>> Adrienne: ON THIS TUESDAY
NIGHT WE'RE FOLLOWING A NUMBER
OF STORIES THAT TOGETHER GIVE US
A SNAPSHOT OF CANADA'S EVER
PRESENT CHALLENGE -- JUSTICE FOR
THIS COUNTRY'S INDIGENOUS
PEOPLES.
A CBC NEWS INVESTIGATION RAISES
NEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE POLICE
WORK AROUND THE DEATH OF COLTEN
BOUSHIE.
>>> THE INQUIRY INTO MISSING AND
MURDERED INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND
GIRLS ASKS FOR MORE TIME.
>>> AND ONE FIRST NATION
CELEBRATES THE ARRIVAL OF
SOMETHING THAT MOST TAKE FOR
GRANTED -- CLEAN WATER.
WHAT DOES ALL OF THIS TELL US
ABOUT RACE AND RECONCILIATION?
>> Andrew: ALSO TONIGHT...
MORE WHITE HOUSE CHAOS AS
ANOTHER HIGH-PROFILE ADVISOR
ANNOUNCES HE'S LEAVING.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
(*)
>> Adrienne: WE BEGIN WITH NEW
WORRIES ABOUT HOW POLICE
INVESTIGATED THE KILLING OF
COLTEN BOUSHIE.
THE 22-YEAR-OLD CREE MAN WAS
SHOT DEAD ON A SASKATCHEWAN FARM
IN 2016 AND LAST MONTH A JURY
ACQUITTED GERALD STANLEY OF
SECOND-DEGREE MURDER.
WELL NOW A CBC NEWS
INVESTIGATION IS RAISING
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT POLICE DID
AND DID NOT DO.
THE RCMP CIVILIAN WATCHDOG IS
ALSO CONCERNED AND HAS NOW SAID
AN INDEPENDENT PROBE IS IN THE
PUBLIC INTEREST.
>> WE NEED TO BRING THIS ON TO
THE TABLE AND ADDRESS THIS WITH
THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT ABOUT
THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, THAT IT'S
NOT WORKING.
AND IT'S ONLY ONE-SIDED AND THAT
HAS TO ALSO CHANGE.
>> Adrienne: DURING THE
INVESTIGATION COLTEN BOUSHIE'S
UNCLE LODGED A COMPLAINT WITH
THE CIVILIAN REVIEW AND
COMPLAINTS COMMISSION AND THAT
FILE IS STILL OPEN, BUT THE
REVIEW ANNOUNCED TODAY IS
SEPARATE.
IT'S MEANT TO DETERMINE WHETHER
RCMP MEMBERS CONDUCTED A
REASONABLE INVESTIGATION INTO
THE DEATH OF MR. BOUSHIE AND
WHETHER THEIR CONDUCT AMOUNTED
TO DISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS
OF RACE OR PERCEIVED RACE.
THIS JUST IS ONE WEEK BEFORE THE
CROWN'S DEADLINE TO APPEAL THAT
NOT GUILTY VERDICT, BUT THAT'S
NOT ALL.
CBC NEWS ASKED INDEPENDENT
HOMICIDE INVESTIGATORS TO REVIEW
THE WORK DONE BY THE RCMP AND
THEY TOLD DAVID COMMON THAT
THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT ERRORS.
>> Reporter: HOMICIDE CASES
ARE BUILT AT THE CRIME SCENE, AN
ENVIRONMENT RICH WITH EVIDENCE,
POTENTIAL KEYS TO UNDERSTANDING
WHAT HAPPENED.
BUT DO SOMETHING WRONG AND THE
CASE MAY BE COMPROMISED.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOS FROM
THE SCENE, WHAT ARE THE
THINGS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE DONE
WHEN YOU ARRIVE AT A SCENE LIKE
THIS?
>> YOU PRESERVE THE SCENE.
>> Reporter: WE ASKED VETERAN
INVESTIGATOR MICHAEL DAVIS TO
REVIEW THE EVIDENCE
OUTLINED AT THE TRIAL FOLLOWING
THE RCMP INVESTIGATION INTO
COLTEN BOUSHIE'S DEATH.
>> THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TARP
PLACED OVER TOP OF THIS VEHICLE
PROTECTING IT FROM THE ELEMENTS.
>> Reporter: HE'S REFERRING TO
THIS PHOTO TAKEN JUST HOURS
AFTER THE SHOOTING AND IT SHOWS
A BLOOD-SOAKED VEHICLE, BUT THE
RCMP LEFT THE S.U.V. EXPOSED FOR
A DAY, THE DOOR WIDE OPEN, AND
THE VEHICLE WAS DRENCHED IN A
RAINSTORM.
BY THE TIME THAT FORENSICS TEAMS
ARRIVED THE BLOOD WAS WASHED
AWAY.
IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
ABSOLUTELY NOT.
FOR A BLOOD SPATTER EXPERT TO
COME AND TO LOOK AT SOMETHING
LIKE THIS WHAT WOULD BE THE
POINT?
IT'S BEEN CONTAMINATED AND THE
BLOOD PATTERN, EVERYTHING HAS
BEEN WASHED AWAY.
>> IF THIS AMOUNT OF BLOOD
EVIDENCE IS LOST ON THESE AREAS
WHAT IS LOST ON THE HEADREST AND
THE DOOR FRAME, YOU KNOW, THE
SEAT BACK AND THE STEERING
WHEEL...
>> Reporter: JOE SIMCOE IS A
BLOOD SPATTER EXPERT WITH 25
YEARS' EXPERIENCE.
HE SAYS THAT RELYING ON PHOTOS
ALONE IS NOT ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY
THESE PHOTOS.
>> I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE PHOTOGRAPH
TAKEN UPWARDS OF THE ROOF LINER
AND ESPECIALLY DEALING WITH A
GUNSHOT WOUND TO THE HEAD THAT
COULD BE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT
PHOTOGRAPH IN THE ENTIRE SERIES.
>> Reporter: BUT THE RCMP
EXPERT HAD ONLY THESE PHOTOS TO
RELY ON.
SHE WAS NOT SENT TO THE SCENE.
>> NEGLIGENT?
IT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
CASES LIKE THIS REALLY FRUSTRATE
ME BECAUSE OUR JOB AS
INVESTIGATORS IS TO SEEK OUT THE
TRUTH AND, I MEAN, THIS IS JUST
NOT ACCEPTABLE IN DOING A
PROPER -- A PROPER JOB AND
TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT
HAPPENED.
>> Reporter: ONCE POLICE
ARRIVED ON SCENE GERALD STANLEY
WAS ARRESTED, TAKEN TO THE
DETACHMENT AND PHOTOGRAPHED.
ONLY TO BE RELEASED FOR THE
NIGHT AND ASKED TO RETURN THE
NEXT DAY TO GIVE HIS STATEMENT.
WHAT ARE YOU LOSING OR RISKING
BY WAITING 18 HOURS TO TAKE A
STATEMENT?
>> YOU'RE WAITING FOR THE
SUSPECT TO GET TOGETHER WITH
OTHER PEOPLE AND CONCOCT A
STORY.
>> Reporter: WE DON'T KNOW
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS
CASE --
>> NO, NO.
>> Reporter: BUT THERE IS
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS
CASE --
>> NO, NO.
>> Reporter: BUT THERE IS
THAT --
>> THAT IS WH%
>> Reporter: WE DON'T KNOW
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS
CASE --
>> NO, NO.
>> Reporter: BUT THERE IS
THAT --
>> THAT IS WHY YOU
WANT TO NAIL THAT STATEMENT DOWN
AT THAT TIME.
>> Reporter: THERE'S ALSO NO
INDICATION THAT POLICE ASKED
GERALD STANLEY TO HAND OVER HIS
CLOTHES, SOMETHING THAT
INVESTIGATORS SAY SHOULD BE
STANDARD PRACTISE.
>> WE'RE DEALING WITH
POTENTIALLY MICRO BLOOD SPATTER
STAINS THAT ARE LESS THAN A
MILLIMETRE THAT MAY NOT BE
VISIBLE TO THE EYE THAT WOULD
HAVE TO GO TO A LAB FOR ANALYSIS
UNDER PROPER LIGHTING
TECHNIQUES.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SAID, WELL,
WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ON HIS
CLOTHING, AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE A
TRAINED EXPERT SHOULD BE SAYING,
NO, WE NEED TO SEIZE THAT
CLOTHING.
>> Reporter: THAT CLOTHING MAY
HAVE BEEN ESPECIALLY
IMPORTANT IN THIS CASE.
KEY TO GERALD STANLEY'S DEFENCE
WAS HIS CLAIM THAT THE GUNFIRED
ACCIDENTALLY AT EXTREMELY CLOSE
RANGE.
SO WHERE DID THE GUNSHOT RESIDUE
LAND?
