OKAY. >> Reporter: HUGE
RESPONSIBILITY. >>> LET'S BRING IN DEMOCRATIC
CONGRESSMAN ADAM SCHIFF. GLAD TO HAVE YOU CONGRESSMAN.
LET'S GET TO THE TOP OF THE HOUR.
WE HEARD THE PRESIDENT'S RESPONSE TO NORTH KOREA'S LATEST
PROVOCATIONS. HE'S NOT TAKING MILITARY ACTION
OFF THE TABLE. DO YOU THINK WE'RE HEADED DOWN
THAT PATH? >> I CERTAINLY HOPE NOT BECAUSE
THERE REALLY ARE NO GOOD MILITARY OPTIONS.
THE NORTH KOREANS CAN DEVASTATE SOUTH KOREA BY THE USE OF
CONVENTIONAL ARTILLERY. IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE
ADMINISTRATION TO PUT PRESSURE ON CHINA.
CHINA IS A REAL KEY TO CHOKING OFF THE ECONOMIC LIFELINE FOR
NORTH KOREA. BUT AN EXCESS OF SABER RATTLING
IS VERY DANGEROUS. WE HAVE AN UNPREDICTABLE LEADER
IN NORTH KOREA. WE DON'T WANT TO PROVOKE A
CONFRONTATION THAT COULD RESULT IN A TREMENDOUS LOSS OF LIFE.
AND WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO SEE THE PRESIDENT BACK HIMSELF INTO
A CORNER WHERE IF THE NORTH KOREAN LEADER GOES FORWARD WITH
A NUCLEAR TEST OR SOME OTHER PROVOCATION THAT THE PRESIDENT
FEELS HE NEEDS TO USE MILITARY FORCE OR ESSENTIALLY LOSE FACE.
SO IT'S A VERY TREACHEROUS SITUATION AND I WOULD URGE THE
PRESIDENT TO WALK SOFTLY AND CARRY A BIG STICK.
HE DOESN'T NEED BE BRANDISHING THE MILITARY OPTION IN A WAY
THAT COULD PROVOKE AN UNEXPECTED ESCALATION.
>> I WANT TO GET YOUR INTERPRETATION, SIR, INTO WHAT
WE HEARD FROM JOHN McCAIN WHICH WAS REACTION TO THE PRESIDENT'S
TWEET SAYING THE MISSILE TEST WAS DISRESPECTFUL TO CHINA.
IS THERE A STRATEGIC REASON WHY THE PRESIDENT SAID THAT?
COULD HE BE TRYING DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM THIS SITUATION?
>> I THINK WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO IS APPEAL TO THE CHINESE
PRESIDENT TO DO MORE AN BY SAYING THIS ISN'T REALLY
CRITICISM OR REFLECTION ON THE UNITED STATES, IT'S A REFLECTION
ON THE CHINESE LEADER. I DON'T THINK THAT WILL WORK.
IT MAY BE BETTER THAN GETTING OUT AND CACASTIGATING THE CHINE
LEADER. I THINK WHAT WILL RESONATE WITH
CHINA FRANKLY MORE THAN A TWEET SUGGESTING THIS IS A HUMILIATION
FOR THE CHINESE PRESIDENT IS TO VERY MATTER OF FACT MAKE IT
CLEAR TO CHINA THAT IF THEY DON'T CRACKDOWN ON NORTH KOREA
WE'LL BE FORCED TO TAKE STEPS TO DEFEND OURSELVES, DEFEND OUR
ALLIES IN THE REGION THAT CHINA ISN'T GOING TO WANT TO SEE
HAPPEN IN TERMS OF AN ACCELERATION OF MISSILE DEFENSE,
GREATER NAVAL PRESENCE AND MOST POTENT OF ALL IMPOSITION OF
SECONDARY SANCTIONS. >>> LET'S GET TO THE PRESIDENT'S
LATEST COMMENTS NOW ABOUT THE TRUMP-RUSSIA INVESTIGATION.
LET'S WATCH WHAT HE SAID FIRST IN AN INTERVIEW ON FRIDAY.
>> THEY CALLED THE FAKE RUSSIA STORY.
RUSSIA STORY WAS MADE UP BECAUSE THEY WERE EMBARRASSED BY THEIR
LOSS AND THIS TREMENDOUS LOSS, A LOSS LIKE NOBODY HAS EVER SEEN
BEFORE. AND NOT ONLY DID I WIN, I WON
EASILY. THEY MADE UP THIS RUSSIA THING
TO TRY TO DEFLECT BECAUSE THEY ARE EMBARRASSED BY WHAT
HAPPENED. >> CONGRESSMAN, HAVE YOU SEEN
ENOUGH THAT YOU'RE CONFIDENT THAT STATEMENT WILL BE PROVE
CONVENIENT FALSE THROUGH HARD EVIDENCE?
