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>> Adrienne: ON THIS MONDAY
NIGHT, HEARTBREAKING
DEVELOPMENTS IN A CASE THAT HAS
BEEN FULL OF THEM.
TORONTO POLICE ARE TAKING THE
UNUSUAL STEP OF RELEASING A
PHOTO OF A DEAD MAN.
KILLED THEY BELIEVE BY BRUCE
McARTHUR, HOPING THAT SOMEONE,
ANYONE, WILL IDENTIFY HIM.
THIS IS AS THEY REVEALED THE
REMAINS OF A SEVENTH PERSON THAT
WERE FOUND IN A TORONTO
HOSPITAL.
WE'LL LOOK AT THE CHALLENGES
THAT THE INVESTIGATORS FACE TO
IDENTIFY THE VICTIMS.
>> Andrew: WE'RE ALSO
FOLLOWING A MYSTERY IN EUROPE.
DID SOMEONE POISON A FORMER
RUSSIAN SPY?
>> Rosemary: AND JUSTIN
TRUDEAU AND DONALD TRUMP TALK
TARIFFS AND TRADE.
"THE NATIONAL" STARTS NOW.
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>> Adrienne: WE BEGIN IN
TORONTO WHERE POLICE HAVE HIT A
ROADBLOCK IN THEIR INVESTIGATION
OF AN ALLEGED SERIAL KILLER,
IOANNA ROUMELIOTIS WAS THERE
TODAY WHEN THEY RELUCTANTLY
OFFERED THE PUBLIC A KEY AND
DISTURBING CLUE.
>> I DO NOT WANT TO RELEASE THIS
PICTURE AND I'M DOING SO AS A
LAST RESORT.
>> Reporter: IT WAS AN
EXTRAORDINARY MOVE, RELEASING A
PHOTO OF A DEAD MAN.
>> I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS AND I
DO IT WITH GREAT HESITATION.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY A KEY PIECE OF
EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE
RELEASING BUT WE DO FEEL THAT BY
RELEASING IT HOPEFULLY WE CAN
IDENTIFY HIM AND CLOSE OFF THAT
AREA OF THE INVESTIGATION.
>> Reporter: POLICE WON'T SAY
WHERE THEY GOT THE PICTURE OR
WHERE THEY THINK THAT IT WAS
TAKEN, BUT WILL SAY THAT THEY
BELIEVE THAT THE MAN IS YET
ANOTHER VICTIM OF ACCUSED SERIAL
KILLER BRUCE McARTHUR.
THEY NEED TO KNOW WHO HE IS.
>> WE HAVE UTILIZED NUMEROUS
INVESTIGATIVE TECHNIQUES TO
IDENTIFY THIS INDIVIDUAL AND
SO FAR HAVE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL.
>> Reporter: THE PHOTO IS
DISTURBING, EVEN MORE SO
CONSIDERING THAT IT
MAY BE A TROPHY SHOT OF SORTS.
IT'S TYPICAL FOR SERIAL KILLERS
TO COLLECT SOUVENIRS OF THEIR
CRIMES.
POLICE HAVE SEIZED FROM THE
EVIDENCE McARTHUR'S APARTMENT,
INCLUDING HIS COMPUTER AND MORE
FROM INSIDE OF A HOUSE WHERE HE
STORED HIS LANDSCAPING TOOLS.
FROM THAT SAME HOUSE, FROM THOSE
SAME PLANTERS CONTAINING BODY
PARTS, POLICE NOW SAY THEY HAVE
THE REMAINS OF A SEVENTH VICTIM.
THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BELONG TO
THE MYSTERY MAN.
>> WE HAVE SHOWN THIS PICTURE TO
SEVERAL PEOPLE AND WE DON'T KNOW
WHO THIS GENTLEMAN IS SO I'M
SURE THAT SOMEONE WILL RECOGNIZE
HIM OR THINK THAT THEY RECOGNIZE
HIM.
AND I WOULD ASK ANYONE THAT
DOES,
PLEASE CALL US AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE.
>> Reporter: THE GRISLY TOLL
NOW, SEVEN SETS OF REMAINS,
THREE OF WHICH HAVE BEEN
IDENTIFIED, FOUR OTHERS ARE
STILL UNDERGOING FORENSIC
ANALYSIS.
THE CHALLENGE, MATCHING THOSE
REMAINS TO VICTIMS WHO MAY NOT
HAVE BEEN REPORTED MISSING.
POLICE HAVE CIRCULATED THE PHOTO
THEY RELEASED TODAY TO COMMUNITY
GROUPS IN TORONTO'S GAY VILLAGE.
IT'S HARD TO LOOK AT BUT SOME
SAY THAT IT'S THE LEAST EVERYONE
SHOULD TRY TO DO.
>> WELL, I THINK THEY HAVE TO
FIND OUT WHO HE IS FOR HIS
DIGNITY AND HOPEFULLY FOR HIS
FAMILY AND HIS FRIENDS.
>> Reporter: NICKI WARD IS A
WELL-KNOWN ADVOCATE IN THE
COMMUNITY AND SHE IS CIRCULATING
THE PICTURE TOO.
>> LOOK FAMILIAR?
>> YEAH, PROBABLY HAVE SEEN
AROUND.
>> ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE
VICTIMS WERE IN OUR
NEIGHBOURHOOD AT ONE TIME OR
ANOTHER AND SO WHETHER WE KNEW
THEM WELL OR WE KNEW THEM BY
FACE THEY WERE PART OF OUR
COMMUNITY.
SO, YES, THERE'S AN EERIE
FAMILIARITY ABOUT IT.
>> Adrienne: AND IOANNA IS
JOINING US NOW.
SO McARTHUR IS FACING SIX
CHARGES AND FIRST-DEGREE MURDER
AND NOW THERE'S A NEW PHOTO AND
WORD OF MORE REMAINS.
WHY NOT A NEW CHARGE?
>> Reporter: IDEALLY THEY WANT
A NAME
TO BUILD MORE EVIDENCE AGAINST
McARTHUR AND SO THAT'S WHAT
THEY'RE HOPING TO GET.
THEY'RE OPTIMISTIC THEY WILL GET
IT.
THEY HAVE TIME.
THEIR MAIN SUSPECT IS BEHIND
BARS AND
ALREADY THEY HAVE RECEIVED CALLS
TODAY AFTER THEY RELEASED THE
PHOTO SO THEY'RE PRETTY
OPTIMISTIC THAT THEY'LL GET THE
INFORMATION.
>> Adrienne: YOU HAVE BEEN
STAYING IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH
THESE DETECTIVES.
WHAT IS YOUR SENSE OF WHAT'S
NEXT FROM THEM?
>> Reporter: WELL, THERE'S
DEFINITELY THE FORENSICS THAT
THEY'RE WAITING ON AND THEY'RE
STILL COMBING THROUGH HIS
COMPUTER AND DIGITAL FOOTPRINT
AND THEN IN TERMS OF PHYSICAL
EVIDENCE THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER
PROPERTIES THEY WANT TO EXAMINE
AND THAT WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN
SOME TIME IN THE SPRING WHEN THE
GROUND LITERALLY DEFROSTS A BIT.
>> Adrienne: JUST TIME.
>> Reporter: YEP.
>> Adrienne: THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
CBC NEWS CONFIRMED THAT POLICE
DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE BODY PARTS
OF McARTHUR'S ALLEGED VICTIMS
AND THAT POSES ANOTHER PROBLEM
FOR INVESTIGATORS.
>> IF YOU HAVE AN INCOMPLETE SET
OF REMAINS IT MAY BE VERY
OF REMAINS IT MAY BE VERY
DIFFICULT TO ASCERTAIN THE CAUSE
OF DEATH.
>> Adrienne: DECOMPOSITION IS
ANOTHER CHALLENGE FOR
INVESTIGATORS.
ALTHOUGH FORENSIC
ANTHROPOLOGISTS TOLD CBC NEWS
TODAY THAT HIDING BODY PARTS IN
PLANTERS MAY HAVE ACTUALLY
HELPED TO PRESERVE THEM.
>> WE STILL HAVE FOUR SETS OF
UNIDENTIFIED REMAINS AND WE HAVE
GONE THROUGH FINGERPRINTS AND
DENTAL RECORDS AND WE'RE NOW
INTO THE D.N.A. PROCESS.
>> Adrienne: THAT PROCESS CAN
BE TIME CONSUMING.
IF YOU CONSIDER THAT IF THE
PERSON WAS NEVER REPORTED
MISSING AND THERE'S NO FAMILY
MEMBER TO TEST THE D.N.A.
