proclaim that Jesus is alive. Jesus
is Lord, Jesus is the Savior, Jesus is the healer, Jesus
is the baptizer in the Holy Ghost, Jesus is our
Melchizedek and Lord of our prosperity, and He is coming
soon. Glory to God. Hallelujah. MORRIS: Hallelujah. KENNETH: We
are so thrilled and excited. MORRIS: Amen. KENNETH: And we
want you out there to get just as thrilled and excited as we
are. MORRIS: Glory. KENNETH: His healing power is right there for
you right now in the name of Jesus. And, Father, we give You
all the praise, all the glory-- MORRIS: Mm. KENNETH: --to the
wonderful name of Jesus. Amen. MORRIS: Hallelujah. KENNETH:
Join me again today in welcoming Dr. Morris Cerullo. Praise God.
MORRIS: What a wonderful delight-- KENNETH: M.C.--
MORRIS: --to be here with you. KENNETH: I tell you-- MORRIS:
I've been so blessed. KENNETH: Amen. I love you, sir. MORRIS:
Thank you. KENNETH: And I've enjoyed loving you for a long
time now. (Laughs) MORRIS: Thank you. KENNETH: Hallelujah. I
remember the first time I really ever got interested in what God
was really doing. MORRIS: Mm. KENNETH: I was raised in a
Christian home. I mean--and a strong Christian home. It wasn't
my mama's fault I turned out like I did. (Laughs) You know, I
tried my best to go to hell. She just wouldn't let me go. MORRIS:
Praise God. KENNETH: And she was a real prayer warrior. But when
I did obey God and I went to Oral Roberts University, and the
first day there, by miraculous-- MORRIS: Circumstance. KENNETH:
--arrangement of the Lord, Brother--Dr. Roberts hired me as
copilot on the airplane, which put me in the meetings. Because
I--you know, he couldn't go to a meeting without me. And then
right away, they--several--second or third
meeting, they assigned me to drive his car. So that's when he
and I began to be close friends. But during that time, I began to
realize that this guy named Cerullo had been out there the
same length of time that Oral Roberts had. MORRIS: Mm.
KENNETH: And there were signs and wonders and miracles in his
ministry. MORRIS: Mm. KENNETH: And I just kept hearing about
you. And of course, being around--being around Oral and
Bob DeWeese and all these guys-- MORRIS: Yes, yes. KENNETH:
--it--every so often, your name would come up. And they'd talk
about the meetings, you know, that you had-- MORRIS: Mm.
KENNETH: --and got me really interested. And then when I had
the opportunity--you--Carl said, "I want to see you." MORRIS: Mm.
KENNETH: "I want you to come see me." MORRIS: Yes. KENNETH: I
said, "Gloria, what do you think he wants with me?" (Laughs) She
said, "I don't know. Let's go find out." So we did. We came to
San Diego-- MORRIS: Yes. KENNETH: --and met you and fell
in love with you-- MORRIS: Thank you. KENNETH: --and Theresa. And
we have just been so blessed with your life and your ministry
and particularly when your book came out and all of those
different things over the years. Being associated with you has
inspired me and brought me to-- MORRIS: Thank you. KENNETH:
--higher places in the Lord. I just want you-- MORRIS: Thank
you so much. KENNETH: --to know that, and I wanted everybody to
know it. Praise God. Now, just in 2016--let me show you a
picture again--that was on Dr. Cerullo's leg. That's his leg
right there. That angry, incurable thing had brought him
to the point of death several times. It was just the mercy of
God that he didn't die. But then there's Jesus. MORRIS: Amen.
KENNETH: Whoo! Glory to God. MORRIS: Amen. KENNETH: And
healed him. And just put new skin and--and there now, not
even any--I want you to see this. Look at this now. Look. Do
you--look at him! Look at him! You see those Nike running shoes
he's got on? Glory. Play that again. Back that thing up and
play it again. I want to see it again. Now, this was--this was
just a few days-- MORRIS: Yeah. KENNETH: --after you'd been in
that other condition. MORRIS: That's right. And remember, I
was paralyzed-- KENNETH: Completely paralyzed-- MORRIS:
--in one leg-- KENNETH: --in that leg. MORRIS: --in the right
leg. KENNETH: Yeah. MORRIS: Completely paralyze--I was in a
wheelchair. I laid in a bed for months. KENNETH: And look at
you. (Laughs) Glory to God. Now then, I want us to look at
I Peter 2:24. MORRIS: Oh, yes. Amen. KENNETH: "Who his own
self--" It's talking about Jesus. MORRIS: Yes. KENNETH:
"--bare--" TOGETHER: "--our sins in his own body on the tree,
that we being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness:
by whose stripes ye were healed." MORRIS: "Were," yeah.