>> I THINK THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY IS QUITE UNIFORM IN ITS CONCLUSION
THAT RUSSIA WAS INVOLVED IN HACKING THE ELECTION.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT'S MOST STRIKING TO ME ABOUT THE 100
DAYS AND THE COMMENTS HE'S MADE JUST WITHIN THE LAST 24 TO 48
HOURS IS DAY 101 LOOKS A LOT LIKE DAY ONE.
DONALD TRUMP STILL IN DENIAL RUSSIANS WERE INVOLVED IN
HACKING OUR ELECTIONS. HE SAID ON "FACE THE NATION" IT
COULD HAVE BETWEEN CHINESE. HE'S REFUSING TO RELEASE HIS TAX
RETURNS. HE'S STILL BLAMING OBAMA FOR
THINGS OPINION HE'S STILL BAGGING ABOUT THE SIZE OF HIS
ELECTORAL COLLEGE WIN. THIS IS ALL THE SAME STUFF WE
HEARD ON DAY ONE. THIS IS VERY DISCOURAGING
BECAUSE IT SUGGESTS, MORE THAN SUGGESTS THAT THIS PRESIDENT IS
NOT GROWING WITH THE JOB AND WE CAN EXPECT THE SAME THING ON THE
FIRST DAY OF THE ADMINISTRATION, ON THE LAST DAY OF THIS
ADMINISTRATION. AND THAT, I THINK, IS DEEPLY
DISCOURAGE. >> WHERE DO YOU THINK THE
INVESTIGATION INTO RUSSIA, THOSE STANDS RIGHT NOW BASED ON
EVERYTHING YOU'VE LEARNED IN THE INVESTIGATION?
>> I CAN PROBABLY ONLY TALK ABOUT PROCESS AT THIS POINT.
I CAN REPORT, I THINK, AND PLEASED TO DO SO, WE'RE BACK ON
TRACK IN THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE.
WE'RE BACK TO SCHEDULING WITNESSES.
WE'RE REVIEWING ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS.
WE'RE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS.
WE'RE DOING THE STEPS WE SHOULD BE TAKE STEPS WE SHOULD BE
TAKING. THAT'S VERY POSITIVE.
WE'RE LOOKING INTO A RANGE OF ISSUES INCLUDING, OBVIOUSLY,
ISSUE OF ANY COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND
RUSSIA BUT ALSO THE U.S. GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO THE
HACKING. WERE WE TOO LETHARGIC HOW WE
DEALT WITH IT. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ISSUES OF
WHETHER THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WAS RIGHT IN ITS
CONCLUSION ABOUT WHY RUSSIA GOT INVOLVED IN TERMS OF HURTING
SECRETARY CLINTON AND HELPING DONALD TRUMP.
SO I THINK WE'RE PROCEEDING MUCH AS WE SHOULD BE.
>> I'M GOING TO TRY AND SEE IF I CAN GET YOU IN A DETAIL.
BASED ON SOMETHING YOU SAID IN AN EARLIER INTERVIEW WHEN YOU
SAID THEY USED, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY USED BLACKMAIL,
COMPROMISING MATERIAL, USED FINANCIAL ENTANGLEMENT, HACKING,
DUMPING, THEY'VE USED PAID MEDIA TROLLS.
SOME OF THESE THINGS WE KNOW THEY HAVE USED HERE.
CAN YOU BE SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT YOU KNOW THEY'VE USED HERE?
>> I THINK IT'S QUITE CLEAR FROM THE PUBLIC RECORD THAT,
OBVIOUSLY, THEY WERE DEEPLY INVOLVED IN HACKING DEMOCRATIC
INSTITUTIONS. THAT THEY WERE INVOLVED IN THE
DUMPING OF THESE DOCUMENTS THROUGH CUT-OUTS LIKE WIKILEAKS,
DC LEAKS. WE KNOW THEY HAD A VERY
EXTENSIVE MEDIA OPERATION. WE'RE INVESTIGATING SOME OF THE
OTHER TACTICS THAT THE RUSSIANS HAVE USED ELSEWHERE IN TERMS OF
WHETHER THEY HAVE THE EXPLICIT HELP OF U.S. PERSONS, WHETHER
THEY HAD COMPROMISING MATERIAL, WHETHER THEY USED FINANCIAL
ENTANGLEMENT TO GET PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT POLICIES THAT
ARE FAVORABLE TO RUSSIA. SO THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WE'RE
PROPERLY LOOKING INTO. THERE ARE STRATEGEMS THAT THE
RUSSIANS HAVE USED ELSEWHERE. >> HOW ABOUT THE HEARINGS.
SALLY YATES IS TESTIFYING FOR THE FIRST TIME ALONG WITH OTHERS
THAT INCLUDE THE FORMER DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE, JAMES
CLAPPER AND JAMES BRENNAN. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO COME OUT
OF THESE HEARINGS? >> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF HEARINGS
THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULE OR TRYING TO SCHEDULE.
WE HAVE ONE, A CLOSED HEARING WITH DIRECTORS COMEY AND REMARKS
THE DIRECTOR OF THE FBI AND DIRECTOR OF THE NSA.