AGAINST THEN YOU HAVE EVEN MORE
CHALLENGES IN WHAT IS ALREADY A
PRETTY COMPLEX INVESTIGATION.
>> Andrew: YEAH, ABSOLUTELY,
ADRIENNE.
MEANTIME IN THE U.K. ANOTHER
CHALLENGING POLICE INVESTIGATION
WITH INTERNATIONAL IMPLICATIONS.
WHEN SOMEONE SUDDENLY COLLAPSES
WITH NO APPARENT CAUSE IT RAISES
QUESTIONS, BUT WHEN THAT PERSON
IS A FORMER RUSSIAN SPY IT
RAISES ALARMS.
WHAT HAPPENED TO SERGEI SKRIPAL?
AS THOMAS DAIGLE TELLS US IN THE
SOUTHERN TOWN OF SALISBURY THE
POLICE ARE DEALING WITH A
MYSTERY.
>> Reporter: POLICE WORKED
WELL INTO THE NIGHT CAREFULLY
EXAMINING THE SITE OF A BIZARRE
INCIDENT THEY STILL CAN'T
EXPLAIN.
IT HAPPENED YESTERDAY IN A
SHOPPING AREA UNDER THE SPOT NOW
MARKED BY THAT BLUE TENT.
>> THERE WAS A COUPLE, AN OLDER
GUY AND A YOUNGER GIRL.
SHE WAS SORT OF LAYING ON HIM
AND IT LOOKED LIKE SHE WAS
PASSED OUT MAYBE.
HE WAS DOING SOME
STRANGE HAND MOVEMENTS AND
LOOKING UP TO THE SKY.
>> Reporter: POLICE SAY THAT
THE TWO WERE FOUND UNCONSCIOUS
THOUGH WITH NO VISIBLE INJURIES,
LIKELY EXPOSED TO AN UNKNOWN
SUBSTANCE.
THEY WERE RUSHED TO HOSPITAL
WHERE AUTHORITIES TODAY DECLARED
A MAJOR INCIDENT.
>> I CAN CONFIRM THAT THEY'RE
TREATED HERE AT THE SALISBURY
DISTRICT HOSPITAL AND THAT THEIR
CONDITION DOES REMAIN CRITICAL.
>> Reporter: AUTHORITIES
DIDN'T NAME THE TWO HOSPITALIZED
BUT THE BRITISH MEDIA IDENTIFIED
THE MAN AS 66-YEAR-OLD SERGEI
SKRIPAL.
A FORMER RUSSIAN SPY CONVICTED
IN 2006 IN A MOSCOW MILITARY
COURT OF TREASON.
HE'S THOUGHT TO HAVE SOLD THE
NAMES OF RUSSIAN OPERATIVES TO
BRITAIN'S M.I.6.
AND THEN FOUR YEARS LATER A DEAL
BETWEEN RUSSIA AND THE U.S. SAW
PRISONERS FROM BOTH COUNTRIES
FLOWN TO FREEDOM, INCLUDING THE
COLOURFUL ANNA CHAPMAN, A
RUSSIAN SLEEPER AGENT ARRESTED
BY THE F.B.I., AND THE LOWER
PROFILED SKRIPAL, GRANTED REFUGE
IN ENGLAND.
POLICE KEPT A CLOSE EYE ON HIS
HOME TODAY.
>> WE ARE CONDUCTING SOME
EXTENSIVE INQUIRIES TO DETERMINE
EXACTLY WHAT LED TO THESE TWO
PEOPLE FALLING UNCONSCIOUS AND
TO CLARIFY WHETHER OR NOT ANY
CRIMINAL ACTIVITY HAS TAKEN
PLACE.
>> Reporter: THEY LEFT WITHOUT
SAYING WHETHER THE PAIR COULD
HAVE BEEN POISONED.
STILL THE CASE REMINDS MANY
HERE OF THE STORY OF ALEXANDER
LITVINENKO.
THE FORMER RUSSIAN SPY TURNED
M.I.6 INFORMANT WAS KILLED IN
THIS POSH HOTEL IN 2006 WITH
RADIOACTIVE PLUONIUM IN A CUP OF
TEA.
A PUBLIC INQUIRY FOUND THAT THE
DEATH WAS LIKELY APPROVED BY
PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN.
THOMAS DAIGLE, CBC NEWS, LONDON.
>> Andrew: NOW THE MYSTERIOUS
ILLNESSES IN SALISBURY TODAY MAY
HAVE
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE KREMLIN
BUT THERE'S GOOD REASONS TO LOOK
OVER YOUR SHOULDER.
HERE'S JUST A FEW RECENT
EXAMPLES.
IN DECEMBER 2016, A SENIOR
RUSSIAN DIPLOMAT WAS FOUND DEAD
IN HIS MOSCOW HOME WITH A PILLOW
OVER HIS HEAD.
COVERING A GUNSHOT WOUND.
AND THAT SAME MONTH A FORMER
GENERAL IN THE RUSSIAN
INTELLIGENCE SERVICE, THE
F.S.B., WAS FOUND DEAD IN HIS
CAR PARKED ON A MOSCOW STREET.
AND IN AUGUST 2017, A RUSSIAN
POLITICIAN CRITICAL OF THE
KREMLIN WAS GUNNED DOWN IN KYIV
IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.
>>> WELL, NOW TO ANOTHER BIG
INTERNATIONAL STORY WITH
POTENTIALLY SERIOUS IMPLICATIONS
FOR CANADIANS.
ROSIE?
>> Rosemary: THAT'S RIGHT,
ANDREW.
NAFTA NEGOTIATIONS.
THERE IS NOW A NEW SENSE OF
URGENCY TONIGHT BECAUSE THE U.S.
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS USING HIS
PROPOSED TARIFFS ON STEEL AND
ALUMINUM TO GOOSE THE SLUGGISH
TRADE TALKS.
AS KATIE SIMPSON EXPLAINS HE'S
DANGLING POTENTIAL EXEMPTIONS AS
A NAFTA SWEETENER.
>> Reporter: CANADIAN FIELD
WORKERS ARE ALREADY STARTING TO
FEEL THE EFFECTS OF A LOOMING
TRADE WAR.
>> I REALLY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT
TO INCREASE MY PRICES.
>> Reporter: RYAN JORDAN
EMPLOYS SIX PEOPLE AT HIS SMALL
OPERATION IN WINDSOR, ONTARIO.
HE SAYS HE'LL HAVE TO CUT JOBS
IF PLANNED U.S. TARIFFS ON STEEL
AND ALUMINUM ARE NOT STOPPED.
>> IF THE NUMBERS START TO CLIMB
TO AN EXTRA 10%, 15%, 20%, 25%,
I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER
MATERIALS.
>> WILL YOU BACK DOWN ON THE
TARIFFS?
>> President Donald Trump: NO,
WE'RE NOT BACKING DOWN.
>> Reporter: DONALD TRUMP
COULD INTRODUCE THE TARIFFS AS
EARLY AS THIS WEEK AND OFFERED A
CLUE TODAY AS TO WHY.
>> President Donald Trump: IT
COULD BE PART OF NAFTA AND I
JUST GOT A CALL FROM THE PEOPLE
RIGHT NOW IN MEXICO CITY
NEGOTIATING NAFTA.
MEXICO AND REALLY CANADA WANT TO
TALK ABOUT IT.
>> Reporter: THE U.S. IS
PROMISING TO EXEMPT BOTH CANADA
AND MEXICO FROM THE TARIFFS ONLY
IF THEY AGREE TO A NEW NAFTA ON
AMERICAN TERMS.
THE PITCH COMES AS THE SEVENTH
ROUND OF TALKS WRAPPED UP IN
MEXICO CITY.
CANADA SEES THESE ISSUES AS
SEPARATE CONCERNS AND IS NOT
RULING OUT TAKING SEPARATE
ACTION AGAINST THE U.S. OVER THE
TARIFFS.
>> SHOULD RESTRICTIONS BE
IMPOSED ON CANADIAN STEEL AND
ALUMINUM PRODUCTS, CANADA
WILL TAKE APPROPRIATE RESPONSIVE
MEASURES TO DEFEND OUR TRADE
INTERESTS AND OUR WORKERS.
>> Reporter: CANADA IS STILL
CONSIDERING ITS NEXT MOVES.
WHEN THE U.S. IMPOSED TARIFFS ON
SOFTWOOD LUMBER LAST YEAR, THE
LIBERALS CAME UP WITH AN $
$800 MILLION AID PACKAGE.
NOT EVERYONE IN THE INDUSTRY
THINKS THAT IS THE BEST WAY
FORWARD.
>> WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR
HANDOUTS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T
WANT A DOLLAR WHAT WE WANT TO DO
IS TO OPERATE FREELY AND FAIRLY
IN THE MARKET.
>> Reporter: ALL OF THIS
UNCERTAINTY MAY ACTUALLY BE
HELPING THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION.
>> IF COMPANIES ARE UNCERTAIN
WHETHER NAFTA IS GOING TO GO
AWAY OR NOT THEY'RE MORE LIKELY
TO PLACE THEIR FUTURE
INVESTMENTS IN THE LARGEST
MARKET WHICH IS THE UNITED
STATES.
>> Reporter: LATE TONIGHT THE
PRIME MINISTER WAS HERE IN HIS
OFFICE WHERE HE HELD A PHONE
CALL WITH TRUMP.
JUSTIN TRUDEAU HIGHLIGHTED THE
PROGRESS MADE IN THIS ROUND OF
NAFTA TALKS AND WARNED THE
PRESIDENT THAT ANY NEW TARIFFS
WOULD NOT BE HELPFUL IN REACHING
A DEAL.
KATIE SIMPSON, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.
>> Rosemary: FEARS OF THAT
SO-CALLED TRADE WAR AND THE
NAFTA CONCERNS ARE CERTAINLY
WEAKENING THE CANADIAN DOLLAR.
THE LOONIE DIPPED BELOW .77
CENTS AT ONE POINT THIS
AFTERNOON, THAT'S THE LOWEST
LEVEL AGAINST THE U.S. DOLLAR
SINCE LAST JULY.
>>> THERE'S BEEN EMOTIONAL
REACTION TO A DAMNING REPORT
ABOUT THE DEATH OF AN INDIGENOUS
MAN IN THUNDER BAY.
AS WE TOLD YOU FIRST LAST NIGHT
AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW FOUND THAT
POLICE DID NOT CONDUCT A PROPER
INVESTIGATION BECAUSE OF RACISM
AND NEGLECT OF DUTY.
TODAY THE VICTIM'S BROTHER SAYS
THOSE FINDINGS CAME AS NO
SURPRISE TO HIM.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY JUST
BEING PUT ASIDE, LIKE OH, IT
DOESN'T MATTER OR WHATNOT
BECAUSE THEY'RE INDIANS AND
NATIVE PEOPLE AND THIS AND THAT.
>> Rosemary: 41-YEAR-OLD STACY
DeBUNGEE WAS FOUND DEAD IN THE
MACINTYRE RIVER IN THE FALL OF
2015.
POLICE DECIDED QUICKLY THAT HE
FELL INTO THE RIVER DRUNK.
AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW HAS NOW
BACKED UP THE FINDINGS OF A 2016
PRIVATE INVESTIGATION AND A
"FIFTH ESTATE" DOCUMENTARY
SAYING THAT THERE WAS NO BASIS
TO AFFIRMATIVELY RULE OUT FOUL
PLAY.
AND THAT INVESTIGATORS
"PREMATURE CONCLUSION MAY HAVE
BEEN DRAWN BECAUSE THE DECEASES
WAS INDIGENOUS."
CAMERON MacINTOSH IS IN
THUNDER BAY WITH MORE.
>> JUST THE WAY THEY SAID THEY
FOUND HIM.
>> Reporter: BRAD DeBUNGEE
NEVER BELIEVED THAT HIS BROTHER
STACY DROWNED HERE ON THE
MacINTIRE RIVER AFTER PASSING
OUT ON THE RIVERBANK.
EVEN AFTER THE BAND COUNCIL
HIRED AN INVESTIGATOR AND FOUND
EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY HE
COULDN'T GET POLICE TO LISTEN.
>> I WAS UP AGAINST A BRICK WALL
AND THEY WOULDN'T ANSWER MY
QUESTIONS.
AND JUST HOW THEY CAME TO
FUNCTION THAT HE ROLLED INTO THE
WATER AND DROWNED...
>> Reporter: CONCERNS NOW
CONFIRMED BY ONTARIO'S
INDEPENDENT REVIEW DIRECTOR,
WHO SAYS THAT POLICE NOT ONLY
JUMPED TO CONCLUSIONS BUT THEY
WERE NEGLIGENT, OVERLOOKING
EVIDENCE
AND POSSIBLY DISCRIMINATORY
BECAUSE OF DeBUNGEE'S
INDIGENOUS STATUS.
NO SURPRISE TO THE INDIGENOUS
LEADERS HERE.
>> SOMEBODY MADE THE ASSUMPTION
THAT IT'S JUST ANOTHER DRUNK
INDIAN ROLLING IN THE RIVER.
>> Reporter: TODAY CHIEFS
REPRESENTING NORTHWESTERN
ONTARIO AND DeBUNGEE'S HOME
FIRST NATION REPEATED CALLS FOR
THUNDER BAY POLICE CHIEF J.P.
LEVESQUE TO RESIGN.
>> IF HE REFUSES TO RESIGN I'M
CALLING FOR THE BOARD TO FIRE
HIM.
>> Reporter: LEVESQUE ISN'T
TALKING.
NEITHER IS THE POLICE SERVICE
NOR THE POLICE BOARD THAT
OVERSEES IT CITING PRIVACY
CONCERNS.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST
TIME THAT RACISM IS A CENTRAL
ISSUE IN THUNDER BAY.
DeBUNGEE DIED AFTER THERE WAS
AN INQUEST UNDERWAY IN THE
YOUTHS THAT HAD RECOMMENDATIONS
TO POLICE AND AUTHORITIES.
>> I NO LONGER TRUST THE THUNDER
BAY POLICE.
>> Reporter: TONIGHT IN
THUNDER BAY A
COMMUNITY TALK AT THE UNIVERSITY
ON RACISM.
AND PLENTY OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF
TENSIONS EXISTING IN THE
COMMUNITY.
>> BLATANT SYSTEMIC RACISM EVERY
DAY AND OUR HEADLINES SHOW IT.
>> IT'S LIKE EVERYONE HAS THEIR
OWN PERSONAL LIKE SAFETY GUIDE
ON HOW TO SURVIVE IN THUNDER
BAY.
>> Reporter: TRAVIS HAYES'
FATHER WAS DEPUTY OF POLICE
HERE, WHEN PEOPLE ARE TALKING
ABOUT THE CASES OF COLTEN
BOUSHIE AND TINA FONTAINE, HE
CALLS THIS AN EXAMPLE OF
PREJUDICE.
>> IT'S NOT JUST THE COURT
SYSTEMS AND IT'S NOT JUST
GETTING BETTER REPRESENTATION ON
JURIES AND IT'S ABOUT
CHALLENGING CULTURES WITHIN
POLICING INSTITUTIONS THAT
DEVALUE THE LIVES OF INDIGENOUS
PEOPLES.
>> Reporter: AS FOR THE
OFFICERS IN THE REPORT THE
INDEPENDENT POLICE REVIEW
DIRECTOR SAY THAT THERE ARE
GROUNDS FOR NON-CRIMINAL
MISCONDUCT CHARGES.
SO FAR NO HEARINGS HAVE BEEN
SET.
CAMERON MacINTOSH, CBC NEWS,
THUNDER BAY.
>> Rosemary: AS CAM MENTIONED
AT THE TIME OF DeBUNGEE'S
DEATH, AN INQUEST WAS UNDERWAY
INTO THE DEATHS OF SEVEN
YOUNG INDIGENOUS PEOPLE.
FIVE OF WHOM HAD BEEN FOUND IN
THUNDER BAY
WATERWAYS UNDER SIMILAR
CIRCUMSTANCES.
POLICE WERE ALSO ACCUSED OF
RUSHING TO THE ASSUMPTION THAT
THOSE DEATHS WERE ACCIDENTS.
THIS LATEST REVIEW CALLS THAT
"TROUBLING," SAYING "ONE WOULD
HAVE REASONABLY EXPECTED THAT
INVESTIGATORS WOULD BE
PARTICULARLY VIGILANT IN
ENSURING THAT THE SUDDEN DEATH
OF AN INDIGENOUS MAN FOUND IN
THE RIVER WAS THOROUGH.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE OPPOSITE WAS
TRUE HERE."
>>> HERE'S WHAT ELSE WE ARE
WORKING ON FOR "THE NATIONAL," A
RUSSIAN TROLL FACTORY.
A PEEK INSIDE OF THE OPERATION
THAT HAS TURNED INTERNET HACKING
INTO AN ART.
>> Adrienne: ON "THE NATIONAL
DOCUMENTARY" MEET A DOCTOR WHOSE
PRACTISE IS ONE OF THE MOST
CHALLENGING IN CANADA.
