>>> ON THIS WEDNESDAY NIGHT, THE
MAN WHO KILLED SIX PEOPLE AT A
MOSQUE IS NOW A CONVICTED
MURDERER.
AS A JUDGE READ THE NAMES OF THE
VICTIM, ALEXANDRE BISSONNETTE
ADMITTED HIS GUILT, AND A SILENT
COURTROOM WAS PUNCTURED BY THE
SOBS OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
SO HOW DOES A GRIEVING COMMUNITY
NOW BEGIN TO MOVE FORWARD?
>>> ALSO, WHAT A HISTORIC
AGREEMENT MEANS FOR A MATIS
COMMUNITY.
>>> WHERE IN THE WORLD TO SEND
OUR TRASH.
TONIGHT'S FOCUS ON OUR SERIES,
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
>>> IN QUEBEC CITY TODAY, A LONG
WAIT FOR JUSTICE TOOK A VERY
SUDDEN TURN.
IT'S BEEN 14 MONTHS SINCE
ALEXANDRE BISSONNETTE WALKED
INTO A MOSQUE SHORTLY AFTER
SUNDAY PRAYERS AND STARTED
SHOOTING.
HE KILLED 6 MEN.
SERIOUSLY WOUNDED FIVE OTHERS.
ALL FOR WHAT?
THE ATTACK PLUNGED AN ENTIRE
COMMUNITY INTO GRIEF AND FEAR.
BUT AS THE VICTIMS NAMES WERE
READ IN THE COURTROOM TODAY, A
DRAMATIC PLEA FROM THE ACCUSED.
>> Reporter: A HIGH PROFILE
TRIAL THAT WAS EXPECTED TO LAST
MONTHS WRAPPED UP WITH AN
UNEXPECTED TWIST.
>> WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING
TO HAPPEN.
WE NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN
SOMEBODY'S HEAD.
>> Reporter: HIS FATHER WAS
AMONG THE SIX MEN KILLED.
>> HE KIND OF FEEL PRETTY
RELIEVED THAT THE TRIAL WON'T
HAVE TO TAKE PLACE.
IT'S A GOOD THING FOR US.
IT'S A GOOD THING FOR EVERYONE,
THE COMMUNITY.
>> Reporter: THE DRAMATIC MOMENT
CAME AFTER THE 28-YEAR-OLD
SUSPECT INITIALLY ENTERED A NOT
GUILTY PLEA ON MONDAY.
THEN HOURS LATER, HE ASKED TO
CHANGE THAT PLEA.
THE JUDGE WANTED TO MAKE SURE
ALEXANDRE BISSONNETTE UNDERSTOOD
WHAT HE WAS DOING SO HE ORDERED
A PSYCHIATRIC EVALUATION.
THE GUNMAN'S LAWYER SAYS HE
WANTED TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT.
>> IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO
PREVENT THE MANY VICTIMS AND
SOCIETY FROM RELIVING THROUGH
THE TRIAL THE TERRIBLE EVENTS
THAT TOOK PLACE ON JANUARY
29th, 2017.
>> Reporter: TODAY, AFTER THE
JUDGE READ ALL 12 CHARGES AND
THE VICTIMS NAMES ONE AFTER THE
OTHER, HE PLEADED GUILTY.
HE THEN READ A WRITTEN STATEMENT
AS THE VICTIMS' FAMILIES WEPT IN
THE COURTROOM.
HE SAID, I BITTERLY REGRET WHAT
I DID, THE LIVES THAT I
DESTROYED, THE GRIEF AND THE
IMMENSE PAIN I INFLICTED ON SO
MANY PEOPLE.
IN SPITE OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID
ABOUT ME, I'M NOT A TERRORIST
NOR AN ISLAM A PHOBE, RATHER A
PERSON THAT WAS CARRIED AWAY BY
FEAR.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU FOR
FORGIVENESS FOR ALL THE HARM
THAT I HAVE DONE TO YOU, BUT I
KNOW WHAT I DID IS UNFORGIVABLE.
A MAN SHOT IS NOT SURE IF HE
ACCEPTS HIS APOLOGY.
>> FIRST OF ALL --
>> Reporter: WE WILL HAVE TO SEE
IF HE IS SINCERE, HE SAYS.
THAT'S BETWEEN HIM AND GOD.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE MOSQUE SAYS
DESPITE THE GUILTY PLEA, HIS
MEMBERS AND FAMILIES OF THE
VICTIMS ARE STILL IN MOURNING,
AND THAT IT WON'T BE OVER FOR
THEM UNTIL ALEXANDRE BISSONNETTE
IS SENTENCED.
CBC NEWS, QUEBEC CITY.
>>> THESE ARE THE SIX MEN WHO
DIED THE DAY OF THE ATTACK.
ALL WERE BORN IN OTHER COUNTRIES
AND CHOSE CANADA TO BUILD THEIR
LIVES AND RAISE THEIR FAMILIES.
THEY RANGED IN AGE IN FROM 39 TO
60 AND ALTOGETHER, THEY LEAVE 17
CHILDREN BEHIND WITHOUT FATHERS.
>>> BEYOND THOSE FAMILIES
DEALING WITH GREAT LOSS, THINK
ABOUT THOSE FIVE PEOPLE WHO WERE
SERIOUSLY INJURED, WHAT IT'S
BEEN LIKE TO RECOVER PHYSICALLY
AND PICK UP THE PIECES OF THEIR
LIVES.
YOU HEARD FROM IVAN IN OUR STORY
A MOMENT AGO.
HE WAS SHOT 7 TIMES DURING THE
ATTACK.
HE'S PARALYZED NOW FROM THE
CHEST DOWN.
WHILE THE COMMUNITY HAS RALLIED
TO HELP HIM, A MUSLIM CHARITY
RAISED MORE THAN $400,000 TO
ALLOW HIS FAMILY TO BUY A HOME
ADAPTED TO HIS NEEDS AND EARLIER
THIS MONTH, LOCAL MUSICIANS
PLAYED AT A BENEFIT CONCERT TO
FURTHER THAT CAUSE.
>>> AS WE HEARD, PART OF THE
BROADER HEALING PROCESS WILL
INCLUDE OFFERING FORGIVENESS TO
THE ATTACKER.
THAT IS NOT AN EASY QUESTION TO
ANSWER.
>> NO.
AND ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS OR
APOLOGIZING SINCERELY, THESE ARE
ACTS THAT MATTER TO SO MANY
PEOPLE AND TODAY, CERTAINLY
RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL SURVIVORS
WERE HOPING TO GET AN APOLOGY
FROM POPE FRANCIS, BUT THEY
WON'T BE GETTING ONE.
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH RAN A
MAJORITY OF THE SCHOOLS AND AS
WE EXPLAIN, THE DISAPPOINTMENT
IN THE VATICAN'S DECISION IS
WIDESPREAD.
>> OBVIOUSLY I'M DISAPPOINTED
WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH'S
POSITION NOT TO APOLOGIZE.
>> Reporter: A PRIME MINISTER
WHO KNOWS A THING OR TWO ABOUT
DELIVERING APOLOGIES THINKS
SAYING SORRY SHOULDN'T BE THIS
HARD.
>> WE KNOW THAT TAKING
RESPONSIBILITY FOR PAST MISTAKES
AND ASKING FORGIVENESS IS
SOMETHING THAT IS CORE TO OUR
VALUES AS CANADIANS.
>> Reporter: JUSTIN TRUDEAU MADE
AN APPEAL TO POPE FRANCIS AT THE
VATICAN LAST YEAR.
