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Book Recommendations for Float Center Retail - DSP 145 - Duration: 10:29.>>Graham: Today's question is, "What books do you keep in your float center retail and
do they actually sell?"
>>Ashkahn: Okay, let's do the first part first.
>>Graham: Alright, so book of floating "A".
>>Ashkahn: Yep.
>>Graham: That's a big one.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah.
>>Graham: We also publish books.
We keep all of our own books in there.
>>Ashkahn: So we're a little bit biased, yeah.
Those are the best books!
And they sell ... We can't even keep 'em in stock, they sell so fast!
>>Graham: So let's go through the ones that we offer really quick.
>>Ashkahn: Okay.
So ...
>>Graham: So there's the John Lilly books.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah.
>>Graham: I guess separate from what we publish.
There's any books by John Lilly are good.
The float center specific ones.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, we don't carry like, his whole fleet of dolphin research books in our
shop or anything.
>>Graham: Yeah, I guess that's true.
I guess ... So the float books which are, "Deep Self," is probably the most floating.
>>Ashkahn: Yep.
>>Graham: One of his books.
We don't publish that one.
"Center of the Cyclone," has good stuff about floating in it.
"Programming and Metaprogramming," also has good floaty stuff ...
>>Ashkahn: Mm-hmm
>>Graham: Those two we do publish.
There's "Tanks for the Memories," ...
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, which is ...
>>Graham: Kind of a co-written sort of thing.
>>Ashkahn: With E.J.
Gold.
>>Graham: Yep.
>>Ashkahn: And there's, "The Scientist," which is ...
>>Graham: Yep.
>>Ashkahn: You know, more autobiographical.
>>Graham: Yes, so kind of like a sequel to, "Center of the Cyclone."
If you haven't read it, it has some good float stuff in there too.
"John Lilly so far", also has some good float stuff in it.
And I think that's the range of John Lilly books we actually carry in the shop.
Do you think we carry any others?
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, that sounds right.
No, I don't think so.
We might carry one of his dolphin books.
>>Graham: Just for the ... Yeah.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah.
>>Graham: I think we carry, "Mind of the Dolphin."
>>Ashkahn: "Mind of the Dolphin?"
Yeah.
I think so too.
>>Graham: We do carry that one too.
Okay, so that's the John Lilly ones.
Back to our publishing company.
>>Ashkahn: So, yeah.
We have a handful of books basically created from our, kind of, artist ... various artistic
programs we've done through our shops.
So having different types of people float and then create certain things afterwards.
So the first one I did was an artist program and so we have an art book of 150 different
pieces of float artwork.
>>Graham: Called, "The Artwork from the Void."
>>Ashkahn: We did a musicians program.
Had a bunch of bands float and create music afterwards that we ...
>>Graham: Never made a book of that.
>>Ashkahn: That's not a book, I guess.
Yeah, that's right.
That's just a thumb driver.
It's online.
We did a chef's program so we had a bunch of chefs float and create recipes.
>>Graham: Yep.
Called, "Flavors from the Void."
>>Ashkahn: And we recently did a writing program.
Kind of short stories or poetry kind of combined into a single book that we just published.
>>Graham: Called, "Letters from the Void."
>>Ashkahn: There's a theme there if you can tell.
But uh ... So those are our books that we have published that we also carry in our shop.
>>Graham: Yep.
We carry, "The Float Tank Cure."
Shane Stotts book.
>>Ashkahn: Yep.
>>Graham: Carry ...
>>Ashkahn: And then from there I think it gets into more ancillary stuff.
So we have two books by James Nestor.
One of them's called, "Get High Now Without Drugs," which is just a really fun book to
have around.
So it's just a variety of different, interesting, ways of messing with your brain and your senses
and one of them is, "Float Tanks."
There's a little page on float tanks.
>>Graham: Yeah, a little cameo in there.
>>Ashkahn: Uh-huh.
And he has another book called, "Deep," which is all about free diving.
And he doesn't talk specifically about float tanks in there but it is a lot about these
crazy free divers and their experience of being in water and John Lilly makes an appearance
in that book.
>>Graham: Yep.
And then we have, "Blue Mind," by Jay Nichols.
And James and Jay are both speakers over at the float conference, as well.
So, they've kind of talked about float tanks.
They actively like them and ... "Blue Mind," is another one, again, about the neuroscience
of how our body's, or I guess, just our brains ... Neuroscience of how our brains react to
being in a water and around water and, generally near water, and drinking water.
Everything about water.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah.