>> Andrew: AND BEHIND THE BUZZ
WORDS THAT HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE
TALKING AFTER LAST NIGHT'S
OSCARER IS MOANGZ, "INCLUSION
RIDER."
>> ACTORS IN UNISON, THEY
EMBRACE THIS AS THEY SAID THAT
THIS COULD CREATE SHIFTS ALMOST
OVERNIGHT.
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>> President Donald Trump: I
LOOK FORWARD TO BEING THERE AND
I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT DECISION.
>> Andrew: TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL"... THE U.S. PRESIDENT
SAYS THAT HE MAY GO TO ISRAEL
FOR THE OPENING OF THE NEW
EMBASSY IN JERUSALEM.
DONALD TRUMP MET TODAY WITH
ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN
NETANYAHU AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
IT WAS THEIR FIRST MEETING SINCE
TRUMP MADE THE CONTROVERSIAL
DECISION TO RECOGNIZE JERUSALEM
AS ISRAEL'S CAPITAL.
>>> IN SYRIA TODAY A UNITED
NATIONS CONVOY OF AID TRUCKS
FINALLY MADE IT INTO THE
REBEL-HELD AREA OF EASTERN
GHOUTA BUT THEIR MISSION TO GET
MUCH-NEEDED AID IN WAS CUT SHORT
BY HEAVY SHELLING IN THE REGION.
U.N. OFFICIALS ARE ALSO
REPORTING THAT WHILE FOOD
PARCELS WERE ALLOWED IN, SYRIAN
AUTHORITIES REMOVED MOST OF THE
MEDICAL SUPPLIES FROM TRUCKS.
>> [speaking foreign language]
>> Andrew: THAT'S THE LEADER
OF THE FAR RIGHT ANTI-IMMIGRANT
LEAGUE PARTY DECLARING VICTORY
AFTER THE
ELECTION IN ITALY BUT WHO WILL
ACTUALLY FORM GOVERNMENT IS
STILL FAR FROM CLEAR AS NO PARTY
SECURED ENOUGH VOTES TO LEAD.
WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT
YESTERDAY'S VOTE WAS A BIG WIN
FOR ITALY'S ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT
POPULIST PROTEST PARTIES.
TOGETHER THEY TOOK MORE THAN 50%
OF THE VOTE.
THEY HAVE A SHARED SKEPTICISM
OF THE EUROPEAN UNION AND WHAT
ITALIAN VOTERS JUST DID
WILL SEND SHOCK WAVES THROUGH
IT.
THESE DAYS WHERE THERE'S
TENSIONS AND DIVISIONS THERE'S
CONCERNS HOW FOREIGN ACTORS
EXPLOIT THEM.
THE MOST PROMINENT -- RUSSIA.
THE U.S. SPECIAL COUNSEL
INVESTIGATING THE 2016 ELECTION
OF DONALD TRUMP RECENTLY
INDICTED 13 RUSSIANS LINKED TO
THIS NONDESCRIPT BUILDING IN
ST. PETERSBURG.
IT HOUSED THE INTERNET RESEARCH
AGENCY, A SO-CALLED TROLL
FACTORY.
FROM THERE THEY ALLEGEDLY
CONDUCTED A MULTIYEAR EFFORT
ONLINE TO SHAPE OPINION, DIVIDE
AMERICANS, AND ULTIMATELY TO
HELP DONALD TRUMP.
WELL, FORMER TROLLS ARE SPEAKING
OUT SAYING THAT WAS JUST ONE
OPERATION AMONG MANY TARGETING
POLITICS BOTH WITHIN AND BEYOND
RUSSIA'S BORDERS.
SOME OF THEM SPOKE WITH THE
CBC'S CHRIS BROWN.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: ST. PETERSBURG'S
NOTORIOUS TROLL FACTORY IS
FINALLY GIVING UP ITS SECRETS
THANKS TO A FEW FORMER BRAVE
WORKERS.
SUCH AS VITALI.
200 PEOPLE?
>> MOST...
>> Reporter: THE 26-YEAR-OLD
JOURNALISM GRAD BECAME A TROLL
BY ACCIDENT.
IN LATE 2014 WHEN HE ANSWERED AN
AD AT THE INTERNET RESEARCH
AGENCY.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: I FIGURED OUT
EARLY THAT THE MAIN GOAL WAS TO
CREATE A PICTURE OF THE WORLD ON
THE INTERNET THAT MIRRORED WHAT
WAS BEING SHOWN ON RUSSIAN
TELEVISION.
HE WAS PUT ON THE UKRAINE DESK.
HE WAS PUT ON THE UKRAINE DESK.
RUSSIA'S COVERT SUPPORT FOR
REBELS IN EASTERN UKRAINE WAS
UNDERWAY SO ANYTHING THAT MADE
UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT SOLDIERS TO
LOOK BACK WAS A PRIORITY,
ESPECIALLY STORIES ABOUT DEAD
CHILDREN.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: WE SAW A NEWS
STORY THAT SOME MILITIAMEN WERE
HIDING IN THE SCHOOL IN DONETSK
AND IT WAS
BEING SHELLED AND SOME CHILDREN
DIED.
THE FACTS WERE UNCLEAR, HE SAYS,
BUT THAT DIDN'T MATTER.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: WE SIMPLY TOOK
THE NEWS STORIES AND WROTE THAT
THE UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS HOT AND
KILLED THE CHILDREN, THAT'S IT,
NO HESITATION.
HE SPENT THREE MONTHS AS A TROLL
IN EARLY 2015 UNDER THE FAKE
NAME "IVAN POUTKIN" AND HE WAS
TO REBUTT CRITICAL STORIES ABOUT
THE KREMLIN.
WHAT KINDS OF THINGS WERE THEY
ASKING TO YOU WRITE, THINGS THAT
APPLAUDED THE UNITED STATES?
OR THINGS THAT APPLAUDED RUSSIA?
>> RUSSIA, OF COURSE, AND,
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S THE HORROR
TO HATE AMERICA.
>> Reporter: THE PAY WAS GOOD,
HE SAYS, $1,000 CANADIAN A
MONTH, BUT HE SAID THAT IT WAS
SOUL DESTROYING SO HE LEFT AFTER
THREE MONTHS.
>> IT WAS NOT CRIMINAL IN THE
TERMS OF THE LAW.
IT WAS CRIMINAL IN THE TERMS OF
THE MORALS.
>> Reporter: SINCE HE HAS
SPOKEN OUT HE'S BEEN DETAINED BY
POLICE.
AND WHILE HE'S HAD RIDICULE ON
RUSSIAN STATE TV.
HE WAS PORTRAYED AS A HARD
PARTYING OPPOSITION SUPPORTER,
NOT WORTH LISTENING TO.
HE SAYS THAT HE IS SPEAKING OUT
HOPING THAT SUCH FAKE NEWS
FACTORIES WILL BE SHUTDOWN.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: I DIDN'T LIKE THE
ATMOSPHERE OF LIES AND
DISTORTION.
I SEE THIS IN RUSSIA AND I DON'T
LIKE IT.
IN ST. PETERSBURG OUR CBC CREW
STOPPED BY THE TROLL FACTORY.
THE SECURITY GUARD WASN'T HAPPY.
HE TOLD US NOT TO COME BACK.
MOST WORKERS CLEARED OUT A FEW
MONTHS AGO.
RUSSIAN MEDIA HAVE REPORTED THAT
THEY HAVE RELOCATED TO A NEW
SITE.
BOTH MEN WERE GONE LONG BEFORE
THE ALLEGED U.S. ELECTION
TAMPERING BUT BOTH ALSO SAY THAT
THEY'RE SURE SUCH MEDDLING IS
STILL GOING ON.
CHRIS BROWN, CBC NEWS,
ST. PETERSBURG.
>> Rosemary: THAT WAS
FASCINATING.
STILL AHEAD ON "THE NATIONAL,"
FRANCES McDORMAND PICKED UP AN
OSCAR AND DROPPED TWO
WORDS THAT LEFT THE AUDIENCE
APPLAUDING AND A LITTLE BIT
CONFUSED.
SO WHAT IS AN INCLUSION RIDER?
>> Adrienne: AND ON "THE
NATIONAL DOCUMENTARY," HOW
CANADA'S
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM FAILS REMOTE
COMMUNITIES.
EVEN A COMMON ALLERGY IS THAT
MUCH MORE RISKY FOR A CHILD IN
THE NORTH.