THIS WEEK, THE CANADIAN
CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS
ISSUED A LETTER.
THE POPE FELT HE COULD NOT
PERSONALLY RESPOND.
>> POPE FRANCIS HAS ALREADY
APOLOGIZED.
HE'S STRESSED REGRET AND SORROW
FOR INJUSTICES TO INDIGENOUS
PEOPLE.
>> Reporter: CHURCH OFFICIALS
POINT OUT FRANCIS ASKED
FORGIVENESS IN 2015 FOR CRIMES
AGAINST INDIGENOUS PEOPLE
THROUGHOUT THE AMERICAS.
HIS PREDECESSOR MET WITH SCHOOL
SURVIVORS IN 2009 AND EXPRESSED
SORROW FOR THEIR ABUSE.
>> SORROW IS NEVER ENOUGH.
ONE HAS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
FOR THE HARM THAT WAS DONE.
[*]
>> Reporter: CATHOLIC GROUPS
THAT RAN RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS
HAVE ISSUED APOLOGIES OVER THE
YEARS, BUT A STATEMENT FROM THE
POPE DELIVERED IN CANADA WAS A
KEY CALL TO ACTION FROM THE
TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION
COMMISSION.
>> WE HEARD REPEATEDLY FROM
SURVIVORS OF ABUSE IN CATHOLIC
RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS THEY NEEDED
TO HEAR AN APOLOGY FROM THE
CHURCH, AND THEY NEVER HEARD
ONE.
>> Reporter: THE POPE IS
EXPECTED TO EVENTUALLY VISIT
CANADA.
WHEN THAT HAPPENS, CALLS FOR AN
APOLOGY WILL NO DOUBT GROW
LOUDER.
RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL SURVIVORS SAY
THEIR FIGHT ISN'T OVER.
CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.
>>> SECURITY AND APOLOGY FROM
THE VATICAN IS JUST ONE OF THE
94 CALLS TO ACTION MADE BY THE
TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION
COMMISSION.
CBC NEWS HAS AN EXCLUSIVE
PROGRESS REPORT ON THOSE
MEASURES AND WHERE THEY STAND.
YOU CAN FIND IT AT THE WEBSITE.
>>> THE MATIS COMMUNITY HAS
ACCOMPLISHED A HISTORIC FIRST
BUYING THE ALBERTA LAND.
IT'S THE BEGINNING OF A BREAK
WITH THE PAST AND AN INVESTMENT
IN THE FUTURE.
WE ASKED PEOPLE THERE WHAT IT
MEANS.
>> Reporter: WAS IT ALREADY WELL
AHEAD IN DEVELOPMENT OF THE
MATIS UNION WHEN YOU WERE
GROWING UP?
>> Interview: YES.
YES.
THEY STARTED TO GET THEIR
HOUSING IN PLACE, AND THEIR
OPPORTUNITIES WERE STARTING TO
ADVANCE FURTHER THAN WHAT OURS
WERE AT THE TIME.
>> Reporter: CALL IT A TALE OF
TWO NATIONS.
FELIX FAICHNEY REMEMBERS THE
FIRST NATION NEXT DOOR,
INDEPENDENT, RELATIVELY WEALTHY.
>> WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FREEDOM TO
DO WHAT WE WANTED WITH OUR LAND.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME
OPPORTUNITIES AS THEY DID.
>> Reporter: OPPORTUNITIES TO
DEVELOP PROPERTY.
NOW POSSIBLE AFTER THE MATIS
COMMUNITY BOUGHT THE LAND FROM
THE PROVINCE OF ALBERTA.
>> WE WANT TO KIND OF START
CONVERTING THE OLDER UNITS INTO
SOMETHING MORE MODERN.
>> Reporter: DWAYNE HELPED
NEGOTIATE THE DEAL.
HE SAID THE MATIS DID NOT WANT
TO BUILD ON LAND THEY DIDN'T
OWN.
NOW THEY'RE BUILDING MORE
HOUSING, A COMMUNITY PAVILION
AND THAT SMALL TOWN CANADA ALL
ON TERRITORY FOR MATIS PEOPLE.
>> I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER
COMMUNITY THAT HAS DONE IT
ANYWHERE IN CANADA.
>> Reporter: THEY ARE FAIRLY
UNIQUELY PLACED.
THEIR HOME IS A SHORT DRIVE FROM
OILSANDS WHERE MANY MEMBERS ARE
EMPLOYED.
PONYING UP THE MONEY MAY NOT BE
EASY.
IT WAS A CHALLENGE FOR THEM,
TOO, UNTIL 2016 WHEN A LANDMARK
SUPREME COURT DECISION FOUND THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS THE SAME
OBLIGATIONS TOWARD MATIS PEOPLE
AS IT DOES TOWARD OTHER
INDIGENOUS NATIONS.
THEY SAY THAT RULING HELPED MOVE
NEGOTIATIONS FORWARD, AND THEY
HOPE OTHER MATIS NATIONS CAN
FIGURE OUT THEIR WAY TO CLAIM
THEIR LANDS.
>> TODAY'S WORLD, YOU KNOW,
WE'RE KIND OF LAYING THAT
FOUNDATION FOR OTHER MATIS
ORGANIZATIONS TO BE ABLE TO USE
AND ASSERT THEIR RIGHTS.
>> Reporter: HE'S ALREADY
THINKING ABOUT TOMORROW AND
BEYOND.
>> COMING UP, THE KIDS GROWING
UP, LIKE MY SON, IT CREATES
OPPORTUNITIES FOR HIM,
OPPORTUNITIES I DIDN'T HAVE.
>> Reporter: CBC NEWS, MASTI
COMMUNITY, ALBERTA.
>>> SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW
A SUPREME COURT DECISION CAN
CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE.
LET'S TURN NOW TO ANOTHER RULING
THAT HAD A DIFFERENT IMPACT.
ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, CRIMINAL
CASES HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT OF
COURT AS A RESULT OF THE
SO-CALLED JORDAN DECISION BY THE
SUPREME COURT OF CANADA IN 2016.
WE'VE TALLIED UP THE NUMBER
AHEAD OF THE GOVERNMENT'S PLANS
TO PRESENT WHAT IT HOPES WILL
HELP FIX THE PROBLEM.
TRIAL DELAYS SO LONG, THEY ARE
UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
THE JORDAN DECISION WAS A
SEISMIC EVENT IN THE JUSTICE
SYSTEM.
HERE'S THE BRIEF.
WHAT IS THE JORDAN DECISION?
JARRED ON WAS CHARGED WITH DRUG
OFFENCES AND TRAPPED IN A LEGAL
LIMBO UNABLE TO GET A TRIAL DATE
FOR FOUR YEARS.
THE SUPREME COURT SAID THAT WAS
A VIOLATION OF HIS CHARTER
RIGHTS AND PUT LIMITS ON HOW
LONG PROSECUTORS HAVE TO TRY
CRIMNATIONAL CASES.
CBC NEWS COUNTED 400 CASES
INCLUDING SOME FOR MURDER THAT
HAVE BEEN STAYED BECAUSE THEY
MISSED THAT DEADLINE.
AS WE EXPLAIN, THE IMPACT OF THE
DECISION HAS SPREAD BEYOND THE
CRIMINAL LAW.
>> Reporter: IIN A A WOODED LOT,
THESE LIVING A LIFE MORE REDUCE
TICK THAN SHE IMAGINED.
FIREWOOD FOR HEAT FROM A WOOD
STOVE.
>> AND NO RUNNING WATER, NO
ELECTRICITY.
