IT TURNS OUT THAT SOME LEADERS IN THE GOP AND EVEN SOME
PHYSICIANS WHO VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP WANT TO FIGHT TOOTH AND
NAIL TO ENSURE THAT WE DO NOT COMPLETELY REPEAL OBAMACARE.
THAT IS INTERESTING CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT THESE ARE
INDIVIDUALS WHO EITHER SUPPORTED OR VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP SO
DID THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY WERE GETTING THEMSELVES INTO?
WILL GET TO THE POSITIONS IN A SECOND BUT BEFORE I TALK ABOUT
THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS WHO ARE FIGHTING TO KEEP OBAMACARE IN
PLACE I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT A LOT OF THESE PHYSICIANS DID
NOT THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS GOING TO GO AFTER OBAMACARE.
THEY THOUGHT HE WAS JUST CAMPAIGNING WITH THAT
PROMISE AND HE WAS ACTING LIKE ANY POLITICIAN WHAT AND
THAT HE WOULDN'T REALLY FOLLOW THROUGH ON SOME OF THE MORE
EXTREME POLICY IDEAS.
WELL, THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY SURPRISED NOW.
AMONG THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS WHO WANT TO PROTECT OBAMA
CARE, YOU HAVE JOHN K-6.
JOHN K SICK WAS AMONG THE MORE REASONABLE MEMBERS OF THE
GOP THAT WERE RUNNING IN THIS PAST ELECTION, AND HE
THINKS LOOK, THE EXPANSION OF MEDICARE HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL
TO PEOPLE IN MY STATE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT THAT.
THERE IS ALSO RICK SNYDER AND HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY:
HE IS ONE OF 16 REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS IN STATES THAT
HAVE EXPANDED MEDICAID IN THEIR STATES, EVEN THOUGH THE
SUPREME COURT RULED IT WASN'T MANDATORY UNDER OBAMACARE.
AND BY THE WAY, LET ME CLARIFY A MISTAKE I MADE EARLIER.
THIS IS ABOUT MEDICAID NOT MEDICARE.
THE EXPANSION OF MEDICAID WAS NOT ONLY POPULAR, IT SAVED A LOT
OF LIVES AND THERE HAVE BEEN CASES OF PEOPLE WHO, CNN
PROFILED THE STORY OF THIS WOMAN WHO HAD A BASEBALL SIZED TUMOR,
BRAIN TUMOR AND SHE WAS TOLD BY HER DOCTOR THAT THAT WAS THE
CASE AND SHE WAS LIKE I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THIS.
I HAVE TO WORK.
AND THEN THEY FOUND OUT THAT
SHE WOULD BE COVERED UNDER MEDICAID BECAUSE OF OBAMA
CARE AND THEY REMOVED THE TUMOR AND SHE IS DOING FINE NOW
THOUGHT THERE ALL THESE STORIES THROUGHOUT ALL OF THESE
STATES INCLUDING STATES THAT HAVE THESE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS.
ALSO BRIAN SANDOVAL OF NEVADA AND GARY HERBER OF UTAH
WANT TO PROTECT OBAMACARE.
HERE IS WHY IT IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS THAT CERTAIN
STATES DECIDED NOT TO EXPAND THEIR MEDICAID COVERAGE
BECAUSE IT WAS 100% FUNDED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THEY WERE GOING TO DO IT UNTIL 2020 AND THEN IN 2020,
THE PROJECTIONS WERE THAT THEY WOULD FUND STILL 90% OF IT.
LITERALLY, IF YOUR STATE DIDN'T EXPAND MEDICAID ENROLLMENT, THAT
IS ONLY BECAUSE YOUR CONGRESSPERSON OR GOVERNOR DID
NOT LIKE BARACK OBAMA OR DID NOT LIKE THAT POLICY AND WANTED TO
TRY TO GET IT TO FAIL.
THAT IS SO SELFISH.
IT
BLOWS MY MIND.
THAT ASIDE, YOU STILL LOOK AT THE IMPLICATION HERE WHICH
IS WITHIN OBAMACARE, THERE WAS A STATE CHOICE.
IS A STATE CHOICE AND NOW IT SEEMS LIKE THE SUPREME COURT
WAS LIKE WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT OPEN, BUT IT IS A STATE CHOICE.
THEIR DECISION TO DO WHAT THEY WILL WITH THAT MONEY.
THAT IS WHAT IS FRUSTRATING.
MY ARGUMENT HERE IS EVENTUALLY THERE MIGHT BE A REPEAL OR
REPLACE OF OBAMACARE AND IF THAT HAPPENS, MY BIGGEST FEAR IS
THE ABILITY TO DECLARE SOME SORT OF WEIRD VICTORY FOR DOING AND
REPLACING IT WAS SOMETHING THAT ENDS UP JUST BEING A BAD
SOLUTION IT REDUCES PREMIUMS FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON.
