Well Ronald, here we are...Ronald Bernard
we start the interview in front of the monkey rock
where animals are living in captivity for our entertainment
I'm ronald Bernard, the name Blij has to do with another story...which i won't go into right now
it's an adoptive name, that anyone that joins us can use
i use it in that way, like a pseudonym used by a writer or an artist
It's fun to do it like that on the internet...we mustn't take internet all too seriously
my whole life i worked as an analyst, inspirator, entrepreneur
untill 18 yrs ago...there
was a clear tipping point
in the way i handled things
one of my specialties was for instance financial services
that was 18 yrs ago...you might say it's a long time ago, but it's still the way it's done now
as a moneytrader i was like a gambler in a casino, gamling with money
worldtrade in finance is gambling
And it was always at the expence of someone else
a country, a company or an actual person
your profit is always at the expence of another
...if you wanna make an omelette, you gotta break some eggs?
that's how we did it, and its still done this way
We also did poster trading, meaning the big capital of companies, multinationals, old families, banks, governments
So everywhere where the big money is searchin for yield, profit...or tax evasion, one of my specialties...it's normal in our world
So everywhere where the big money is, searchin for yield, profit...or tax evasion, one of my specialties it's normal in our world
Nowaday's the Netherlands is one of the centers where this takes place....a lot of money flows through our country. its all about tax evasion
So that's how i worked for 18 yrs, i did a lot of other projects too.
I could only do this by putting my conciense in the freezer.
the freezer not minus 18 degrees, but minus 100
you need to do so. Because when you're consciencely and willingly, working for your own pleasure...and that of your clients
from my point of view now... i say you're doing the wrong thing
now i know this...but back then i couldn't see
i had to go through a major mental breakdown. i had to hit rock bottom
i thought life wasn't worth it anymore...i might as wel be dead etc.
which almost happened...
i didn't know any other life
- So you were victim of your own actions...
I could not care less...
_ but how come these people, with that kind of mentality.... how do they come together?
well....
to go back to that 18 yrs. and the moment i totally crashed
and was ressurected. Because that's how bad it was
I started living with nature during my recovery
i discovered a whole new world i didn't knew
A world of harmony, abundace...a closed system that takes care of itself
and then i started believing there is one Creator
that we have the right to excist
and that everything life has to offer...is designed to fulfill our needs
-did you rediscovered your soul?
I only just started to find out who i was
i discovered i had developed a kind of 'sub person'
one who just did'n't want to feel and know
In order to survive the world where i was working in
A very unnatural way, that eventualy caused my breakdown...
everyone crashes sooner or later.
-Can you compare it to the mythological vampire?
The system was vampiric
it was never enough
we are conditioned to make a big carreer
and the higher you find yourself over there...
(very typical we find ourselves here, at the 'monkey rock')
the higher on that rock the better you are as a monkey
it means status and respect
i discovered that it was not me
when i crashed i thought to myself, 'what nonsense'...its not true life!
i was constantly filling up the emptiness
but there's no need for that..
you are fine the way you are. you are beautiful
the change within you can only be done by you.
only you can make that change
for me that was 18 yrs ago
i began to believe in our Creator
spirituality became a big part of my life. also in my deeds in this world... not only talking about it...
but in this way, my deeds manifests themselves in this world
now i don't think only of me...but also of my surrounding
- you rediscovered your true nature?
yes. i rediscovered how we all are born
how we all came into this world as a newborn....how pure...and beautiful
we are fine just the way we are
-what you just described, the alianation... you felt like another being back then?
Oh yes...totally
think about the coldblooded...emotionless...
we are now leaving the reptile house
I have been there...and i never wanna go back again
once you find out what real life is about
-colourful again?
indeed...i'ts really abundant
it enables you to know real love again for the first time
unconditional love
you will be capable to love nature, your fellow human beings...yourself
These are the basic fundaments you need, to make that change within you....that's how you can make things happen
transitions
transitions that we are working on right now
Not only me...a lot of people in this world are doing the same thing
Because the old system belongs over there. between the snakes, the reptiles
it belongs in the museum...nice to watch once in a while
but it doesn't serve us
which brings us to the fact that a lot of people still don't realise what is going on here
but they are starting to feel something is going on...
the wallet
everybody feels it in their wallet
unfortunatly that's the only level where people can still find one another
- kinda sad, isn't it?