>> Reporter: HER COMMON LAW
HUSBAND DIED FOUR YEARS AGO, BUT
THERE'S A LEGAL BATTLE OVER THE
ESTATE.
SHE CAN'T GET HER RIGHTFUL SHARE
UNTIL IT'S SETTLED.
SHE'S BROKE LIVING MAINLY ON A
SURVIVORS PENSION AND THE GOOD
WILL OF OTHERS.
IF THAT CASE GOES TO TRIAL, IT
WON'T BE SCHEDULED BEFORE 2021.
>> I GET IT.
I'VE GOT TO START OVER, BUT I
DIDN'T THINK I WAS GOING TO HAVE
TO START OVER FROM UNDER THE
BARREL.
IT'S TWISTED.
>> Reporter: HERS IS AN UNTOLD
NUMBER OF CIVIL CASES FACING
LENGTHY DELAYS THAT IN SOME
JURISDICTIONS GROW LONGER.
PART OF THE PROBLEM COMES
COURTESY OF THE SUPREME COURT OF
CANADA IN WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE
JORDAN DECISION OF JULY 2016.
IT RULED CRIMINAL TRIALS MUST BE
COMPLETED WITHIN 18 MONTHS FOR
RELATIVELY MINOR CASES OR 30
MONTHS FOR MORE SERIOUS
OFFENCES.
THE SYSTEM IS STRAINING TO MEET
THOSE DEADLINES AND IN SOME
PROVINCES, THEY'RE USING CIVIL
COURT RESOURCES TO DO IT.
RECENTLY RETIRED CHIEF JUSTICE
OF ALBERTA NEIL WITTMAN SAYS THE
CIVIL COURT SYSTEM IS SUFFERING
AS A RESULT.
>> YOU CAN'T KEEP UP THE PACE
THIS COURT IS PRESENTLY BEING
SUBJECTED TO FOR LONG PERIODS OF
TIME.
AND GET THE QUALITY OF JUSTICE
THAT I THINK THE PUBLIC
DESERVES.
>> Reporter: THE WAIT FOR A
CIVIL TRIAL AVERAGED 92 WEEKS.
THIS YEAR, THAT WAIT HAS
DOUBLED.
ALBERTA IS LEAST PREPARED TO
DEAL WITH ALL OF THIS BECAUSE
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FAILED TO
FILL VACANCIES.
>> ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS HAS
BEEN FILLED SO FAR.
MAYBE ONE.
>> Reporter: MARK IS PRESIDENT
OF THE ALBERTA CIVIL TRIAL
LAWYERS ASSOCIATION AND SANDRA'S
LAWYER.
>> YOU DON'T WANT ALLEGED
MURDERERS WALKING THE STREETS.
WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LESS
SERIOUS FAMILY LAW OR ESTATE
ARGUMENTS OR PERSONAL INJURY,
THEY ALL JUST KIND OF GOT PUT ON
THE BACK BURNER.
>> THE PEOPLE LIKE ME, I DON'T
EVEN THINK WE'RE ON THE BACK
BURNER.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN PUT ON THE
SIDE TO COOL.
>> Reporter: WHERE SHE COUNTS
THE DAYS WAITING FOR JUSTICE.
>>> COURT IS STRETCHED THIN.
A SUPREME COURT RULING THAT
FORCES ACTION AND CREATES
COMMOTION.
IT SOUNDS UNPRECEDENTED, BUT IT
IS NOT.
WHAT'S BECOME KNOWN AS ANOTHER
DECISION, THEY RULED THAT AN
ACCUSED SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO
TRIAL BEFORE A REASONABLE TIME.
THERE WAS THE 1990 DECISION.
BACK THEN, THE SUPREME COURT
SUGGESTED ANYTHING MORE THAN 8
MONTHS WAS UNREASONABLE.
IN ONTARIO, IN PARTICULAR, THE
IMPACT WAS DIAGRAM THE A I CAN.
THE PROVINCE SCRAMBLED TO WHERE
JUDGES APPROVED MORE MONEY FOR
COURTS.
THE ACCUSED IN 25,000 CRIMINAL
CASES WALKED AWAY.
>> HOW DO YOU FEEL RIGHT NOW.
>> A PERMANENT SMILE ON MY FACE.
I FEEL VERY GOOD.
IT'S ALL OVER.
>> IN 1992, THE SUPREME COURT
SOFTENED THE POSITION AND THE
JUDICIAL CHAOS SUBSIDED.
>> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL IF
THE ORIGINAL DECISION HAD
CLEARLY STATED THAT THE
PRINCIPLES SET OUT THERE WITH
PRINCIPLES AND WERE NOT RIGID
TIME LINES.
>> THE PROBLEMS THAT SPARKED THE
DECISION GOT WORSE ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
A DECADE LATER, TIME LINES FOR
CRIMINAL TRIALS ARE BACK AND SO
ARE THE CONSEQUENCES.
>>> IAN CARTER KNOWS A LOT ABOUT
THESE ISSUES.
VICE CHAIR OF THE CANADIAN BASH
ASSOCIATION'S CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SECTION.
I KNOW THE CBA HAS BEEN TALKING
TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ABOUT
HOW TO REDUCE THE DELAYS IN
COURT.
GIVE ME ONE EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING
YOU HOPE TO SEE TOMORROW.
>> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
WE'VE RECOMMENDED IS TO DEAL
DIFFERENTLY WITH MORE MINOR
OFFENCES AND WHAT WE CALL
ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE
OFFENCES.
SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
AN INDIVIDUAL IS ARRESTED AND
CHARGED, RELEASED ON BAIL.
PART OF THE BAIL CONDITIONS IS
NOT TO DRINK ALCOHOL.
HE THEN GOES OUT AND IS CAUGHT
CONSUMING ALCOHOL AND HE'S
ARRESTED AGAIN AND BROUGHT BACK
FOR MORE CHARGES, MORE COURT
TIME, MORE USE OF PROSECUTORS
AND DEFENCE LAWYERS.
THAT CLOGS UP THE SYSTEM BY
DEALING WITH THOSE MATTERS
OUTSIDE OF OUR REGULAR CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM IN AN
ADMINISTRATIVE WAY IS GOING TO
SAVE TIME AND RESOURCES.
>> IT SOUNDS SIMPLE, BUT
SOMETIMES IN THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM, SIMPLE THINGS
TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S A CHANGE
THAT WILL BE MADE?
>> I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT,
IN PARTICULAR DEALING WITH
ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE
OFFENCES.
I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE SOMETHING
IN THE LEGISLATION TOMORROW ON
THAT.
>> THEY HAVE PUT TOGETHER AND I
THINK YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THIS,
KIND OF A TOP TEN LIST.
IT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE WHAT YOU
JUSTENING INNED, ALSO THINGS
THAT WILL COST MONEY LIKE MORE
JUDGES, DID YOU TELL ME SO FAR,
WHAT IMPACT THE JORDAN DECISION
HAS HAD THAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU'RE
IN ONTARIO COURTS.
>> WELL, I THINK IT SENDS
SHOCKWAVES THROUGH THE JUSTICE
SYSTEM, ALL PARTICIPANTS THAT I
SEE FROM JUDGES TO PROSECUTORS
TO DEFENCE LAWYERS, IT'S BEEN A
WAKEUP CALL.
YOU SEE IN TERMS OF NEW
PROCEDURES, LOCALLY, IN TERMS OF
THE WAY CASES ARE TREATED,
THERE'S A DELAY THAT DIDN'T
EXIST BEFORE.
PART OF THE REASON IN JORDAN WAS
TO SHAKE THE PARTICIPANTS OUT OF
THEIR COMPLACENCY.