IT WAS ON HIS HANDS AND FACE,
BUT NOT ON BOUSHIE'S CLOTHES.
SURPRISING, SAY EXPERTS, GIVEN
THE PURPORTED PROXIMITY.
AT CLOSE RANGE IT'S OFTEN ON
BOTH SHOOTER AND VICTIM.
AS FOR THE VEHICLE THAT BOUSHIE
WAS IN, IT WAS NEVER TESTED.
DO YOU THINK THAT THIS
INVESTIGATION WAS MANAGED WELL?
>> NO.
IT'S SLOPPY WORK AND OBVIOUSLY
THE RCMP NEEDS A LOT MORE
TRAINING.
>> IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THIS
WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT CASE FOR
CANADIAN JURISPRUDENCE AND
POTENTIALLY FOR RACE RELATIONS
IN THIS COUNTRY.
>> Reporter: CHRIS MURPHY
REPRESENTS THE
BOUSHIE FAMILY, AN EXPERIENCED
DEFENDER ACROSS A DOZEN MURDER
TRIALS.
HE'S BEEN CRITICAL FROM THE
BEGINNING.
>> WELL, MY HONESTLY HELD BELIEF
IS THAT THE RCMP IN SASKATCHEWAN
EITHER DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO
PROPERLY CONDUCT A MURDER
INVESTIGATION OR THAT IN THIS
CASE THAT THEY MADE THE DECISION
NOT TO DEDICATE SUFFICIENT
RESOURCES TO IT.
>> Adrienne: AND DAVID IS
JOINING US NOW.
DAVID, THIS IS QUITE A CRITIQUE.
ANY SENSE OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF
THIS?
>> Reporter: IT'S IMPOSSIBLE
TO KNOW WHETHER THIS WOULD HAVE
CHANGED THE OUTCOME AT TRIAL AND
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE FAMILY
OF COLTEN BOUSHIE IS WONDERING
AND WONDERING WHAT ROLE RACE MAY
HAVE PLAYED IN THIS
INVESTIGATION.
WE ACTUALLY MET WITH COLTEN
BOUSHIE'S MOTHER AND TOLD HER
THAT OUTSIDERS HAVE FOUND
FAILINGS IN THE RCMP'S
INVESTIGATION.
>> THAT TELLS ME THAT THE RCMP
DID A BOTCHED UP JOB.
THEY LOOKED BUT THEN THEY LOOKED
AWAY.
I'M SCARED FOR FUTURE.
I'M SCARED FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN.
THAT IF THE LAW COULD LOOK THE
OTHER WAY THAT THERE IS NO
FUTURE.
NOTHING.
WE'VE GOT NOTHING.
>> Reporter: WE DID ASK THE
RCMP ABOUT WHAT THEY DID AND
DIDN'T DO IN THIS INVESTIGATION
AND THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T
COMMENT WHILE AN APPEAL PERIOD
IS STILL PENDING.
BUT THESE ARE MANY OF THE SAME
QUESTIONS THAT THEY'LL POSSIBLY
BE ASKED BY THAT INDEPENDENT
WATCHDOG.
>> Adrienne: THE CIVILIAN
WATCHDOG, SO WHAT SORT OF POWERS
DOES IT ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO
ANYTHING?
>> Reporter: LIKE, DOES IT
HAVE ANY TEETH?
ULTIMATELY THE POWERS ARE
LIMITED.
THEY CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS
AND FINDINGS AND THEY REPORT
THAT TO GOVERNMENT AND IF THE
RCMP DOESN'T FOLLOW ALL OF THOSE
FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
THEN THEY HAVE TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES TO GOVERNMENT ABOUT
WHY THEY AREN'T.
>> Adrienne: OKAY, DAVID,
THANK YOU.
AN IMPORTANT STORY.
>>> AGAIN, THE DEADLINE FOR THE
CROWN TO MAKE AN APPEAL IS JUST
A WEEK AWAY AND WE'LL, OF
COURSE, FOLLOW THAT WATCHDOG
REVIEW CLOSELY AS IT GOES ON.
>> Andrew: INDEED.
MEANTIME, ADRIENNE, MORE TIME IS
PRECISELY WHAT THE
INQUIRY LOOKING INTO MISSING AND
MURDERED INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND
GIRLS IS ASKING FOR TONIGHT.
NOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO FINISH
ITS WORK BY THE END OF THIS YEAR
BUT NOW IT WANTS TWO MORE YEARS.
CATHERINE CULLEN LOOKS AT THE
REASONS WHY AND HOW MUCH IT
MIGHT COST.
>> THE DAY THAT JENNIFER WENT
MISSING OUR NIGHTMARE STARTED...
>> Reporter: MORE THAN 760
PEOPLE HAVE SHARED THEIR PAIN
AND GRIEF WITH THE INQUIRY.
NOW THOSE IN CHARGE WANT NEARLY
TWICE AS LONG AND UP TO TWICE
THE BUDGET TO FINISH THE JOB.
>> WE WANT TO DIG DEEP, GO RIGHT
DOWN TO THE ROOT CAUSES OF
SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION AND
RACISM AND IT TAKES TIME.
>> Reporter: SHE SAYS THAT
MANY MORE STILL WANT TO SHARE
THEIR EXPERIENCES AND THE
INQUIRY WANTS TO TAKE A CLOSER
LOOK AT ISSUES LIKE POLICING,
ADDICTIONS AND EVEN PORTRAYAL OF
INDIGENOUS WOMEN IN THE MEDIA.
>> WE DON'T WANT TO DO A
SUPERFICIAL JOB.
>> Reporter: ULTIMATELY IT'S
UP TO THE PRIME MINISTER TO
DECIDE WHETHER TO GIVE THEM ANY
EXTRA TIME OR MONEY.
CBC NEWS HAS OBTAINED A LETTER
IN WHICH THE INQUIRY ASKS FOR
ADDITIONAL FUNDING UP TO
$50 MILLION FOR A PROCESS THAT
HAS STRUGGLED WITH RESIGNATIONS
AND COMPLAINTS FROM FAMILIES.
>> IT'S BEEN A FRUSTRATING TIME,
THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION AND
THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY.
>> Reporter: FRANCINE JOE SAYS
THAT IN THE BEST CASE SCENARIO
THE INQUIRY WOULD BE DONE BY NOW
BUT SHE STILL SUPPORTS THE
EXTENSION.
>> SO LET'S TAKE A TIME TO DO
THE RIGHT JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE HAVE A SUCCESSFUL REPORT TO
HAVE THE SAFETY FOR OUR
INDIGENOUS WOMEN.
>> Reporter: SANDRA DELARONE
WORKS WITH
FAMILIES OF THE MISSING AND SHE
BELIEVES THAT ANY EXTENSION
NEEDS TO COME WITH AN APPROACHED
APPROACH.
>> FAMILIES ARE STILL NOT BEING
SUPPORTED AND THAT HAS LEFT, YOU
KNOW, A DEEPENING OF THE OPEN
TRAUMA.
>> Reporter: BUT TO THOSE WHO
SAY THAT THE INQUIRY IS TAKING
TOO MUCH TIME OR MONEY, SHE SAYS
THIS...
>> ONE MORE LIFE OF AN
INDIGENOUS WOMAN AND GIRL THAT
GOES MURDERED OR MISSING IS TOO
MUCH.
>> Reporter: POLITICALLY IT'S
HARD TO SEE HOW THE PRIME
MINISTER CAN DENY AN EXTENSION
TO A PROCESS THAT HE STARTED BUT
THE REAL CHALLENGE IS TURNING
THE FINAL REPORT INTO ACTION
THAT SAVES LIVES.
CATHERINE CULLEN, CBC NEWS,
OTTAWA.
>> Andrew: WE HAVE THE CHIEF
COMMISSIONER JOINING US RIGHT
NOW, MARION BULLER.
COMMISSIONER BULLER, FIRST OF
ALL, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE
TIME TO TALK TO US.
I HOPE THAT YOU CAN HELP US TO
UNDERSTAND
WITH ANOTHER TWO YEARS AND
ANOTHER $50 MILLION HOW IS IT
MATERIALLY THAT YOU THINK THAT
THE OUTCOME WILL BE DIFFERENT?
>> THE OUTCOME WILL BE DIFFERENT
PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE'LL BE ABLE
TO DO MORE DEPTH IN OUR
INVESTIGATION.
IT WILL ALLOW US ALSO TO DO MORE
RESEARCH AND IT WILL ALLOW US TO
HEAR FROM MORE PEOPLE.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO GREATER WORK
IN AREAS LIKE CHILD WELFARE,
HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS,
ADDICTIONS, CORONERS, IN
ADDITION TO WHAT WE HAD ALREADY
PLANNED IN THE WAY OF
INVESTIGATING POLICING, HUMAN
RIGHTS AND RACISM.