>> WE DON'T LET HIM GO ANYWHERE
OR TO VISIT OTHER PEOPLE'S HOMES
BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE TIME THAT
IT TAKES FOR MEDICAL HELP TO GET
HERE.
>> Reporter: SO YOU DON'T LET
YOUR SON TO GO TO ANY OTHER
(*)
>> YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I VIEW MY
ROLE AS A PHYSICIAN SOMETIMES
AS -- TO MINIMIZE THE HARM THAT
THE SYSTEM IS AUTOMATICALLY
DOING TO PEOPLE.
>> Adrienne: DOCTORS TAKE AN
OATH TO DO NO HARM SO IMAGINE
HOW IT MUST FEEL TO WORK IN A
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM THAT IS SO
LIMITED THAT IT SEEMS TO BE
HURTING YOUR PATIENTS.
DR. MIKE KIRLEW WORKS IN THE
NORTH, AND NICK PURDON FLEW
ALONG WITH THE DOCTOR TO SEE HOW
THE CARE FALLS SHORT.
>> THERE ARE TIMES WHEN A
PATIENT MIGHT PASS AWAY BECAUSE
OF, YOU KNOW, A LACK OF ACCESS
TO CERTAIN SERVICES.
IT'S HARD TO WITNESS CHILDREN
BEING DENIED CARE.
YOU SOMETIMES GO TO BED AT NIGHT
AND YOU
WONDER HOW CAN I FUNCTION IN A
SYSTEM LIKE THAT, A SYSTEM THAT
IS FOCUSED TO DENY CARE?
IT CAN CAUSE YOU TO GIVE UP
HOPE.
>> Reporter: MEET DR. MIKE
KIRLEW, A FAMILY PHYSICIAN IN
ONTARIO AND ONE OF THE FEW
DOCTORS WHO
WORKS IN THE TINY FLY-IN
COMMUNITIES IN THE NORTHERNMOST
PART OF THE PROVINCE.
FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS HE'S BEEN
FIGHTING A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM
THAT HE SAYS ACTUALLY HURTS HIS
PATIENTS.
BUT THIS IS CANADA.
WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST HEALTH
CARE IN THE WORLD AND IT'S FOR
EVERYBODY, NO MATTER WHAT,
RIGHT?
OR IS THAT JUST SOMETHING THAT
WE LIKE TO TELL OURSELVES?
SIOUX LOOKOUT, ONTARIO, A TOWN
OF 5,000 AND A MEDICAL HUB FOR
THE REGION.
IF YOU LIVE IN THE NORTHERNMOST
PART OF THE PROVINCE AND YOU GET
SICK, THIS IS ONE OF THE PLACES
THAT YOU COME.
IT'S ALSO HOME BASE FOR
DR. KIRLEW.
>> HEY, HOW ARE YOU DOING?
HOW WAS IT SINCE HE LAST GOT
SICK AND STUFF?
>> Reporter: DR. KIRLEW'S
FIRST PATIENT TODAY IS BERNICE
BOYCE.
SHE'S BROUGHT HER 14-YEAR-OLD
SON, JOSHUA, TO SEE HIM IN PART
FOR HIS ASTHMA.
>> HE'S NOT COUGHING AS MUCH AS
BEFORE?
IS HE TAKING THE PURPLE
PUFFER --
>> Reporter: FOR THIS
APPOINTMENT TO HAPPEN, FOR
JOSHUA TO GET THE MEDICAL HELP
THAT HE NEEDS, HE AND HIS MOM
HAD
TO GET ON A PLANE AND TRAVEL 500
KILOMETRES SOUTH OF THEIR
COMMUNITY.
>> WHEN WE WERE BACK HOME WE
DIDN'T EVEN SLEEP FOR THREE
NIGHTS STRAIGHT.
HE'D WAKE UP COUGHING AND
STRUGGLING TO BREATHE AND IT WAS
REALLY RISKY FOR HIM TO BE THERE
BECAUSE OF HIS ASTHMA.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BACK
HOME.
AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE.
>> Reporter: THE THING IS THAT
IT'S NOT JUST JOSHUA AND BERNICE
WHO HAD TO LEAVE THEIR HOME TO
GET HEALTH CARE.
SO DID EVERY PERSON HERE.
THIS IS A 100-BED FACILITY
ATTACHED TO THE HOSPITAL IN
SIOUX LOOKOUT AND IT'S WHERE
PATIENTS FROM THE NORTHERN
COMMUNITIES FLY IN AND STAY.
THE BEDS ARE FULL, THEY'RE
ALMOST ALWAYS FULL.
>> I HAVE BEEN STAYING HERE IN
THE
HOSPITAL FOR THE LAST 18 MONTHS
NOW.
>> Reporter: 18 MONTHS IN THIS
ROOM, ALONE.
MEET STEPHAN FIDDLER FROM
BEARSKIN LAKE.
>> I'M ON DIALYSIS AND ALSO I'M
GOING BLIND.
SO I NEED SOME HELP WHILE I'M
HERE.
AND I LEFT MY FAMILY IN BEARSKIN
WHICH IS VERY HARD TO DO.
VERY LONELY, IT'S VERY LONELY
HERE AND I MISS FAMILY AND I
MISS THINGS THAT I USED TO DO.
>> Reporter: HOW DOES THAT
MAKE YOU FEEL THAT YOU HAD TO
LEAVE?
>> THIS IS CANADA AND I THINK
THAT ALL CANADIANS SHOULD GET
THE SAME SERVICES AS PEOPLE THAT
LIVE DOWN SOUTH.
>> Reporter: STEPHAN IS IN AN
IMPOSSIBLE SITUATION.
IF HE GOES HOME TO HIS COMMUNITY
HE'LL LIKELY DIE.
AND YET IN A WAY HE'S ACTUALLY
ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES.
SURE, THE HOSPITAL IS AS BUSY AS
AN AIRPORT BUT NOT EVERYONE WHO
GETS SICK IN THE NORTHERN
COMMUNITIES EVEN GETS TO COME
HERE.
DOCTORS HAVE TO REQUEST COVERAGE
FOR THEIR PATIENTS AND THE
GOVERNMENT DECIDES WHO GETS TO
TRAVEL.
MAKES YOU WONDER, IF NOT
EVERYONE GETS TO COME HERE
WHAT'S THE SITUATION IN THE
COMMUNITIES FARTHER NORTH?
>> I LOVE GOING OUT THERE.
>> Reporter: THE NEXT DAY
DR. KIRLEW FLIES THE 500
KILOMETRES NORTH TO WAPEKEKA
WHERE HE'S BEEN WORKING FOR 10
YEARS.
YOU LOOK OUT THE WINDOW AND YOU
CAN SEE HOW REMOTE IT IS.
THIS PART OF NORTHERN ONTARIO IS
THE SIZE OF FRANCE WITH 45,000
PEOPLE SCATTERED IN TINY
INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES, MANY OF
THEM YOU CAN ONLY GET TO BY
PLANE.
IF YOU GET SICK IN WAPEKEKA YOU
COME HERE, TO THE NURSING
STATION.
YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO MAKE YOUR
OWN WAY, OF COURSE, THERE IS NO
AMBULANCE.
THERE'S ALSO NO X-RAY MACHINE OR
ULTRASOUND EITHER.
>> CAN I GET A HIGH-FIVE?
ALL RIGHT.
>> Reporter: THERE'S ONLY A
DOCTOR HERE FOR ABOUT A WEEK
EVERY MONTH.
3-YEAR-OLD CHASE IS DR. KIRLEW'S
FIRST PATIENT OF THE DAY.
>> HOW IS OUR MAN DOING TODAY?
>> HE JUST WOKE UP.
HE'S SICK RIGHT NOW.
>> OH, BOY, FEELING PRETTY SICK?
>> Reporter: TODAY CHASE IS
HERE FOR HIS RASH BUT WHAT HIS
DAD JASON BAXTER IS REALLY
STRESSED ABOUT IS HIS SON'S
RECENT ALLERGY ATTACK.
>> HE ALMOST DIED IN THUNDER
BAY.
>> I KNOW, I KNOW.
>> IT WAS A GOOD THING THAT HE
WAS IN TOWN WHEN IT HAPPENED AND
NOT UP HERE.
SO NOW HE WALKS AROUND WITH AN
EPI PEN WHEREVER HE GOES.
>> Reporter: IN WAPEKEKA A
SIMPLE PEANUT ALLERGY IS A BIG
DEAL.
WHAT IF THERE'S NO MEDICATION?
DR. KIRLEW SAYS THEY HAVE RUN
OUT
BEFORE.
AND IF THERE'S ANY COMPLICATIONS
MAYBE HELP DOESN'T COME IN TIME.