KENNETH: Now I'm going to ask you something. Is "were" future
tense? No. Is it present tense? No. It's past tense. MORRIS:
Yes. KENNETH: You were healed. When God raised Jesus from the
dead-- MORRIS: Oh, glory to God. KENNETH: --that healing became
available to whosoever will, because Jesus is available to,
"whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have
everlasting life." MORRIS: And you know, even stronger than--or
as strong as that, what was the purpose why God the Father sent
His Son? Remember, Jesus was born of God. KENNETH: Amen.
MORRIS: Now, why did He send Him? He sent Him here--as you so
capably preached the Word, He sent Him here to pay the price--
KENNETH: Amen. MORRIS: --for sin, for salvation, for healing.
That's why we can, 100 percent, claim it because-- KENNETH: Yes.
MORRIS: --He--I John 3:8, "For this purpose the Son of God was
made manifest--" KENNETH: Yes, sir. MORRIS: "--that he might
destroy--" He didn't come here to wound him. He came here to
destroy him. So Jesus destroyed-- TOGETHER: "--the
works of the devil." KENNETH: Yeah. MORRIS: And those works
are-- KENNETH: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. MORRIS: --sin. KENNETH:
Acts 10:38. MORRIS: Yeah. Right. KENNETH: Now, Peter is at
Cornelius' house, the Italian-- MORRIS: Yes. KENNETH: --soldier.
And Peter began to preach. In Verse 36, he said, "The word
which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by
Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all.)" Now, this is what Jesus
preached the whole time He was on the earth. He said, "The
Spirit of the Lord is upon me--" MORRIS: Amen. KENNETH: "--for he
has anointed me to preach. He's anointed me to preach the Gospel
to the poor; he sent me to heal the brokenhearted--" MORRIS:
Uh-huh. KENNETH: "--he sent me to preach deliverance to the
captives, to preach recovery of sight to the blind--" MORRIS:
Hallelujah. KENNETH: "--to set at liberty them that are
bruised, and to preach the acceptable year of the Lord,"
which was supernatural debt cancellation. MORRIS: Yes.
KENNETH: He not only wants you saved and healed, He don't even
want you in debt. Glory to God. MORRIS: Amen. KENNETH: Now,
Jesus is preaching--I mean, Paul--Peter's preaching this.
"That word, you know, which was published throughout all Judaea,
and began in Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
how--" Listen to me. "How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with
the Holy Ghost and power." That's healing power. MORRIS:
Mm. KENNETH: "Who went about doing good, and healing--"
TOGETHER: "--all--" KENNETH: "--that were oppressed of the
devil." MORRIS: All. All. All. KENNETH: And every one of them
was oppressed of the devil. MORRIS: Yes. KENNETH: They
weren't oppressed of God. MORRIS: No. KENNETH: They were
oppressed of the devil, and He healed them. MORRIS: Every one.
KENNETH: Yeah. Except those that wouldn't believe. "Why, Brother
Copeland, Jesus healed--" No. No, wait. No, no. MORRIS: Yeah.
KENNETH: No, no, He didn't. Just hang on, don't get mad at me.
Just hang on. Ha-ha-ha. You go back over to the 6th chapter of
the book of Mark, talking about at His own hometown-- MORRIS:
Mm. KENNETH: --right there in--when He went to preach at
home in Nazareth, they said, "What? This is--you know, this
is--" MORRIS: Carpenter's son. KENNETH: "--this is that
carpenter boy down there." MORRIS: Yeah. KENNETH: "We've
known Him. Why, we know His whole family. We--you know,
who's He think He is--" MORRIS: Mm. KENNETH: "--preaching all
this grace and all this stuff?" "And he could there do no mighty
work--" Didn't say He wouldn't, said He couldn't. MORRIS: Mm.
KENNETH: "--except he laid his hands on a few sick folks, and
healed them. And he marveled because of their unbelief."
MORRIS: Mm-hmm. KENNETH: Now get this. It's big. MORRIS: Yes.
KENNETH: "He went round about the villages, teaching." MORRIS:
Mm. KENNETH: "Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word
of God." MORRIS: Yeah. KENNETH: The cure for unbelief is
teaching. If you're--if you're listening right now, and you've
been having trouble believing this, just listen, because faith
is coming. Faith is coming. No such thing as faith that won't
come. MORRIS: No. KENNETH: But if you'll open your heart and
say, "Lord, I receive mine right now," it's there for you.
MORRIS: Yes. KENNETH: It's there for you. MORRIS: Absolutely.
KENNETH: And it's there for you right now. Isn't that wonderful
news? MORRIS: That is. Praise God. KENNETH: That's the reason
it's called "Gospel." MORRIS: Amen. (Both Laugh) KENNETH: And
you can be--you can be like Dr. Cerullo. You can jump up and run
around the room and get you some new running shoes. Praise God.