>>Graham: Which really ties into the float experience, too.
And both of those are just a great read, too.
"Deep," and "Blue Mind," are really excellent reads.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, "Blue Mind's," great.
It does actually talk about floating in it, as well.
And ... Is that it?
That's everything?
>>Graham: I think that might be it for what we sell.
Then we have a few others that we just keep on display.
But, yeah, that's it for retail, I think.
>>Ashkahn: Mm-hmm.
I think so too.
>>Graham: If we're missing anything, it's not in the big top sellers of books, anyway.
So, the second ...
>>Ashkahn: Do they sell well?
>>Graham: Well, "well" is such a relative term.
You know?
>>Ashkahn: And so, what is "to sell" really?
Huh?
>>Graham: You know, our entire capitalist economy is basically just a construct so ..
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, it's not something that should be admired or ... So not really.
I mean ...
>>Graham: It's not .. We're not living in the Bahamas off book sales from our float
center, you know?
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, like, there's certain ones of the books we've mentioned that we haven't
re-upped an order in, in over a year, at least.
Like, our stock of 15 or 20 of them will last quite a while.
>>Graham: Yep.
Yeah.
So not great, but that said, retail in general is not something that sells awesomely in our
float center either.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah.
>>Graham: And there are some float centers that really knock it out of the park with
the retail and the retail sales are doing good.
But I think, largely, those are set up as retail shops.
You know, it's almost like retail is really a big portion of what they're spending their
time setting up.
>>Ashkahn: Or they have something like yoga going on, too.
They're just doing something where there's a lot more people walking through their store
on a day to day basis then you'd get at a float center.
>>Graham: Cuz, a lot of people know where they want to go when they're doing retail
shopping and the float center is where they want to go when they're floating.
And we found that, despite trying to push a lot of things, there's not as much crossover
there.
So, relatively to overall retail, I think our books do good and well, okay-ish.
>>Ashkahn: I mean it's also, like, books, I think, are a harder thing to sell in real
life.
>>Graham: Than like, color therapy glasses, for example.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, ya know, the other stuff we do sells better, but it's like, books ... Like
even I ... if I wanted to look at a book, kinda in my head, I'm like, "I'm probably
just gonna buy this on Amazon," or I'm gonna buy, like an ebook or an audiobook or, you
know what I mean?
Like, there's so many kind of reasons to not just buy a book on the spot nowadays.
So I think that's ... In a way that doesn't exist for color therapy glasses or some of
the other retail we have.
>>Graham: Supplements.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, right.
You're like, "Okay, I'm just gonna buy ... I wanna take this right now or try this."
>>Graham: Yeah, so, goodish?
>>Ashkahn: So here's the positive.
Here's the good thing about this is that, like, of the things you could sell, it's a
really awesome thing when someone buys one of these books cuz it doesn't just mean that
you made a little bit of money or you sold a retail item or whatever.
It means they're about to go read a book that's all about float tanks and they're about to
learn a whole bunch about float tanks or about John Lilly or about free divers and therefore,
something about John Lilly.
And that's really great.
It's kind of the best thing you could sell.
Like, the book of floating is an awesome thing to sell because that person's about to know
a whole bunch about float tanks.
>>Graham: And even if they don't actually take it home and read it.
Even if they're one of those people who buys a book and then puts it on their bookshelf
and is like, "I'm gonna get to that someday."
And they never do.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, who ... Nobody does that.
>>Graham: Then, it's there.
It's sitting on their bookshelf and it's kind of an advertisement for floating.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah.
>>Graham: Or in the case of, "The Artwork from the Void," or "The Flavors from the Void."
The cookbooks.
I've gone over to people's' house and completely unsolicited.
I'm sure, not because I just happen to be visiting.
They have those set out on their coffee table and that's an even better advertisement to
floating, you know, which was kind of a lot of the impetus too in doing, "The Artwork
From the Void."
Is this idea of kind of, passive advertising.
If one of your customers walks home from the float and, not only bragging about it, but
having this book they take with them.
How cool, if someone then sees that and starts asking them questions and kind of prompts
this whole conversation about their time in a float tank?
>>Ashkahn: Yeah.
And even one step back from that.
I'd say, just even having these books in your lobby for sale, is great.
I've had a lot of conversations with customers about them.
And then they don't end up buying any of them, but I get to give them a tour of like, "Oh
this one's really cool.
It talks about 'this'.
This book has this sort of info in it."
And that right there is a good interaction and it lets them know that, "Wow, there's
all these different books with different types of information on floating."