>> Andrew: BUT, I MEAN, THE
INQUIRY HAS ALREADY HEARD FROM
MORE THAN 760 WITNESSES.
I MEAN, IS THERE SOMETHING
SPECIFIC THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
LEARN OR TO UNCOVER THAT YOU
JUST HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE
TO?
>> YES.
WE'RE FINDING THAT THERE ARE
REGIONAL DIFFERENCES AND LOCAL
DIFFERENCES ALL ACROSS CANADA
BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM
FAMILIES SO FAR.
AND ALSO WE'RE FINDING THAT
FAMILIES ARE COMING UP WITH SOME
GREAT CONCRETE WORKABLE
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POSITIVE
CHANGE.
>> Andrew: IF YOU DON'T GET
THE EXTENSION THAT YOU'RE
LOOKING FOR OR, I MEAN,
POTENTIALLY YOU COULD GET A
ONE-YEAR EXTENSION OR A
SIX-MONTH EXTENSION OR NO
EXTENSION AT ALL, HOW SATISFYING
WILL THE CONCLUSION OF THIS
INQUIRY HAVE BEEN?
>> FOR ANYTHING LESS THAN AN
ADDITIONAL TWO YEARS A REPORT
AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS CAN ONLY
BE SUPERFICIAL BECAUSE WE WON'T
HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO
THE DEPTH OF WORK THAT IS
REQUIRED.
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING
VERY CLOSELY ANALYSING DIFFERENT
COMBINATIONS OF TIME AND THE
BEST COMBINATION OF DEPTH OF
WORK AND CLOSURE FOR FAMILIES
WAS TWO YEARS.
>> Andrew: OKAY, WE WILL LEAVE
THE CONVERSATION THERE.
BUT COMMISSIONER BULLER, THANK
YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> Andrew: TOMORROW THE
INQUIRY WILL BE IN HAPPY
VALLEY-GOOSE BAY, LABRADOR.
THERE'S BEEN 11 SUCH HEARINGS SO
FAR AND THERE'S A NUMBER THAT
UNDERLINES THE COMMISSION'S
CHALLENGE -- 630 PEOPLE ARE
STILL WAITING TO SHARE THEIR
STORIES.
>>> WELL, A GLASS OF WATER FROM
THE KITCHEN TAP IS NO BIG DEAL
FOR MOST CANADIANS BUT IN MANY
FIRST NATIONS COMMUNITIES IT IS
A HEALTH RISK.
ONTARIO'S SLAVE FALLS NATION WAS
ONE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES BUT NOW
AS CAMERON MacINTOSH SAW
FIRSTHAND THAT'S ALL CHANGED.
>> I WAS WONDERING WHY OUR
NUMBERS ARE SO LOW...
>> Reporter: PRESTON CRANE IS
JUST FINISHING HIS TRAINING.
IN THIS TYPE OF SCREEN...
>> Reporter: SOON HE'LL RUN
ALL OF THIS, THE CONTROLS, THE
PUMPS, THE FILTERS OF THE NEW
WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
PRODUCING CRYSTAL CLEAR WATER
FROM THE MURKY LAKE JUST
OUTSIDE.
THE FIRST CLEAN TAP WATER HERE
IN 14 YEARS.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU AND
YOUR FAMILY FIRST OF ALL TO HAVE
CLEAN WATER?
>> FOR HEALTH REASONS YOU DON'T
HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT YOUR BABY,
GIVING THEM A BATH AND THEN THEM
HAVING BEAVER FEVER.
>> Reporter: A PARASITE THAT
IS E-COLI THAT ARE ALSO DANGERS
HERE IN THE LAKE.
WHILE THE OLD SYSTEM WASN'T MUCH
BETTER THAN A KITCHEN WATER
FILTER.
AT $11 MILLION THIS CLEARS UP
ONE COMMUNITY BUT ACROSS THE
REST OF THE
COUNTRY THERE'S 81 OTHER
LONG-TERM BOIL WATER ADVISORIES
ON FIRST NATIONS WITH A
$1.8 BILLION PROMISE TO FIX THEM
ALL BY 2021.
THEY'RE NOT ALL COOKIE-CUTTER
FIXES, SLAVE FALL'S PLANT WAS
DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE
COMMUNITY.
THE MINISTER IN CHARGE ADMITS
THAT IT'S A TALL TASK.
>> WE ARE FIRM IN OUR PLAN TO
MAKE SURE THAT EVERY LONG-TERM
DRINKING WATER ADVISORY FOR
PUBLIC SYSTEMS LIKE THIS ON
RESERVES WILL BE LIFTED BY MARCH
2021.
>> THIS IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT,
YES, THERE'S STILL WORK TO DO.
>> Reporter: BUT ONTARIO
CHIEFS SAY THEY NEED HELP WITH
MAINTENANCE AND TRAINING AND
SETTING STANDARDS.
>> WE'LL NEED A SUSTAINED
COMMITMENT FROM THE GOVERNMENT,
NOT JUST TO BUILD THE SYSTEM AND
WALK AWAY.
>> Reporter: EXPERTS IN WATER
SAFETY SAY THAT IS KEY, WITHOUT
IT THIS IS ALL WASTED.
>> SOMETIMES IN THE PROCESS YOU
LOSE SIGHT OF THE LONG-TERM
SUSTAINABILITY THAT ENSURING
THAT THE SOLUTION LASTS FOR A
VERY LONG TIME.
>> Reporter: RIGHT NOW AT
SLAVE FALLS THE LONG-TERM
FUNDING IS STILL BEING WORKED
OUT.
THE GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT IT WILL
BE THERE AND FOR NOW CRANE IS
JUST FOCUSING ON RUNNING THAT
PLANT.
>> IT'S A LOT OF WEIGHT TO CARRY
BUT I THINK THAT I CAN DO IT.
>> Reporter: AFTER ALL, HE'S
FILLING EVERYONE'S CUP.
CAMERON MacINTOSH, CBC NEWS,
SLATE FALLS.
>> Andrew: SO GREAT NEWS FOR
SLATE FALLS RESIDENTS BUT WHAT
ABOUT ELSEWHERE?
AS CAM MENTIONED THERE ARE
CURRENTLY 81 LONG-TERM
DRINKING WATER ADVISORIES STILL
IN EFFECT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THEY AFFECT THE PUBLIC WATER
SYSTEMS ON RESERVES WHICH ARE
FINANCED BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
A WHOOPING 50 OF THOSE
ADVISORIES ARE IN ONTARIO.
JUST TWO IN ATLANTIC CANADA.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS
COMMITTED TO ENDING ALL 81
ADVISORIES BY MARCH 2021.
>> Adrienne: WE'LL BE TRACKING
THE PROGRESS MADE ON FIXING
THAT PROBLEM.
>>> NOW TO THE BIG STORY
OVERSEAS THAT IS DEVELOPING
TONIGHT A FORMER RUSSIAN DOUBLE
AGENT AND HIS DAUGHTER ARE IN
CRITICAL CONDITION AFTER AN
APPARENAPPARENT POISONING.
NAHLAH AYED IS DIGGING INTO THIS
STORY IN SARLS BURY, THE IDYLLIC
ENGLISH TOWN THAT IS NOW THE
CENTRE OF THE INTRIGUE.
>> Reporter: THE ENGLISH CITY
OF SALISBURY.
AFTER YEARS OF SPYING FOR THE
BRITISH AS REWARD IT'S HARD TO
BEAT A LIFE HERE.
SERGEI SKRIPAL LUCKY TO ESCAPE A
RUSSIAN PRISON IN A SPY SWAP,
RETIRED HERE FAR FROM PRYING
EYES.
EVEN A LONG-TIME NEIGHBOUR SAID
THEY'D NEVER EVEN SEEN HIM.
TODAY THOUGH SOME NEIGHBOURS
WERE RELUCTANT TO SPEAK AND
THERE'S NO HINT THAT SKRIPAL
PLANNED TO BE GONE FROM THE
QUIET CUL-DE-SAC FOR LONG.
>> IT'S PARTICULARLY SHOCKING
THAT AN INCIDENT LIKE THIS
HAPPENED ON A QUIET SUNDAY
AFTERNOON IN OUR CATHEDRAL CITY.
>> Reporter: THE JOURNEY INTO
THE CENTRE OF SALISBURY WOULD
HAVE TAKEN ONLY MINUTES.
SKRIPAL, JOINED BY HIS DAUGHTER,
YULIA, VISITING FROM RUSSIA.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN BUT
FATHER AND DAUGHTER PROBABLY
STOPPED IN THIS RESTAURANT NOW
SHUTTERED AS A PRECAUTION.
AT 3:47 p.m. A CAMERA THEN
PICKED THEM UP ON A STROLL.
