- First of all, though,
not everybody understands fully what CAPS is.
Can anybody just give me a quick elevator speech
on what CAPS is?
Who can give me that?
Come on.
Somebody can be able to do that for me.
Robert.
Okay, the Center for Advanced Professional Studies
is a program in the Blue Valley district and in Northland
where high school students are
able to go off campus for a few hours a day
and do professional activities
they wouldn't be able to do at their home high school,
such as engineering, medicine, teaching, robotics.
It's an outlet for other activities
that pertain to potential careers
that aren't available in high school.
- Great explanation.
So teaching, robotics, aeronautics.
How on earth did you get involved
in doing a project about KCI Airport, Caitlyn?
- Oh, well, we are actually in the medical, uh--
- That's fine.
Start it again.
Go from the beginning.
- So we are actually in the engineering
and advanced manufacturing strand,
and so one of the things at the beginning of the year
that we thought would be really cool
is to team with the Blue Valley CAPS,
and kind of have a little competition between us
to see who could come up with
kind of a renovation or a rebuild, you know,
just to see the different ideas on that,
to really get a good sense of what
the field would actually look like
when you were like, after you
get your degree and everything,
what the work would be looking like.
- How unusual, though, first of all,
because you're on Missouri-side schools,
working in bi-state cooperation there, Michael,
with a Kansas-side school.
I mean we hear all the time about
the problems of a state line in this community.
You're working together on a problem.
- So working together on a problem
while being over state lines can be challenging,
but with the fact that Robbie and I
took the reconstruction and they took the rebuild,
we were able to work together while at the same time
working separately to come up with research
to develop our conclusions on
what we'd like to do with the airport.
- How much did you know about
the airport beforehand though, Caitlyn?
- So I really only knew from personal experience
flying in and out of it.
I didn't know all the details about
like all the research we did.
So we did a whole bunch of research on what we did
and we did that in class, and so...
- Maddie, it has been in the news, of course,
about the concerns that some people have
about building a brand new KCI terminal.
How involved with you, how much did you know
about the issues around a brand new terminal at KCI?
- Obviously you hear about it on the news,
but we hadn't really thought about it
until we really took on the project.
So we specifically looked at
how it would be renovated rather than the rebuild,
so we know a lot more on that,
but we were able to see from the news,
a lot of it spoken about the rebuild
rather than the renovations, so we kind of
got to see both sides of it.
- So why the focus just on the renovation?
- So we split it up because it's so much research
that goes into building the airport,
because not only do you have to look at public perception
but also all of the technical side of it,
so it was easier to split up both sides
so we could really get all of the information
by sharing it with each other,
than trying to tackle both of them.
- Okay, so you've been studying
the renovation of KCI airport.
So tell us about what did you actually
learn along the way on this, Robert?
- I learned a lot of things.
From the technical aspects of the airport,
what goes into building one,
what goes into maintenance, the politics of it,
but also like the professional skills.
We got to go to a variety of places.
- [Interviewer] You went off to Hawaii
to show their airports?
Oh, you didn't go that far.
- I was actually in Los Angeles last week
at an international competition,
talking about the airport and my public relations
campaign for it, but I've also gone to
Chamber of Commerce meetings to kind of
hear the prediction for how Kansas City's growing,
and what we need, as well as area development,
which has showed very strong interest
in the possibility of growing the airport
to suit the needs for our community.
- Name one thing that surprised you
when you're doing this project,
that you didn't know before.
- From the technical aspect, or like a...?
- Well, any part of how an airport operates
or the political concerns,
or the logistical concerns of airports.
- Well, one thing that really surprised me
was the lack of awareness.
I thought people kind of knew what was going on,
but I was doing some research on it,
and I'd go find a little like sound bytes from YouTube
about interviews from major news outlets,
and there'd be like 60 views on it
and it'd be posted for a year,
and it was surprising how little people
were pursuing information about the airport.
Because people know, they go into the airport
and it's convenient for us,
but it was hard for me to understand
how people weren't interested
in trying to find information about
how it affects Kansas City in general.
- Michael, what was the biggest surprise for you?
The thing you didn't know about beforehand
that you thought, "Huh, I didn't know that."
- So going along with our research,
one of the major topics is,
if you don't fly, you don't buy.
And so this can be said with
the building of the new airport.
For right now, the airlines are going to be
paying for it, which does not cost
the taxpayers any money,
which is very surprising, and that's something that I,
1.25 billion dollars is a big number,
and to people hearing that, they probably think,
oh, my tax money's going to go up.
It's going to cost, on average,
about $2.10 extra per ticket
for you to fly in the new airport.
- Okay.
What did you learn, Maddie?
- Specifically, we got to look at
a lot of the technical side,
so we looked at a lot of comparisons of other airports.
So I learned that a majority of the revenue
that comes in from an airport actually isn't from tickets,
but it's from all the other aspects,
from the concessions to the car rentals,
to the retail shops that are now in
over 50% of airports around the country,
and so that's really where they're gaining
more of their revenue, rather than from ticket sales,
which is something that Kansas City can capitalize on.
- Caitlyn.
- So it really surprised me
how much that we are expecting,
like how much growth we are expecting,
because one of the things we really looked at
was how we need to remodel or rebuild the airport
to where we can handle our future generations
50 years from now, because this is going to be our airport
for the next 50 or so years,
and so it really surprised me to see the hard facts.
We need something like 15,000 more parking spaces,
and just things like that that really show
like how much growth we are expecting in the area.
So that was really neat.
- So this project you're working on, then.
You are researching.