SO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO IS AS MUCH AS PEOPLE, THERE'S
GOING TO BE A LACK IN BETWEEN.
YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE YOUR NEW COVERAGE AND YOU ARE GOING
TO PAY LESS FOR A MONTH BUT HE IS GOING TO BE CRAPPY
COVERAGE THAT DOESN'T COVER A CATASTROPHIC BRAIN TUMOR.
I DO NOT BELIEVE FOR A SECOND, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I
DON'T BELIEVE FOR A SECOND THAT PREMIUMS ARE GOING TO DECREASE.
WHY WOULD THEY?
THINK ABOUT IT.
I HATED THE IDEA OF THE MANDATE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT
WAS WHAT I GUESS WHAT SOME OF THE MORE ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRATS
FELT WOULD BE A REPLACEMENT FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE OR PUBLIC OPTION
WOULD PROVIDE A MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE OPTION FOR
PEOPLE UNTIL OBAMA'S REASONING WAS IF YOU HAVE A FEDERAL
MANDATE AND YOU FORCE EVERYONE INCLUDING HEALTHY
INDIVIDUALS TO BUY INSURANCE, THAT WILL KEEP PREMIUMS LOW
BUT THERE WERE NO REAL COST CAPS SO IT WAS A HUGE HAND OUT TO
PRIVATE INDUSTRY AND THEY WERE LIKE WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT.
THAT'S PRECISELY WHY THEY ALLOWED FOR PRE-EXISTING
CONDITIONS EVEN THOUGH THEY FOUGHT TOOTH AND NAIL IN
THE END THEY WERE LIKE OKAY WHATEVER.
AND THEN WE SAW
LET ME FINISH MY POINT.
I JUST WANT TO GET TO THE PREMIUMS AND WHY DON'T
THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DECREASE.
YOU GET RID OF THE MANDATE WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
REPUBLICAN TAKE THE MOST AND I UNDERSTAND ANGER TOWARD THAT
BUT WHAT YOU THINK INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE GOING TO DO?
THEY DON'T HAVE HEALTHY PEOPLE PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM ANYMORE
BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A
TAX PENALTY AND THEN THERE ARE STILL INSURANCE COMPANIES
THAT ARE DOING IT FOR MONEY.
THEY'RE DOING IT FOR GREEDY REASONS OUT OF THE KINDNESS
OF THEIR OWN HEARTS OF THEIR NOT GOING TO BE LIKE OH, WE'RE
NOT MAKING AS MUCH MONEY BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE FORCED BY
OUR INSURANCE SO WE'RE JUST GOING UP THE PREMIUM OF THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE BUYING THE INSURANCE BECAUSE THEY
NEEDED AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT.
I THINK IT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE.
I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK THERE WAS MAN ONE MANDATE THAT THEY COULD It
FOR INDIVIDUALS IN NEED OR I MEAN INDIVIDUALS OVER A
CERTAIN AGE THAT REALLY NEED IT BECAUSE THEY OBVIOUSLY FORESAW
THAT THE INSURANCE PROVIDERS WOULD DO THAT WHEN THEY REALIZED
THE HEALTHY PEOPLE JUST SIMPLY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE INSURANCE.
NOT GOING TO SIGN ON AND PAY THE GOVERNMENT INSTEAD.
BUT THEN THERE IS SO MUCH SHADY SHOULD GOING ON WITH THAT TO
WHERE YOU SEE CERTAIN LIKE THE INSURANCE PROVIDER PULLING OUT
EIGHT NOW, PULLING OUT OF CERTAIN MARKETS CLAIMING
THAT THEY ARE SIMPLY NOT MAKING ENOUGH MONEY AND THEN
FURTHER INVESTIGATION SHOWING THAT THAT IS NOT THE CASE
AT ALL AND THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO BULLY THE GOVERNMENT.
THERE WERE BULLYING THE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY WANTED
TO EMERGE WITH A DIFFERENT HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY AND OF
COURSE BECAUSE OF ANTITRUST LAWS THEY WERE ALLOWED TO DO THAT
AND SO THEY WANTED TO SOCKET TO THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND THE
WAY THEY DID IT WAS THEY CLAIMED THAT THEY DROPPED OUT BECAUSE
OBAMACARE WAS TOO EXPENSIVE AND THEY COULDN'T AFFORD IT.
I AM ON THE OTHER END OF THAT WHERE I FEEL LIKE WHAT I AM
TERRIFIED BY AND BRETT KIND OF MENTION IS A LITTLE BIT IS
BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS SO ADAMANT ABOUT MAKING SURE OBAMACARE
FAILED, THESE SELFISH REPUBLICAN MOSTLY CONGRESSMEN, THEY
WANTED OBAMACARE TO FAIL SO THAT THEY COULD SAY LOOK,
DEMOCRATS SUCKED.