This is how things are, no one is to blame...we don't know any better
but this is the point where we are right now
if we want to reunite, it has to be through our wallets
after all, that's where they got to us
- the result is we got alianated from eachother...the game of divide and conquer everybody's playing
that's right
but eventualy you begin to wonder why this is happening
in the medieval interest was forbidden because it was parasitic...there was a death sentence for it
- so...back to the medieval?
yes! the golden age
the Netherlands are the founders of the current banking system...and the payment of interest
Why is paying interest wrong?
interest is money that was never created
first i have to explain...
all the money in society is based on debt
so if you want to bring money into the system
let's say you lend money from the bank
the bank creates money out of nothing
which, by the way, is a misconception
in economics you learn that savings will take care of that
but through your loan they create money
okay, so you lend 100 euros...and they will charge you 5 euros per year
but that interest has never been created. its not included
so eventualy there will be only 95 euros left in the money circuit
because of the 5 euros that returned
i pay this every year...and that way you get lesser means of trade -money!- in the circuit
creating a shortage
- so money only flows in one direction
but we found a solution for that
we throw in even more loans
more money out of nothing to cover the shortage
we get more shortage, more debt...shortage, debt, shortage etc.
and here we are...one big giant bubble of air
Netherlands national debt is more than 400 billion
we have to pay around 15 billion euros every year on interest!
but hey! what about all the cutbacks we had every year??
at everybody's expence!
-it never ends
never ending...the cutbacks will never end
its the old system...it belongs in the reptile house
like i said before...its a vampire system...in the medieval you got the death sentence
the Netherlands has developed this system
the Amsterdam stock became the Bank of England
the system has now ran its course...and its ending
that 5% interest you usualy pay for your mortgage...
i call it: 'the earth plus 5%'
all these shortages they create from interest every year...
if Jesus Christ had put 5 eurocents in the bank 2.000 years ago...
And he now shows up at the bank to cash his money
then we would have to deliver multiple globes in their weight of gold to Him
"there you go Sir...here's your interest"
- Maybe all the Christians who are talking about the return of the Lord...maybe they don't know what they're saying?
I think they can not imagine Him putting money in the bank
They know He has a kind heart and really doesn't care for money at all!
in fact...the moneytraders, the Templars...
that was one of the few times He was really angry
- you already told me, that there was a clear tipping point when you crashed
i discovered i couldn't stay on my little island...if you really want to manage your life well
you start with yourself...but also with your environment
most people will probably agree with me, we can not go on like this
for all the reasons we talked about today
we have to take a good, hard look at what has happened
how did it happen...
the banking system
the global monetary system is responsible for the fact that we are living in a form of slavery
its ridiculous that 80% of the global population is living in famine!
...in poverty and deseases
We can not let our fellow humans rot away like this!
its because of our system!
that's why we devoloped a new banking system
a system that's serving society, serving to people...to life itself
money is no longer a goal...it's a means to help us
we as a bank can decide to finance our society in a different way
investing in a different way
we have to stop paying for our water!
let's help those dutch innovators, and finance them! improve our way of life
you asked me before why i use the name Blij (Happy)
i think we are not that happy anymore
our international name is Bank of Joy, and we get a lot of positive response from all over the world
as soon as we have our base strong and solid here in the Netherlands
this is our 'test lab' for the whole world
we can show the rest of the world we really can make a change
we are one of the few countires where more than 200 nationalities are living toghether
if they could all coorporate together
what binds us, instead of what is dividing us...cause that's whats happening now
join our forces to build...with 200 nationalities, a new Holland
a country of abundance...
the Bank of Joy is a new phenomena
if we can reach upon 10.000 members
and they would buy a neverending lifelong certificate of 100 euros
they become all owners of the bank...
important...no longer just a few people who own it...
we...the people, own the bank together and decide together how we do things
- a coorporation?
a coorporation!
if we can find another 60.000 members to join in, we are good to go
the only thing we failed to achieve in the last 3 years, is to have enough starting capital
You need to have that... its mandatory. and you need to prove this in order to become a real bank
its the only term we still have to achieve
- but thats not the only goal of the bank of Joy?
no. we want to introduce a new currency, the 'Ura'
in that way we can protect our national capital
- why the name 'Ura'?