What is the final outcome of all of this?
What are you actually have to show for this?
What is the final product?
- So we created presentations that displayed our information
and the findings that we kind of concluded
from our research, and then we presented them
to some different companies and businesses
around the Kansas City area that have been involved
in the process of trying to figure out
what they're going to do with the Kansas City airport.
- And so what was the reaction to that
when you went to, say, when you went to
one of the big engineering firms in town?
- They were definitely shocked that some high-schoolers
had gone into as much depth as we had,
but they were also really helpful
in giving another outlook on how the airport,
from more of a business side that's really
pursuing it as a means of a project for them.
- Okay.
What other reactions did you get?
- People were very surprised to see,
there's a lot of misconceptions about the airport,
because as a user, the airport, living in Kansas City,
it's very convenient for us to use it.
Where you go like from the curb to the gate.
They don't take into consideration
things like security costs, security in general,
and like if you had to change flights,
because living in Kansas City, you don't have
layovers in Kansas City, and so that was very surprising.
Reactions for that, people were kind of,
we got mixed opinions, some people were outraged
that we were trying to change the airport.
Other people were very much so,
"Oh yes, I've been to the airport millions of times,
"I hate it, it's terrible."
So it was a very crowd, which made it
very interesting to work on.
- I think that one of the really big things
that hit some of the places we presented
out of even us, was that we had to
create this presentation from scratch
and then build on it and then we had to present it
as a class, and so really putting that together,
and actually going and presenting was really cool.
It was a really good experience for us,
because in engineering and everything,
you have to really work on that aspect of things,
like pitching your ideas and getting them to go forward,
so doing this now, and especially doing it
to actual business people was a really good experience
that we had.
- The choice the public has to make, at this point in time,
and voters, possibly in November,
and possibly even in April, is to decide
whether they want to do what you have done in this project,
is to renovate the airport,
or to build a whole brand new terminal
that would cost more money,
some say would be the same amount of money,
or could even cost less than renovating.
Do you have a better sense of those options today?
Robbie?
- Absolutely.
Going into the project, I figured that it would be,
it would be like ridiculous to try to build a new one,
and just what we have now is functional
and it works for our city,
but after doing a little more research,
I kind of figured out that it's very hard
to change what we have now.
It's concrete, it's big, it's an awkward shape.
You can't change it very easily to accommodate
different activities or more flights.
And so we kind of found a fusion
of a rebuild and remodel was the best option,
and we thought that it's an investment,
you'd want to get a new one, I suppose,
because I can't imagine using
the same airport 50 years from now
as opposed to if we build a brand new one right now.
I see no problem having it in 50, 75 years,
and being able to update it
to keep it up with the current technology.
- Anybody else on the trade-offs, then,
that the public has to make between
the renovation of the airport, which you've looked at,
and a brand new terminal.
- So we really like a kind of hybrid idea
that allows you to utilize what's already there
but on addition, update it, so that you can
see the benefits from the future.
So utilizing a portion of the terminals
for business space and renovating, like Terminal C,
for example, so that you can use that for conference rooms,
and then utilizing portions of like Terminal B,
but then tearing down Terminal A,
so you kind of have a mix of utilizing the old,
but then bringing in the new,
so that we can have an airport
that will be available for future generations.
- And Caitlyn and Maddie,
you, because you're seniors, if this vote is in November,
will have the opportunity,
this could be one of your first elections to actually vote.
- Yeah, definitely.
- You guys at the back, though,
living in Kansas, won't even have an option,
because it would only be for Kansas City, Missouri voters.
You've been working on a project.
Some people feel that they're being disenfranchised.
It's a metropolitan-wide asset.
But they don't get to vote on it
if you don't actually live within the boundaries
of Kansas City, Missouri.
- So that's one main reason why we wanted to
take this as our project,
because this isn't just about the people
that live on the Missouri side.
A majority of the people going to the airport
every single day come from the
Overland park and Leawood areas and the Kansas side,
so it's not just the people in Missouri
that are going to be affected by this new airport.
- Was there anybody in your own families
who held a different position to you
in terms of the findings that you made
in terms of the airport than they were
holding in your own family,
and you were helping change their minds?
- I think that a lot of the people
in our own family and in the community
don't see a problem with KCI,
just because they're looking at it
from a citizen perspective and from their usage rate,
so from that point, it seems fine,
but when you look at it from like a business standpoint,
you're seeing that we're losing a lot of potential
that we could use from having KCI becoming a hub,
much like Atlanta, for example,
because they have all of these things,
different shops, different restaurants,
different areas where you can have conference rooms.
You can fly in, have your meeting,
and then fly right back out.
And so we're really losing all of that revenue
and potential by not doing it,
but that's not common to look at
if you're just using it for vacation aspect,
which most people in Kansas City are.
- Robbie, you were changing minds in the small household?
- I was trying.
I was trying.
- Okay.
Anything else that came out of this project
that you'd like us to know about?
- I was surprised about the really strong
public opinion to not change the airport.
People are very attached to the way it is now.
And I get it, it works really well,
because you can go in and get through security
in under an hour and get to your flight,
whereas other places you'd have to get there
upwards to three hours early just to get through security,
but you know, you kind of have to trade off
and think about the future and the growth of the city
and what comes next.
- Anybody else?
- I think Caitlyn said it.
Just saying that we need to look at the future
and determine what's going to be the best course of action
that will be utilized for the next 50 years,
rather than just focusing on the present.
- Caitlyn, Maddie, Michael and Robert,
thank you very much for sharing some of your observations
with us at KCPT.
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