- Hey guys, James again with TFB TV,
and I'm a very lucky man to have these two ladies in my life
I've got an H&K MP5, and a SIG-MPX,
and today I'm doing a follow-up video to the
Top Five reasons the MPX is better, video.
Today we're talking about the top five reasons
the H&K MP5 is better.
Now in my opinion I think the H&K MP5 is the crowd favorite.
I mean, look at that silhouette.
It's iconic.
It's a beautiful gun.
It's well engineered, well-made, and proven.
So, there's definitely a few things that the old MP5
does better than the newer MPX.
Now, I'm gonna start with kind of a low impact plus
of the H&K MP5, and that is collectibility.
There is a lot of fun to be had
just by owning an H&K MP5.
Finding the parts, scrounging them up,
selling your parts, trading parts with other people.
These guns are steeped in history.
They've been made in many countries across many continents.
You've got, of course, the original German H&K MP5's.
You've got the MKE, the Turkish guns.
You've got POF, the Pakistani Ordinance Factory guns.
You've even got some Greek MP5's,
so it kinda makes things fun.
So, this gun started it's life out
as a German H&K MP5 parts kit.
I purchased an MKE flat back in the day,
probably around 10 years ago.
Back when you couldn't get H&K flats,
and the closest thing you could get was an imported
MKE Turkish Flat.
So, I paid probably $400 or $450 for this flat,
ten years ago.
Now, on the back I've got a POF,
or a Pakistani Ordinance Factory collapsible stock.
Now, even though I've got a German parts kit,
a Turkish receiver, a Pakistani butt stock,
this is still an all H&K gun.
It was all made on H&K tooling.
Again, that's what makes the MP5 so awesome.
It's steeped in history.
It's fun to collect things from.
It's fun to find parts.
It's fun to barter for parts,
and you don't have that with the MPX.
Which is right now, kind of, a soul-less tool
as opposed to the MP5, which is not only
a very funtional tool
but it's full of history, and full of tradition.
Related to that, parts availability.
Now, I don't know how many H&K MP5 they've made
since the 60s, but I'm willing to bet
it's around a buttload.
You go to Europe, what do the cops carry
if they've got a sub-gun?
H&K MP5.
You go to Mexico, I was just in Mexico City,
these guys had some brand new H&K MP5s,
and some of the police there had some of the
oldest beat up H&K MP5s, probably some of the first ones
to roll off the line.
Finish completely taken off of them.
So, the point is there are a lot of these guns out there.
They've been made for a long time
so it's easy to find parts for.
Now, for the MPX if you wanna get parts,
where do you go?
Well, you have to go to SIG
but that said, if SIG decided to shut down
the MPX tomorrow you'd be out of luck
because they've only been making it
for a couple of years now.
Now, compare that to the MP5, which has a deep pool
of guns out there to draw from.
Now, for number three,
I'm going to call it the H&K trademarks.
You've got some features that are unique
to the H&K Roller Locking guns,
and in particular the H&K MP5.
For example, you have the tri-lug adapter
on the muzzle-end of the gun,
and in my opinion this is one of the best,
if not the best way to
affix and remove a muzzle device.
You've got the H&K Diopter Sights,
these are circle-within-a-circle sights, with four settings
and in my opinion they're some of the best sights out there.
Using concentric circles has been found to
scientifically be more intuitive,
and to decrease target acquisition time
versus standard post-and-peep sights.
Some of you out there may know that the H&K MP5
and also the P7 pistol have fluted chambers
that are supposed to assist in extraction.
You've also got the H&K charging handle.
Who doesn't love a nice H&K slap every now and then?
It's a robust charging handle.
A lot of people like charging on the left side of the gun.
Many people, myself included, think it's superior to the
T-Charging Handle on the AR-15,
or if you're a right-handed shooter,
having to go over or under
in order to charge, like the AK-47, for example.
Then, you also have the Paddle Mag Release,
a very convenient way of releasing your magazine,
and cool as hell.
Finally the H&K clips and loops for the sling,
for slinging up the MP5.
It feels like it's just wrong,
if you aren't using H&K clips.
Now, these H&K clips have actually gone mainstream.
You'll see them on a lot of people's
AR-15 Rifles and Slings.
The MP5 is also
(MP5 rounds hitting metal) more shootable.
That, in my opinion, is a big advantage
that it has over the MPX,
but it's kind of a two-way street.
The MPX is about a pound lighter
than the mostly steel MP5.
But, the MP5's weight and the factory trigger
much better than the MPX trigger, a lot smoother.
You're really getting a more shootable gun.
Especially, when you pair that with
either a red dot sight.
This is a C-More,
or those concentric circles.
So, that said I guess if I was gonna
shoot a match with one out-of-the-box stock,
or if I was gonna shoot one fully automatic,
which I have.
I've shot the MP5 in several occasions fully automatic.
Imminently controllable.
So, it's a very shootable gun.
It's much more shootable, in my opinion,
than an out-of-the-box MPX.
Finally the number one reason the H&K MP5
is better than the SIG MPX
is perhaps the most obvious, and the strongest reason
and that is because it is a proven design.
This gun came about in the 60s.
The operating system was borrowed from the
H&K G3, which had been around since the 50s.
So, ze German's already knew that
it was going to work right out of the gate.
In fact, the German government
always faithful to H&K,
adopted the MP5 only two years later,
for use by the German Federal Police,
The Border Guard, and the Military.
The MP5 was somewhat obscure for the next 15 years,
and then you know what happens next
Operation Nimrod, 1980,
the British SAS, stormed the Iranian Embassy in London
and the SAS commando's got posterized with some
very choice photographs that would make
Chuck Norris cream his pants.
And they're all cradling the H&K MP5.
After that, boom!
Instant success.
Every SWAT team in America wanted an H&K MP5.
Even the SEALS and DELTA FORCE
wanted some of that sweet German steel.
As I mentioned, earlier in the video
it started being produced under contract
in Greece, Turkey, Mexico, France, Switzerland by B&T,
Great Britain, and Iran even.
50 years later the H&K MP5 is still being produced,
and still being used by Military
and Police Forces around the globe.
In fact, the MP5 isn't necessarily declining
because of obsolescence but really it's more because
the short-barreled rifle-caliber carbine
like the M4, the MK-18 etc.
Those types of platforms are becoming much more popular
and now a lot of end users believe that
shooting an intermediate rifle caliber
out of a very small platform,
like a PDW sized gun or an SMG sized gun,
far surpasses the usefulness of the
pistol caliber personal defense weapon or sub-machine gun.
So, the H&K MP5 versus the M4 might have to wait
for another video but for purposes of today's video
the MP5 versus the MPX,
there's no question that the MP5 is
one of the most proven designs still in common use today.
At least as far as sub-machine guns go.
Anyways guys, I hope you enjoyed part 2
of the MPX versus the MP5.
And stay tuned for part three.
Five reasons why the MP5 and the MPX both kinda suck.
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