>> IF HE HAD HAD THAT HERE HE
WOULD HAVE DIED.
>> Reporter: WHAT IS IT LIKE
TO LIVE HERE?
>> WE DON'T LET HIM GO ANYWHERE
AND HE DOESN'T VISIT OTHER
PEOPLE'S HOMES JUST BECAUSE OF
THAT.
IN CASE SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN
OVER THERE BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE
TIME THAT IT TAKES FOR MEDICAL
HELP TO GET HERE.
>> Reporter: SO YOU DON'T LET
YOUR SON TO GO TO ANY OTHER
HOUSE IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE
OF HIS ALLERGIES?
>> HE HAS TO STAY AT HOME AND
NO, NOW THAT WE KNOW WE DON'T
WANT
TO TAKE THAT CHANCE OF SENDING
HIM OVER THERE.
>> ONE MORE HIGH-FIVE OKAY?
>> YOU TAKE CARE, ALL RIGHT?
>> Reporter: AT THE END OF THE
DAY WHAT REALLY HITS HOME ARE
THE DIFFICULTIES THAT PEOPLE
HAVE GETTING TREATMENT FOR
EVERYDAY CONCERNS.
THIS IS JAELA, SHE'S 7.
SHE'S FALLING BEHIND AT SCHOOL
AND HER MOM IS JUST TRYING TO
GET HER SPEECH THERAPY.
>> HI, JAELA, HOW ARE YOU DOING
TODAY?
YOU DOING GOOD?
HOW IS SCHOOL GOING?
>> Reporter: BUT SPEECH
THERAPY BASICALLY DOESN'T EXIST
HERE.
>> THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM IN OUR
REGION IS JUST GETTING KIDS
ACCESS TO THOSE SERVICES AND
EVEN WHEN WE DO WE CAN ONLY GET
THEM ONCE AND IT'S VERY
DIFFICULT TO GET THINGS ON AN
ONGOING BASIS.
BUT WE'LL TRY OUR BEST AND I'LL
TRY ANOTHER LETTER AND SEE WHAT
WE CAN DO.
GIVE ME A HIGH-FIVE, AND YOU
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK IN SCHOOL,
OKAY?
>> Reporter: DR. KIRLEW SAYS
HE'S ALREADY
WRITTEN SEVERAL LETTERS TRYING
TO GET THERAPY FOR JAELA.
THAT'S THE THING I WAPEKEKA IS
AS MUCH AN ADVOCATE AS A DOCTOR.
ON MOST DAYS HE TYPES LETTERS
MORE THAN HE USES HIS
STETHOSCOPE.
ONE OF THE REALITIES OF LIFE FOR
A NORTHERN DOCTOR IS THAT YOU
WORK, SLEEP AND EAT AT THE
NURSING STATION.
>> I WONDER HOW COLD IT IS OUT
THERE.
>> THEY'RE SAYING ABOUT -23°.
>> Reporter: ON THIS MORNING
DR. KIRLEW IS JOINED BY SAW.
SAW'S OFFICIAL TITLE IS HEALTH
ADVISOR FOR THE NISHNAWBE ASKI
NATION.
AND IT'S HIS JOB TO IMPROVE THE
HEALTH
CARE OF HIS PEOPLE.
>> HOW MANY PERSONS WILL YOU SEE
TODAY?
>> PROBABLY 20 OR SO.
>> Reporter: SAW IS IN
WAPEKEKA TO PICK DR. KIRLEW'S
BRAIN ABOUT HOW THINGS
ARE GOING ON THE GROUND.
>> WE SAW SO MANY PARENTS BRING
IN THEIR CHILDREN LOOKING FOR
ACCESSING DEVELOPMENTAL
SERVICES, RIGHT?
THESE SERVICES COULD FLY INTO
THE COMMUNITY AND THOSE THINGS
ARE ALL POSSIBLE, RIGHT?
>> WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT.
>> Reporter: SAW GREW UP IN
KING FISHER LAKE ABOUT 50
KILOMETRES AWAY FROM HERE.
AND SO HE KNOWS FIRSTHAND THE
CHALLENGES IN THE REGION.
FRESH ON HIS MIND ARE THE THREE
RECENT SUICIDES IN WAPEKEKA.
HE POINTS OUT THAT IT'S NOT JUST
BASIC MEDICAL NEEDS THAT ARE
LACKING, IT'S MENTAL HEALTH
SUPPORT AS WELL.
>> WHEN YOU HEAR OF A YOUNG
GIRL, BOY, 11, 12 YEARS OLD
DYING BY SUICIDE IT JUST PUSHES
YOU TO MAKE MORE CHANGE, BRING
CHANGE FOR OUR PEOPLE.
WE CANNOT GIVE UP, CANNOT.
>> Reporter: WHAT DON'T PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND ABOUT HEALTH CARE IN
YOUR COMMUNITIES?
>> I HEAR A LOT OF, YOU KNOW,
THE HEALTH CARE IS BROKEN.
WHEN YOU ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT IT
IT'S NOT BROKEN, IT IS, IN FACT,
DOING EXACTLY THE WAY THAT IT'S
BEEN DESIGNED TO WHICH IS TO
DIMINISH THE RIGHTS OF OUR
PEOPLE, THE HEALTH OF OUR
PEOPLE, AND SOMETIMES I'LL EVEN
GO AS FAR AS SAYING THAT THE
SYSTEM IS KILLING OUR PEOPLE.
>> Reporter: SAW IS ALSO HERE
TO TALK TO PATIENTS WHO VISIT
THE CLINIC.
DR. JOHN MCKAY HAS HIS IMPORTANT
WITH DR. KIRLEW AND SAW WALKS
HIM HOME.
SAW ACKNOWLEDGES THAT IT WON'T
BE EASY TO FIX THE HEALTH CARE
PROBLEMS HERE AND THOUGH THE
PROVINCIAL AND FEDERAL
GOVERNMENTS HAVE INCREASED
FUNDING IN RECENT YEARS, SAW
SAYS THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER.
>> IT'S NOT JUST INCREMENTAL
CHANGES AND IT'S NOT ADDING
MONEY TO THE EXISTING
PROGRAMMES.
INCREMENTAL CHANGE PERPETUATES
THE CRISIS IN OUR COMMUNITIES SO
WE NEED TO DISMANTLE THE SYSTEM
AND REBUILD IT UP FROM THE
COMMUNITY UP.
>> Reporter: SAW IS HOPEFUL
THAT THAT IS POSSIBLE.
THIS PAST SUMMER THE PROVINCIAL
AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS ALONG
WITH THE GRAND CHIEF SIGNED AN
AGREEMENT IN PRINCIPLE TO GIVE
HEALTH CARE HERE OVER TO
INDIGENOUS CONTROL.
THEN THE DAY ENDS AND AS I CATCH
UP WITH DR. KIRLEW AGAIN OFF TO
MAKE A HOUSE CALL, THE REALITY
ON THE GROUND HITS HARD.
>> HI.
HI...
>> Reporter: CHANGE CAN'T COME
FAST ENOUGH FOR DONNY AND ELSIE
BROWN.
>> THAT'S GOOD.
ARMS OUT LIKE I THIS, THAT'S GOOD.
>> Reporter: DONNY HAD A
STROKE FOUR YEARS AGO.
>> HOW DO YOU FIND THAT DONNY
HAS BEEN DOING?
>> WELL, THE RIGHT SIDE, HE
CAN'T FEEL AND HE GETS COLD
TOES.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
ON THAT RIGHT SIDE AND STUFF,
YEAH?
BECAUSE THAT'S THE SIDE THAT WAS
WEAKER AFTER THE ANEURYSM.
>> Reporter: IN THE FOUR YEARS
SINCE HIS STROKE DONNY HAS ONLY
HAD
ONE SINGLE REHAB APPOINTMENT --
ONE.
SO HE'S NOT GETTING ANY BETTER.
>> AND YOU KNOW, HE HAS --
>> I DON'T SEE --
>> YEAH, YEAH.
>> I CAN'T SEE YOU.
>> WHEN YOU LOOK OVER -- YEAH,
YEAH.
DO YOU GET A LOT OF HELP?
>> NO, IT'S JUST ME AND MY
GIRLS.
>> I WISH I COULD, YOU KNOW,
PROVIDE SOME HOMECARE, YOU KNOW,
BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING
THAT PEOPLE WOULD GET DOWN SOUTH
IS SOMEONE TO HELP, YOU KNOW,
BECAUSE HE NEEDS A LOT OF
ASSISTANCE.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT
KIND OF SERVICE.
>> UM-HMM.