I THINK IT'S HAD THAT EFFECT
ALREADY.
>> I'VE HEARD SIMILAR STORIES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
IAN CARTER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> HERE'S WHAT ELSE WE'RE
WORKING ON TONIGHT FOR "THE
NATIONAL."
WE EXAMINED THE LEGACY OF PETTER
MUNK.
>>> WE CONTINUE OUR CBC NEWS
SERIES FROM THE GLOBAL RECYCLING
CHAMPION MUCH.
-- CHAMPION MUCH.
WE TOLD YOU WHY CHINA IS TURNING
AWAY THE GARBAGE.
>>> COMING TO CANADA FOR A
SECOND CHANCE, BUT AS CBC NEWS
INVESTIGATION REVEALS SOME
PEOPLE SEEKING ASYLUM IN QUEBEC
MAY HAVE BEEN EXPLOITED WHILE
WORKING FOR WORK.
>> THERE WAS NO TRAINING TO
SPEAK OF.
BASICALLY, SOMEBODY WOULD SHOW
YOU SOMETHING ONCE, AND AS LONG
AS YOU CAN KIND OF KEEP DOING
IT, THEY WOULD JUST KEEP PUSHING
TO YOU DO IT
>>> WHEN THE U.S. DECIDED LAST
YEAR TO END ITS TEMPORARY
PROTECTION FOR HAITIANS
DISPLACED BY THE EARTHQUAKE IN
2010, IT PROMPTED WAVES OF
ASYLUM SEEKERS ACROSS THE BORDER
INTO THIS COUNTRY, INTO CANADA.
BUT THEY ENTERED A CLOGGED
SYSTEM THAT MEANT A LONG WAIT
FOR A REFUGEE DECISION AND A
TOUGH TIME FINDING WORK AND
MAKING ENDS MEET.
BUT CBC NEWS LEARNED IT'S BEEN
TOUGH FOR SOME EXPLOITED IN A
SHADOWY WORLD OF TEMP AGENCY
WORK.
WE HAVE ONE MAN'S DEVASTATING
STORY.
>> Reporter: THE CITY OF
MONTREAL SLEEPS.
CERTAIN STATIONS ARE A HUB OF
ACTIVITY.
INSIDE, TEMP AGENCY CREWS AWAIT
WORKERS.
WE'VE CHANGED HIS NAME FOR
SAFETY.
HE WAS RECRUITED AT A METRO
STATION IN SEPTEMBER WHEN A MAN
WALKED UP TO HIM AND OFFERED HIM
A JOB. [Speaking Foreign
Language]
>> Reporter: HE WAS COLLECTING
SOCIAL ASSISTANCE BUT AGREED TO
WORK DESPERATE TO PAY BACK THE
THOUSANDS IT COST HIM TO TRAVEL
FROM HAITI TO CANADA FOR ASYLUM.
ON THAT FIRST MORNING, HE SAYS
HE SQUEEZED INTO A VAN HEADED
FOR A PORT PLANT.
ON THE WAY, THE VAN STOPPED AND
HE AND OTHERS WERE HANDED SLIPS
OF PAPER WITH THE NAME AND A
SOCIAL INSURANCE NUMBER ON THEM.
[Speaking Foreign
Language]
>> Reporter: $10 AN HOUR CASH IS
WHAT THE TEMP AGENCY PAID HIM TO
WORK AT THE MEAT PLANT.
THIS EMPLOYEE WORKED FOR A TEMP
AGENCY OWNED BY THE SAME MAN HE
WORKED FOR.
WE'RE PROTECTING HIS IDENTITY
BECAUSE HE'S AFRAID IT COULD
COST HIM HIS JOB.
>> THERE WAS NO TRAINING TO
SPEAK OF.
SOMEBODY WOULD SHOW YOU
SOMETHING ONCE, AND AS LONG AS
YOU COULD KIND OF KEEP DOING IT,
THEY WOULD JUST KEEP PUSHING TO
YOU DO IT FASTER.
>> Reporter: THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT
PAOLO SAID HAPPENED TO HIM IN
OCTOBER WHEN HE WAS ASSIGNED TO
WORK ON A MACHINE THAT SPLICES
FAT OFF PORK.
[Speaking Foreign
Language]
>> Reporter: HIS HAND GOT
CAUGHT, AND THE FLESH WAS RIPPED
AWAY.
[Speaking Foreign
Language]
>> Reporter: HE WAS RUSHED TO
HOSPITAL AND SURGEONS PERFORMED
A SKIN GRAFT.
NOW HE STRUGGLES WITH EVERYDAY
TASKS.
THE PRESIDENT SAYS HE REMEMBERS
THE ACCIDENT.
THAT'S THE FIRST TIME HE SAYS HE
FOUND OUT THAT PAOLO HAD BEEN
WORKING ILLEGALLY.
[Speaking French]
>> Reporter: HE INSISTS THAT
PALOO WAS PROPERLY TRAINED.
WE USED A HIDDEN CAMERA.
WE ASKED IF THEY HIRE PEOPLE
WITHOUT WORK PERMITS.
WE TRACED THE SOCIAL INSURANCE
NUMBER THIS TEMP AGENCY GAVE TO
PAOLO AND FOUND THE REAL PERSON
IT BELONGS TO.
HE TOLD US HE WORKED FOR A TEMP
AGENCY LAST YEAR, AN AGENCY THAT
BELONGS TO THE SAME PERSON PAOLO
WORKS FOR.
HE HAD NO IDEA HIS PERSONAL
INFORMATION WAS BEING USED FOR
ANOTHER WORKER.
WE TRIED SEVERAL TIMES TO GET AN
INTERVIEW WITH THE TEMP AGENCY
OWNER HECTOR RODRIGUEZ.
HE DIDN'T ANSWER OUR CALLS.
BUT IN AN E-MAIL, HE DENIED ALL
ALLEGATIONS AND SAID THEY ONLY
HIRE WORKERS WITH WORK PERMITS.
PAOLO IS FOCUSED ON RECOVERY
WHICH COULD TAKE A YEAR.
THIS MONTREAL LABOUR LAWYER IS
HELPING HIM FILE A WORKERS'
COMPENSATION CLAIM.
>> THERE'S A PROBLEM HERE IN
CANADA.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A SYSTEM IN
WHICH WE ARE USING PEOPLE --
VULNERABLE PEOPLE TO DO
PRECARIOUS JOBS.
>> Reporter: THE ORDEAL HASN'T
TAINTED PAOLO'S IMAGE OF CANADA.
[Speaking Foreign
Language]
>> Reporter: A COUNTRY THAT HE
HOPES TO WORK IN LEGITIMATELY
ONE DAY.
CBC NEWS, MONTREAL.
>>> ASYLUM SEEKERS ARE ALLOWED
TO WORK IN CANADA.
FIRST, THEY HAVE A MEDICAL
EXAMINATION.
THEN THEY CAN APPLY FOR A WORK
PERMIT AND A SOCIAL INSURANCE
NUMBER.
THE GOVERNMENT SAYS IT NORMALLY
TAKES 30 DAYS TO PROCESS A WORK
PERMIT APPLICATION.
>>> STILL AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL," WE CONTINUE OUR
SPECIAL CBC NEWS SERIES ON
RECYCLING.
AND TONIGHT WE'LL GO TO BRITAIN,
A COUNTRY SEARCHING FOR A
SOLUTION TO ITS COFFEE CUP
PROBLEM.
COFFEE DRINKERS THROW AWAY 2.5
BILLION OF THESE CUPS IN A YEAR.
THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE
TRANSFORMING THEM INTO PAPER
THAT GETS MADE INTO
>>> TONIGHT ON "THE NATIONAL,"
FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE SHE WAS
SHOT BY THE TALIBAN, SHE IS BACK
IN PAKISTAN.
THE PAKISTANI TV STATION AIRED
VIDEO OF HER NOW 20 YEARS OLD
LANDING JUST HOURS AGO IN
ISLAMABAD.
SHE'S EXPECTED TO HOLD MEETINGS
WITH THE PRIME MINISTER, BUT
OTHER DETAILS OF THE TRIP ARE
BEING KEPT SECRET.
>>> AN EMOTIONAL DAY IN AN
OTTAWA COURTROOM AS A JOURNALIST
TESTIFIED AT HER KIDNAPPER'S
SENTENCING HEARING.
SHE SAID THE 15 MONTHS SHE SPENT
IN CALF TIFFITY LEFT HER --
CAPTIVITY LEFT HER SUICIDAL.
HER KIDNAPPER FACES A POSSIBLE
LIFE SENTENCE, BUT HE ASKED THE
COURT TODAY FOR FORGIVENESS,
SAYING HE'S A CHANGED MAN.
>>> MAJOR PROGRESS ANNOUNCED
TODAY IN THE UK INVESTIGATION
INTO THE POISONING OF A FORMER
RUSSIAN SPY AND HIS DAUGHTER.
BRITISH POLICE NOW BELIEVE THE
PAIR FIRST CAME NO CONTACT WITH
THE NERVE AGENT HIGH TEMPERATURE
HIS FRONT DOOR.
THEY FOUND TRACES IN LOTS OF
PLACES, BUT POLICE SAY THE
HIGHEST CONCENTRATION WAS RIGHT
ON THE DOOR ITSELF.
BRITISH OFFICIALS BLAME THE
RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT.
MOSCOW DENIED ANY INVOLVEMENT.
>>> WELL, THE UUK HAS A PLASTICS
PROBLEM.
PEOPLE GO THROUGH 13 BILLION
PLASTIC DRINK BOTTLES A YEAR.
A LOT ARE RECYCLED AT PLANTS IN
EAST LONDON, BUT MORE THAN 3
BILLION GET TOSSED INTO THE
TRASH OR ON TO THE STREETS.
SO CHANGE THAT, THE BRITISH
GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED IT IS
INTRODUCING A DEPOSIT RETURN
SCHEME.
THE DETAILS ARE STILL BEING
WORKED OUT, BUT CONSUMERS CAN
GET A SMALL AMOUNT OF CASH WHEN
THEY RETURN THEIR EMPTY BOTTLES.
WE'LL GO BACK IN A MOMENT.
THAT IS NOT THE ONLY COUNTRY
THAT ARE PLASTIC IS PILING UP.
WE LAUNCHED A SERIES ON HOW WE
CAN REDUCE, REUSE, AND RETHINK
RECYCLING.
WE LEARN WHY MODERN LIFESTYLES
CHANGED WHAT CANADIANS TOSS IN
THEIR BINS AND WHY GOVERNMENTS
ARE PAYING THE PRICE.
>> Reporter: SARA DOES WHATEVER
SHE CAN TO REDUCE HER
ENVIRONMENTAL FOOTPRINT
INCLUDING RECYCLING.
>> WE HAVE OUR EGG CARTONS AND
OUR PLASTIC PACKAGING FOR FRUIT
AND JERKY.
THE THINGS I'M NOT SURE ABOUT,
BUT JUST IN CASE.
>> Reporter: SHE GETS HER NEWS
ONLINE, SO THERE'S NO NEWSPRINT
IN HER BOXES.
>> NO NEWSPAPERS NO.
>> Reporter: THERE ARE A FEW TIN
CANS AND A GLASS JAR.
ITEMS THAT SHE WAS ORIGINALLY
DESIGNED TO DEAL WITH.
NOW, THERE IS ALSO A LOT OF
PLASTIC.
>> EVEN IF IT WAS ONE KIND, I
HAVE NO IDEA IF I CAN RECYCLE
IT.
IT IS COMPLICATED.
>> Reporter: TWO INCOME FAMILIES
AND MORE SINGLE HOUSEHOLDS MEAN
A GROWING APPETITE FOR TAKE-OUT,
PREPARED FOOD AND INDIVIDUALIZED
PORTIONS.
IT ALL COMES IN CONVENIENCE
PACKAGING, OFTEN MADE OF
COMPOSITE MATERIAL.
>> IT CAN BE CONFUSING FOR
CONSUMERS WHO ARE USING THESE
PRODUCTS.
IT FEELS LIKE A DIFFERENT TYPE
OF PLASTIC.
>> Reporter: THE MATERIAL IS
HARDER TO SORT, HARDER TO
RECYCLE.
>> IF YOU WERE TO MELT THIS
DOWN, THIS FINISH PRODUCT WILL
HAVE A TYPE OF THE MAIN PLASTIC,
BUT IT WILL HAVE CONTAMINATION
FROM THE OTHER PLASTICS.
SO IT'S A LESSER GRADE, AND YOU
CAN DO LESS THINGS WITH THAT
TYPE OF RECYCLED PLASTIC.
>> Reporter: THAT MAKES IT
HARDER TO SELL.
IT MEANS GOVERNMENTS NEED TO
INVEST IN TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN
ADAPT TO NEW KINDS OF PACKAGING,
BUT THAT COMES WITH A PRICE TAG.
IT'S FORCING MUNICIPALITIES TO
COME UP WITH NEW WAYS TO FUND
THEIR RECYCLING PROGRAMS LIKE
MANDATING PRODUCERS TO PICK UP
MORE OF THE COSTS.
>> WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE
MANAGEMENT OF MATERIAL,
PRODUCERS SHOULD BE PAYING THAT
COST.
THEY'RE PUTTING IT ON TO THE
MARKET AND WHY SHOULD
MUNICIPALITIES BE FINANCIALLY
RESPONSIBLE FOR IT?
>> Reporter: SO FAR, BC IS THE
ONLY PROVINCE WHERE PRODUCERS
ARE 100% RESPONSIBLE FOR
RECYCLING COSTS FINDING MARKETS
IN EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF THE
RECYCLING.
ONTARIO AND MANITOBA ARE MOVING
IN THAT DIRECTION.
IT COMES DOWN TO THIS.
MUNICIPALITIES NEED TO MAKE
RECYCLING EASY.
>> IF YOU MAKE RECYCLING
INCONVENIENT, PEOPLE WON'T
PARTICIPATE.
>> YOU'RE ON THE THIRD FLOOR.
HOW HARD IS IT TO GET THIS TO
WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO TO BE
RECYCLED?
>> Reporter: IT SHOULDN'T BE --
>> IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT HARD,
BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER WHEN
IT'S COLD, YOU HAVE TO PUT ON
YOUR COAT.
THE DOOR LOCKS WHEN YOU LEAVE.
THIS IS ALMOST MORE THAN ONE
TRIP DOWN.
>> Reporter: EVEN WHEN IT'S NOT
EASY FOR SARA, IT'S ALWAYS WORTH
THE EFFORT.
CBC NEWS.
WINNIPEG.
>>> LAST NIGHT WE TOOK YOU TO
CHINA SHOWING YOU HOW MUCH AND
HOW MESSY THE BUSINESS OF
RECYCLING IS IN THAT COUNTRY.
BUT CHINA SAYS IT'S NOT TAKING
IN THAT GARBAGE ANYMORE.
A DECISION THAT HAS CHANGED THE
WAY COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD
HAVE TO HANDLE THEIR WASTE.