That, by itself, I think, is a benefit.
And even like, one step back from that.
Just like having a copy of some of these books to have on your coffee table in your float
center ...
>>Graham: Oh yeah.
>>Ashkahn: Is great.
That gets used all the time.
People constantly like ... Before their floats, after their floats, they're sitting on the
couch ... They're always picking up the books on our coffee table and thumbing through them.
>>Graham: I mean, I honestly think that there's no reason not to have five copies of, pretty
much, any book that loosely relates to floating around.
>>Ashkahn: Mm-Hmm.
>>Graham: You know, like, one copy for your coffee table and even if it's just a couple
times a year someone really connects to that book while they're on your couch and wants
a copy for themselves, you know?
Having those to be able to sell to people too so you don't just have to give away your
coffee table version is really nice.
So, I mean, there's so few books that actually deal with floating, why not carry some copies
that you can have on display?
And just for customers to flip through and have set out on display.
>>Ashkahn: They make nice gifts too.
It's an awesome thing to give to a member on their 10th or 20th float or something.
Like, "Hey, you should take one of these home like The Book of Floating."
People are stoked when they get something like that.
And it's good for you too.
It's ... They're kind of like, amongst the better things, I could imagine giving a good
customer as a gift.
>>Graham: But are you going to retire based on your book sales?
Probably not.
>>Ashkahn: No, but you should still have them.
>>Graham: Alright.
So, anymore questions you have, go over to floattanksolutions.com/podcast.
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Who would come into my life now and again.
I was fine 'cause I knew
That they didn't really matter until them.
I was fine when you came
And we fought like it was all some silly game.
Over them, who they'd choose
After all those years I never thought I'd lose.
Its over, Isn't it?
Isn't it?
Isn't it over?
It's over, Isn't it?
Isn't it?
Isn't it over?
You won and they chose you,
And they loved you and they're gone.
It's over, isn't it?
Why can't I move on?
War and glory,
reinvention.
Fusion, freedom,
their attention.
Out in daylight my potential:
Bold, precise, experimental.
Who am I now in this world without them?
Petty and dull with the nerve to doubt them.
What does it matter? It's already done.
Now I've got to be there on my own.
It's over, Isn't it?
Isn't it
Isn't it over?
It's over, Isn't it?
isn't it?
isn't it over?
You won(me: breakdown) and they chose you.
And they loved you and they're gone!
It's over, Isn't it?
Why can't I move on?
It's over, isn't it?
Why can't I move on?(me: can't handle singing anymore)
You won and they chose you, And they loved you and they're gone.
Thank you for everything I'll move on
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Book recommendations for Float center owners - DSP 156 - Duration: 19:10.>>Graham: And today's question for you is, "What books have influenced you?"
>>Ashkahn: In terms of influence, I mean, "The Hungry, Hungry Caterpillar" would probably
be a big influence on me.
>>Graham: I was going to say "Give a Mouse a Cookie" ya know?
Being on this podcast with you has really reinforced some of the basic principles involved
in that one.
>>Ashkahn: So business books that we like.
Probably the biggest one-
>>Graham: Are you going to start with the biggest one?
I was going to start with the most skeptical one.
>>Ashkahn: Okay.
>>Graham: I always, my first recommendation for business books to read is "The Halo Effect",
because it's a business book about why to not trust other business books.
Or at least what to look for in general information consumption to cue you that something might
be worth your time or trust.
>>Ashkahn: There such a lot of bad business books out there.
I think that's the problem.
There's so many business books that are just fluff.
Like they have maybe like 15 pages of stuff to say and it's like a 250 page book.
>>Graham: Yeah they're just illogical, you know?
There's a lot of business books out there that really play on your emotions and not
necessarily the reality of running a business day in and day out.
>>Ashkahn: I think it's because you're a business owner and you're trying to think about marketing,
and you're like, "I should write a book.
That would be great for my business."
It's kind of this natural thing, whether anybody wants it or not, there's people out there
writing business books who think they have something to say.
And so there's a lot of stuff that people write about that seems like they're backing
up their advice, or they're using kind of evidence through examples from the real world
that could just as easily be examples that show the opposite depending on your perspective
and your context.
The Halo Effect is a book that kind of lays out a lot of those logical inconsistencies.
Like a classic one is taking the stocks of a company and seeing seven years that they
did really well, and looking at a range of time for just that seven years.
