SOLEDAD: LOTS OF ATTENTION
FOCUSED ON THE REPUBLICANS, WITH
SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN DESCRIBING
THE FIRST WEEKS OF THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION AS
"DYSFUNCTIONAL."
BUT THAT COULD BE AN A
DESCRIPTION FOR DEMOCRATS.
THEY'RE STRUGGLING TO FIND
CONSENSUS ON LEADERSHIP FOR THE
D.N.C. AND CAN'T AGREE ON
STRATEGY.
A MEETING THIS PAST WEEK IN
BALTIMORE BROUGHT TOGETHER
HUNDREDS OF OFFICIALS, PARTY
ACTIVISTS, STRATEGISTS FOR BOTH
AN AUTOPSY AND LOOK FOR A PATH
FORWARD.
DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST JAMAL
SIMMONS WAS THERE.
NICE TO SEE YOU.
THIS WAS A MEETING ABOUT THE
FUTURE OF THE D.N.C.
I GUESS BROAD STROKES,
OPTIMISTIC IN YOUR MIND OR
PESSIMISTIC FUTURE?
JAMAL:
THERE IS NO EXPECTATION
ON MY PART WE WILL HAVE
EVERYTHING TO GET TODAY FOR FOUR
YEARS FROM NOW.
THE QUESTION FOR MANY PEOPLE AT
THE TABLE IS NOT JUST AT THE
PRESIDENTIAL LEVEL, BUT WHAT IS
GOING ON DOWN BALLOT, GOVERNORS,
STATE LEGISLATURES, ALL THOSE
COUNTY OFFICES THAT MATTER THAT
DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT BEEN TALKING
ABOUT AND PLAYING HARD TO WIN,
AND REPUBLICANS ARE CLEANING OUR
CLOCKS.
THAT'S WHERE MANY PEOPLE AT THE
FORUM WERE VERY FOCUSED.
SOLEDAD: IT FEELS LIKE IT'S A
BIT OF A MESS.
SEATS THAT SHOULD HAVE A
DEMOCRAT AT LEAST IN THE
RUNNING.
TOM PRICE IN GEORGIA, HIS SEAT
FOR EXAMPLE, NOBODY TO COME
FORWARD.
THAT IS A STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL
DISASTER, RIGHT?
JAMAL: LOOK, THE PARTY IS NOT
READY YET.
WE ARE STILL RECOVERING FROM
NOVEMBER.
BUT BY THE END OF FEBRUARY,
THERE WILL BE A NEW PARTY CHAIR
AND THEY ALL HAVE SAID THEY WANT
TO FOCUS ON THE DOWN BALLOT.
SOLEDAD: DO YOU THINK THAT PARTY
CHAIR CAN BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER?
EVEN THE BATTLE FOR PARTY CHAIR
IS MESSY.
WE ARE SEEING THESE FACTIONS IN
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF PEOPLE
WHO ARE MORE CENTER LEFT AND
THEN OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE
FARTHER TO THE LEFT.
WHAT IS THE VIBE FROM THAT
MEETING OF WHERE THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY SHOULD GO?
JAMAL: THE ENERGY OF THE PARTY
IS ON THE LEFT.
PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE
--
SOLEDAD: WHERE ON THE LEFT?
FAR LEFT?
MIDDLE LEFT?
JAMAL: MANY OF US WOULD SAY THE
ENERGY FOR THE PARTY IS ON THE
LEFT, IN THE PEOPLE WHO WERE
SUPPORTING BERNIE SANDERS.
THAT BERNIE SANDERS' WING IS THE
ASCENDANT WING.
THEY HAVE GOT THE ENERGY.
THEY ARE ON THE STREETS.
SOLEDAD: THAT'S FAR LEFT, RIGHT?
JAMAL: I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY
CALL IT THE FAR LEFT.
SOME OF IT ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT
TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PAIN THAT
WORKERS ARE FACING AND THEY WANT
SOMEBODY TO HAVE A PLAN TO DEAL
WITH THOSE POINTS.
IF ANY DEMOCRAT DOES NOT GET THE
SUPPORT OF THE LEFT-MOST PART OF
THE PARTY, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO
BE ABLE TO REACH TO THE CENTER.
THEY WON'T HAVE THE CREDIBILITY
TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.
SOLEDAD: HOW ARE DEMOCRATS
FEELING ABOUT GETTING THAT
WHITE, WORKING-CLASS VOTE IN THE
RUST BELT STATES?
JAMAL: DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT HAD A
MESSAGE THAT APPEALED TO WORKERS
OF ANY BACKGROUND.
WHAT MOST PEOPLE WERE SAYING AT
THIS MEETING WAS "WE NEED A
MESSAGE FOR WORKERS."
REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY LOOK
LIKE AND WHERE THEY LIVE AND IF
WE CAN COME UP WITH THAT
MESSAGE, THEN THE QUESTION IS,
HOW DO YOU TALK TO THEM AND WHAT
MESSENGERS DO YOU SEND INTO
THEIR COMMUNITIES TO TALK TO
THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY
UNDERSTAND WHAT DEMOCRATS ARE?
SOLEDAD: DO YOU THINK THAT
DEMOCRATS ARE MISSING AN
OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE OFF OF
CHAOS THAT IS EXISTING, NOT
REALLY THE G.O.P. SIDE, MORE THE
ADMINISTRATION SIDE OF THIS
PUZZLE?
OR IS IT A STRATEGY TO STAY OUT
OF IT IN AN ORGANIZED WAY AT
THIS POINT?
JAMAL: AT SOME POINT, THERE WILL
BE INVESTIGATIONS INTO SOME OF
THE PRESIDENT'S OTHER DEALINGS
AND THE RUSSIAN CONNECTIONS.
THERE IS THE LEGISLATIVE PART OF
THIS, AND THEN ON THE OTHER
SIDE, THERE IS AN ORGANIZING
PART OF THIS.
THAT IS HAPPENING OUT IN THE
COUNTRY.
THAT IS A DISAGGREGATED MOVEMENT
THAT IS COMING UP.
THE INDIVISIBLE FOLKS WHO ARE
SENDING PEOPLE INTO
CONGRESSIONAL OFFICES.
SO THEY CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS.
AND YOU ARE SEEING PEOPLE LIKE
THE WOMEN'S MARCH LEADERS WHO
ARE CALLING FOR NATIONAL STRIKES
AND TAKING PEOPLE OUT IN THE
STREETS.
SOLEDAD: GOING TO BE INTERESTING
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