Uur en Arbeid (Hour and Work)
its a combination of those two
because the effective true value here on earth, as we perceive it....is us
the moment you take sand to create glass...it becomes valuable
its neither the sand, nor the glass
its your work that makes it valuable
your work...your hours make it valuable
and we all decide together how valuable
-so a fixed value?
you can't get more fixed value than ourself. its everlasting!
we are the capital...gold isn't
people are betting on gold..but gold is speculative
stock can be manipulated...you can lose on that
-the Bank of joy is part of the United People Foundation?
the foundation is the managment company, they develop innovative financial services and products
they are very productive
like: health, energy, healthy food, the distribution
- the housing of people?
yes, all the things we need in society...this foundation takes care of it
united people foundation
the bank is part of the foundation
its the tool we need to facilitate the rest
we will be a 'reserve bank''
meaning:
you never lend out more money, than the money you have on savings!
you can NOT lend out more money than you actually have!!
if members don't need their money for , lets say the first 10 years, they can use us to invest that money
in our society. Where we really need that money to make it healthy again
In that way we don't need those multinationals anymore
What is a king without it's people?
- we just had 'Prinsjesdag' (= declaration of the Dutch government presenting the national buget for the upcoming year)
- it's clear the administration won't survive the end of this year...
- probably we end up with a coalition with SP (socialists) and PVV (nationalists)
the SP and PVV are the only two parties in Holland that name that the problems with the Euro
and that there's something wrong with Europe
both parties have spoken out about it
Emiel Roemer (leader SP) has even spoke in a classroom
and said there: "We don't help countries in Europe....we help banks"
a bold statement....but he's right
but...he is the opposition
the same with Geert Wilders of the PVV...he is opposition
recent studies of an English university shows that
all the political parties in our government, from the year 1980...
have been only working for the big capital. Not for our society!
- not as a representive of the people?
Right! And the litteral meaning of 'minister' is servant of the people
Minister. It didn't happen
whatever the campaigning promises of the SP and PVV are,
if they don't choose another banking system
a new national currency, to protect the Netherlands
meaning choose a transition bank, a bank where we all participate
pick any bank you like, we had to bail them all out with tax payers money
- we are all shareholders in a way...
if we start there...create our own money again,
only then i will believe they will do as they promise
as long as they stay in the old system
depending on the old financial systems
...bankers...
we will have the dynamics of the junkie and his dealer
Because...how will you fund your campaign, when your dealer says "uh uh"
"You will serve only us, you don't serve the people!"
"You can make all those promises to the people..."
"But we own you...because we are the ones that pay you""
- Otherwise you don't get your fix?
If SP and PVV can put aside their differences
instead of what divides them...
think about society, and put aside their egocentric interests
really serving the people
coorporate with eachother, since the people are the ones that chose them
Maybe it's not your choice...maybe it's not mine...but the mass chose them
- you really think that's whats gonna happen...those two parties?
- If you would give an advise on whom to vote for
- in case the solution would come through politics...which i personally think is not gonna happen...
_ there are also other, less prominent parties, like for instance the party 'Man and Spirit'
- they have quite a unique program
- They work with real economics, true professionals
- i read it, and it kinda gives me new hope...
They indeed have really good solutions
- Maybe that would be an option?
It's an option for the future...that's the problem!
- You don't see this happening in the near future?
No. Absolutely not
The people now think only about their wallet. On the level of fear
There is so much damage been done to society
It's not in their daily realm
You have to present specific solutions, in order to motivate people
to start doing it themselves
We have to do it ourselves!