A DECISION MOST WEREN'T READY
FOR.
SO TONIGHT, WE'RE ASKING,
WITHOUT CHINA, WHAT'S HAPPENING
TO THE WORLD'S WASTE?
THESE ARE I CAN PICTURES NOW
BANNED IN CHINA, BUT THEY'VE
LEFT THEIR MARK.
THEY'RE FROM A 2016 DOCUMENTARY,
PLASTIC CHINA ABOUT FAMILIES WHO
DANGEROUSLY LIVE OFF WHAT WE
THROW OUT.
KIDS WHO HAVE LEARNED THAT BY
BURNING PLASTIC, THE SMELL OF
THE TAX -- TOXIC SMOKE CAN TELL
THEM WHAT IT'S MADE YOU OF AND
HOW IT'S SORTED.
YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND WHEN THIS
DOCUMENTARY WAS REVIEWED BY ONE
VERY IMPORTANT PERSON IN
BEIJING.
>> WE BELIEVE THAT THE PRESIDENT
XI JINPING WAS HORRIFIED BY THE
THOUGHT THIS PRACTICE WAS TAKING
PLACE IN HIS COUNTRY.
HIS BELIEF IS THAT WE NEED TO
NOW CUT OFF SOLID WASTE IMPORTS
TOTALLY.
>> Reporter: NOT LONG AFTER THE
DOCUMENTARY CAME OUT AND
MILLIONS SAW T THE COUNTRY
DECLARES IT WOULD CLOSE ITS
DOORS TO THE WORLD'S WASTE.
THEN, THE DOCUMENTARY WAS
BLOCKED FROM ONLINE SERVICES.
THE REST OF THE WORLD LEFT
REELING BY CHINA'S MOVE WHICH
INCLUDES BANNING SCRAP THAT
COULD BE REUSED.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF PERFECTLY
USABLE MATERIAL IS TURNED AWAY,
CHINESE MANUFACTURERS MIGHT HAVE
TO MAKE OR BUY NEW PLASTIC.
THEN THERE ARE THE SHIPS THAT
ABIDE BY THE RULES YET ARE
TURNED AWAY AT CHINESE PORTS OUT
OF CONFUSION.
THEY WANDER THE OCEAN.
SOME OF THE WASTE THEY CARRY
WILL GO TO LAND FILLS OR BE
BURNED.
LOOK AT WHAT STARTED HAPPENING
MID 2017 WHEN THE CHINESE
ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE.
PLASTIC EXPORTS STARTED DROPPING
FROM THE U.S. TO CHINA BUT
STARTED SURGING TOWARDS
SOUTHEAST ASIA.
THAILAND UP 400%.
MALAYSIA UP MORE THAN 200%.
CAN THEY HANDLE IT?
CONSIDER WHERE THE PHENOMENON OF
OCEAN PLASTICS ORIGINATES.
MUCH TO THE HORROR OF THE
PLASTIC CAMBODIA.
>> 95% OF THOSE ARE COMING FROM
ASIA.
IF WE CAN'T MANAGE THE WASTE
HERE AT THE MOMENT AND THEN WE
HAVE A MASS IRVIN FLUX OF OTHER
WASTE COMING FROM OTHER
COUNTRIES, I THINK IT'S ALREADY
PRETTY OUT OF CONTROL.
IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET EXTREME
LEVELS.
>> Reporter: IF THESE COUNTRIES
DON'T HAVE TIME TO DEVELOP SAFE
SYSTEMS TO HANDLE WASTE, CHINA'S
OLD PROBLEM WILL JUST BECOME
THEIR NEW ONE.
>>> ALL OF THIS MAY SOUND DIRE,
BUT THERE IS HOPE.
LET'S GO BACK TO THE UK.
PEOPLE THERE DRINK A LOT OF
COFFEE OFTEN ON THE GO.
EACH MINUTE ABOUT 500 USED CUPS
ARE TOSSED OUT AND ONLY A
FRACTION GET RECYCLED.
BUT AS THOMAS DAIGLE SHOWS US
THE BRITS SEEM DETERMINED TO
CHANGE THAT.
>> Reporter: LIKE BLACK LAVA
FLOWING FROM A BOTTOMLESS
VOLCANO, SOME OF THIS HOT COMES
FROM AN UNLIKELY SOURCE.
THEY CALL IT CUP CYCLING.
NEW TECHNOLOGY IN OLD
SURROUNDINGS.
265-YEAR-OLD PAPER MILL IN
NORTHERN ENGLAND CHURNING OUT
ROLLS AND ROLLS USING LOADS OF
USED COFFEE CUPS.
THIS PROCESS IS UNIQUE IN THE
UK.
THERE'S NOT TOO MANY PLANTS
AROUND THE WORLD THAT HAVE THIS
CAPABILITY.
THEY'RE EMPTIED AND PACKED
TOGETHER.
EVERY BAIL HERE WAITING FOR A
NEW LEASE ON LIFE.
COFFEE DRINKERS THROW AWAY 2.5
BILLION OF THESE IN A YEAR.
THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE
TRANSFORMING THEM INTO PAPER
THAT GETS MADE INTO SHOPPING
BAGS.
FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE BAGS, ONE
CUP HAS BEEN RECYCLED.
BEFORE THAT BAG A MADE, THE CUPS
ARE LOADED AND THE
TRANSFORMATION BEGINS.
THE MACHINES SEPARATING THE
PAPER CUP FROM THE PLASTIC
LINER, HEATING THE PULP, ADDING
COLOUR AND SOMETHING OLD IS NEW
AGAIN.
ABOUT 20% OF THAT HUGE ROLL OF
PAPER COMES FROM USED CUPS.
THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF SHOWS IN
THIS COFFEE OBSESSED COUNTRY.
>> I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A REUSABLE
CUP, BUT I'M ON A COFFEE RUN TO
THE OFFICE.
WE'RE NOT AS EFFICIENT AS WE
SHOULD BE.
>> THANK YOU LOOK AT THE LITTER
IN THE -- IF YOU LOOK AT THE
LITTER IN THE STREET, THERE'S
LOADS OF IT.
>> Reporter: IT CAN SEEM LIKE
THERE'S A CAFE ON EVERY CORNER.
WHAT TO DO WITH ALL THOSE CUPS?
THE SEALED PLASTIC LINER INSIDE
STOPPED THE PARTICIPATE FRESH
GET -- PAPER FROM GETTING SOGGY.
IT MAKES IT HARD TO SEPARATE AND
RECYCLE, A PROBLEM LEADING TO
CREATIVE SOLUTIONS.
SOME COFFEE SHOPS WILL GIVE
CUSTOMERS A FEW CENTS OFF FOR
USING A REUSABLE CUP.
HOW ABOUT PAYING MORE FOR A
DISPOSABLE ONE.
THAT'S WHAT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE
SUGGESTED AS A SOLUTION.
>> WE HAVE PSYCHOLOGISTS THAT
PEOPLE ARE MUCH MORE RECEIPTIVE
TO A CHARGE THAN A DISCOUNT.
>> Reporter: HER COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDED A 25 PENCE LATTE
LEVY, 40 CENTS A CUP.
IT SPURRED SOME COFFEE SHOPS TO
GIVE DISCOUNTS TO CUSTOMERS
SWITCHING TO REUSABLE CUPS.
MARTIN MEYER'S IDEA GOES
FURTHER.
>> WE PUT A THIN LAYER OF
PLASTIC.
>> Reporter: IT ALLOWS THE PAPER
AND PLASTIC TO BE SEPARATED FOR
RECYCLING.