THEY THEN MADE THEIR WAY TO A
NEARBY PARK WHERE AN EYEWITNESS
NOTICED THAT THEY'D COLLAPSED ON
A BENCH AFTER WHAT POLICE SAY
WAS A SUSPECTED EXPOSURE TO AN
UNKNOWN SUBSTANCE.
THE FOCUS FOR THEM RIGHT NOW IS
TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT THE
SUBSTANCE IS THAT WAS INVOLVED
IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THAT WILL
HELP DETERMINE WHETHER THIS
INDEED WAS AN ATTEMPTED MURDER.
AND, IF SO, COULD IT HAVE BEEN
THE WORK OF RUSSIA?
BECAUSE HE SPIED FOR BRITAIN,
MANY WOULD HAVE SEEN HIM AS A
TRAITOR LONG AFTER HE WAS THERE.
STILL...
>> SKRIPAL HAS BEEN LIVING
RELATIVELY QUIETLY SO IT'S HARD
TO SEE WHAT EXACTLY WOULD CAUSE
HIM TO BE A TARGET FOR THE
RUSSIAN STATE AT THIS POINT
UNLESS IT WAS SPECIFICALLY TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SEND A SPECIFIC
MESSAGE TO THE U.K.
>> Reporter: IN 2006, BRITAIN
SAW A STRIKINGLY SIMILAR CASE,
THAT OF ALEXANDER LITVINENKO,
POISONED BY RUSSIAN AGENTS.
HIS WIDOW MARINA LITVINENKO SAYS
THAT IN SUCH CASES THERE HAS TO
BE CONSEQUENCES.
>> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE
INVOLVED IN ALL OF THIS
NEFARIOUS BUSINESS, TO BE UNDER
SANCTIONS AND NOT ALLOWED TO GO
TO THE U.K. OR TO EUROPE.
>> Reporter: POLICE
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S AN UNUSUAL
CASE AND SERIOUS ENOUGH THAT THE
COUNTERTERRORISM POLICE ARE NOW
LEADING THE INVESTIGATION.
NAHLAH AYED, CBC NEWS,
SALISBURY, ENGLAND.
>> Adrienne: ONE OF THE
BIGGEST QUESTIONS THAT YOU HEARD
NAHLAH SAY IS WHAT WAS THAT
SUBSTANCE THAT MADE THE RUSSIAN
SPY AND HIS DAUGHTER AND TWO
FIRST RESPONDERS SICK?
SOME SUGGEST THAT IT'S THE
SYNTHETIC OPIATE
FENTANYL OR CARFENTANIL WERE
USED, POSSIBLY WEAPONIZED
VERSIONS, MAYBE IN AN AEROSOL
SPRAY.
IT HAS NEVER REALLY BEEN
CONFIRMED WHAT
THE RUSSIAN SPECIAL FORCES USED
IN 2002 WHEN THEY STORMED A
THEATRE WHERE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE
HAD BEEN HELD HOSTAGE.
THE FORCES HAD PUMPED A CHEMICAL
AGENT INTO THE THEATRE THAT
SEEMED TO PUT SOME PEOPLE TO
SLEEP BUT ENDED UP KILLING MANY.
EVIDENCE FROM SURVIVORS SUGGEST
THAT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN
CARFENTANIL AND RUSSIANS ARE
SUSPECTED OF USING OTHER POISONS
IF PREVIOUS ATTACKS.
YOU HEARD NAHLAH MENTION THE
DEATH
OF ALEXANDER LITVINENKO,
POISONED WITH POLONIUM 210, AND
TCDD IS THE TOXIN WHICH
DISFIGURED A UKRAINIAN
POLITICIAN VIKTOR YUSHCHENKO IN
2004 AND BACK IN 1978, THEY USED
A
DEVICE HIDDEN IN AN UMBRELLA TO
INJECT HIM WITH A DEADLY
CHEMICAL RICIN AS HE WAITED FOR
A LONDON BUS.
>> Andrew: HERE'S A LOOK AT
SOME OF THE OTHER STORIES
WE'RE WORKING ON
TONIGHT FOR "THE NATIONAL"...
>>> DONALD TRUMP'S CHIEF
ECONOMIC ADVISOR IS STEPPING
DOWN OVER THE PLAN TO SLAP
TARIFFS ON STEEL AND ALUMINUM.
COULD THAT BE A GOOD SIGN FOR
CANADA?
>> Adrienne: AND THE CREATIVE
TECH VANCOUVER IS USING TO HOUSE
THE HOMELESS AND WHY SOME
ALREADY WANT IT GONE.
>> FROM OUT IN THE GUTTER TO
THIS.
I'M TELLING YA, IT'S THE MIRACLE
OF MY LIFE.
SORRY, I MIGHT CRY.
>> THERE'S LOTS OF PLACES THAT
THESE FACILITIES COULD BE BUILT
AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE BUILT
>> Andrew: DONALD TRUMP'S
CALLS FOR NEW TARIFFS HAVE SENT
ANOTHER KEY STAFFER THROUGH THE
WHITE HOUSE'S REVOLVING DOOR.
GARY COHN IS OUT, RESIGNING
AFTER LESS THAN 14 MONTHS AS
DONALD TRUMP'S TOP ECONOMIC
ADVISOR.
AS KATE SIMPSON SHOWS US IT'S
ALL PART OF A POTENTIALLY
ESCALATING TRADE CONFLICT AND
NOW CANADA HAS SOME DECISIONS TO
MAKE.
>> Reporter: GARY COHN IS THE
FIRST CASUALTY OF THE THREATENED
TRADE WAR.
HE QUIT TODAY AS DONALD TRUMP'S
TOP ECONOMIC ADVISOR AFTER
CLASHING WITH THE PRESIDENT OVER
THE PLAN TO IMPOSE TARIFFS ON
STEEL AND ALUMINUM.
TRUMP HEARD A SIMILAR SENTIMENT
FROM A VISITING FOREIGN LEADER.
>> INCREASED TARIFFS WILL HURT
US ALL IN THE LONG RUN AND I
SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF THE
EUROPEAN UNION TO ACHIEVE TRADE
WITH FEWER OBSTACLES AND AS FEW
AS POSSIBLE.
>> Reporter: BUT TRUMP WASN'T
SWAYED.
>> President Donald Trump:
WE'LL DO IT IN A VERY LOVING
WAY, IT WILL BE A LOVING, LOVING
WAY.
>> Reporter: WHILE CANADA ALSO
OPPOSES THE PLAN IT WILL NOT BE
MAKING ANY PUBLIC THREATS OF
RETALIATION AGAINST THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION.
>> YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T RESPOND
TO THIS WITH NEEDLESS BLUSTER.
YOU TRY AND KEEP THE CHANNELS OF
COMMUNICATION OPEN SO THAT YOU
CAN LIVE TO FIGHT AGAIN ANOTHER
DAY.
>> Reporter: SOURCES TELL CBC
NEWS THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL
FOCUS ON QUIETLY PUSHING
AMERICAN LAWMAKERS TO EXEMPT
CANADA FROM ANY NEW TARIFFS, BUT
ONE OF THE SOURCES ALSO SAYS
THAT IF THAT DOESN'T WORK THAT
OTTAWA'S REACTION WILL BE SWIFT.
WHAT AREA SHOULD CANADA TARGET
IF CANADA DOES DECIDE TO LASH
OUT IF CANADA IS NOT EXEMPT?
>> AGRICULTURE.
>> Reporter: THE AMERICAN
FARMBELT COULD BE ONE PLACE
WHERE CANADA STRIKES BACK,
TARGETED MEASURES HURTING RURAL
DISTRICTS ARE SEEN AS A
REASONABLE RESPONSE BY
OBSERVERS.
>> THEY'LL LOOK AT AGRICULTURAL
DISTRICTS AND THEY'LL LOOK AT
HIGH PRODUCTION THOSE CORN SYRUP
AND THEY'LL LOOK AT
GRAIN AND THEY'LL LOOK AT DAIRY
PRODUCTS.
>> Reporter: BUT THE CANADIAN
GOVERNMENT HOPES THAT IT DOESN'T
GET TO THAT POINT.
KATIE SIMPSON, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.
>> Adrienne: STILL AHEAD ON
"THE NATIONAL"... MORE
COMPETITION FROM SOUTH OF THE
BORDER.
WHY THE ICE WINE INDUSTRY IS
ACTUALLY HEATING UP.
>> Reporter: WE THINK OF ICE
WINE AS CANADIAN.
>> Andrew: TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL," WE LEARNED THAT
DELLEN MILLARD WILL BE TRIED BY
A JUDGE ALONE THIS MAY FOR THE
ALLEGED MURDER OF HIS FATHER.