>> SO, YEAH.
>> Reporter: DO YOU THINK THAT
YOU HELPED PEOPLE TODAY?
>> YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THIS
PHRASE IN MEDICINE CALLED THE
HIPPOCRATIC OATH, RIGHT, TO DO
NO HARM.
AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I VIEW
MY ROLE AS A PHYSICIAN SOMETIMES
AS -- TO MINIMIZE THE HARM THAT
THE SYSTEM IS AUTOMATICALLY
DOING TO PEOPLE.
SO MAYBE I'M A HARM MINIMIZER.
>> Reporter: DO YOU EVER KIND
OF FORGET THAT THIS ISN'T
NORMAL?
>> I THINK THAT IS A REAL
TEMPTATION, RIGHT?
YOU CAN -- YOU FORGET WHAT
NORMAL IS, YOU HAVE TO REMIND
YOURSELF WHAT NORMAL IS.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF THE
FIGHT OR THAT'S PART OF THE
BATTLE.
JUST NOT SUCCUMBING TO THE
STATUS QUO, RIGHT, CONTINUING TO
FIGHT, YOU KNOW?
YOU KNOW, YOU SEE PEOPLE THAT
WILL TELL YOU WE MAY BE DOWN NOW
BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE UP AGAIN
AND THEY CAN TELL YOU AND SAY,
DON'T GIVE UP.
THAT'S STRENGTH.
MY PATIENTS ARE WAY STRONGER
THAN I AM.
WAY STRONGER.
>> Adrienne: THAT'S SOMETHING.
IF YOU WANT TO HEAR MORE FROM
DR. KIRLEW AND THE CHALLENGES OF
HIS WORK IN NORTHERN ONTARIO WE
HAVE AN EXTENDED IN-DEPTH
CONVERSATION
WITH HIM ON OUR YouTube
CHANNEL.
>> Andrew: INCREDIBLE STORY.
CONVERSATION
WITH HIM ON OUR YouTube
CHANNEL.
>> Andrew: INCREDIBLE STORY.
STILL TO COME THIS HOUR, TOO BAD
THEY DON'T GIVE OSCARS FOR BEST
STAND-IN.
LAST NIGHT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
FOR CANADA FOR PLAYING 1964
BALTIMORE.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE CREW WHO
ARE DEPARTING R
>> I HAVE TWO WORDS TO LEAVE
WITH YOU TONIGHT, LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, "INCLUSION RIDER."
>> Rosemary: BEST ACTRESS
WINNER FRANCES McDORMAND LEFT
THE AUDIENCE, WELL, A LITTLE BIT
CONFUSED.
BUT AT LEAST ONE VIEWER AT HOME
KNEW WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT
AND TODAY OUR KIM BRUNHUBER MET
UP WITH HER TO LEARN MORE ABOUT
AN IDEA THAT SUDDENLY IS A
HOLLYWOOD HIT.
[Applause]
>> Reporter: SEEING IT AGAIN
NOW STILL BRINGS A SMILE TO
STACY SMITH'S FACE.
>> IT'S AMAZING TO RE-WATCH
THAT.
>> Reporter: THE ACADEMY
AWARDS HAD BEEN PRETTY BORING,
SHE SAYS, UNTIL FRANCES
McDORMAND TOOK THE STAGE AND
UTTERED THE PHRASE --
>> "INCLUSION RIDER."
>> THAT MOMENT I REALISED THAT'S
ME!
THAT'S MY TEAM!
>> WHAT IF THOSE A-LISTERS HAD
HAD AN
EQUITY CLAUSE OR AN INCLUSION
RIDER --
>> Reporter: A COUPLE YEARS
AGO SHE INVENTED THE IDEA OF A
"INCLUSION RIDER" TO DEMAND THAT
CASTING AND HIRING ON
PRODUCTIONS INCLUDES A CERTAIN
NUMBER OF WOMEN, MINORITIES AND
PEOPLE FROM THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.
IT HAD BEEN A FAIRLY UNKNOWN
CONCEPT UNTIL THE SPEECH THAT
LAUNCHED A MILLION GOOGLE
SEARCHES.
BACKSTAGE FRANCES McDORMAND
SAYS EVEN SHE HAD NEVER HEARD OF
THE TERM UNTIL LAST WEEK.
>> SO THE WHOLE IDEA OF WOMEN
TRENDING -- NO.
NO TRENDING.
AFRICAN AMERICANS TRENDING?
NO, NO TRENDING.
IT CHANGES NOW.3
>> SO THE WHOLE IDEA OF WOMEN
TRENDING -- NO.
NO TRENDING.
AFRICAN AMERICANS TRENDING?
NO, NO TRENDING.
IT CHANGES NOW.
AND I THINK THAT THE "INCLUSION
RIDER" WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO DO
WITH THAT, RIGHT?
POWER AND RULES.
>> Reporter: ALREADY SEVERAL
HIGH-PROFILE HOLLYWOOD PLAYERS
LIKE BREE LARSEN AND ASHLEY JUDD
AND ELIZABETH BANKS
SAY THEY'RE ON BOARD.
>> RIGHT NOW THERE'S AN
INVISIBLE QUOTA IN HOLLYWOOD AND
IT'S CALLED THE STRAIGHT WHITE
ABLE-BODIED MALE AND YOU'RE IN
-- YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT WE SEE
THAT
INVISIBLE QUOTA AT WORK.
WHEN THE PERCENTAGE OF FEMALES
ON SCREEN HASN'T CHANGED IN OVER
60 YEARS --
>> Reporter: THIS CANADIAN
FILM CRITIC SAYS THAT THERE'S NO
REASON THAT SUCH A RIDER
COULDN'T WORK ON BOTH SIDES OF
THE BORDER.
>> CANADA THERE'S A MANDATE
THAT 50% OF THE PROJECTS THEY'RE
FUNDING MUST HAVE A WOMAN IN A
POWER POSITION, EITHER A WRITER
OR DIRECTOR OR PRODUCER.
SO IT'S PART OF HOW FILMS ARE
FUNDED IN THIS COUNTRY NOW.
>> Reporter: SMITH SAYS THAT
AS FAR AS SHE'S AWARE THERE'S
ONLY BEEN ONE CASE OF AN
INCLUSION RIDER BEING ADOPTED,
ONE WHICH YET HASN'T BEEN MADE
PUBLIC BUT
THAT MAY SOON CHANGE.
>> ACTORS IN UNISON, THEY
EMBRACE THIS AS I SAID AND THIS
COULD CREATE A SHIFT ALMOST
OVERNIGHT.
>> Reporter: IN THE WORDS OF
McDORMAND, POWER INTO RULES.
KIM BRUNHUBER, CBC NEWS, LOS
ANGELES.
>> Rosemary: IN CASE THERE'S
ANY DOUBT THAT MORE DIVERSITY IS
NEEDED IN HOLLYWOOD, STACY SMITH
PROVIDED THE STATS.
OF THE TOP 100 FILMS IN 2016, 47
HAD NO BLACK FEMALE SPEAKING
CHARACTERS ON SCREEN.
AND 66 FOE ASIANS AND UPON 2 NO
LATINA AND MORE THAN
90 HAD NO WOMEN WHO IDENTIFY AS
LGBT.
ONE OF THE OTHER BIG STORYLINES
FROM THE OSCARS, CANADIANS DOING
OUR THING!
>> Adrienne: YOU BET, ROSIE.
LAST NIGHT'S BIG WEIR WINNER
"THE SHAPE OF WATER" OWES ITS
SUCCESS IN NO SMALL WAY TO
CANADA.
SEE IT WAS SHOT IN ONTARIO NOT
JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT THIS
PROVINCE LOOKS LIKE OR
NECESSARILY THE TAX BREAKS THAT
DRAW THE CREWS HERE BUT IN PART
BECAUSE OF DIGITAL DETAILING
THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO HAPPEN
ANYWHERE ELSE.
>> FIRST OF ALL THANKS TO THE
CANADIAN CREW THAT ARE PROBABLY
PARTYING RIGHT NOW IN TORONTO.
THIS IS FOR YOU.
>> Adrienne: CANADIANS WERE
ALL OVER THE OSCARS "THE SHAPE
OF WATER" EMPLOYED MORE THAN
1500 PEOPLE FROM ONTARIO WORKING
IN DEVELOPMENT TO
POST-PRODUCTION.
A FIERCE COMMITMENT TO CANADA BY
A FIERCE CHAMPION OF THE
INDUSTRY.
>> THIS IS NOT A MOVIE THAT
COMES TO TORONTO FOR A REBATE
AND USES IT AND GETS THE FUCK
OUT OF THERE.