>> WE HAVE GOTTED CANADIAN
CUP -- GOT THE CANADIAN CUP
HERE.
>> Reporter: IT'S STILL A LONG
WAY OFF FROM MASS DISTRIBUTION,
THOUGH, AND BACK AT THE PAPER
MILL, THEY'RE ONLY CONVERTING A
FRACTION OF THE 500 MILLION CUPS
THE PLANT CAN HANDLE IN A YEAR.
>> THERE ISN'T THE SUPPLY CHAIN
THERE IN ORDER TO COLLECT THE
CUPS AND BRING THEM TO US.
THE PROBLEM I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE
IS TO RUN OUT OF CAPACITY.
>> Reporter: FOR THE COFFEE CUP
PROBLEM, THIS IS ONE SOLUTION,
BUT THERE'S NO QUICK FIX.
THOMAS DAIGLE, CBC NEWS,
ENGLAND.
>>> WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE
BRINGING YOU STORIES OF THE
GLOBAL RECYCLING CHALLENGE IN
THE WEEKS AHEAD, INCLUDING SOME
OF THE GOOD IDEAS OUT THERE TO
MAKE A LITTLE LESS MESS ON THE
PLANET.
>>> IF YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON
THIS SERIES, CBC NEWS HAS
CREATED A FACEBOOK PAGE.
COMMENTS ON THE STORIES AND
SHARE YOUR IDEAS ON HOW WE CAN
RETHINK
>>> PETER MUNK IS BEING
REMEMBERED TONIGHT FOR THE RISK
TAKING ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT
AND GENEROSITY.
THE FOUNDER OF BARRICK GOLD DIED
TODAY.
MUNK FELT HE COULD NEVER DO
ENOUGH TO REPAY WHAT CANADA DID
FOR HIM.
JACQUELINE HANSEN LOOKS BACK AT
HIS LIFE AND LEGACY.
>> Reporter: A FOCUSED BUSINESS
LEADER WHO TRULY BELIEVED IN
CANADA.
PETER MUNK CAME TO THIS COUNTRY
WHEN HE WAS 20 YEARS OLD.
HIS FAMILY FLED HUNGARY.
>> THEY CAME FROM A WEALTHY
FAMILY, BUT THEY ARRIVED HERE
PENNYLESS.
>> Reporter: HE BECAME A
RESILIENT ENTREPRENEUR.
>> WHEN HE WENT OFF TO
SOMETHING, THE WHOLE REST OF THE
WORLD CEASED TO EXIST.
>> Reporter: HE STARTED A HOTEL
CHAIN AND REAL ESTATE VENTURES.
>> IT WAS A RAPID RIDES FROM
BEING AN IMMIGRANT BOY.
>> Reporter: THAT WAS JUST THE
BEGINNING.
HIS BIGGEST CAREER SUCCESS WAS
BARRICK GOLD.
HE BET ON A MINE IN NEVADA AND
WON.
>> THE LARGEST GOLD MINING
COMPANY IN THE WORLD.
THAT'S GOT TO SOUND PRETTY GOOD.
>> IT DOES.
>> Reporter: HIS SUCCESS ENABLED
HIM TO DO SO MUCH MORE.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE
SOMETHING BEHIND THAT MAKES A
DIFFERENCE TO CANADA.
>> Reporter: MUNK DONATED NEARLY
$300 MILLION.
>> HE DIDN'T JUST GIVE THE MONEY
AND SAY GIVE ME A CALL.
LET ME KNOW HOW IT'S GOING.
HE WAS DEEPLY ENGAGED IN
EVERYTHING THAT WE DID.
>> Reporter: HE GAVE $175
MILLION TO THE PETER MUNK
CARDIAC CENTRE.
>> SOMEONE WOULD COME UP TO HIM
AND SEE, ARE YOU PETER MUNK?
I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN.
HE WOULD SAY YES AND IF THERE
ARE RESPONSE WAS THANK YOU, YOU
SAVED MY MOTHER'S LIFE, THAT WAS -- HE TOL D ME FREQUENTLY
THAT BROUGHT HIM MORE JOY THAN
ANYTHING ELSE.
>> Reporter: MUNK ALSO WANTED
CANADIANS TO THINK OUTSIDE OF
THEIR COUNTRY.
>> PETER'S CAREER, HIS LIFE IS
REALLY A ROAD MAP OF HOW TO MAKE
CANADA MATTER GLOBALLY.
>> Reporter: HIS NAME LIVED ON
AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO AND
THE MUNK DEBATES.
>> LOOKED ME RIGHT IN THE EYE
AND SAID THESE ARE GOING TO BE
WORLD CLASS DEBATES.
>> Reporter: DEDICATED AND
FOCUSED NOT ONLY ON HIS SUCCESS
BUT ALSO ON CANADA'S.
JACQUELINE HANSEN, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
S WHO WENT TO WAR
FOR THIS COUNTRY ARE SADLY
EMBLEMATIC ON WHAT CAN HAPPEN
WHEN THEY COME HOME FROM BATTLE
BUT STILL CAN'T ESCAPE IT.
WE MET A FAMILY THAT NODES THIS
ALL TOO WELL -- KNOWS THIS ALL
TOO WELL.
>> THIS ONE IS RON'S.
>> Reporter: TWO SILVER CROSSES
IN MEMORY OF TWO SONS.
>> THIS IS RYAN'S.
>> Reporter: THESE ARE THE
MEDAL'S NO MOTHER WANTS TO
RECEIVE.
MOST PERISH IN BATTLEFIELDS.
BUT THEY WATCH THEIR SONS SLIP
AWAY BEFORE THEIR EYES RIGHT
HERE ON CANADIAN SOIL.
>> NEITHER ONE OF THEM WERE THE
SAME WHEN THEY CAME BACK.
THEY JUST -- BUT RYAN, I DIDN'T
THINK --
>> HE DIED WITH RONNIE.
>> I THINK HIS LIFE WENT AT THE
SAME TIME.
>> Reporter: RON AND RYAN
ANDERSON WERE VETERANS OF
AFGHANISTAN.
IN 2007, THEY BOTH DEPLOYED AS
SERGEANTS WITH H COMPANY, THE
SECOND BATTALION ROYAL CANADIAN
REGIMEN.
THIS WAS A SHOOTING WAR, HOT,
SAVAGE, AND UNRELENTING.
CANADIAN TROOPS WERE DYING.
[*]
SIX KILLED ON EASTER SUNDAY THAT
YEAR WHEN THEIR LIGHT ARMORED
VEHICLE HIT AN IED.
ONE OF THE DEAD, A CLOSE FRIEND
OF THE BROTHERS.
RYAN ANDERSON WAS DISPATCHED TO
THE SCENE.
A COUPLE OF WEEKS LATER, RON
ANDERSON WAS PART OF A CONVOY
ATTACKED BY A SUICIDE BOMBER AND
A DAY AFTER THAT, RYAN'S OWN
ARMORED VEHICLE WOULD STRIKE AN
IED.
AFTER THEIR RETURN FROM
AFGHANISTAN, BOTH MEN WERE
DIAGNOSED WITH POSTTRAUMATIC
STRESS DISORDER.
RON STRUGGLED WITH HIS TREATMENT
FOR YEARS.
IN 2014, HE SHOT HIMSELF IN HIS
GARAGE.
RYAN, FIVE YEARS YOUNGER, WAS
DEVASTATED.
>> I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HIT
RYAN.
HE JUST GAVE UP.
HE LOST HIS BEST FRIEND, HIS
BROTHER.
>> Reporter: LIKE HIS BROTHER
BEFORE HIM, RYAN STRUGGLED.