ONTARIO'S ATTORNEY GENERAL
AGREED THAT IT WOULD BE
DIFFICULT TO FIND IMPARTIAL
JURORS GIVEN MILLARD'S OTHER TWO
HIGH-PROFILE MURDER CONVICTIONS.
FOR THOSE HE'S ALREADY SERVING
CONSECUTIVE LIFE SENTENCES.
>>> AN EDMONTON MAN PLEADED
GUILTY TODAY TO TERRORISM
CHARGES IN THE U.S.
SHARIF WAS ACCUSED OF HELPING A
GROUP OF TUNISIAN JIHADDISTS
BELIEVED TO BE BEHIND AN ATTACK
IN IRAQ THAT KILLED FIVE
AMERICAN SOLDIERS.
AS PART OF HIS PLEA DEAL THAT
STILL NEEDS COURT APPROVAL HE
FACES A 26-YEAR PRISON TERM.
>>> NEW NUMBERS TODAY SHOW THAT
THE GROWING TOLL OF THE OPIOID
CRISIS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA.
125 PEOPLE, MOSTLY MEN, DIED OF
SUSPECTED ILLICIT DRUG OVERDOSES
IN JANUARY, THAT'S UP 25% FROM
THE PREVIOUS MONTH.
LAST YEAR A RECORD 1436 PEOPLE
DIED OF A SUSPECTED OVERDOSE IN
B.C.
>>> A BATTLE OF VALUES HAS
ERUPTED IN ONE OF VANCOUVER'S
OLDEST NEIGHBOURHOODS.
ON ONE SIDE ARE SUPPORTERS OF A
BOLD NEW PROJECT USING
STATE-OF-THE-ART TECHNOLOGY TO
GIVE HOMES TO HOMELESS PEOPLE.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, ANGRY LOCALS
WORRIED ABOUT POSSIBLE CRIME AND
DRUG USE.
BRIAR STEWART GIVES US A
FIRSTHAND LOOK AT WHAT THE TWO
SIDES ARE FIGHTING OVER.
>> Reporter: INSIDE OF THIS
SMALL APARTMENT, JERSEY RELISHES
OF PUTTING AWAY
CLOTHES, AFTER BEING HOMELESS ON
AND OFF FOR OVER 25 YEARS.
>> I DON'T HAVE A CAR, I DON'T
HAVE THE MONEY, I STAY ON THE
STREETS.
>> Reporter: A FLOOR BELOW
THERE ARE OTHER TENANTS SETTLING
INTO THEIR NEW SURROUNDINGS.
>> FROM OUT THERE IN THE GUTTER
TO THIS... I'M TELLING YA IT'S A
MIRACLE OF MY LIFE.
SORRY, I MIGHT CRY, I'M JUST A
LITTLE SENTIMENTAL.
>> Reporter: BUT NOT EVERYONE
WHO IS OFFERED ONE OF THESE 78
UNITS IN THE VANCOUVER
NEIGHBOURHOOD EAGERLY ACCEPTED.
>> AT LEAST FIVE TURNED DOWN
LIVING IN THESE UNITS BECAUSE
THEY WERE AFRAID OF PROTESTS AND
THE OPPOSITION AND THEY WEREN'T
SURE IF THEY WERE GOING TO BE
SAFE.
>> Reporter: PROTESTS BEGAN AS
SOON AS THIS PROJECT WAS
ANNOUNCED LAST YEAR.
RESIDENTS WORRIED ABOUT TENANTS
WITH ADDICTIONS AND CRIMINAL
RECORDS WENT TO COURT ARGUING
THEY WEREN'T CONSULTED ENOUGH
AND THAT THE BUILDING ARE ACROSS
FROM AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
>> THERE'S LOTS OF PLACES THAT
THESE FACILITIES COULD BE BUILT
AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE BUILT
SO CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL.
>> Reporter: BUT IT WAS, AND
MORE BUILDINGS WILL FOLLOW IN
OTHER COMMUNITIES.
THIS IS THE FIRST OF SEVERAL
MODULAR HOUSING PROJECTS THAT
WILL BE BUILT IN B.C. OVER THE
NEXT TWO YEARS.
THE GOAL IS TO BUILD 2,000
APARTMENTS FOR THE HOMELESS.
THESE BUILDINGS ARE BEING
CONSTRUCTED ON VACANT LAND AND
THEY CAN BE DISASSEMBLED AND
MOVED IN THE FUTURE.
AT THESE BUILDINGS AT LEAST TWO
STAFF MEMBERS ARE ALWAYS ON HAND
TO OFFER SUPPORT TO THE
RESIDENTS.
>> WE'VE HAD DONATIONS FROM THE
COMMUNITY AND THERE'S FOOD IN
EACH OF THE CUPBOARDS HERE.
>> Reporter: THERE'S BEEN SOME
FROM SOME THE COMMUNITY WHO
PUBLICLY WELCOMED THE NEW
NEIGHBOURS.
STUDENTS AND OTHERS PUT TOGETHER
GIFT BAGS WITH HANDWRITTEN
NOTES.
ISHMAM BHUIYAN JOINED A STUDENT
GROUP TO HELP TO WELCOME THEM.
>> YOU DO NOT HAVE TO MEET
CRITERIA TO LIVE HERE.
>> Reporter: BUT TENSION
REMAINS.
THESE SIGNS WERE FOUND STAKED IN
THE GROUND AT SOME OF THE
BUILDINGS AFTER SOME TENANT HIS
ALREADY MOVED IN.
AND TODAY A NEIGHBOUR FLAGGED US
DOWN TO TELL US WHY HE WON'T LET
HIS 14-YEAR-OLD SON WALK TO
SCHOOL ANYMORE.
>> EVEN IF I'M WORKING I HAVE TO
TAKE SOME TIME OFF AND TAKE MY
SON TO SCHOOL.
>> Reporter: BECAUSE YOU DON'T
WANT HIM WALKING DOWN THIS
STREET BECAUSE OF THIS PROJECT?
>> YEAH, YEAH.
>> HERE WE GO, I GOT A STOVE,
MAN.
>> Reporter: SHAWN WALTERS
USED TO LIVE ALONE IN A TENT.
HE'S TRYING TO PUT HIMSELF IN
HIS NEW NEIGHBOURS' SHOES.
>> IF I WAS KIND OF SHELTERED IN
MY LIFE AND I HAD KIDS I THINK
THAT I'D BE THE SAME WAY.
WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ARE YOU
PUTTING ACROSS FROM MY
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL?
I THINK THAT I WOULD REACT THE
SAME WAY TOO BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S
UP NOW AND I THINK THAT EVERYONE
WILL BE FINE WITH IT IN THE LONG
RUN.
>> Reporter: THAT'S WHAT THE
OFFICIALS ARE HOPING FOR.
THEY NEED THIS HOUSING PROJECT
TO SUCCEED --
>> COME ON...
>> Reporter: AND TO BE A MODEL
FOR THOSE OTHER SITES THAT ARE
NOW IN THE WORKS.
BRIAR STEWART, CBC NEWS,
VANCOUVER.
>> Andrew: THERE'S A PUSH TO
USE LOW-COST MODULAR TECHNOLOGY
TO HELP HOMELESS PEOPLE.
NOT JUST IN B.C.
DESIGNERS IN NEW YORK HAVE A
PITCH TO BUILD HOUSING PODS ON
THE SIDES OF EXISTING BUILDINGS.
SAN FRANCISCO HOPES TO BUILD A
WHOLE MODULAR FACTORY BUT ACROSS
THE ATLANTIC THEY'RE ALREADY
WELL UNDERWAY.
THIS COLOURFUL COLLECTION OF
BLOCKS IN SOUTH LONDON IS CALLED
"PLACE," 24 PREFABRICATED UNITS
ASSEMBLED IN 2016 TO SERVE AS
TEMPORARY HOUSING FOR THE
HOMELESS, TEMPORARY BECAUSE THE
CITY IS REDEVELOPING THE LAND
THERE IN A COUPLE YEARS BUT THIS
IS WHERE THE GENIUS OF THE
DESIGN COMES IN.
"PLACE" CAN BE TAKEN APART AND
REASSEMBLED UP TO FIVE TIMES AT
A
RELATIVELY LOW COST.
MEAN MILE DUBLIN HAS ITSELF OWN
MODULAR
PROJECT IN 2016, IT CALLS FOR
DOZENS OF STACKABLE PREFAB UNITS
AND SOME HAVE ALREADY BEEN BUILT
AND THE REST SHOULD BE FINISHED
THIS YEAR.
>>> NOW, OF COURSE, IT WILL TAKE
TIME BEFORE WE KNOW WHETHER
VANCOUVER'S MODULAR HOUSING
PROGRAMME WILL WORK BUT THERE'S
EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT
PROPERLY HOUSING THE HOMELESS IS
SIMPLY THE BETTER OPTION.
NOT ONLY SAFER BUT CHEAPER TOO,
ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE LIVING WITH
MENTAL ILLNESS.