- Ronald...you think politics will ever give a solution?
well...until now, politicians have shown us they are followers
in this case they followed the big money
It would be a nice change if they start following the people
(inaudible)
if you take for instance the Bank of Joy...it manifests itself as a new banking system
Many, many things flow from there
Via a tool like that, you can make transitions... everything is possible..
Because the money flow is now under our own management
we decide for ourselves how we spend our money
But that's not all...if we would have a couple of billion members
like an innitiative of the people....
It's an innitiative of citizens
of professionals
which is good
and more and more people join us, also people from the old banking system are joining us, by the way
there is a shifting going on
many of the old system come and work with us
if society also sees, hey...we can benefit too
We can't go on like this...we need back our own national currency
changable with the Euro
if we reach the level of billions of people...we can demand our Democracy back
because we are on the way to become a dictatorship
Just like they do in Switzerland, having back refererenda, where the people can vote on important issues
It's possible in a very easy way, since we have the internet
if the right for referenda returns in our democracy...Then that's exactly what you get...
A real Democracy!
we all get to decide toghether
- I think in that way we can achieve more in one weeks time...
than a whole administration can do in it's entire span
Of course!
The whole administration in The Hague is the most expensive theatre ever in our Dutch history!
It's total bullshit.
There are many politicians who still have integrity and mean well
But as soon as they are part of the government and they have to obey their boss....their financiers
It becomes theatre.
not because of the people individualy...but it's the system
The system creates with this result
And yes...if you are with a couple of billion people
and you don't agree on the prices on fuel
Or you dissaprove of an oil company...
...then we just simply stop it
we can finance other means of energy...by ourselves
instead of those fossil fuels, subsidised by our government(!)
- ...that we have to cough up through our taxes...
So we, the mass...can change everything we don't agree on
- Then...what's keeping us from just doing it?
Until now there has been no vehicle with enough capacity
with professionals who are just fed up with the current system....
That's what it's coming down to
We are all from the old sysytem
We all are just a bunch of rats transformed into beautiful swans...or sweet little pinguins
We all have changed...not only me, but all the participants in our group
We now have a couple of thousands, and it's ongoing...it doesn't stop
So...the Netherlands is waking up, i think
they are very, very angry...and just totaly fed up
we as an organization, and it's not only me...
Have provided a specific means to create a change in the Netherlands
eventualy it's also meant for the rest of the world
Let's not forget...we are talking about 7 billion people
Who can all live in abundance!
you see...A couple of nerdy economics did the math:
...We can live with 100 billion people on this world in total abundance!
Why are we still talking about it
- But how about those Georgia Guidestones?
- These inscriptions in the stones, that the world population must stay below 500.000.000 people?
Well...that goes back to the days of Hitler
It's the creation of the perfect race
- I am shocked there are still people who celebrate that idea...even academics
It's Darwinism. The survival of the Fittest.
it's the perfection of the human race
through all kinds of means, vaccination, modified food filled with chemicals,
The water...even your water
- Bill Gates!
yes...
but let's stay on the subject, the Netherlands...because that is important to me
Half of the Dutch population is now chronically ill.
The 'selection' is already happening
Only the healthy people are the 'chosen ones'
They are the ones who will be the servants
But it's old news. We are done with that
it's gone...totally gone.
- To a new world?
The new world is already here!
The only thing we have to do is embrace it!
just do it.
- I thought we were still in the old system...but...
We still live in the fairytale they once told us
telling us we have to learn to live with it.
that's just the way it is...right?
in that same fairytale we now have been reduced to cattle...like a cow with a tag in its ear
Go go go!
to end up in the meatgrinder
- One big mega animal stall...
Does the Netherlands still want this?
Let's celebrate life again!
Maybe it's hard to see at this moment...
but the moment we dicide from within, to make that change
You will be amazed to see what we are capable of.
Will You Join Us?
- I do
Okay, let do it.
TOGETHER!
EACH TIME, WHEN I HAVE BEEN TO THE ZOO, I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE SO MUCH BETTER.
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