A popular brand of Surgical Mesh used to repair hernias has been found to cause dangerous
problems in patients that have it implanted in their bodies.
Uh, you know, you know what's so crazy about this story?
This has been going on for so long.
Johnson & Johnson, for example, knew that the material that was being used in, in Mesh
Hernia material would cause a whole host of problems.
First of all, it would, it would, it would migrate through the body, would break away
in these pieces of Mesh would migrate through the body.
Second of all, it wouldn't.
It would not allow the site to even heal.
The infections are overwhelming.
The longterm problems and pain are overwhelming.
The reason they know this is because for other companies had been making the same thing and
for other companies had been sued for the same thing.
And that took place years ago.
But Johnson & Johnson, just like Johnson & Johnson always does says, well, you know, we're going
to do it anyway.
It's just like, you know, the, the baby powder case.
A friend of mine just hit him for $4,000,000,000 in 22 cases of cancer.
Uh, it, Johnson & Johnson always, always focuses on the bottom line, always to the detriment
of consumers.
You know, take, take it from here.
I've actually full disclosure, I've handled these cases.
I know a lot about them.
I know why the material is causing says danger, but go, go ahead and talk about it.
We know the Johnson & Johnson through their little subsidiary, ethicon develop these polypropylene
meshes, which as you said, other people had already had on the market.
Johnson & Johnson wanted in on it because they saw that, hey, everybody else is making
a ton of money.
We need to develop a, poly a polypropylene Mesh, even though we know they're getting
sued, don't worry, we're going to make more money than they'll take from us in the courts.
So they make it and sure enough, it causes migration.
It causes a adhesion where, where it either at a, you know, basically becomes a part of
the organ or it makes organ's fused together.
If they're touching with this mesh.
It causes massive infections and horrid inflammation because of the chemicals in this polypropylene
actually hinder the healing process.
It makes it harder for the hernia to heal, and of course doctors, anytime something like
this comes out, unfortunately these drug reps go out.
They say, Hey, we know you've been using these old meshes that have been perfectly fine,
but here's something new.
It's lighter, it's more flexible.
It's going to make your patients feel so much better, so use our mesh instead of the old
things that have worked for so long.
Let me, let me put this in perspective for you.
Okay?
You're in a business and five, six years before, there are hundreds and hundreds of cases saying
that this thing that you're about to bet on the market will bad human injury.
Now, for example, these were, if you can imagine, these were actually used for vaginal, a vaginal
mesh program.
Now we're talking about Hernia Mesh, which is the same material.
It caused such injury inside a woman's vagina in the whole area around anywhere it touched.
It caused these adhesions.
It caused pain that was so bad that women had to basically have have hysterectomies,
I mean radical hysterectomy is because the pain was so bad is you said the the Mesh would
merge with other tissue.
It would merge with other organs and the women died from this.
And this there's no difference in the material we're talking about here where they use this
for small bowel resections.
They use it for ventral hernia repair.
They use it for bilateral tissue flaps.
They use it for a whole host of things.
Why do they use it?
They use it because doctors who aren't really trained in some of these procedures can then
say, well, I don't really need to have special training.
I'll just use this mesh package.
That little Susie distributor, you know, shows up at the doctor's office with cupcakes, Doc,
We got a new product.
It's this mesh product.
You can use it in surgery.
You don't have to be a specialist.
You can put this in anybody's body.
It is a disaster.
And Doc who simply is looking at the business aspect of it.
Says, oh, that's great.
I can do more procedures, I don't have to have special training because I have this
package.
It's the hernia package.
It's the Johnson & Johnson Hernia package that I can use every single day without special
training, and in the meantime, they botched the process in hundreds of thousands of people
all over the world are using these kinds of products and it's killing them in Johnson
& Johnson says, oh, that's okay.
We can still turn a profit.
We know that.
Here's a really good analogy for what you just said.
It's basically the difference between going and hiring a master craftsman to make you
a desk or going and buying a pre boxed packaged desk with pieces.
One, two, three, four, five that comes with the instructions on how to put it together.
You're going to get a lesser quality product, but it's cheaper and faster and that's what
these mesh kits are.
It is a step by step paint by the numbers.
Every hernia is the same, so don't worry about it if you've never done one before.
The instructions are basically on the back of the box.
Whereas in the past you would have a skilled surgeon go in.
They wouldn't have to use these.
They would, you know, get in there and repair the tissue.
It would take a little bit longer.
They couldn't do as many surgeries in the day, but when hospitals became all about profits,
it was turn them and burn, get 'em in, get 'em out.
Hospitals became a corporation no longer dr hospitals, it's no different than Exxon.
They call it a hospital, but it's a corporate hospital.
Look, if you're told, listen to this, you're told, yeah, you can use this product, but
you might want to know.
It can cause death.
It can cause where it's where it's put in, it'll.
It'll cause that area to deformed.
It'll cause contact in migration.
Whether their organ systems that will cause failure of the organ systems.
It will.
It'll induce adhesions that caused chronic and severe pain that we can't correct, but
you know you're welcome to use it.
These are the types of things the patient doesn't know because the patient trust the
doctor.
The doctor says, Oh yeah, this is good stuff, and if they only understood how little the
doctor really knows about it, especially the doctors who are using this stuff because these
aren't doctors, as you say, these aren't.
Most of the time It's not like specialists, craftsmen, surgeons who can solve this problem
without hernia mesh within and without any kind of Mesh.
They can solve it without Mesh.
They can solve it with real tissue, but you know what?
Every doctor can't do that.
Therefore you reduce the business that a doctor can do.
Right, and you get the board of directors at a hospital saying, hey, you spent three
hours on this surgery.
We could've had the guy from down the hall do it in one hour with a mesh kit that's more
money, but also we have to talk about the FDA's role in this because they, you know,
Johnson & Johnson, as you said, they came to the Mesh party a little later than everybody
else, so they didn't have to get approval for their Hernia Mesh because the FDA is so
screwed up that the rule is you walk into the office and say, Hey, I've got this new
Mesh, but it's so similar to these other messages on the market that we didn't have to do any
testing because they did the testing.
You approved.
There's you have to approve ours. and when it goes bad.
Doctors that we talked to the first round of these mesh cases, doctors we talked to
said it's the equivalent of trying to remove concrete from rebarb when we're trying to
remove this only we're talking about human tissue that is absolutely destroyed in the
process.
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