A 2014 STUDY BY THE MENTAL
HEALTH COMMISSION LOOKED AT THE
COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH
HOMELESSNESS IN FIVE CANADIAN
CITIES AND WE'RE TALKING
VANCOUVER, WINNIPEG, TORONTO,
MONTREAL AND MONCTON, NEW
BRUNSWICK.
RESEARCHERS FOUND THAT FOR EVERY
$10 SPENT ON FIXED HOUSING THE
PUBLIC SAVED ALMOST $22 ON OTHER
SERVICES LIKE EMERGENCY
SHELTERS, HOSPITAL VISITS AND
POLICE CALLS.
AND CONSIDER THIS -- THOSE VERY
CITIES SPEND ON AVERAGE ALMOST
$50,000 PER YEAR PER HOMELESS
PERSON WITH A MENTAL ILLNESS.
ON ALL OF THOSE SERVICES THAT
THAT PERSON MIGHT NEED.
>>> WELL, A CLARIFICATION ON A
STORY THAT WE TOLD YOU ABOUT
LAST WEEK ON "THE NATIONAL"... A
CHURCH IN PENNSYLVANIA THAT HELD
A CEREMONY TO CELEBRATE
ASSAULT-STYLE WEAPONS.
NOW THE CEREMONY WAS HELD BY THE
WORLD PEACE AND UNIFICATION
SANCTUARY WHICH THE UNIFICATION
CHURCH SAYS IS A SEPARATE
AND AUTONOMOUS ORGINISATION.
>> Adrienne: TINY PARKER CURRY
IS ONCE AGAIN MAKING
INTERNATIONAL HEADLINES.
THIS PHOTO OF THE 2-YEAR-OLD
WENT VIRAL LAST WEEK.
SHE WAS APPARENTLY SO FASCINATED
BY
MICHELLE OBAMA'S OFFICIAL
PORTRAIT THAT HER MOTHER
COULDN'T TEAR HER AWAY.
WELL IT TURNS OUT THAT
THE FORMER FIRST LADY IS A FAN
OF PARKER'S TOO BECAUSE TODAY
THE PAIR GOT TO MEET IN PERSON.
(*)
* SHAKE IT OFF
* SHAKE IT OFF
>> Adrienne: AND IT LOOKS LIKE
THEY HIT IT OFF.
AFTER LITTLE PARKER PAID A VISIT
TO
MICHELLE OBAMA'S WASHINGTON
OFFICE THE FORMER FIRST LADY
POSTED ON INSTAGRAM, I'M SO GLAD
THAT I THE CHANCE TO MEET YOU
TODAY AND FOR THE DANCE PARTY.
KEEP ON DREAMING BIG FOR
YOURSELF AND MAYBE ONE DAY I'LL
PROUDLY LOOK UP AT A PORTRAIT OF
YOU.
ACCORDING TO HER MOM, PARKER
THOUGHT THAT OBAMA WAS A QUEEN,
SOMETHING THAT SHE WANTS TO BE
WHEN SHE GROWS UP TOO.
>> Adrienne: DO NOT LET THE
KITSCHY DECOR AND THE BIG SMILES
FOOL YOU BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE
SEEING HERE IS AN HISTORIC
DINNER.
NORTH KOREAN LEADER KIM
JONG-un SHARING A
TABLE WITH A DELEGATION FROM THE
SOUTH, INCLUDING SOUTH KOREA'S
NATIONAL SECURITY CHIEF.
THIS IS BELIEVED TO BE THE VERY
FIRST TIME THAT KIM HAS SPOKEN
FACE-TO-FACE WITH OFFICIALS FROM
THE SOUTH SINCE TAKING POWER IN
2011.
NOW KIM HAD A MESSAGE FOR THE
UNITED STATES AS WELL, HE IS
READY TO NEGOTIATE.
HE SAYS HE'S EVEN WILLING TO
GIVE UP HIS NUCLEAR WEAPONS IF
NORTH KOREA'S SECURITY IS
GUARANTEED.
IT WAS A STUNNING DEVELOPMENT
AND AS KEITH BOAG TELLS US HE
GOT A SOMEWHAT SURPRISING WHITE
HOUSE REACTION.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: LIKE THEY WERE
THE OLDEST OF FRIENDS, NORTH
KOREA'S KIM JONG-un WELCOMED
THE ENVOYS FROM SOUTH KOREA, A
COUNTRY BORN OUT OF THEIR WAR
DECADES AGO AND WITH WHICH IT
HAS NEVER MADE PEACE.
THEIR LONG FROZEN CONFLICT IS AT
THE HEART OF GLOBAL NERVOUSNESS
ABOUT KIM'S NEW NUCLEAR ARMS
PROGRAMME AND IT WAS THE
BACKDROP TO THESE FIRST STEPS
TOWARDS BEING BETTER NEIGHBOURS.
NOW FINALLY KIM SEEMS READY TO
PUT HIS WEAPONS ON THE TABLE AND
BARGAIN.
OR IS HE?
>> ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WE HAVE
TO DO SOMETHING.
>> Reporter: THE PRESIDENT'S
EMPHASIS ON "ONE WAY OR THE
OTHER" IS MEANT TO SHOW A
RESOLVE TO SEE NORTH KOREA
WITHOUT NUCLEAR WEAPONS, EITHER
THROUGH DIPLOMACY OR FORCE.
HE WAS UNCHARACTERISTICALLY
CAREFUL TO AVOID RAISING
THE STAKES.
>> President Donald Trump: AND
THE STATEMENTS COMING OUT OF
SOUTH KOREA AND NORTH KOREA HAVE
BEEN VERY POSITIVE.
THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THING FOR
THE WORLD -- A GREAT THING FOR
THE WORLD -- SO WE'LL SEE HOW IT
ALL COMES ABOUT.
>> MAKE THIS IS A BREAKTHROUGH,
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT.
>> Reporter: TRUMP'S DIRECTOR
OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE IN A
NOT-BORN-YESTERDAY MOOD REMINDED
LAWMAKERS THAT IT ISN'T THE
FIRST TIME THAT NORTH KOREA HAS
DROPPED HINTS THAT IT COULD BE
TALKED OUT OF ITS NUCLEAR
AMBITIONS.
ONE REASON TO NOT BELIEVE IT --
>> HE VIEWS POSSESSION OF
NUCLEAR WEAPONS AS ESSENTIAL TO
HIS WELL-BEING AND THE
WELL-BEING OF HIS NATION.
>> Reporter: AND EXPERIENCE
WITH KIM'S FATHER AND
GRANDFATHER HAS TAUGHT THAT
NORTH KOREA DOES NOT FEEL BOUND
BY ITS BARGAINS.
>> ALL EFFORTS IN THE PAST HAVE
FAILED AND IT'S SIMPLY BOUGHT
NORTH KOREA TIME TO ACHIEVE WHAT
THEY WANT TO ACHIEVE.
>> Reporter: BUT THE FACT OF
KIM'S MISSILES AND WARHEADS IS A
NEW REALITY.
HE IS NO LONGER TRYING TO GET
THE WEAPONS, HE HAS THE WEAPONS
AND HIS WILLINGNESS TO GIVE THEM
UP IS LIKELY EXACTLY THE SAME AS
THE
U.S.' WILLINGNESS TO TAKE OUT
THE 25,000 TROOPS STANDING GUARD
AGAINST KIM, NOT GREAT.
BUT KNOWING THIS THE WHITE HOUSE
SAYS THAT THEY LOOK FORWARD TO
TAKING THE NEXT DIPLOMATIC STEPS
WITH ITS ALLIES.
AND TODAY THE PRESIDENT DID NOT
AS HE HAS IN THE PAST SIMPLY
DISMISSED KIM JONG-un AS
"LITTLE
ROCKET MAN."
KEITH BOAG, CBC NEWS,
WASHINGTON.
>> Andrew: A QUINTESSENTIAL
CANADIAN PRODUCT IS FACING NEW
COMPETITION.
MORE ICE WINES PRODUCED IN THIS
COUNTRY THAN ANYWHERE ELSE ON
THE PLANET AND FOR THE
REPUTATION OF PRODUCING NOTHING
BUT THE FINEST IT'S BECOME A
KIND OF LIQUID GOLD.
A BOTTLE HALF OF THE SIZE OF
TABLE WINE CAN SELL FOR AS MUCH
AS $100, SO WHILE ICE WINE WAS
JUST HALF A PERCENT OF VOLUME IN
2016 IT WAS MORE THAN 24% OF THE
TOTAL EXPORT VALUE.
WITH NUMBERS LIKE THAT IT'S NO
WONDER THAT THE U.S. WANTS IN ON
THE ACTION.
WE SENT AARON SALTZMAN TO FIND
OUT HOW THEIR ICE WINE STACKS
UP.