OBAMA SUCKED OUT THIS LEGACY IS POSTED.
JUST FOR THAT POLITICAL REASON.
MY FEAR IS THAT AFTER TIME IS PAST WE'RE GOING TO LOOK
BACK AT THIS AND GO SEE, OBVIOUSLY SOCIALIZED
MEDICINE COULD NEVER HAPPEN IN THE UNITED STATES.
AS SOON AS WE TRIED TO DO IT, IT DIDN'T WORK.
IT
DIDN'T FAIL BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT DIDN'T PLAN ENOUGH.
IT WAS ACTUALLY COST-EFFICIENT.
IT COSTS THE GOVERNMENT LESS.
IT WAS ACTUALLY MAKING
MONEY TECHNICALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.
THEY TRIED TO MAKE A FILM THEY STILL AREN'T EVENTUALLY THEY
WILL USE THIS SO THEY CAN GO BACK TO THE PRIVATE, JUST THE
PRIVATE INDUSTRY MARKETPLACES WHERE THEY FIGURE OUT THE
PRICING AND THEN WE'LL NEVER HAVE NATIONAL HEALTHCARE.
THIS IS A SAD THING, IT'S LIKE DEALING WITH A CHILD.
THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH TRUMP AND THIS LEAVES US SO THAT THE
STATE GOVERNORS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE UP A FIGHT AGAINST
TRUMP AND IT'S VERY STRANGE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE, LOOK
AT WHAT HE IS DOING WITH THE WALL.
THE WEIRD WAY THAT HE IS TRYING TO JUSTIFY, THE WAY MEXICO
CAN END UP PAYING FOR THE WALL IS IF WE LEVY ATTACKS AGAINST
IMPORTED GOODS THAT RAISES, WHICH EVENTUALLY WILL RAISE
THE PRICE SO IT IS ACTUALLY AMERICAN CONSUMERS PAYING FOR
THE WALL BUT IT'S HIS REAL Weird CALCULUS OF DECLARING VICTORY.
THAT IS WHAT HE DOES.
WITH THIS, MAYBE HE WILL JUST PEEL BACK OBAMACARE, PUT A
NEW STICKER ON THE SAME THING AND SAY THAT HE WON SOMEHOW.
WHO KNOWS.
WILSEY.
THIS IS WHAT IS SO FRUSTRATING FOR ME.
THAT IS THE BEST CASE SCENARIO.
HIM JUST ODDLY DECLARING VICTORY AND ALL THE SMART PEOPLE
WHO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON JUST GOING LIKE WAY TO GO,
BUDDY, YOU PULLED A FAST ONE ON EVERYONE.
AT LEAST IS STAYING THE SAME.
BUT THE SAD PART IS AS TIME PROGRESSES, ALL OF THE BEST
CASE SCENARIOS THAT I HAD GOING INTO, COMING OUT OF
ELECTION NIGHT, THE BEST CASE SCENARIO FOR ME AS HE JUST
BUILDS UP SOME INFRASTRUCTURE AND GET SOME DEALS FOR HIS
BUDDIES THAT'LL END UP PAYING BACK FOR TRUMP INDUSTRIES
THE LINE AND HE JUST LEAVES EVERYTHING ELSE ALONE.
THAT IS VERY CLEARLY NOT THE CASE HERE.
S WITHOUT TOO.
NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE.
FAVORITISM FOR TRUMP'S FRIENDS INSTEAD OF WHOEVER THE
OTHER PRESIDENT WAS GOING TO BE BUT NO, WE ARE REALLY
HEADING DOWN A DARK SUPER NATIONALISTIC PATH.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE HELL IS GOING TO AND UP.
SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PHYSICIANS THAT
VOTED FOR TRUMP.
UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN LOTS OF PHYSICIANS WHO HAD
ISSUES WITH OBAMACARE.
THEY HAVE BEEN VOCAL ABOUT IT.
HOWEVER, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PHYSICIANS WHO VOTED
FOR DONALD TRUMP AND DO NOT WANT HIM TO REPEAL OBAMACARE.
THESE ARE RESEARCHERS DAVID GRAHN DAY AND CRAIG PUBLIC
AND THEY FOUND THAT JUST 38% OF PRIMARY CARE DOCTORS WHO
VOTED FOR TRUMP WANT HIM TO REPEAL OBAMACARE.
THE REST DO NOT SUPPORT GETTING RID OF THE HEALTHCARE LAW
WHICH IS INTERESTING.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THIS GRAPH THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER.
I THINK IT IS SUPER HELPFUL.
BY THE WAY, THESE ARE RESEARCHERS FROM THE
UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA.
THESE ARE PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS WHO SUPPORT THE
REPEAL OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT 32% OF THEM ARE REPUBLICAN.