Where you're like "From 1991 to 98 they had this meteoric rise," whereas you could just
sample a different chunk of years and tell a different story depending on where you're
setting the beginning and end of the date range you're looking at.
There's just a lot of that.
Kind of after the fact analysis, or hindsight, where you look at a company that's done something
successful and you assume that these specific decisions they made on the way is what actually
led to them being successful, and that's like the business advice.
>>Graham: And the name, of course, comes from the bias called The Halo Effect, which is
that when something is already successful in some kind of realm or category, that we're
likely to consider it successful in others, whether or not that's justified at all.
So an attractive human being is a good example.
If someone's good looking, we assume that they're also great at keeping their taxes
and that they floss every night, and all these other great things about them.
Well it's the same with business, so when we see a successful business it's really easy
to look at things that it did to get there, but that might have completely failed in another
case.
Anyways, this is a story about books, no biases.
Sorry, we get really passionate when we start talking about logical biases.
>>Ashkahn: It is a really good first business book to read, because it helps give you the
tool set for dissecting other business books as you go forward.
>>Graham: Okay, what were you going to, what is our top recommendation?
>>Ashkahn: The one that probably has had the most influence on the way we run our business,
on the operations side of things, is a book called "The Seven Day Weekend" by a guy named
Ricardo Semler.
>>Graham: Awesome.
>>Ashkahn: Dude is just super cool.
He runs this Brazilian company that started in the 80s, I think.
The early 80s.
That started by making giant parts for big ships.
Huge industrial manufacturing, and has ended up becoming a huge force in revolutionizing
business structure, and basically a big proponent of democratic business structure, and being
cool to your employees.
Trusting them and treating them well.
Letting them have more autonomy than a lot of businesses were used to doing, and grew
the company very successfully from there.
Has gone on to teach business seminars, go in to other fields like education.
All kinds of cool stuff.
Just a super, super cool dude.
Great book.
Really awesome book to read.
>>Graham: A lot of people don't know Ricardo Semler, at least in the United States as much.
I feel like in the business world.
He's one of the dudes who influenced the people who now influence business thoughts.
All the people pretty much who've written alternative business books on how you don't
have to structure things, just the biggest corporations.
Like 37 Signals is a great example of people who have gotten a lot of attention, and Ricardo
Semler is the antecedent to that.
Also, he's just awesome.
The stuff he does blows your mind.
You read it and it's really delightful to read, and it feels like that one is the one
I recommend to just take off the shackles of what you feel you should do in business.
It really makes you realize there's a way broader possibility of how to run your company.
>>Ashkahn: If you like that books he's got a book he wrote previous of that, which is
called "Maverick", which is much more of his story of developing these procedures and the
way that his business runs, which is also a really great read.
It shows you a little bit more of the struggle and how it's not, you don't just snap your
fingers, and run a super cool company.
It's also hard and it also comes with challenges.
>>Graham: And if you go through that and you still want more Ricardo Semler, he also released
a series of podcasts.
I think it's about 12 long.
Maybe ten.
Interviews with people who have kind of followed in his footsteps and are using the lessons
that he learned in business and applied to Semco in fields like nursing, and education,
the police force and things like that, and in business.
>>Ashkahn: Along those same lines, pretty much every big company owner has a book written
by them or about them at this point.
Some of them are good, and some of them are bad, but the one by the guy who runs Zappos,
Tony Hsieh, is a pretty good one.
Same kind of idea.
Just running a company that is really nice to its employees, and a really cool place
to work, and really encouraging creating that great environment to work in.
So that's another good one, "Delivering Happiness" by Tony Hsieh.
>>Graham: Yeah, for sure.
>>Ashkahn: In terms of a more recent book along the same lines.
>>Graham: Yeah, and of course, they're really known, Zappos is, for their extraordinary
customer service, and also the freedom that employees are allowed to implement that customer
service, which is definitely tied right into that.
>>Ashkahn: I think one of the things I liked about the book was him talking about his own
goals for running a business, and how that influenced him, and actually just wanting
to run a place that was cool for his life and cool for other people's life, and stuff
like that.
Which was kind of refreshing to hear, rather than everything being directed about growing
profits or whatever.
>>Graham: Another one that I'd say is in my top three, is "The Lean Startup", which is
another really good template for running a scientific business, I guess.
It's all about experimentation and the need to constantly iterate and never feel like
where you're at is where you ultimately should be.
So running a lot of small tests, slowly getting better, and learning from those lessons as
you go along.
Making mistakes, making successes, and gradually building into what will be an amazing business.