(*)
>> Reporter: IT LOOKS AND
FEELS LIKE CANADA.
BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY NORTHERN
NEW YORK STATE, HOME TO PHIL
RANDAZZO, AN AMERICAN WHO IS
TRYING TO GRAB A PIECE OF WHAT
MIGHT BE CONSIDERED CANADA'S
NATIONAL PRODUCT.
WE THINK OF ICE WINE AS
CANADIAN.
>> I'M SORRY.
>> Reporter: RANDAZZO OWNS
COYOTE MOON VINEYARDS, A FAMILY
BUSINESS ON THE SOUTHSIDE OF THE
ST. LAWRENCE RIVER AND IT TAKES
A SPECIAL KIND OF GRAPE TO GROW
HERE.
THESE CAN SURVIVE IN
TEMPERATURES AS LOW AS -35°.
RANDAZZO SAW OPPORTUNITY IN THE
COLD.
>> WE DECIDED THAT THIS WOULD BE
A GREAT VENUE TO TRY SOME ICE
WINE AS AN EXPERIMENT.
>> Reporter: THEY'RE ONE OF
ONLY A HANDFUL OF AMERICANS TO
PRODUCE THIS STUFF.
MANY AROUND THE WORLD HAVE
TRIED.
IN CHINA YOU CAN FIND
COUNTERFEIT CANADIAN ICE WINE
MADE BY MIXING WINE WITH SUGAR.
OTHERS USE FROZEN GRAPE JUICE.
RANDAZZO DECIDED THAT HE'D MAKE
HIS THE CANADIAN WAY.
HE LEFT THE GRAPES ON THE VINE,
WAITED UNTIL IT WAS AT LEAST -8°
AND THEN HE AND HIS TEAM HEADED
OUT INTO THE FRIGID NIGHT AND
SPENT HOURS PICKING FROZEN
GRAPES OFF VINES.
JUST LIKE CANADIANS.
>> IT SO HAPPENS THAT THE
CANADIANS MAKE REALLY GOOD ICE
WINE.
I THINK THAT IT'S THE SAME THING
WITH US MAKING WINE LIKE THE
FRENCH DO OR MAKE PORT WINE THE
WAY
THAT THE PORTUGUESE DO.
AND YOU GO TO THE CORE OF WHO IS
DOING IT BETTER THAN ANYBODY
ELSE IN THE WORLD AND THAT'S
WHAT YOU MODEL YOURSELF AGAINST.
WE WILL HAVE IT AROUND 28...
>> Reporter: RANDAZZO
PROCESSES HIS GRAPES JUST LIKE
CANADIAN DOES AND MAKING SURE
THAT IT REACHES SPECIFIC SUGAR
AND ALCOHOL LEVELS MANDATED BY
CANADIAN STANDARDS.
>> I THINK THAT OURS IS BETTER.
>> Reporter: YOU THINK THAT
YOURS IS BETTER?
>> YEAH.
>> Reporter: CHRISTINA WHO
ALSO WORKS IN THE FAMILY
BUSINESS GIVES ME A TASTE OF THE
FINAL PRODUCT.
>> YOU ARE SEEING A FRONTENAC
WHICH IS A RED WINE AND IT MAKES
IT FULL, RICH, CREAMY,
DELICIOUS, SWEET, EVERYTHING
THAT YOU WOULD WANT FROM AN ICE
WINE.
>> Reporter: THE PRICE IS
COMPARABLE TO SOME OF THE MORE
EXPENSIVE CANADIAN ICE WINES $75
U.S. PLUS TAX.
THEY SOLD OUT OF THEIR ENTIRE
PRODUCTION, SHE SAYS, ALMOST
IMMEDIATELY.
SEEMS THAT THE THIRST FOR ICE
WINE KNOWS NO BORDERS.
>> THIS IS THE LOCATION WHERE WE
BUILT IN 1978...
>> Reporter: MEET ONE OF THE
MAIN REASONS BEHIND ICE WINE'S
INTERNATIONAL APPEAL.
DONALD ZIRALDO FIRST STARTED
MAKING IT
IN NIAGARA 35 YEARS AGO ALONG
WITH HIS PARTNER, THE LATE KARL
KAISER.
>> IN 1983 HE ASKED ME TO LEAVE
13 ROWS
RIGHT UP AT THE FRONT OF THE
GRAPES TO FREEZE AND I THOUGHT
THAT HE WASPOTZO THAT HE HAD HAD
TOO MUCH
OF HIS OWN WINE.
>> Reporter: IN 1991, THEIR
ICE WINE WON THE GREATEST
ACCOLADE IN THE WORLD OF WINE --
THE "GRAND PRIX d'HONNEUR" IN
BORDEAU.
>> WHEN THE FRENCH BLESSED IT IT
WAS LIKE THE POPE BLESSING AN
ITALIAN OR CATHOLIC, THIS WAS
THE FRENCH BLESSING AND YOU HAVE
THE BEST DESSERT WINE IN THE
WORLD.
THAT'S THE QUEEN MOTHER.
>> Reporter: ALL OF A SUDDEN
ZIRALDO BECAME A CELEBRITY IN
THE WORLD
OF WINE, HANGING WITH PRIME
MINISTERS AND INTERNATIONAL
LEADERS AND ICE WINE BECAME A
THING.
EVERY BIT AS CANADIAN AS MAPLE
SYRUP, CREATED IN THE COLD BY
THOSE WILLING TO BRAVE OUR
INFAMOUS WINTERS.
ICE WINE STILL DRAWS PEOPLE IN
TODAY.
IT REMAINS A KEY DRIVER OF THE
ENTIRE CANADIAN WINE INDUSTRY
AND NOW THE AMERICANS ARE MOVING
IN.
>> I THINK THAT AS THEY SAY THAT
COMPETITION IS GOOD.
>> Reporter: DELL ROLO IS A
WELL KNOWN VOICE OF THE CANADIAN
WINE INDUSTRY AND IS PART OF THE
COMPANY THAT NOW OWNS
INNISKILLIN.
>> THEY ARE DOING THINGS THAT
ARE INNOVATIVE AND EXCITING AND
WE KEEP OUR EYE ON ON THOSE
THINGS AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO
COMPETE WITH THEM.
WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND SO ON, THEY
STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO.
>> Reporter: PERHAPS.
CRAIG UDELL AT THE NIAGARA
COLLEGE SAYS THAT IT WOULD TAKE
ANOTHER MIRACLE ON ICE FOR
AMERICA TO CATCH UP TO CANADIAN
ICE WINE BUT --
>> WHENEVER SOMETHING LIKE AN
AMERICAN BUSINESS WANTS TO BE
ABLE TO PRODUCE A PRODUCT WE
ALWAYS ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEM
P
ABLE TO PRODUCE A PRODUCT WE
ALWAYS ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEM
PRODUCING THIS HUGE LARGE VOLUME
OF PRODUCT AND THEY'RE ABLE TO
PRODUCE IT AT A LOWER PRICE.
>> COYOTE MOON...
>> Reporter: AS THE MAN WHO
WROTE THE BOOK ON CANADIAN ICE
WINE WE WANTED TO FIND OUT WHAT
DONALD ZIRALDO THOUGHT OF THIS
NEW
AMERICAN VERSION.
>> SO THIS IS ALWAYS -- ON WOW!
THERE'S A FIRST SURPRISE.
THE COLOUR.
>> Reporter: WHAT DO YOU MAKE
OF IT?
>> IT'S REALLY DARK.
SUBTLE NOSE.
NOT MUCH IN THE NOSE BUT
THEN IT'S COOL.
SWEET, ACIDITY IS NOT BAD, IT
COULD BE BETTER ON THE
ACIDITY -- DIFFERENT.
A LITTLE BIT OF BITTERNESS
COMING TO ME IN THE FINISH.
JUST THE VARIETY.
I'M JUST NOT USED TO IT SO IT'S
SOMETHING THAT I'M ADJUSTING
AND, OF COURSE, TELLING SOMEBODY
ABOUT THEIR WINES LIKE TALKING
ABOUT SOMEBODY'S CHILDREN.
YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY BE
CAREFUL.
>> Reporter: SO WHAT DOES HE
THINK ABOUT THE YANKS TAKING US
ON AT OUR OWN GAME?
>> I THINK THAT IF THE AMERICANS
WANT TO
CHALLENGE US, GREAT, IT WILL BE
LIKE THE HOCKEY TEAM AND WE'LL
BEAT THEM AND THEN WE'LL BE MORE
FAMOUS THAN WE ARE NOW.
>> Reporter: IF YOU HAD ANY
ADVICE FOR THESE NEWER ICE WINE
PRODUCERS
IN THE STATES WHAT WOULD IT BE?
>> IN THE STATES?
>> Reporter: SURE.