Now, I remember just--I'm talking about just a matter of
hours after the Lord healed him and raised him up. He still
looked kind of puny before your--before the--the miracle
was ongoing and just changed his entire countenance and
everything. He didn't wait until he felt all that much better and
all that. He just went and fired that airplane up and headed to
Brazil, brother. MORRIS: That's right. KENNETH: I mean, just
immediately, he went right back out on the road again. And all
85-year-old--years of him went right out back in the--right
back in the field again. And he sent me--he texted me this
little video. And I got so excited. He's standing there in
his jogging suit and talking about how God had healed him.
And I hollered at Gloria. I said, "Look at this! M.C.'s
hitting the road again!" (Laughs) We got so tickled, got
so thrilled, man. MORRIS: Amen. KENNETH: But that's what's
happening right there, and you can have your part of it, too.
MORRIS: Amen. KENNETH: This is something, isn't it? MORRIS:
Yes. It's real. It's real. It's not a figment of our
imagination. KENNETH: No, it isn't. MORRIS: It's not
psychological. It's not mind over matter. It's the same
spirit that raised up Jesus from the dead. KENNETH: Yes, it is.
MORRIS: It dwells in us. And as it does, it quickens our mortal
bodies by the same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead. You
know, I love those incredible words in Corinthians, "know ye
not?" And this is the problem. Most of the people lack the
knowledge. And it's like you said. You have to take the Word,
you have to stand on the Word, you have to confess the Word.
But don't we know that our bodies are temples-- KENNETH:
That's right. MORRIS: --of the Holy Spirit? KENNETH: The living
God. MORRIS: It's real. KENNETH: It's real. It is so real. The
great, great preacher, Smith Wigglesworth, oh, my-- MORRIS:
Mm. KENNETH: --that's a man of power. MORRIS: Yeah. KENNETH:
And he would get up every morning. First thing, he would
take communion. And then he'd go look in the mirror. He said,
"That man right there is full of the living God." MORRIS: Oh.
(Both Laugh) KENNETH: Isn't that marvelous? He'd look himself in
the eyes-- MORRIS: Yeah. KENNETH: --and speak the Word of
God over himself. MORRIS: And that's what God's people need to
do. They need to confess what God says they are instead of
what they think they are. KENNETH: What they feel like
they are. MORRIS: Yeah. KENNETH: What they look like they are, or
what somebody else told them what they were. MORRIS: Right.
KENNETH: It's what the Word says about them. MORRIS: Absolutely.
KENNETH: And the Word says we're victorious-- MORRIS: Amen.
KENNETH: --that we're champions. Amen. MORRIS: Amen. KENNETH:
Now, there's something else that Smith Wigglesworth did that will
change the life of any born-again believer. You
remember, in his story, he--he was born in Yorkshire, England.
MORRIS: Right, England. KENNETH: And back there then, there were
no child labor laws and so forth. And he went to work when
he was six years old, and he worked in the plumbing trade.
But the man got born again. And it got so on his heart, it was
so wonderful, that he determined he was going to win somebody to
the Lord every day. He's going to witness to somebody, some way
or other. And that was--that, really, was what he felt like
was his calling. And that's what he set out to do. And he did it.
He had witnessed to somebody that told one story about him,
that he just hadn't found anybody all day to talk to. And
there was a guy driving by in a cart--wagon, he ran up and
jumped on the seat beside him-- MORRIS: Ha-ha-ha. KENNETH: --and
witnessed to him and got him born again before sundown. He
got his man. But now, see, he had that in him. Every believer
ought to have that. MORRIS: You know, Kenneth, when I came out
of the Jewish Orthodox orphanage, I was 15 years of
age. And the woman that brought me the message in the orphanage
that we talked about, I went to live with her in her brother's
home. Now, that was in East Patterson. And Patterson was
where the church was, where I never missed a service, 15 years
of age. I was in every--I couldn't get enough of God.
KENNETH: Praise God. MORRIS: So I would hitchhike--I wouldn't
let anybody drive me home. I would hitchhike 15, 16 years of
age, so I could get in the car-- KENNETH: Yeah? MORRIS: --and
lead somebody to Jesus. (Kenneth Laughs) I led a Roman Catholic
priest one night to Jesus. KENNETH: Praise God. Hallelujah.
MORRIS: It's exactly what you're talking about. KENNETH: Yes.
It's--and look what it-- MORRIS: Yeah. KENNETH: --and there's a
confidence that comes from that. MORRIS: Yes. KENNETH: Most of
the people in the sound of our voice right now that stop, just
think about that, there's almost instantly a fear of rejection.