So, very centered on this idea of experimentation, constant improvement.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, that's definitely one of the pillars of modern business advice, is
that book.
It spawned all kinds of other books off of it, and a lot of modern business mentalities
is based off of its principals.
This one's not as directly related to business, but I really like the book "Nudge".
It's just about being aware of how you set up your systems in terms of the influence,
your defaults, and kind of basic, little bits of ... I guess, basically how you set up things
to make easy paths for people to follow ends up being very important.
>>Graham: So they call it "paternalistic libertarianism".
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, that's their phrase for it.
>>Graham: Which is basically the idea that everyone should be allowed to choose.
You can't just force things down people's throats, and then say, "This is the only way
to do things."
So give people a choice, let them do what they want, but make it really easy for them
to choose what's good for them.
>>Ashkahn: Be aware that what you set up as the default, or the normal choice, or the
first option people have, ends up being a big part of what people end up doing.
>>Graham: So a great example is paying people every two weeks as opposed to every month,
for your own business.
Which is paying people every month and paying them every two weeks, you end up with the
same amount of money at the end of the year.
But if you pay people every two weeks then twice a year you'll end up with months where
you get paid three times during that month instead of just twice, and it turns out, just
that difference of two months getting an extra paycheck helps people save money better than
if they were getting paid every month, and then at the end of that month they just have
this predictable amount that's left in their bank account.
So by choosing to pay every two weeks, you're nudging them toward saving.
You're not saying, "You have to set aside money in order to be a good employee or a
good human being," or something like that.
But just that decision is enough that people will, on average, save much more money than
on a monthly basis.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, and just super cool.
Super cool dude who wrote that book too.
Richard Thaler, who is the father of behavioral economics.
>>Graham: Yeah, definitely.
I also recommend reading "Black Swan", and along with that "Fooled by Randomness" and
"Anti-Fragile".
It's kind of this trilogy by a guy named Nassim Taleb, who is one of our favorite modern philosophical,
economical, curmudgeons.
He really has a chip on his shoulder for a lot of the ways people who pretend to know
what's going on think about the world.
It's just a great reminder that a lot of things that happen both, in our lives and in business,
are due to randomness and chance than we might like to think.
So a reminder to be humble in your successes, and maybe not so hard on yourself during your
losses as well.
>>Ashkahn: Another good one on the operations side of things is a book called "Scrum".
>>Graham: Oh yeah.
>>Ashkahn: Which is by a guy who invented a system called Scrum, and this basically
has to do with project management and workflows.
It's kind of the idea that ... He really invented it for big, big projects,
and it's been adopted into the world of coding.
And basically with big construction projects, or any kind of big projects, a lot of companies
will typically make these huge project flow charts or they'd have these tasks starting
at this time.
These descending trees of what gets triggered by the next thing stopping, and all this stuff,
and they're just these beastly, beastly project layouts that people would make, and he really
wanted to create a more efficient system than that.
He found that frequently people were not even looking at them, and always way off schedule,
and all sorts of stuff like that.
So to create a more agile system, he developed a system called Scrum, which is based more
on these two week work periods where you set a small goal.
You have these quick meetings literally where you stand up, so that everyone is just encouraged
to have them be as short as possible.
You go through these little sprint cycles where you work on getting something actually
deliverable every two weeks, and it allows for things to be more efficient.
It allows for you to adjust easier.
The specifics are not, maybe, the most applicable thing to running a float center, but the mentality
almost is what I'd say is more valuable to a float center operator, coming out of it.
Just that idea of trying to keep an eye open for both efficiency and adjustability in your
plans.
To be a little bit more responsive to the world, and not to get too bogged down into
big, crazy, burdensome systems for getting stuff done.
>>Graham: Right.
At some point, if you're trying to make a map of the world, you can't make that map
one to one.
Otherwise, it's going to take up the space of the world.
So it's the same with project management or organizing what you're doing.
The more you try to document it, eventually you end up getting closer and closer to this
one-on-one.
You're spending more time on documenting and keeping track of the project than you're making
useful steps forward, and Scrum is kind of meant to fight that.
And another one I really like is "Ultimate Sales Machine" by Chet Holmes.
Just because it covers a lot of, more than basic sales tactics and things that go into
selling an individual customer.
I guess more life philosophies that contribute to being good in sales, and in my mind, just
being an efficient business person or even an efficient human being.
So some of my favorite things he covers are bull-headed determination, just pushing forward
no matter what's in your way.
And getting through those 45 nos in order to get the yes on the 46th time.