HE WAS WITHDRAWN AND DEPRESSED.
THE BATTERY OF MEDICATIONS
PRESCRIBED BY DOCTORS,
ANTIDEPRESSANTS, ANTI-ANXIETY
DRUGS DIDN'T SEEM TO HELP.
SHELDON SERVED WITH BOTH
BROTHERS IN AFGHANISTAN AS A
SNIPER.
DEALING WITH HIS OWN PTSD, HE
COULD SEE HIS FRIEND SPIRALING
OUT OF CONTROL.
>> WHEN RONNIE PASSED AWAY, RYAN
TOOK THAT REALLY HARD.
HE JUST KIND OF SECLUDED
HIMSELF.
>> Reporter: THEN LAST OCTOBER
CAME THE CALL THE ANDER SONS
DREADED.
>> HE SAID, RYAN IS HERE
VISITING ME.
I SAID THAT'S GOOD.
I WAS GLAD.
HE SAID NO, HE'S NOT BREATHING.
WELL, I JUST ALMOST PASSED OUT.
>> Reporter: RYAN ANDERSON'S
HEART HAD STOPPED.
HE WAS 38 YEARS OLD.
ALONG WITH HIS MANY MEDICATIONS
FOR PTSD, A TOXICOLOGY REPORT
REVEALED TRACES OF COCAINE AND
CARFENTANIL.
VETERANS AFFAIRS WON'T COMMENT
ON THE ANDER SONS STORY
SPECIFICALLY, BUT INSISTS PTSD
TREATMENTS DO WORK.
>> I'VE TREATED PERSONALLY
HUNDREDS OF MILITARY MEMBERS AND
VETERANS, AND I KNOW THAT MOST
PEOPLE, THEY WORK HARD IN
TREATMENT DESPITE DISABLING
SYMPTOMS, AND THEY DO RECOVER.
>> Reporter: NOW WITH BOTH SONS
GONE, PETER AND MAUREEN'S SIX
GRANDCHILDREN ARE FATHERLESS.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
MILITARY OR VETERANS AFFAIRS
COULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY TO
KEEP RON AND RYAN ALIVE, BUT
WITH THEIR ELDEST GRANDSON
ALREADY PLANNING TO ENLIST AFTER
HIGH SCHOOL, THEIR HOPE IS THAT
IT WILL BE BETTER FOR THE NEXT
GENERATION OF SOLDIERS.
>> I ONLY HOPE SO.
I REALLY DO.
I JUST HOPE FOR THE BEST.
>> Reporter: CBC NEWS, LINCOLN,
NEW BRUNSWICK.
>>> OF ALL THE VETERANS
RECEIVING A DISABILITY BENEFIT
RELATED TO SERVICE IN
AFGHANISTAN, MORE THAN HALF ARE
BEING COMPENSATED FOR PTSD.
THE NUMBER OF RECIPIENTS HAS
BEEN RISING FROM 3,000 IN 2014
TO NEARLY 5,000 IN 2017.
>>> GO DEEPER ON THE STORIES OF
THE DAY.
EARLIER IN THE DAY, SUBSCRIBE TO
OUR NEWSLETTER.
www.cbc.ca/news/thenational.
WE TAKE YOU INSIDE
>> Andrew: TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL", WE ARE KEEPING AN
EYE ON THE SITUATION IN
SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA.
IT WAS ANOTHER NIGHT OF
PROTESTS AFTER POLICE SHOT AND
KILLED AN UNARMED BLACK MAN TEN
DAYS AGO.
POLICE SAY THEY THOUGHT STEFAN
CLARK WAS ARMED WHEN THEY SHOT
AT HIM 20 TIMES IN HIS
GRANDMOTHER'S BACKYARD BUT HE
DIDN'T HAVE A GUN, JUST A CELL
PHONE.
CALIFORNIA'S ATTORNEY GENERAL
SAID HIS OFFICE WILL OVERSEE
THE INVESTIGATION INTO CLARK'S
DEATH.
THERE'S BEEN ANOTHER NOTABLE
DEPARTURE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE,
THIS TIME DAVID SHULKIN.
IN A TWEET, U.S. PRESIDENT
DONALD TRUMP SAID HE IS BEING
REPLACED BY WHITE HOUSE
PHYSICIAN, DR. RONNIE JACKSON.
THE PRESIDENT GAVE NO SPECIFIC
REASON FOR THE SHAKE UP BUT SPENDING FOCUS ED ON DENTAL
CARE,PUBLIC TRANSIT AND SENIOR
PROGRAMMES BUT THE CATCH, IT
WILL PUT ONTARIO BACK IN THE
RED FOR AT LEAST SIX YEARS.
>> Ian: SOMETIMES FORCE CREATES
MORE MAGIC THAN A SCRIPT WRITER
WOULD DARE AND THAT'S WHAT
HAPPENED IN MONTREAL LAST NIGHT.
A HOME RUN THAT CONNECTED ONE
TEAM'S HISTORY WITH ANOTHER'S
FUTURE.
AND AS BASEBALL FANS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY CONTINUE TO MARVEL, IT
IS OUR MOMENT.
>> OH MY!
WHAT A WAY TO CAP OFF THE
SPRING!
>> Ian: THAT MAY BE THE LOUDEST
OVATION EVER AT A BASEBALL
PRE-SEASON GAME, WITH A SWING
OF THE BAT, 19-YEAR-OLD
VLADIMIR GUERREIRO JUNIOR WON
THE GAME FOR THE BLUE JAYS LAST
NIGHT.
AND HERE IS THE BEST PART --
>> THAT'S THE WAY HE HITS.
>> VLADIMIR GUERRERO TO DEEP
RIGHT CENTRE.
>> Ian: THAT'S HIS DAD, THE
LAST SUPERSTAR FOR THE EXPOS.
HE HIT MORE THAN 200 HOMERS FOR
MONTREAL.
BUT LAST NIGHT HE WAS JUST A
PROUD FATHER TAKING THIS VIDEO.
>> Andrew: I MOVED TO MONTREAL
JUST A FEW MONTHS BEFORE THE
EXPOS FOR GOOD, LEFT THE CITY
TO MOVE TO WASHINGTON.
IN THE TEN YEARS, PEOPLE NEVER
STOPPED TALKING ABOUT BASEBALL.
THE LEGACY OF THE EXPOS,
BRINGING A TEAM BACK, AND I BET
MOMENTS LIKE THAT WILL KEEP
THAT CONVERSATION GOING FOR A
LONG TIME.
>> Ian: NO KIDDING.
IT ACTUALLY WASN'T THAT
INTERESTING OF A GAME, THEY
WERE GOING TO END THE GAME AS A
TIE AND THE MANAGER WAS QUOTED
AS SAYING, HE LOOKED AROUND THE
DUGOUT AND HE SAID HE THOUGHT
IT WAS MEANT TO BE TO PUT THE
19-YEAR-OLD TO RECREATE WHAT
HIS DAD DID, AND HE DID IT.
>> Adrienne: NICE APPETIZER, AS
EVERYBODY KNOWS, OR MAYBE YOU
DON'T, TOMORROW IS THE START OF
THE SEASON.
BLUE JAYS HAVE AN OPENER HERE
IN TORONTO AGAINST THE YANKEES,
A TEAM WITH LOTS OF YOUNG
STARS, SO GIDDY UP BLUE JAYS.
THAT IS "THE NATIONAL", FOR
MARCH 28th.
GOOD NIGHT.
>> Andrew: GOOD NIGHT.
>> Ian: GOOD NIGHT.
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