0% ARE DEMOCRAT, 15% OVERALL.
ONLY 15% OF PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN SUPPORT REPEALING
THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WHICH IS KIND OF FASCINATING
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU WOULD ALWAYS HEAR FROM DOCTORS IN
THE NEWS ABOUT HOW TERRIBLE OBAMACARE IS BECAUSE IT'S
A DOCTOR, HE OR SHE WOULD KNOW.
ONLY 15% OF THEM WANT TO REPEAL IT.
WHEN IT COMES TO TRUMP BOATERS, 38% AND WHEN IT COMES TO CLEANER
CLINTON VOTERS, 0% WANT TO APPEAL THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
YOU KNOW WHY, RIGHT?
A LOT OF DOCTORS THAT WERE CRITICIZING OBAMACARE WERE AS
TO TITIAN'S.
ANESTHESIOLOGIST?
KNOW, PEOPLE, PLASTIC SURGEONS FOR EXAMPLE BECAUSE
OBAMACARE HAD A VERY CONTROVERSIAL ASPECT TO IT WHERE
IT WAS GOING, THERE WOULD BE A PERFORMANCE-BASED PAYOUT SYSTEM
FOR DOCTORS IN THAT WAS CONTROVERSIAL AMONG DOCTORS THAT
DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT IMPROVES THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF
INDIVIDUALS SO THAT WAS CONTROVERSIAL AND I UNDERSTAND
WHY, BUT THAT IS WHY PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS WOULD PROBABLY
STILL BE LIKE WAIT A MINUTE, IF MORE PEOPLE ARE COVERED, MORE
PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO COME AND GET THE PREVENTATIVE CARE
THAT THEY NEED.
THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COVERAGE ARE NOT GOING TO
EMERGENCY ROOMS.
I KNOW WHERE MY CHECK IS COMING FROM, IT IS COMING FROM THE
INSURANCE PROVIDER WHICH PEOPLE HAVE NOW.
I THINK THAT IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
I DO WANT TO COMMENT VERY QUICKLY ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP AND THEY KNOWINGLY VOTED AGAINST
THEIR OWN INTERESTS WHICH I THINK IS SO FASCINATING.
YOU SEE IT WAS SO MANY TRUMP VOTERS AND YOU SEE WITH THESE
PHYSICIANS THAT THESE ARE DOCTORS, THEY ARE THE BEST AND
BRIGHTEST IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND IT'S NOT LIKE DONALD TRUMP
DIDN'T CONSTANTLY TALK ABOUT REPEALING OBAMACARE.
HE DID.
THERE WERE A FEW QUOTES FROM THESE PHYSICIANS IN THIS
PIECE AND THEY WERE JUST LIKE, WE DIDN'T THINK HE WAS
GOING TO DO IT.
THE OTHER ASPECT IS YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR AVERAGE DOCTOR
IS OF A HIGHER INCOME BRACKET, WHAT THEY ARE VOTING ON HIS
PART OF THEIR IDENTITY IS NOT THEIR EMPLOYMENT BUT RATHER
THE OTHER SIDE, TAX BREAK SO THEY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO
SO I THINK THAT FACTORS INTO A MORE AND THAT IS WHAT IS SO
FRUSTRATING BECAUSE AGAIN, GOING INTO THIS ELECTION WE HAVE
MORE INFORMATION THAN WE HAVE EVER HAD AT OUR FINGERTIPS,
WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON.
ALSO, ONE OTHER NO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING IN THIS
TOPIC YET BUT I DID EXTENSION COVERS ON ACA WHICH IS WHY I'M
GOING TO RATTLE THIS NUMBER OFF BUT
867-5309.
KNOW, I THINK THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE, THEY DIDN'T
APPRECIATE OBAMACARE, RIGHT?
IT WAS UNPOPULAR AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT
AS OBAMACARE.
YES 74% OF THE PEOPLE POLLED THE SAME PEOPLE APPRECIATED AND
WANTED ALL OF THE SPECIFIC MANDATES.
IT WAS ALL ABOUT THE NAME USED DURING THE POLLING.
IF THE POLLING SPECIFIED THE HEALTHCARE POLICY AS OBAMACARE.
26-YEAR-OLDS BEING ABLE TO BE UNDER THEIR PARENTS ASSURANCE.
THEY LOVE THE SPECIFIC PARTS OF OBAMACARE THAT THEY
WERE PULLED ON BUT ONCE YOU JUST CALL THE OBAMACARE, THEY
WOULD PULL LOWERS OUT INDUSTRIES ON THAT AS WELL.
OBAMACARE VERSUS THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT OUT
THEY WANT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE
PRICE GOING AFTER A CALLING AT THE PATIENT CARE INITIATIVE
AS OPPOSED TO WHAT IT WILL BE CALLED PRICE GOUGING.
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