>> Reporter: GUILLERMO DEL
TORO IS A CREATOR OF UNIVERSES
SO IT WAS UP TO CANADIANS TO
HELP TO TRANSFORM THE CITIES
LIKE TORONTO OR HAMILTON TO THE
WORLDS THAT LIVE IN HIS MIND.
A PLACE WHERE THE REAL MASSEY
HALL BECOMES THE IMAGINED
ORPHEUM.
>> WE HAD TO BUILD A FAKE
MAR CUE AND MR. X, THE DIGITAL
EFFECTS COMPANY, HAD ADDED THE
UPPER
SIGNAGE.
MR. X, VISUAL EFFECTS, DID A
SIGN ON THE OUTSIDE AND DID A
BEAUTIFUL JOB OF PAINTING A
1960s STREET FOR US.
>> OVERALL THERE WERE 60 SHOTS
AND SO IT WOUND UP AN HOUR OF
SCREEN TIME THAT WE CONTRIBUTED
TO THE MOVIE.
>> Adrienne: EVEN THOUGH THE
PEOPLE AT MR. X DIDN'T GET
NOMINATED FOR VISUAL EFFECTS
THEY'RE STILL PROUD THAT
CANADIANS AT ALL LEVELS HELPED
THE MOVIE TO RISE ABOVE ALL
OTHERS MUCH.
>> NOW, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY ON
THE BACK OF "SHAPE OF WATER"
WHERE YOU SEE THAT ALL OF THE
DEPARTMENT HEADS FROM TORONTO,
FROM CANADA, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
DELIVER THE BEST PICTURE OF THE
YEAR, WE'RE DEFINITELY SHOWING
THAT THE TALENT IS HERE AND
THERE'S A BIG POOL OF IT ACROSS
ALL DEPARTMENTS AND THE LEVEL OF
SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE IS WORLD
CLASS.
>> Adrienne: AND ODD MAYBE
THAT BY ERASING CANADA FROM THE
FILM THE COMPANY MAY HAVE JUST
ENDED UP MARKING CANADA AS ONE
OF THE BEST PLACES FOR VISUAL
EFFECTS.
>> ODD THOUGH THAT THE RATINGS
FOR LAST NIGHT'S CEREMONY
WEREN'T ANYTHING TO CELEBRATE.
IN THE U.S. IT WAS AT AN
ALL-TIME LOW AND THE CANADIAN
AUDIENCE ALSO DIPPED FROM LAST
YEAR.
STILL AHEAD, THE WANNA-BE OSCAR
WINNER THAT THE TV AUDIENCE DID
NOT SEE AND FOR VERY GOOD
REASON.
>> WHAT'S UP, EVERYBODY?
LOOK, I GOT THIS.
IT'S MINE!
WOO!
(*)
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[wind howling]
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>> This is the longest
relationship you've ever had!
>> I say you invite Patrick over
and have a good old fashioned
Rose family barbecue.
>> I think we're good here.
(*)
>> WE KNOW THIS IS NOT A
SPONTANEOUS ACT COMMITTED BY
THESE PEOPLE.
THIS WAS VERY WELL PLANNED.
WE ARE INVESTIGATING THE
POSSIBILITY THAT THERE ARE
PEOPLE FROM THE OUTSIDE OF THIS
COMMUNITY THAT COMMITTED THESE
ACTS.
>> Andrew: TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL," POLICE SAY THAT
THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT WHO WAS BEHIND SATURDAY
NIGHT'S VANDALISM SPREE IN
HAMILTON, ONTARIO.
SEVERAL BUSINESSES HAD THEIR
WINDOWS SMASHED AND VEHICLES
WERE DAMAGED BY A MASKED MOB OF
ABOUT 30 PEOPLE.
THE DAMAGE IS PEGGED AT OVER
$100,000.
THEY WERE CARRYING A BANNER THAT
READ "WE ARE THE UNGOVERNABLES,"
NOT A SINGLE PERSON IN THE GROUP
HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AND POLICE
ARE CALLING ON ANYONE WITH
INFORMATION TO COME FORWARD.
>>> NEW GUIDELINES COULD CHANGE
THE WAY THAT OPIOID ADDICTION IS
TREATED RIGHT ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
PUBLISHED TODAY IN "THE CANADIAN
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION JOURNAL,"
A NETWORK OF DOCTORS RECOMMEND
TO INCREASE AN ACCESS TO A
SYNTHETIC OPIOID LIKE METHADONE
BUT LESS ADDICTIVE AND WITH
FEWER SIDE EFFECTS.
SO THOSE DOCTORS BELIEVE THAT
IT SHOULD BE THE FIRST LINE
TREATMENT.
>>> AND PARTS OF SOUTHERN
MANITOBA WERE DIGGING OUT TODAY
AFTER A LATE SEASON SNOWSTORM.
IN SOME COMMUNITIES AS MANY AS
30 CENTIMETRES OF THICK, WET
SNOW FELL TO THE GROUND AND THAT
CAUSED TROUBLE RIGHT ACROSS THE
REGION.
AT ONE POINT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
WERE WITHOUT POWER, A NUMBER OF
FLIGHTS OUT OF WINNIPEG WERE
CANCELLED AND ROADS AND SCHOOLS
IN THE HARDEST HIT AREAS WERE
CLOSED.
>> Rosemary: WINTER NEVER ENDS
IN WINNIPEG, THAT'S WHY.
AS WE SHOWED YOU EARLIER IT WAS
A GREAT OSCAR NIGHT FOR FRANCES
McDORMAND AND SHE WAS OUT
CELEBRATING AT THE GOVERNOR'S
BALL AND THAT IS UNTIL HER OSCAR
WENT MISSING.
AND THE MAN BEHIND
THE THEFT, TERRY BRYANT, SEEMED
TO HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH UNTIL
HE TOOK TO FACEBOOK TO POST A
VIDEO OF HIMSELF AND OSCAR FOR
THE WHOLE WORLD TO SEE AND THAT
IS OUR "MOMENT OF THE DAY."
>> WHAT'S UP, EVERYBODY, LOOK, I
GOT THIS, IT'S MINE!
WOO!
(*)
THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
I'M ABOUT TO GO TO SO MANY
PARTIES.
>> YOU CAN HAVE YOUR TICKET TO
ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO GO TO.
>> ACADEMY AWARD, BABY, FOR
MUSIC.
POP BEST PRODUCER.
>> REALLY?
>> GET OUT OF HERE!
REALLY?
LOOK AT THAT, HELLO!
THIS IS THE REAL DEAL RIGHT
HERE.
>> Rosemary: I DON'T HAVE
ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT, AND
I'LL SAY THIS, ACCORDING TO THE
LAPD, A 47-YEAR-OLD MAN WAS
ARRESTED AND BOOKED ON SUSPICION
OF GRAND THEFT FOR ALLEGEDLY
STEALING AN OSCAR BUT THE POLICE
WOULDN'T CONFIRM THAT IT WAS
McDORMAND'S.
>> Adrienne: THIS GUY APPEARS
TO BE A REGULAR AT AWARD SHOWS
AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S INVITED
OR CRASHES THEM BUT HE'S BEEN AT
THE GRAMMIES AND THE S.A.G.
AWARDS AND THE MTV MUSIC AWARDS,
HE'S EVERYWHERE.
>> Andrew: APPARENTLY THOUGH,
THIS IS THE KICKER HERE,
McDORMAND HAD HER NAME
ENGRAVED ON THE OSCAR
BEFORE IT WAS STOLEN SO YOU HAVE
TO FIGURE THAT THE JIG WOULD
HAVE BEEN UP EVENTUALLY, IT'S
JUST A MATTER OF TIME, OF
TO FIGURE THAT THE JIG WOULD
HAVE BEEN UP EVENTUALLY, IT'S
JUST A MATTER OF TIME, OF
COURSE, SHE DID GET HER OSCAR
BACK IN THE END SO ALL IS WELL
BEFORE IT WAS STOLEN SO YOU HAVE
TO FIGURE THAT THE JIG WOULD
HAVE BEEN UP EVENTUALLY, IT'S
JUST A MATTER OF TIME, OF
COURSE, SHE DID GET HER OSCAR
BACK IN THE END SO ALL IS WELL
THAT ENDS WELL, I GUESS.
>> Rosemary: AND THAT GUY,
WE'LL SEE HIM AT THE NEXT AWARD
SHOW, I GUESS.
THAT'S "THE NATIONAL" FOR MAY
5th --
>> Adrienne: MAY?
MARCH!
>> Rosemary: OH, MARCH!
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