MORRIS: Mm. KENNETH: People are afraid to be--they're going to
be turned down. MORRIS: Yeah. KENNETH: I never have--one time,
I got--one time, I was turned down. But let me tell you how it
took place. I was holding a meeting in a casino in Las
Vegas. And the owner of the hotel had gotten born again. And
it was Wayne Cochran, the old rock-and-roll singer-- MORRIS:
Yeah. Yeah. KENNETH: --that had gotten saved, who was a friend
of mine. And he led--he played in that hotel for a long time.
Well, he went back and got the owner of the hotel born again.
Well, he came to Wayne. He said, "I've got to do something for
God, Wayne." He said, "My heart's on fire." He said, "Do
you think Brother Copeland would come here and hold a meeting?"
So Wayne called me. I said, "Are you kidding? I'm on my way."
(Laughs) So we just had a fabulous meeting in the theater
in that--in that casino. Well, one night, I'm walking through,
headed to the--to the meeting room. And the--I heard the Lord
say, "Witness to that couple walking towards you." And He
told me what to say to them. I said, "Okay." So I said, "Excuse
me, sir?" Very well-dressed people. I said, "I'm--I feel
like that I have something from--that the Lord, He would
have me to say to you, if that's all right. May I have permission
to speak?" He said, "Sure." So I told him. He said--well, he
didn't refuse me. He just said, "Okay. Thank you," and just
walked off. And, you know, I thought, "Well, that's kind of
different." And so--but before I could get away, here was a guy
standing there, (Slurring), leaning up against the wall. He
was so drunk. He said, "Hey. I heard what you said. Will you
pray for me?" I said, "Yeah, I'll pray--" M.C., he was so
drunk, he just--if he'd have let go of the wall, he'd have just
fallen on the floor. He said, (Slurring) "Let's go in here."
So we went in the men's room. He said, "Pray for me." So I laid
my hands on him and began to pray. Man, the power of God came
in there. And all of a sudden, he straightened up. And by the
time I got through praying, he was--he was stone cold sober.
MORRIS: Mm. KENNETH: And lifted both hands and began-- MORRIS:
Hallelujah. KENNETH: --to worship God. MORRIS: Hallelujah.
KENNETH: "My God, man," he said, "thank you. I'm a back-slid
Pentecostal preacher." MORRIS: Wow. KENNETH: The glory of God
got all over me right now. MORRIS: Yeah. KENNETH: Amen. So
see, I wasn't actually turned down. I was accepted. I just--I
just was talking to him through these other people. MORRIS: But
God was in control. That's the thing. KENNETH: Oh, that's the
key to the whole business. MORRIS: Yes. KENNETH: If you
will listen and speak to whomever He says speak to, I'm
telling you, miracles happen. MORRIS: Amen. KENNETH: The
street miracles are easier to get than the church miracles.
I've noticed that over the--over the years. I know you have, too.
MORRIS: Yes. KENNETH: Amen. MORRIS: There's a day that we're
living in. I call it "breakthrough." God wants to
give His people a supernatural breakthrough. It's when we
experience a breakthrough that we pass and cross over the line
from the natural into the supernatural. KENNETH: Oh, yes.
Amen. MORRIS: The word "breakthrough" --and, you know,
I've learned, when I was a little boy, when God was my
teacher and He taught me, He said, "Son, all truth is
parallel. Watch what happens in the natural world." KENNETH:
Mm-hmm. MORRIS: I saw technology. I saw everything in
the natural world advance like it never did before. But you
know what happened? It's like Edison. Edison invented light.
Okay? But he failed for 20 or 30 years of his life. Until one
day, he got a breakthrough, advanced knowledge, advanced
information. He broke through. It came to him. And when it did,
he got the secrets to what he needed to produce light.
KENNETH: My, my, my. MORRIS: Well, I believe that the church
is in the season of breakthrough. KENNETH: I do,
too. I know it with every fiber of my being. MORRIS: We're
getting advanced knowledge. We're crossing over. We're
getting information, spirit information, we never
experienced before. And that is giving us the ability to break
through the line of resistance. KENNETH: Amen. MORRIS: The line
of resistance, it holds us back. It's Satan, his principalities,
his powers, his spiritual wickednesses. But no more--
KENNETH: No more. MORRIS: --because we're getting the
information that we need. KENNETH: Let's take it up
tomorrow right here. MORRIS: Okay. KENNETH: I want you--God's
been dealing with you supernaturally over this. And as
a prophet of God, He's shown it to you. MORRIS: Yes.
KENNETH: And so let's start with this on
tomorrow's broadcast. MORRIS: Amen. Amen. KENNETH:
Dr. Cerullo and I will be back in just a moment.
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