>> GOOD LUCK.
[laughter]
CATCHING UP.
>> Reporter: BACK IN NEW YORK
PHIL RINDAZZO DOESN'T SEEM
WORRIED.
>> I THINK THAT IF THE WINES
GOOD IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
WINE MAKERS DON'T REALLY HAVE A
BORDER THAT THEY DEAL WITH.
IT'S ALL TRYING TO COME UP WITH
THE BEST PRODUCT POSSIBLE.
>> Reporter: THAT MEANS
PRODUCING ICE WINE THE CANADIAN
WAY, ONLY HIS IS MADE IN
AMERICA.
AARON SALTZMAN, CBC NEWS,
CLAYTON, NEW YORK.
>> Andrew: YOU HEARD AARON
MENTION COUNTERFEIT ICE WINES.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
YOURS IS THE REAL STUFF LOOK
CLOSER AT THE BOTTLE.
NOW ICE WINE SHOULD BE SPELLED
AS A SINGLE WORD AND THERE
SHOULD BE A V.Q.A. LABEL.
THE NAME "ICEWINE" IS A
REGISTERED TRADEMARK
IN CANADA AND CAN ONLY BE USED
BY PRODUCERS OF V.Q.A. APPROVED
WINE.
>> Adrienne: SO THIS IS A BIG
NIGHT FOR THOSE IN THE BROADCAST
INDUSTRY INCLUDING THOSE OF US
HERE AT THE CBC, THE CANADIAN
SCREEN AWARDS WERE HANDED OUT
AND I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO
CONGRATULATE SOME OF OUR
COLLEAGUES.
[Applause]
>> I CHANGE THROUGH MY DANCE...
>> Adrienne: THE DOCUMENTARY
"DANCING TOWARD THE LIGHT" JUST
PICKED UP THE AWARD FOR BEST
PHOTOGRAPHY AND NEWS AND THE
FILMMAKERS AIRED THEIR STORY ON
"THE NATIONAL" LAST SPRING.
THAT FILM SPOTLIGHTS A YOUTH
DANCE COMPETITION IN NUNAVUT
THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE A POSITIVE
FORCE FOR HOPE AND HEALING IN A
TOWN PLAGUED BY SUICIDE.
AND...
>> GETTING UP AT 2:30 EVERY
MORNING...
>> Adrienne: THAT IS THE
AMAZING HEATHER HISCOX ACCEPTING
THE AWARD FOR BEST NATIONAL NEWS
ANCHOR, WELL DESERVED.
SHE'S HOSTED "MORNING LIVE" ON
CBC NEWS NETWORK FOR MORE THAN A
DECADE.
OUR COLLEAGUES AT "THE FIFTH
ESTATE" WON FOR BEST INFORMATION
SERIES.
AND I HAVE TO MENTION ONE OF THE
OTHER NIGHT'S BIG WINNERS...
>> ANDREW CHANG...
>> Adrienne: SO THERE YOU GO,
OUR VERY OWN ANDREW CHANG WON
BEST LOCAL NEWS ANCHOR IN
PARTICULAR FOR HIS SIX-HOUR LIVE
BROADCAST OF THE PROVINCIAL
ELECTION LAST MAY.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED
TO, YOU KNOW, SHOVE CHAMPAGNE
THROUGH INTEROFFICE MAIL, I'M
NOT ABOUT TRYING THOUGH.
WELL DONE YOU.
WELL DONE YOU.
>> Andrew: THAT'S SO FUNNY AND
THAT FEELS LIKE A LIFETIME AGO.
BUT I HAVE A THEORY, I THINK
THAT THE ONLY REASON THEY GAVE
ME THAT THING IS BECAUSE THEY
TOOK
PITY THAT IT TOOK SIX HOURS TO
GET THROUGH THAT BROADCAST.
IT WAS WILD BUT I HAD A GREAT
TEAM AROUND ME AND A GREAT STORY
TOO.
>>> MEANTIME STILL AHEAD... THE
MAGIC MOMENT WANDA ROBSON SEES
HER SISTER ON THE $10 BILL FOR
THE FIRST TIME.
THAT IS NEXT ON "THE NATIONAL."
(*)
(*)
>> Adrienne: TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL"... A MOMENT IN THE
HOTSEAT FOR PRIME MINISTER
JUSTIN TRUDEAU.
AT AN EVENT IN OTTAWA TODAY,
BILL NYE ASKED HIM ABOUT THE
CONTROVERSIAL KINDER MORGAN
PIPELINE.
>> I HAVE BEEN TO FORT
McMURRAY, ALBERTA, AND IT
REALLY IS AN AMAZING PLACE IN
THE MOST TROUBLING WAY.
TELL MY COLLEAGUES IN THE
STATES -- TELL US ABOUT THE
KINDER MORGAN PIPELINE.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: WE ARE INVESTING
MASSIVELY IN RENEWABLES, IN
RESEARCH AND SCIENCE TOWARDS
THAT.
HOWEVER, WE CAN'T GET THERE
TOMORROW, RIGHT?
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A
TRANSITION PHASE WHILE WE
DEVELOP ALTERNATIVES TO FOSSIL
FUELS.
>> Andrew: AFTER THE PRIME
MINISTER DEFENDED HIS
GOVERNMENT'S 2016 DECISION TO
GREEN LIGHT THE PROJECT, NYE
SAID THAT HE ACCEPTED THE
REASONING BEHIND THE APPROVAL.
>>> WELL, BLACKBERRY IS SUING
FACEBOOK, WHATSAPP AND INSTAGRAM
AND FILING PAPERS TODAY IN
CALIFORNIA.
IT ACCUSES THE THREE SOCIAL
MEDIA PLATFORMS OF INFRINGING ON
A NUMBER OF BLACKBERRY'S U.S.
PATENTS USING THE WATERLOO, COMPANY'S,
ONTARIO COMPANY'S
MOBILE MESSAGING I.P.
ONTARIO COMPANY'S
MOBILE MESSAGING I.P.
FACEBOOK WHICH OWNS BOTH
INSTAGRAM AND WHATSAPP SAYS THEY
PLAN TO FIGHT THE LAWSUIT.
>> Adrienne: SOON CANADIANS
WILL HAVE A SNEAK PEEK AT THE
NEW $10 BILL, THE BANKNOTE
FEATURING VIOLA DESMOND WILL BE
UNVEILED ON THURSDAY,
INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY.
VIOLA'S SISTER, WANDA ROBSON,
WAS ON HAND WHEN THE MINISTER OF
FINANCE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT
BACK IN 2016.
IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT SHE STOLE
THE SHOW.
>> IT IS A BIG DAY TO HAVE A
WOMAN ON A BANKNOTE AND IT'S A
REALLY BIG DAY TO HAVE MY BIG
SISTER ON THE NOTE.
[Applause]
>> Adrienne: ROBSON HAS BEEN
WORKING TO KEEP HER BIG STORY'S
LEGACY ALIVE.
VIOLA DESMOND WAS A CIVIL RIGHTS
PIONEER JAILED IN 1946 FOR
SITTING IN THE WHITES' ONLY
SECTION OF A NOVA SCOTIA MOVIE
THEATRE.
SHE CHALLENGED THE LEGALITY OF
HER FINE AND CALLING OUT THE
UNDERLYING RACIAL
DISCRIMINATION.
DESMOND HAS BEEN HONOURED IN A
"HERITAGE MINUTE" AND ON STAMPS
AND BOOKS AND NOW AS THE FIRST
CANADIAN WOMAN TO GRACE THE
FRONT OF A $10 BILL.
AND SO HERE IS HER SISTER
WANDA'S REACTION WHEN SHE GOT AN
EARLY LOOK AT THAT NEW
BANKNOTE.
>> THE BANK OF CANADA... OH!
>> Adrienne: LOOK AT THAT
FACE.
WANDA LIKED WHAT SHE SAW AND THE
REST OF US WILL HAVE TO WAIT TWO
MORE DAYS FOR THE UNVEILING AT
THE HALIFAX CENTRAL LIBRARY AND
THAT BILL WILL BE IN CIRCULATION
LATER THIS YEAR.
>> Andrew: YEAH AND YOU KNOW,
ROSIE WAS
MENTIONING TO US THAT PEOPLE
WERE LINING UP FOR HUGS WHEN SHE
WAS LAST INTERVIEWED.
SHE'S JUST THAT KIND OF PERSON.
AND IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING
WHAT IS NEXT FOR SIR JOHN A.
MacDONALD WHO IS CURRENTLY ON
THE $10, THE PLAN IS FOR HIM TO
BE HONOURED IN A HIGHER VALUED
BANKNOTE.
THAT DOES IT FOR US, THIS IS
"THE NATIONAL" FOR TUESDAY,
MARCH 6.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
>> Adrienne: GOODNIGHT.
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