Things like that.
Getting the most out of your actions.
Doing one thing that has multiple results.
So, although it has almost a cheesy name, and might turn you off from its salesiness,
it's just an excellent read as a business owner.
>>Ashkahn: I feel like I gotta give a special shout out to this book called "Sprint" by,
let's see.
I just looked up the names of the authors here.
It's Jake Knapp, John Zeratsky and Braden Kowitz.
It's about these, like, they have this very specific regimen for a five day work cycle
of getting from having an idea to actually testing it out in the real world and trying
to do big development on big crucial ideas for your business.
And ya know, the specifics of whether you're gonna implement this and all that stuff is
one thing, but the reason I like to mention this is because it is unbelievably specific.
When you read business books, so often they tell you these abstract thoughts or their
general theories, and they don't tell you at all the context or the workings of how
to actually do something like this.
And this book is like to the point of telling you how many, what color, and what size of
Post-Its to purchase for certain steps, and how many minutes this other chunk should take.
It's shockingly detailed.
I just think that's kind of commendable in a business book for someone to actually go
to the point of literally giving you every single step by step in how to do what they're
doing.
So, I don't know.
Interesting, interesting book.
Definitely worth taking a look at.
>>Graham: So yeah, if you haven't noticed, we really like books on how you don't have
to run business like everyone else.
That you should give people personal freedom, and on specifics of what you should do rather
than fluffy generalities.
So maybe I don't know, we could keep going forever.
Our list of books that we've enjoyed and gone through is incredibly long.
>>Ashkahn: And they get weirder.
>>Graham: Stranger and stranger.
The nice thing, too, is if you go to look up any of these books and enjoy them, and
start reading them or listening to them, you know?
If you're on Amazon or Audible, you'll get a lot of recommendations for very similar
books.
Ones that are in the same vein and kind of in this whole field of logical biases and
empowerment and things like that.
So yeah, go educate yourself.
I guess we could speak just to the importance of going through these books that we found,
and continuing self-education too, which has been a really valuable process.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, it's nice.
Sometimes it feels almost like there's almost a disconnect between running a small business,
like a float center, and reading some of these books where they're talking about having a
thousand employees or running factories.
>>Graham: What to do with my five million dollar a year budget.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, exactly.
So, you gotta kinda put it into the right perspective, but the important thing is taking
the ideas and even if they don't seem immediately applicable, you're in your head building up
a better tool set to respond to questions and issues in the future.
When something comes up, when an employee says something and asks you how you want to
deal with the situation, or when you're dealing with some kind of marketing thing.
You kind of just rattling back there in your head are these various pieces of advice you've
had from reading these books.
You know, over time, as you build those up, it gives you a better ability to naturally
respond in ways that I think are to the benefit of your business.
>>Graham: And with us having so many managers and different business owners, I felt like
it almost gives us our own language to talk in, you know?
When we've gone through a lot of the similar texts and similar podcasts, and just these
lessons we've learned from content we've taken in.
We're able to reference those with each other and say, "Oh, maybe we should do like Chet
says in Ultimate Sales Machine for this problem in front of us."
Or "Oh maybe we should think about Nudge and actually choose some really intelligent defaults
instead of powering forward."
And having those mutual points of reference, I find, are really helpful.
>>Ashkahn: Yeah, definitely.
Having a language you can communicate in on topics that are difficult to discuss.
Like the abstractness of how to run a business.
>>Graham: Sometimes it takes an entire book to really get to the core of them, right?
And now you can just reference them with a single word and say "It's kind of like in
Nudge."
>>Ashkahn: All the books also have their own acronym, like every book does this nowadays,
seems to come out with some acronym that stands for the key lessons they're trying to get
across in the book.
>>Graham: I wish they wouldn't do that, really.
>>Ashkahn: Which seemed like whoever did it first had a good idea, and because it's been
used so much I don't remember any of them.
I don't anybody's acronyms, or which ones are to do with which books, or-
>>Graham: There's other ways to remember.
They should come out with their own jingle or something, included music file.
>>Ashkahn: That was my question.
I don't know, that's just the funny thing I'd say wholeheartedly ignore as you read
it in business books.
>>Graham: You don't actually need to memorize those acronyms.
No one uses them except that one author.
Alright, so again, there's a little glimpse into our bookshelf and especially some of
the influential ones, or ones that are both useful and at least entertaining and fun to
go through too.
>>Ashkahn: If you guys have other questions you can go to FloatTankSolutions.com/podcast
and send them over to us.
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