THEY TESTIFIED IN OPEN SESSION. WE'LL HAVE A CLOSED HEARING LATE
NEXT WEEK WITH THEM SO WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS THEY WEREN'T ABLE
TO ANSWER IN OPEN SESSION. WE ALSO ATTEMPTED TO RESCHEDULE
THE OPEN HEARING WITH SALLY YATES AND CLAPPER AND BRENNAN.
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TALKING WITH THEIR TEAM TO TRY TO SET
THAT UP. OF COURSE, THERE'S ALSO A
HEARING THAT'S GOING TO GO ON WITH AT LEAST A COUPLE OF THOSE
WITNESSES IN THE SENATE. WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO
COORDINATE. I THINK WE'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT
WHAT WENT INTO MICHAEL FLYNN'S FIRING.
I THINK THE PUBLIC WILL LEARN A LOT MORE ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE
RUSSIAN INTERVENTION IN OUR ELECTION AND ONE OF THE REASONS
WHY I THINK THE OPEN HEARINGS ARE SO IMPORTANT IS WE CAN'T
CONDUCT THIS INVESTIGATION SOLELY IN PRIVATE SESSION AND AT
SOME LATER POINT THROW OPEN THE DOORS HERE'S OUR REPORT,
AMERICA, BELIEVE IT. WE NEED TO BRING THE COUNTRY
ALONG WITH THE INVESTIGATION. LET THEM UNDERSTAND IN GENERAL
OUTLINE WHO WE'RE TALKING TO, WHAT ISSUES WE'RE EXPLORING,
WHAT PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING TO THE DEGREE WE CAN, OBVIOUSLY
SOME WILL HAVE TO BE DONE IN CLOSED SESSION.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE PUBLIC INFORMED THE BEST WE CAN.
>> ANOTHER BIG ISSUE ON YOUR AGENDA YOU INTRODUCED A BILL IN
CONGRESS THIS WEEK WHICH IS AIMED AT FORMALLY AUTHORIZING
MILITARY FORCE AGAINST ISIS, AIG AND THE TALIBAN.
IS THIS IN RESPONSE TO THE 2001 UMF.
IS THAT OUTDATED. >> ABSOLUTELY.
THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET A VOTE ON FOR
SEVERAL YEARS. TIM KAINE HAS BEEN WORKING ON
THE SAME ISSUE IN HIS RESPECTIVE HOUSE.
BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU HAVE TO LAY A LOT OF
THE RESPONSIBILITY HERE WITH THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
WE'RE STILL USING THESE OLD AUTHORIZATIONS THAT DON'T FIT
THE CONFLICT WE'RE IN. INDEED BEING USED TO USE FORCE
AGAINST ISIS WHICH DIDN'T EVEN EXIST AT THE TIME OF 9/11 AND
THE AUTHORIZATION WE PASSED AFTER 9/11 AUTHORIZED FORCE ON
THOSE THAT ATTACKED US. ORGANIZATION THAT DIDN'T EXIST
AT THE TIME DOESN'T FIT. BECAUSE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
MASSACRE PRETTY IT THAT WAY GIVES THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
FREE REIGN TO DO THE SAME THING WHICH PUTS LITTLE LIMIT ON THE
PRESIDENT'S USE OF FORCE AGAINST ANYONE ASSOCIATED WITH AL QAEDA
OR ISIS. THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM IN TERMS
OF PROVIDING A REAL CHECK AND BALANCE BY THE CONGRESS ON THE
EXECUTIVE BRANCH AND ITS ABILITY TO MAKE WAR.
I WOULD HOPE WE CAN TAKE THIS UP OR SOMETHING LIKE IT THAT WOULD
REPEAL THESE OLD AUTHORITIES THAT WOULD SET A NEW MORE
LIMITED AUTHORITY AND RE-ESTABLISH CONGRESS'S ROLE IN
DECLARING WAR OR REFUSING TO AUTHORIZE WAR.
>> DO YOU AT ALL WORRY THAT CAN ALSO TIE THE HANDS OF A
PRESIDENT IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION?
DOES IT CONCERN YOU AT ALL? >> YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T BECAUSE
IN AN EMERGENCY THE PRESIDENT HAS THE ARTICLE II POWER TO DO
ANYTHING NECESSARY TO DEFEND THE COUNTRY OR TO DEFEND OUR TROOPS
OVERSEAS. SO HE HAS THAT INHERENT POWER.
FRANKLY FAR MORE WORRIED WE'VE GIVEN THIS PRESIDENT A BLANK
CHECK. WHILE I HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE IN
THE LAST PRESIDENT, THE LAST PRESIDENT WOULDN'T ABUSE THE
BLANK CONNECT I WOULDN'T WANT THE LAST PRESIDENT TO OPERATE IN
THAT OPEN ENDED AUTHORITY. I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THIS
PRESIDENT TO DO SO. I HOPE MANY OF MY REPUBLICAN
COLLEAGUES WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY AND WE CAN MAKE THIS A
STRONG BIPARTISAN
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